Sleeping Better

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but that is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments!!

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans


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On the note of sleep, I've been undergoing a lot of stress and digestive issues lately, and have again looked for things to help me sleep more/better.  I've tried Melatonin in the past with mixed results, though if it's helping you, or anyone, great!

I've been taking about 1.5 servings (teaspoons) of Natural Calm magnesium citrate powder before bed (naturally fruity flavored, naturally sweetened with Stevia); it fizzes and dissolves in hot water - and the hot water I've added it to is a tea made with a dried herb called Wild Lettuce.

It actually is a kind of lettuce, though it contains mild sedative compounds; it used to be called "opium lettuce", though it contains no opioids or anything related to poppies (or illegal!), due to it's use as a "feeble" opium or morphine replacement for pain, insomnia, coughing, etc., for patientswho couldn't tolerate actual opium, or for young children.

I've found that I fall asleep quite quickly, and sleep heavily; I may wake up once or twice but that's been usual for me for years.  Mind you, I think that Wild Lettuce has a reputation for enhancing vividness of dreams - sure seems so in my case - and I do wake up feeling a bit dopey - but sometimes being able to sleep soundly is worth a couple of tradeoffs.

The magnesium helps relax the body in general, and I believe is antagonistic to adrenaline (it lessens its effect - if you're prone to racing heart, etc.).

Good luck!


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Subject: [eSens] Sleeping Better
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Greetings,



Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of my story.



I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.  



In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker is I have narcolepsy!



I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, butthat is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments! !



I hope this helps, good luck,



Jennie  



PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans



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I use magnesium to relax & helps with sleep. Also for you ladies Progesterone cream at night is very calming & needed. Loni

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On the note of sleep, I've been undergoing a lot of stress and digestive issues lately, and have again looked for things to help me sleep more/better.  I've tried Melatonin in the past with mixed results, though if it's helping you, or anyone, great!

I've been taking about 1.5 servings (teaspoons) of Natural Calm magnesium citrate powder before bed (naturally fruity flavored, naturally sweetened with Stevia); it fizzes and dissolves in hot water - and the hot water I've added it to is a tea made with a dried herb called Wild Lettuce.

It actually is a kind of lettuce, though it contains mild sedative compounds; it used to be called "opium lettuce", though it contains no opioids or anything related to poppies (or illegal!), due to it's use as a "feeble" opium or morphine replacement for pain, insomnia, coughing, etc., for patientswho couldn't tolerate actual opium, or for young children.

I've found that I fall asleep quite quickly, and sleep heavily; I may wake up once or twice but that's been usual for me for years.  Mind you, I think that Wild Lettuce has a reputation for enhancing vividness of dreams - sure seems so in my case - and I do wake up feeling a bit dopey - but sometimes being able to sleep soundly is worth a couple of tradeoffs.

The magnesium helps relax the body in general, and I believe is antagonistic to adrenaline (it lessens its effect - if you're prone to racing heart, etc.).

Good luck!

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From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

 

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here isa recap of my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours andwake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, andafter the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin andthrough a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me.Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day- the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, butthat is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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I had a lot of digestive issues previously. They have improved significantly since I started eating gluten free. Have you ever tried a gluten free diet?  

Good luck,

Jennie

 





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From: R. Ticle <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

 
On the note of sleep, I've been undergoing a lot of stress and digestive issues lately, and have again looked for things to help me sleep more/better.I've tried Melatonin in the past with mixed results, though if it's helping you, or anyone, great!

I've been taking about 1.5 servings (teaspoons) of Natural Calm magnesium citrate powder before bed (naturally fruity flavored, naturally sweetened with Stevia); it fizzes and dissolves in hot water - and the hot water I've added it to is a tea made with a dried herb called Wild Lettuce.

It actually is a kind of lettuce, though it contains mild sedative compounds; it used to be called "opium lettuce", though it contains no opioids or anything related to poppies (or illegal!), due to it's use as a "feeble" opium or morphine replacement for pain, insomnia, coughing, etc., for patientswho couldn't tolerate actual opium, or for young children.

I've found that I fall asleep quite quickly, and sleep heavily; I may wake up once or twice but that's been usual for me for years. Mind you, I thinkthat Wild Lettuce has a reputation for enhancing vividness of dreams - sure seems so in my case - and I do wake up feeling a bit dopey - but sometimes being able to sleep soundly is worth a couple of tradeoffs.

The magnesium helps relax the body in general, and I believe is antagonistic to adrenaline (it lessens its effect - if you're prone to racing heart, etc.).

Good luck!

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

 

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, butthat is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Hi all,

I also did the melatonin pill thing as when I got my levels of melatonin
tested it was found to be zilch, zero, none! I take 2x 3mg per night and if
I miss a night, sometimes I sleep and sometimes I don't.

Cheers, Helen (Aust)

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Oh yes - I've been completely gluten free and dairy free (except butter) for at least a few years now.  I know it was a problem; the psoriasis I had on my elbows that appeared during lots of rye and cheese sandwiches with yeasty Belgian Ale disappeared after cutting out gluten and dairy.

No, whatever's going on right now may be related in part to some digestive damage from those days, but I'm looking at things differently now, including checking my adrenals, healing the gut, and eating a very un-candida diet;cutting out more hard to digest foods, like beans, other grains, etc.  This is a big overhaul/shift for me, and I'm aiming to go about it the right way.

Cheers,

R.

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I had a lot of digestive issues previously. They have improved significantly since I started eating gluten free. Have you ever tried a gluten free diet?  



Good luck,



Jennie



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From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:12:31 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better



On the note of sleep, I've been undergoing a lot of stress and digestive issues lately, and have again looked for things to help me sleep more/better.I've tried Melatonin in the past with mixed results, though if it's helping you, or anyone, great!



I've been taking about 1.5 servings (teaspoons) of Natural Calm magnesium citrate powder before bed (naturally fruity flavored, naturally sweetened with Stevia); it fizzes and dissolves in hot water - and the hot water I've added it to is a tea made with a dried herb called Wild Lettuce.



It actually is a kind of lettuce, though it contains mild sedative compounds; it used to be called "opium lettuce", though it contains no opioids or anything related to poppies (or illegal!), due to it's use as a "feeble" opium or morphine replacement for pain, insomnia, coughing, etc., for patientswho couldn't tolerate actual opium, or for young children.



I've found that I fall asleep quite quickly, and sleep heavily; I may wake up once or twice but that's been usual for me for years. Mind you, I thinkthat Wild Lettuce has a reputation for enhancing vividness of dreams - sure seems so in my case - and I do wake up feeling a bit dopey - but sometimes being able to sleep soundly is worth a couple of tradeoffs.



The magnesium helps relax the body in general, and I believe is antagonistic to adrenaline (it lessens its effect - if you're prone to racing heart, etc.).



Good luck!



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From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM



Greetings,



Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of my story.



I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.



In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker is I have narcolepsy!



I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, butthat is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments! !



I hope this helps, good luck,



Jennie



PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans



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I am trying do omitt dairy & gluten in the diet but gluten free is really really hard for me. I know it is key to feeling better for me. Any tips on how to stick with this?  Loni

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From: R. Ticle <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 8:28 PM


 



Oh yes - I've been completely gluten free and dairy free (except butter) for at least a few years now.  I know it was a problem; the psoriasis I had on my elbows that appeared during lots of rye and cheese sandwiches with yeasty Belgian Ale disappeared after cutting out gluten and dairy.

No, whatever's going on right now may be related in part to some digestive damage from those days, but I'm looking at things differently now, including checking my adrenals, healing the gut, and eating a very un-candida diet;cutting out more hard to digest foods, like beans, other grains, etc.  This is a big overhaul/shift for me, and I'm aiming to go about it the right way.

Cheers,

R.

--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 12:30 AM

 

I had a lot of digestive issues previously. They have improved significantly since I started eating gluten free. Have you ever tried a gluten free diet?

Good luck,

Jennie

____________ _________ _________ __

From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:12:31 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

On the note of sleep, I've been undergoing a lot of stress and digestive issues lately, and have again looked for things to help me sleep more/better.I've tried Melatonin in the past with mixed results, though if it's helping you, or anyone, great!

I've been taking about 1.5 servings (teaspoons) of Natural Calm magnesium citrate powder before bed (naturally fruity flavored, naturally sweetened with Stevia); it fizzes and dissolves in hot water - and the hot water I've added it to is a tea made with a dried herb called Wild Lettuce.

It actually is a kind of lettuce, though it contains mild sedative compounds; it used to be called "opium lettuce", though it contains no opioids or anything related to poppies (or illegal!), due to it's use as a "feeble" opium or morphine replacement for pain, insomnia, coughing, etc., for patientswho couldn't tolerate actual opium, or for young children.

I've found that I fall asleep quite quickly, and sleep heavily; I may wake up once or twice but that's been usual for me for years. Mind you, I think that Wild Lettuce has a reputation for enhancing vividness of dreams - sureseems so in my case - and I do wake up feeling a bit dopey - but sometimesbeing able to sleep soundly is worth a couple of tradeoffs.

The magnesium helps relax the body in general, and I believe is antagonistic to adrenaline (it lessens its effect - if you're prone to racing heart, etc.).

Good luck!

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here isa recap of my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours andwake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, andafter the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin andthrough a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me.Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day- the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, butthat is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Loni, I have not cut out dairy but I have decreased my consumption of it. I should maybe try and cut out dairy and see if it gives me some positive results. My chiropractor is Dutch and he says that the dairy products in Europe are better for you than in America and for some of his patience that can not have dairy but are traveling to Europe he tells them they can consume some dairy while in Europe.

As far as gluten goes, I have eliminated it from my diet. One of the reasons that keeps me on track is remembering how badly I felt when I ate gluten. There are more gluten free products to choose from than before but depending on your tastes some items may taste OK to you and some terrible. Because I was not familiar with the products by sight I would get mixed up on which items I liked and which I did not. So, I started saving the empty boxes and bags of what I liked and stored them in a cereal box to keep for reference when I made out my grocery list. I have come to terms with the factthat I will never eat a soft sandwich again, but I grill my sandwiches. And when I look at new recipes from a regular cookbook I look for recipes that are inherently gluten free or with very little gluten so adding a GF substitute will not be difficult.

I have mentioned before that I have a small catering company and most of myrecipes are my own. I need to make more of an effort to develop some GF recipes. Below I have written out a recipe I have made. It is not a healthy recipe but it is GF and the softest GF dessert I have had. If you try itlet me know what you think.

Good luck,

Jennie

Baked Oatmeal Cake

Combine in Medium Bowl:
1/2 Cup Vegetable Oil
3/4 Cup Sugar
2 Eggs

Add:
3 Cups GF Oatmeal
1 tsp Baking Soda
1/2 tsp Cinnamon
1 Cup Milk or Milk substitute
1 tsp Vanilla

Spread batter into a 9x9 pan

Mix Strusel in Small Bowl:
In small food processor, process GF Oatmeal until fine like flour. Measureout 1/3 Cup of "Oatmeal Flour"
1/4 Cup Brown Sugar
2 Tablespoons Butter, melted
1/2 tsp Cinnamon

Crumble above strusel on top of batter and bake at 350 degrees for 30 minutes.

Variations:
Substitute Brown Sugar for White
Add Raisins and/or Chopped Nuts

Try substituting "Oatmeal Flour" for regular flour in baking recipes that use only small amount of flour

 



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From: Loni <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:37:33 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Gluten Free Diet

 
I am trying do omitt dairy & gluten in the diet but gluten free is really really hard for me. I know it is key to feeling better for me. Any tips on how to stick with this? Loni

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:

From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 8:28 PM

 

Oh yes - I've been completely gluten free and dairy free (except butter) for at least a few years now. I know it was a problem; the psoriasis I had on my elbows that appeared during lots of rye and cheese sandwiches with yeasty Belgian Ale disappeared after cutting out gluten and dairy.

No, whatever's going on right now may be related in part to some digestive damage from those days, but I'm looking at things differently now, including checking my adrenals, healing the gut, and eating a very un-candida diet;cutting out more hard to digest foods, like beans, other grains, etc. This is a big overhaul/shift for me, and I'm aiming to go about it the right way.

Cheers,

R.

--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 12:30 AM

 

I had a lot of digestive issues previously. They have improved significantly since I started eating gluten free. Have you ever tried a gluten free diet?

Good luck,

Jennie

____________ _________ _________ __

From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:12:31 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

On the note of sleep, I've been undergoing a lot of stress and digestive issues lately, and have again looked for things to help me sleep more/better.I've tried Melatonin in the past with mixed results, though if it's helping you, or anyone, great!

I've been taking about 1.5 servings (teaspoons) of Natural Calm magnesium citrate powder before bed (naturally fruity flavored, naturally sweetened with Stevia); it fizzes and dissolves in hot water - and the hot water I've added it to is a tea made with a dried herb called Wild Lettuce.

It actually is a kind of lettuce, though it contains mild sedative compounds; it used to be called "opium lettuce", though it contains no opioids or anything related to poppies (or illegal!), due to it's use as a "feeble" opium or morphine replacement for pain, insomnia, coughing, etc., for patientswho couldn't tolerate actual opium, or for young children.

I've found that I fall asleep quite quickly, and sleep heavily; I may wake up once or twice but that's been usual for me for years. Mind you, I think that Wild Lettuce has a reputation for enhancing vividness of dreams - sureseems so in my case - and I do wake up feeling a bit dopey - but sometimesbeing able to sleep soundly is worth a couple of tradeoffs.

The magnesium helps relax the body in general, and I believe is antagonistic to adrenaline (it lessens its effect - if you're prone to racing heart, etc.).

Good luck!

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here isa recap of my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours andwake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, andafter the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin andthrough a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me.Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day- the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, butthat is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Hey Loni,

I know it can be hard; you should've seen me when I first realized I had todo it.  "What? No more bread? No more BEER?!"

But it can be done.  I kind of look at it like, if something makes youfeel sick enough, enough times, you realize that it's a matter of choosingto feel awful, or choosing to feel better by avoiding it.  I did the same thing when I stopped...um...abusing certain substances in my late teenand early twenties; enough was enough.

And I've since eliminated, at least for the time being (and maybe long termif I find it does me great good), even more foods: dried fruits, honey, concentrated sugar, pretty much all grains (even gluten free ones), most nuts/seeds...all foods I enjoy, but there's clearly an imbalance that needs correcting, and right now it seems that my body is doing better without these things.

But if you're good with gluten free grains, go for them! I have tried some commercially available rice breads that are actually quite nice; some, especially those made with brown rice (more nutritious than white) can be a bitcrumbly, but not bad.  Other ones like millet or buckwheat or amaranth breads can be quite crumbly indeed, and have a robust flavor that takes some getting used to, though are high in nutrients and protein (for a bread,at least).

And of course you can get into cooking the whole grains (millet, quinoa, amaranth, buckwheat, sorghum, rice, etc.) and eating them that way - and if you're okay with fresh fruit, use more of that, and vegetables, for carbs.  Or eat more fat if you're fine with it, for caloric energy.

I know that giving up the chewy, sweet, fragrant satisfying sensation of wheat, or rye, or spelt, especially as bread, can be hard - but if you know it's bad for you, and bad for your guts, it's worth it.  Trust me, dealing with guts that are irritated or impaired can mean dealing with other symptoms that many wouldn't even consider to be a part of digestive health - they're a big part of our system and connected to other parts of us.  Better to give them a rest if you know you can. 

Consider it good that you know gluten causes you problems! Just think of how many people eat gluten, feel sick from it, and don't know why! You don't need full blown Celiac disease to have trouble with that particular grain protein.

Sorry about the length of this message; I'm surprised I can type this much about food on an empty stomach, fasting before a physical at the Doctor's...

I had a bread recipe (gluten free of course) bookmarked, entitled "Gluten Free Bread That Just Might Make You Cry [For Joy]"; sounds very tasty. Though, it does have yeast, eggs, honey and apple cider vinegar in it - ifyou're fine with these things, it might help you keep off gluten, 'cause it sounds really satisfying.

Here's the link:

http://glutenfreebay.blogspot.com/2007/02/gluten-free-bread-that-just-might-make.html

Good luck!

R.


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From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Gluten Free Diet
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I am trying do omitt dairy & gluten in the diet but gluten free is really really hard for me. I know it is key to feeling better for me. Any tips on how to stick with this?  Loni



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From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 8:28 PM



 



Oh yes - I've been completely gluten free and dairy free (except butter) for at least a few years now.  I know it was a problem; the psoriasis I had on my elbows that appeared during lots of rye and cheese sandwiches with yeasty Belgian Ale disappeared after cutting out gluten and dairy.



No, whatever's going on right now may be related in part to some digestive damage from those days, but I'm looking at things differently now, including checking my adrenals, healing the gut, and eating a very un-candida diet;cutting out more hard to digest foods, like beans, other grains, etc.  This is a big overhaul/shift for me, and I'm aiming to go about it the right way.



Cheers,



R.



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From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Received: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 12:30 AM



 



I had a lot of digestive issues previously. They have improved significantly since I started eating gluten free. Have you ever tried a gluten free diet?



Good luck,



Jennie



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To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:12:31 AM



Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better



On the note of sleep, I've been undergoing a lot of stress and digestive issues lately, and have again looked for things to help me sleep more/better.I've tried Melatonin in the past with mixed results, though if it's helping you, or anyone, great!



I've been taking about 1.5 servings (teaspoons) of Natural Calm magnesium citrate powder before bed (naturally fruity flavored, naturally sweetened with Stevia); it fizzes and dissolves in hot water - and the hot water I've added it to is a tea made with a dried herb called Wild Lettuce.



It actually is a kind of lettuce, though it contains mild sedative compounds; it used to be called "opium lettuce", though it contains no opioids or anything related to poppies (or illegal!), due to it's use as a "feeble" opium or morphine replacement for pain, insomnia, coughing, etc., for patientswho couldn't tolerate actual opium, or for young children.



I've found that I fall asleep quite quickly, and sleep heavily; I may wake up once or twice but that's been usual for me for years. Mind you, I think that Wild Lettuce has a reputation for enhancing vividness of dreams - sureseems so in my case - and I do wake up feeling a bit dopey - but sometimesbeing able to sleep soundly is worth a couple of tradeoffs.



The magnesium helps relax the body in general, and I believe is antagonistic to adrenaline (it lessens its effect - if you're prone to racing heart, etc.).



Good luck!



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From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>



Subject: [eSens] Sleeping Better



To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>



Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM



Greetings,



Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here isa recap of my story.



I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours andwake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, andafter the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.



In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin andthrough a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me.Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day- the kicker is I have narcolepsy!



I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, butthat is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments! !



I hope this helps, good luck,



Jennie



PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans



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Loni,

As you know I've also just started gluten-free (starting with 70% less gluten and 90% less dairy).

Like Jennie I also think:
-Swithing gradually to gluten-free may be easier/better.
-You have to cook more yourself for gluten-free. I don't think there are many gluten-free meals (when I'm lazy I kinda miss eating standard pizza's!)

On gluten-free and dairy-free I have found 2 diets that seem close to one-another:

-SPECIFIC CARBOHYDRATE DIET (SCD): seems as if the book is full of interesting info for beginners (you learn to make SCD-yoghurt that IS okey!...):
http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/book/the_book.htm

-PALEOLITHIC DIET (Cavemand Diet):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet


I kinda like to eat meat and fish so it is doable, I also like to eat vegetables, but not sure if I'm not allergic to some of them (will be tested soon!)...

You can also combine it with blood-type-diet. I'm O-, I haven't read anything on that, but from my dear mother ;) I know the O-bloodtype diet is basedon meat/fish...

I definitely believe in the importance of combining food. You shouldn't eatbacon and egg together. With meat or fish or eggs you should only eat vegetables or fat (butter/nuts/oil)... I have a good book on it in Dutch, it isbased on Dr. Hay's diet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Hay_diet

Stephen.




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Gluten-free is not a solution.

You should stay away from bread altogether.
Use rice crackers as an example.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:15 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Gluten Free Diet


Loni,

As you know I've also just started gluten-free (starting with 70% less
gluten and 90% less dairy).

Like Jennie I also think:
-Swithing gradually to gluten-free may be easier/better.
-You have to cook more yourself for gluten-free. I don't think there are
many gluten-free meals (when I'm lazy I kinda miss eating standard pizza's!)

On gluten-free and dairy-free I have found 2 diets that seem close to
one-another:

-SPECIFIC CARBOHYDRATE DIET (SCD): seems as if the book is full of
interesting info for beginners (you learn to make SCD-yoghurt that IS
okey!...):
http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/book/the_book.htm

-PALEOLITHIC DIET (Cavemand Diet):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet


I kinda like to eat meat and fish so it is doable, I also like to eat
vegetables, but not sure if I'm not allergic to some of them (will be tested
soon!)...

You can also combine it with blood-type-diet. I'm O-, I haven't read
anything on that, but from my dear mother ;) I know the O-bloodtype diet is
based on meat/fish...

I definitely believe in the importance of combining food. You shouldn't eat
bacon and egg together. With meat or fish or eggs you should only eat
vegetables or fat (butter/nuts/oil)... I have a good book on it in Dutch, it
is based on Dr. Hay's diet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Hay_diet

Stephen.




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Greetings,
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Hi, R,
 
The psoriasis on your elbows that disappeared after going gf, is/was likelydermatitis herpetiformis (DH), not psoriasis.  I had the rash variousplaces, too, and it was impossible to control prior to going gf.  Mentioning this to you also because of rye grass being so prevalent.  I had to reseed my entire lawn with Kentucky blue grass becauseI got asthma and weakness often when we cut our grass.  I later realized I was reacting to the gluten when the rye was kicked up in the air.  I also got a rash sometimes when I sat on the ground.  Be alsovery careful washing your beans--they often have barley or rye in them.  I had to quit eating beans because I reacted too often to them.  (Often they had pieces of glutens I would try to wash out, but perhaps too Ihave problems just digesting beans.)   Be especially careful (gf-wise) with broths--I can tolerate no canned broths I have tried long term.  It is like playing Russian roulette--one can
is fine, the next can is contaminated and I get sick, another brand Ican go 4 or 5 cans, but the next batch of broth, I get sick.....  I finally quit buying broth and make my own.  Also, if you are having digestive problems, R,check out hygiene and cleaning products.  Odd but Ihave had problems sometimes with those.  Also, if you live with others for any amount of time (or even visit), you can then have problems with contamination there......  Lots of odd things can cause digestive problems when you are reactive to glutens.
 
Good call, tho, going gf and df; hope you find the source of your current digestive problem,
Diane

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From: R. Ticle <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 10:28 PM


 



Oh yes - I've been completely gluten free and dairy free (except butter) for at least a few years now.  I know it was a problem; the psoriasis I had on my elbows that appeared during lots of rye and cheese sandwiches with yeasty Belgian Ale disappeared after cutting out gluten and dairy.

No, whatever's going on right now may be related in part to some digestive damage from those days, but I'm looking at things differently now, including checking my adrenals, healing the gut, and eating a very un-candida diet;cutting out more hard to digest foods, like beans, other grains, etc.  This is a big overhaul/shift for me, and I'm aiming to go about it the right way.

Cheers,

R.

--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 12:30 AM

 

I had a lot of digestive issues previously. They have improved significantly since I started eating gluten free. Have you ever tried a gluten free diet?

Good luck,

Jennie

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From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:12:31 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

On the note of sleep, I've been undergoing a lot of stress and digestive issues lately, and have again looked for things to help me sleep more/better.I've tried Melatonin in the past with mixed results, though if it's helping you, or anyone, great!

I've been taking about 1.5 servings (teaspoons) of Natural Calm magnesium citrate powder before bed (naturally fruity flavored, naturally sweetened with Stevia); it fizzes and dissolves in hot water - and the hot water I've added it to is a tea made with a dried herb called Wild Lettuce.

It actually is a kind of lettuce, though it contains mild sedative compounds; it used to be called "opium lettuce", though it contains no opioids or anything related to poppies (or illegal!), due to it's use as a "feeble" opium or morphine replacement for pain, insomnia, coughing, etc., for patientswho couldn't tolerate actual opium, or for young children.

I've found that I fall asleep quite quickly, and sleep heavily; I may wake up once or twice but that's been usual for me for years. Mind you, I think that Wild Lettuce has a reputation for enhancing vividness of dreams - sureseems so in my case - and I do wake up feeling a bit dopey - but sometimesbeing able to sleep soundly is worth a couple of tradeoffs.

The magnesium helps relax the body in general, and I believe is antagonistic to adrenaline (it lessens its effect - if you're prone to racing heart, etc.).

Good luck!

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From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here isa recap of my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours andwake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, andafter the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin andthrough a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me.Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day- the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, butthat is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Hi, Helen (and Giles),
 
Me too, re melatonin--it didn't help me and actually made me worse.  However, magnesium and B12 sublinguals did help me.  It depends on whatyou are lacking, as to what helps, so it is important to look into variousnutrients if you have problems sleeping.  But also, Essers need to address the issue of bedsprings usually.  I didn't think it would help when my doctor suggested it, but he mentioned pulling my bed away from the wall a foot.  I did that and found that helpful, too.  Iwas apparently reacting some to unused electrical outlets behind the bed when my ES was particularly bad.  Maybe plugging them with child-proof outlet covers might help, too, but I never tried this.  Giles mentioned using rose quartz under his pillow to sleep and I tried this and found it helped also.  (I have since found a number of gemstones which give me deep restorative sleep--and found some interesting results with various other symptoms as well, with the
gemstones.  But you have to clean and "clear" them often; if you don't, they can make you worse.)  Gemstones are very interesting--they have various frequencies, many of which can resonate various healing energies.  Thanks, Giles, for bringing these to our attention. 
 
Hope you are sleeping better, Helen,
Diane

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From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 7:57 PM


 



Hi all,

I also did the melatonin pill thing as when I got my levels of melatonin
tested it was found to be zilch, zero, none! I take 2x 3mg per night and if
I miss a night, sometimes I sleep and sometimes I don't.

Cheers, Helen (Aust)

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For some of us our health will improve it we limit or eliminate certain foods from our diet. I forgot to mention it might be easier to eliminate one food category at a time. I had initially tried to do to much all at once and it was too hard. Mentally, for me, because of the limitations placed on me because of EMS & MCS and because food has always been a source of comfort I felt like it was just one more thing to give up when changing my diet. Also eliminating one food item at a time helped me to see the specific impact that food had on my health.

Good luck,

Jennie

 





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From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 2:15:55 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Gluten Free Diet

 
Loni,

As you know I've also just started gluten-free (starting with 70% less gluten and 90% less dairy).

Like Jennie I also think:
-Swithing gradually to gluten-free may be easier/better.
-You have to cook more yourself for gluten-free. I don't think there are many gluten-free meals (when I'm lazy I kinda miss eating standard pizza's!)

On gluten-free and dairy-free I have found 2 diets that seem close to one-another:

-SPECIFIC CARBOHYDRATE DIET (SCD): seems as if the book is full of interesting info for beginners (you learn to make SCD-yoghurt that IS okey!...):
http://www.breaking theviciouscycle. info/book/ the_book. htm

-PALEOLITHIC DIET (Cavemand Diet):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet

I kinda like to eat meat and fish so it is doable, I also like to eat vegetables, but not sure if I'm not allergic to some of them (will be tested soon!)...

You can also combine it with blood-type-diet. I'm O-, I haven't read anything on that, but from my dear mother ;) I know the O-bloodtype diet is basedon meat/fish...

I definitely believe in the importance of combining food. You shouldn't eatbacon and egg together. With meat or fish or eggs you should only eat vegetables or fat (butter/nuts/ oil)... I have a good book on it in Dutch, it is based on Dr. Hay's diet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Hay_diet

Stephen.

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Charles,

I agree gluten is not the solution (if only it were that simple) but for myself I have found that if I can eliminate factors that weaken my immune system and general health than I can tolerate my EMS & EMS better. So findingout what foods, allergens, etc. effect my health negatively and eliminating them as much as possible helps.

Jennie

 





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Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 2:30:23 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Gluten Free Diet

 
Gluten-free is not a solution.

You should stay away from bread altogether.
Use rice crackers as an example.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member VerbandBaubiologie
www.milieuziektes. nl
www.milieuziektes. be
www.hetbitje. nl
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From: "stephen_vandevijve re" <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]>
To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:15 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Gluten Free Diet

Loni,

As you know I've also just started gluten-free (starting with 70% less
gluten and 90% less dairy).

Like Jennie I also think:
-Swithing gradually to gluten-free may be easier/better.
-You have to cook more yourself for gluten-free. I don't think there are
many gluten-free meals (when I'm lazy I kinda miss eating standard pizza's!)

On gluten-free and dairy-free I have found 2 diets that seem close to
one-another:

-SPECIFIC CARBOHYDRATE DIET (SCD): seems as if the book is full of
interesting info for beginners (you learn to make SCD-yoghurt that IS
okey!...):
http://www.breaking theviciouscycle. info/book/ the_book. htm

-PALEOLITHIC DIET (Cavemand Diet):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet

I kinda like to eat meat and fish so it is doable, I also like to eat
vegetables, but not sure if I'm not allergic to some of them (will be tested
soon!)...

You can also combine it with blood-type-diet. I'm O-, I haven't read
anything on that, but from my dear mother ;) I know the O-bloodtype diet is
based on meat/fish...

I definitely believe in the importance of combining food. You shouldn't eat
bacon and egg together. With meat or fish or eggs you should only eat
vegetables or fat (butter/nuts/ oil)... I have a good book on it in Dutch, it
is based on Dr. Hay's diet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Hay_diet

Stephen.

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My pleasure Diane! 
If you feel it bad some days with head pressure from all the EMF, get someone to hold the back of your neck with one hand and with the other to hold aclear quartz.. Its great healing process. Make sure the other person washes there hands and quartz afterwards. Just do it for a few minutes. They will feel all the bad energy go into the quartz!!! Its weird.
Glad you are sleeping better.

Best
Giles

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Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
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Hi, Helen (and Giles),

 

Me too, re melatonin--it didn't help me and actually made me worse.  However, magnesium and B12 sublinguals did help me.  It depends on whatyou are lacking, as to what helps, so it is important to look into variousnutrients if you have problems sleeping.  But also, Essers need to address the issue of bedsprings usually.  I didn't think it would help when my doctor suggested it, but he mentioned pulling my bed away from the wall a foot.  I did that and found that helpful, too.  Iwas apparently reacting some to unused electrical outlets behind the bed when my ES was particularly bad.  Maybe plugging them with child-proof outlet covers might help, too, but I never tried this.  Giles mentioned using rose quartz under his pillow to sleep and I tried this and found it helped also.  (I have since found a number of gemstones which give me deep restorative sleep--and found some interesting results with various other symptoms as well, with the

gemstones.  But you have to clean and "clear" them often; if you don't, they can make you worse.)  Gemstones are very interesting- -they have various frequencies,  many of which can resonate various healing energies.  Thanks, Giles, for bringing these to our attention. 

 

Hope you are sleeping better, Helen,

Diane



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From: Helen Murphy <helenmurphybb@ gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 7:57 PM



 



Hi all,



I also did the melatonin pill thing as when I got my levels of melatonin

tested it was found to be zilch, zero, none! I take 2x 3mg per night and if

I miss a night, sometimes I sleep and sometimes I don't.



Cheers, Helen (Aust)



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> I had a lot of digestive issues previously. They have improved

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> gluten free diet?

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> Good luck,

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> Jennie

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Hi  Loni,
 
For your situation, this will be tough, because you have a family at home.  For me, tho, I have nothing in my home--food, hygiene, or cleaning-wise, which contains gluten.  I stick to eating all natural un-fooled-around-with foods from scratch.  I started out using alot of the gf mixes and such, but found it easier to just make everything myself from raw ingredients, over time.  Of course, alot of the problem for me involved also avoiding the use of sugars and preserving agents, which is why I came to do it this way.  My husband also wanted to support me in this--he eats out most days for breakie and lunch, due to his work schedule.  Onweekends and holidays he eats gluten-free with me; dinners are always gf with me, also.  A dedicated gf kitchen can be done with a family, but you definitely have to have family support to do it. 
 
Another thing I did for my hubby, was I set up a mini kitchen in a large (5x8') porch closet I had made off our back entry--sink, hot plate, a little workspace, his own pans and dishes, etc.... with a table and chairs, sofa, etc on the porch where he can entertain friends.  When he wants to, he can go there and have cookies, crackers, gluten treats, gluten clam chowder soup, etc.  The porch is open on 2 sides, but can be easily enclosed for winter with panels of plastic in wood frames, and I outfitted the porch with a little gas fireplace for heat and ambiance.  This has really worked great for us over the years.  We also have large family holiday gatherings/parties there, where we bring in buffet tables and chairs from the local fire dept.  When I host Christmas, we enclose the porch and I make the turkey and stuffing, (plus other foods for me), and the rest of the family brings their own various dishes and desserts with glutens in them. 
None of the foods they bring ever enters our house.  Since I can sometimes react to air-borne gluten (asthma attack) as well as digestively, this works well for us.
 
Your situation will change over time due to your family.  I was unableto heal digestively until my husband had zero glutens in our house--I reacted even to dust from his cereal.  Other celiacs are rarely this reactive, however, but I had been bedbound 13 years due to celiac disease and secondary diseases caused by it, and majorly ill from infancy.  The problem with glutens is the tight junction damage and blood-brain barrier damage they do.  Everyone talks about the digestive problems with glutens, but the damage to other organs can be as bad or worse.  Similar situation to the oxytocin and medical research Bill and I were discussing.  CD=gut damage, in most peoples' minds, but they fail to recognise the other problems due to it, especially brain damage.
 
Another thing you may be experiencing is gluten addiction.  This is rare, but it happened to me--I had withdrawal symptoms for at least 6 weeks when I went gf.  If you keep occasionally cheating, it will prolong themisery of withdrawal symptoms.
 
Good luck, Loni.  I hope you can soon come up with a plan that will work for you,
Diane

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From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Gluten Free Diet
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 10:37 PM


 



I am trying do omitt dairy & gluten in the diet but gluten free is really really hard for me. I know it is key to feeling better for me. Any tips on how to stick with this?  Loni

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:

From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 8:28 PM

 

Oh yes - I've been completely gluten free and dairy free (except butter) for at least a few years now.  I know it was a problem; the psoriasis I had on my elbows that appeared during lots of rye and cheese sandwiches with yeasty Belgian Ale disappeared after cutting out gluten and dairy.

No, whatever's going on right now may be related in part to some digestive damage from those days, but I'm looking at things differently now, including checking my adrenals, healing the gut, and eating a very un-candida diet;cutting out more hard to digest foods, like beans, other grains, etc.  This is a big overhaul/shift for me, and I'm aiming to go about it the right way.

Cheers,

R.

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From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 12:30 AM

 

I had a lot of digestive issues previously. They have improved significantly since I started eating gluten free. Have you ever tried a gluten free diet?

Good luck,

Jennie

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From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:12:31 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

On the note of sleep, I've been undergoing a lot of stress and digestive issues lately, and have again looked for things to help me sleep more/better.I've tried Melatonin in the past with mixed results, though if it's helping you, or anyone, great!

I've been taking about 1.5 servings (teaspoons) of Natural Calm magnesium citrate powder before bed (naturally fruity flavored, naturally sweetened with Stevia); it fizzes and dissolves in hot water - and the hot water I've added it to is a tea made with a dried herb called Wild Lettuce.

It actually is a kind of lettuce, though it contains mild sedative compounds; it used to be called "opium lettuce", though it contains no opioids or anything related to poppies (or illegal!), due to it's use as a "feeble" opium or morphine replacement for pain, insomnia, coughing, etc., for patientswho couldn't tolerate actual opium, or for young children.

I've found that I fall asleep quite quickly, and sleep heavily; I may wake up once or twice but that's been usual for me for years. Mind you, I think that Wild Lettuce has a reputation for enhancing vividness of dreams - sureseems so in my case - and I do wake up feeling a bit dopey - but sometimesbeing able to sleep soundly is worth a couple of tradeoffs.

The magnesium helps relax the body in general, and I believe is antagonistic to adrenaline (it lessens its effect - if you're prone to racing heart, etc.).

Good luck!

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here isa recap of my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours andwake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, andafter the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin andthrough a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me.Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day- the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, butthat is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Hi Jennie,
 
You can tolerate oats???  Do you buy a special kind of gf oats, Jennie?  Most oats are contaminated with gluten from other grain sources.  I have tried Irish oats, local oats..... no oats work for me.
 
Only have a couple more minutes before I have to get off-line, but I have recipes for soft gf sandwich breads.  I will share if you want.  (I will trade for gf/sf desserts.  lol  We could start a cooking trading card business, Jennie!)  I use a electric bread machine for some of my recipes and set it to bake while I am out.  (But have to say, I really don't seem to have a problem with the bread machine on ES-wise, when I am home all day.)  Depending on what you are able to use, ingredients-wise, these could work for you or not.  I use guar and xantham gums.  I also use buttermilk sometimes for helping with leavening and texture.  This is reeaaallllly getting off-topic.  (Sorry Marc.)  I can send more info privately.
 
Happy gf eating,
Diane

--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Gluten Free Diet
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 12:12 AM


 



Loni, I have not cut out dairy but I have decreased my consumption of it. Ishould maybe try and cut out dairy and see if it gives me some positive results. My chiropractor is Dutch and he says that the dairy products in Europe are better for you than in America and for some of his patience that cannot have dairy but are traveling to Europe he tells them they can consume some dairy while in Europe.

As far as gluten goes, I have eliminated it from my diet. One of the reasons that keeps me on track is remembering how badly I felt when I ate gluten.There are more gluten free products to choose from than before but depending on your tastes some items may taste OK to you and some terrible. BecauseI was not familiar with the products by sight I would get mixed up on which items I liked and which I did not. So, I started saving the empty boxes and bags of what I liked and stored them in a cereal box to keep for reference when I made out my grocery list. I have come to terms with the fact thatI will never eat a soft sandwich again, but I grill my sandwiches. And when I look at new recipes from a regular cookbook I look for recipes that areinherently gluten free or with very little gluten so adding a GF substitute will not be difficult.

I have mentioned before that I have a small catering company and most of myrecipes are my own. I need to make more of an effort to develop some GF recipes. Below I have written out a recipe I have made. It is not a healthy recipe but it is GF and the softest GF dessert I have had. If you try it letme know what you think.

Good luck,

Jennie

Baked Oatmeal Cake

Combine in Medium Bowl:
1/2 Cup Vegetable Oil
3/4 Cup Sugar
2 Eggs

Add:
3 Cups GF Oatmeal
1 tsp Baking Soda
1/2 tsp Cinnamon
1 Cup Milk or Milk substitute
1 tsp Vanilla

Spread batter into a 9x9 pan

Mix Strusel in Small Bowl:
In small food processor, process GF Oatmeal until fine like flour. Measure out 1/3 Cup of "Oatmeal Flour"
1/4 Cup Brown Sugar
2 Tablespoons Butter, melted
1/2 tsp Cinnamon

Crumble above strusel on top of batter and bake at 350 degrees for 30 minutes.

Variations:
Substitute Brown Sugar for White
Add Raisins and/or Chopped Nuts

Try substituting "Oatmeal Flour" for regular flour in baking recipes that use only small amount of flour

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From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:37:33 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Gluten Free Diet

I am trying do omitt dairy & gluten in the diet but gluten free is really really hard for me. I know it is key to feeling better for me. Any tips on how to stick with this? Loni

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:

From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 8:28 PM

Oh yes - I've been completely gluten free and dairy free (except butter) for at least a few years now. I know it was a problem; the psoriasis I had onmy elbows that appeared during lots of rye and cheese sandwiches with yeasty Belgian Ale disappeared after cutting out gluten and dairy.

No, whatever's going on right now may be related in part to some digestive damage from those days, but I'm looking at things differently now, including checking my adrenals, healing the gut, and eating a very un-candida diet;cutting out more hard to digest foods, like beans, other grains, etc. Thisis a big overhaul/shift for me, and I'm aiming to go about it the right way.

Cheers,

R.

--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 12:30 AM

I had a lot of digestive issues previously. They have improved significantly since I started eating gluten free. Have you ever tried a gluten free diet?

Good luck,

Jennie

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From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:12:31 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

On the note of sleep, I've been undergoing a lot of stress and digestive issues lately, and have again looked for things to help me sleep more/better.I've tried Melatonin in the past with mixed results, though if it's helping you, or anyone, great!

I've been taking about 1.5 servings (teaspoons) of Natural Calm magnesium citrate powder before bed (naturally fruity flavored, naturally sweetened with Stevia); it fizzes and dissolves in hot water - and the hot water I've added it to is a tea made with a dried herb called Wild Lettuce.

It actually is a kind of lettuce, though it contains mild sedative compounds; it used to be called "opium lettuce", though it contains no opioids or anything related to poppies (or illegal!), due to it's use as a "feeble" opium or morphine replacement for pain, insomnia, coughing, etc., for patientswho couldn't tolerate actual opium, or for young children.

I've found that I fall asleep quite quickly, and sleep heavily; I may wake up once or twice but that's been usual for me for years. Mind you, I think that Wild Lettuce has a reputation for enhancing vividness of dreams - sureseems so in my case - and I do wake up feeling a bit dopey - but sometimesbeing able to sleep soundly is worth a couple of tradeoffs.

The magnesium helps relax the body in general, and I believe is antagonistic to adrenaline (it lessens its effect - if you're prone to racing heart, etc.).

Good luck!

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here isa recap of my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours andwake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, andafter the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin andthrough a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me.Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day- the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, butthat is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Hi, R,
 
Another thing you may react to if you are eating it: millet.  Some gluten intolerants are intolerant of millet and oats.  People with cd aresupposed to only have problems with wheat, rye, and barley, (but also often react to gluten contaminations in oats).  People with full-spectrum gluten intolerance react to BMROW  (lol--can be an apt name): barley, millet, rye, oats, and wheat.  This is a nebulous territory tho. I have cd by biopsy but I still cannot tolerate oats or millet. 
 
I am totally sugar free/sweetener free otherwise, but I do eat yeast breads some with honey or molasses as the yeast feeder.  You can usually half the sweetener used in the recipe and the bread will rise as well andthere will be no sweetener left in the bread in its original form (it is "eaten" by the yeast).  I, like you, cannot eat yeast breads on-going all the time.  I eat yeast breads frugally.  I think I tried the one you mention--called for a dutch oven and a plastic 6 qt container to mix and store it in???  It was really good.  I liked.  Hada great crust which you usually don't get with a gf bread.  OKAY, offtopic yet again.  lol
 
Diane

--- On Wed, 2/24/10, R. Ticle <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: R. Ticle <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Gluten Free Diet
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 8:20 AM


 



Hey Loni,

I know it can be hard; you should've seen me when I first realized I had todo it.  "What? No more bread? No more BEER?!"

But it can be done.  I kind of look at it like, if something makes youfeel sick enough, enough times, you realize that it's a matter of choosingto feel awful, or choosing to feel better by avoiding it.  I did the same thing when I stopped...um. ..abusing certain substances in my late teen and early twenties; enough was enough.

And I've since eliminated, at least for the time being (and maybe long termif I find it does me great good), even more foods: dried fruits, honey, concentrated sugar, pretty much all grains (even gluten free ones), most nuts/seeds.. .all foods I enjoy, but there's clearly an imbalance that needs correcting, and right now it seems that my body is doing better without thesethings.

But if you're good with gluten free grains, go for them! I have tried some commercially available rice breads that are actually quite nice; some, especially those made with brown rice (more nutritious than white) can be a bitcrumbly, but not bad.  Other ones like millet or buckwheat or amaranth breads can be quite crumbly indeed, and have a robust flavor that takes some getting used to, though are high in nutrients and protein (for a bread,at least).

And of course you can get into cooking the whole grains (millet, quinoa, amaranth, buckwheat, sorghum, rice, etc.) and eating them that way - and if you're okay with fresh fruit, use more of that, and vegetables, for carbs.  Or eat more fat if you're fine with it, for caloric energy.

I know that giving up the chewy, sweet, fragrant satisfying sensation of wheat, or rye, or spelt, especially as bread, can be hard - but if you know it's bad for you, and bad for your guts, it's worth it.  Trust me, dealing with guts that are irritated or impaired can mean dealing with other symptoms that many wouldn't even consider to be a part of digestive health - they're a big part of our system and connected to other parts of us.  Better to give them a rest if you know you can. 

Consider it good that you know gluten causes you problems! Just think of how many people eat gluten, feel sick from it, and don't know why! You don't need full blown Celiac disease to have trouble with that particular grain protein.

Sorry about the length of this message; I'm surprised I can type this much about food on an empty stomach, fasting before a physical at the Doctor's...

I had a bread recipe (gluten free of course) bookmarked, entitled "Gluten Free Bread That Just Might Make You Cry [For Joy]"; sounds very tasty. Though, it does have yeast, eggs, honey and apple cider vinegar in it - ifyou're fine with these things, it might help you keep off gluten, 'cause it sounds really satisfying.

Here's the link:

http://glutenfreeba y.blogspot. com/2007/ 02/gluten- free-bread- that-just-might-make. html

Good luck!

R.

--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Gluten Free Diet
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 3:37 AM

 

I am trying do omitt dairy & gluten in the diet but gluten free is really really hard for me. I know it is key to feeling better for me. Any tips on how to stick with this?  Loni

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca> wrote:

From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 8:28 PM

 

Oh yes - I've been completely gluten free and dairy free (except butter) for at least a few years now.  I know it was a problem; the psoriasis I had on my elbows that appeared during lots of rye and cheese sandwiches with yeasty Belgian Ale disappeared after cutting out gluten and dairy.

No, whatever's going on right now may be related in part to some digestive damage from those days, but I'm looking at things differently now, including checking my adrenals, healing the gut, and eating a very un-candida diet;cutting out more hard to digest foods, like beans, other grains, etc.  This is a big overhaul/shift for me, and I'm aiming to go about it the right way.

Cheers,

R.

--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Received: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 12:30 AM

 

I had a lot of digestive issues previously. They have improved significantly since I started eating gluten free. Have you ever tried a gluten free diet?

Good luck,

Jennie

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From: R. Ticle <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:12:31 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sleeping Better

On the note of sleep, I've been undergoing a lot of stress and digestive issues lately, and have again looked for things to help me sleep more/better.I've tried Melatonin in the past with mixed results, though if it's helping you, or anyone, great!

I've been taking about 1.5 servings (teaspoons) of Natural Calm magnesium citrate powder before bed (naturally fruity flavored, naturally sweetened with Stevia); it fizzes and dissolves in hot water - and the hot water I've added it to is a tea made with a dried herb called Wild Lettuce.

It actually is a kind of lettuce, though it contains mild sedative compounds; it used to be called "opium lettuce", though it contains no opioids or anything related to poppies (or illegal!), due to it's use as a "feeble" opium or morphine replacement for pain, insomnia, coughing, etc., for patientswho couldn't tolerate actual opium, or for young children.

I've found that I fall asleep quite quickly, and sleep heavily; I may wake up once or twice but that's been usual for me for years. Mind you, I think that Wild Lettuce has a reputation for enhancing vividness of dreams - sureseems so in my case - and I do wake up feeling a bit dopey - but sometimesbeing able to sleep soundly is worth a couple of tradeoffs.

The magnesium helps relax the body in general, and I believe is antagonistic to adrenaline (it lessens its effect - if you're prone to racing heart, etc.).

Good luck!

--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: [eSens] Sleeping Better

To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here isa recap of my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half mile from my home and "coincidental" I started having sleep problems. As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours andwake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, andafter the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production. Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin andthrough a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me.Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day- the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, butthat is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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