RxDNA and MxDNA Noise Reduction Technology Dissipative Noise Attentuation

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> > I've read several post about Graham-stetzer filter and meter and other
> > brand of this stuff but i like to know if anybody ever herd or tried this
> > model (RxDNA is for home VS MxDNA for industrial) ???
>
> I've never heard this item mentioned... I like the idea of turning the
> noise into heat, but I don't like the price!
>
> Marc
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> --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
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>> > I've read several post about Graham-stetzer filter and meter and other
>> > brand of this stuff but i like to know if anybody ever herd or tried
>> > this
>> > model (RxDNA is for home VS MxDNA for industrial) ???
>>
>> I've never heard this item mentioned... I like the idea of turning the
>> noise into heat, but I don't like the price!
>>
>> Marc
>>
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> I guest no one is interested by the high price unless it is realy working
> good ... :O
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> But when I see Gizmo selling for 30 to 100$ a piece but you need to
> install up to 20 units doesn't bring the price down either !!! :(
>
> I ask several reseller an also the manufacturer ,question about the
> stetzer filter cause i can't measure any difference on the tests I tried
> with my Trifield meter about any radiation benefit from them but when I
> ask to much question up to this point they just stop answering ... so for
> now this filter stuff sound fishy ... Don't know you guys if you got any
> luck or what have you come up to as for witch device work the best for EMF
> or Dirty Electricity removal ???
>
> Thanks!
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> > Use an AM radio
>
> Question:
>
> An AM Radio is commonly recommended here as an alternative to an EMF meter.
> An AM Radio receives signals from 500 - 1600 khz.
>
> I'm wondering if there would be any advantage in seeking out a radio
> that receives "longwave" broadcasts (150 - 300 khz), or "shortwave"
> broadcasts (1700 - 30000 khz). Perhaps there are some harmful frequencies
> that would be picked up by these radios that are not picked up by an AM
> Radio?
>
> Marc
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> > Don't know you guys if you got any luck or what have you come up to
> > as for witch device work the best for EMF or Dirty Electricity
> > removal ???
>
> I suppose it depends on what your goal is -- to reduce the readings
> on your meter, or to feel better?
>
> I've tried various filters that measurably reduce the dirty electricity
> meter readings (Stetzerizer meter, Entech meter), but sometimes that
> makes no difference in how I feel, and sometimes I actually feel worse
> from these filters!
>
> Meanwhile there are things like the Quantum Home and Earthcalm Home
> which have NO impact on these meters, yet do make me feel better.
>
> That said, I do use a Furman "linear filter" power strip (PST-8,PST-10)
> for my computer & TV stuff, which does reduce the meter readings
> without making me feel worse. :-)
>
> Marc
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> For a while I had one.  It picked up some things, but
> usually I found using it in AM mode was sufficient.
>
> I think for most sources, it's better to have as big a bandwidth
> as possible.  Cheaper radios usually have broader bandwidth.
>
> I'm also starting to think, if you get to really big bandwidth,
> you want to make sure the system is "phase linear" which
> means only first order filters (The Ramsey ABM1 has incredible
> 18MHz bandwidth, but the filters are not first order so the bandwidth
> is basically wasted unless you build it from the kit version and
> bypass the filters).
>
> The MFJ-856 has about 100kHz bandwidth, versus about 10kHz
> for an AM radio, and I have reason to think it is phase linear.
>
> There is also a version with a smaller nondirectional antenna
> which LessEMF sells as the Power Line Noise Finder or something.
>
> I think anyone who has $160 left after buying their microwave
> meter should get one of these.  A Tri-field meter is good to have
> too, (with 100x external probe if you have low enough fields)
> but for some people the MFJ-856 will be more important.
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > Use an AM radio
> >
> > Question:
> >
> > An AM Radio is commonly recommended here as an alternative to an EMF meter.
> > An AM Radio receives signals from 500 - 1600 khz.
> >
> > I'm wondering if there would be any advantage in seeking out a radio
> > that receives "longwave" broadcasts (150 - 300 khz), or "shortwave"
> > broadcasts (1700 - 30000 khz). Perhaps there are some harmful frequencies
> > that would be picked up by these radios that are not picked up by an AM
> > Radio?
> >
> > Marc
> >  
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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> For a while I had one.  It picked up some things, but
> usually I found using it in AM mode was sufficient.
>
> I think for most sources, it's better to have as big a bandwidth
> as possible.  Cheaper radios usually have broader bandwidth.
>
> I'm also starting to think, if you get to really big bandwidth,
> you want to make sure the system is "phase linear" which
> means only first order filters (The Ramsey ABM1 has incredible
> 18MHz bandwidth, but the filters are not first order so the bandwidth
> is basically wasted unless you build it from the kit version and
> bypass the filters).
>
> The MFJ-856 has about 100kHz bandwidth, versus about 10kHz
> for an AM radio, and I have reason to think it is phase linear.
>
> There is also a version with a smaller nondirectional antenna
> which LessEMF sells as the Power Line Noise Finder or something.
>
> I think anyone who has $160 left after buying their microwave
> meter should get one of these.  A Tri-field meter is good to have
> too, (with 100x external probe if you have low enough fields)
> but for some people the MFJ-856 will be more important.
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > Use an AM radio
> >
> > Question:
> >
> > An AM Radio is commonly recommended here as an alternative to an EMF meter.
> > An AM Radio receives signals from 500 - 1600 khz.
> >
> > I'm wondering if there would be any advantage in seeking out a radio
> > that receives "longwave" broadcasts (150 - 300 khz), or "shortwave"
> > broadcasts (1700 - 30000 khz). Perhaps there are some harmful frequencies
> > that would be picked up by these radios that are not picked up by an AM
> > Radio?
> >
> > Marc
> >  
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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> It's tough to get a filter that really works unless it has
> a good ground that you don't mind contaminating (i.e.,
> the whole thing is far away from you).
>
> I would not bother with Stetzer filters (they might help if
> you are far from it and there is a bad magnetic EMF source
> on the circuit).  You want a big heavy multistage filter.
> But even then you can create ground loops.
>
> The easiest thing is to replace newer wall warts with the old
> linear (preferably regulated) kind.  Jameco sells some.
> Bill
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> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > Don't know you guys if you got any luck or what have you come up to
> > > as for witch device work the best for EMF or Dirty Electricity
> > > removal ???
> >
> > I suppose it depends on what your goal is -- to reduce the readings
> > on your meter, or to feel better?
> >
> > I've tried various filters that measurably reduce the dirty electricity
> > meter readings (Stetzerizer meter, Entech meter), but sometimes that
> > makes no difference in how I feel, and sometimes I actually feel worse
> > from these filters!
> >
> > Meanwhile there are things like the Quantum Home and Earthcalm Home
> > which have NO impact on these meters, yet do make me feel better.
> >
> > That said, I do use a Furman "linear filter" power strip (PST-8,PST-10)
> > for my computer & TV stuff, which does reduce the meter readings
> > without making me feel worse. :-)
> >
> > Marc
> >  
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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> > Isn't the Stetzer filter in a working range of 4kHz to 100kHz so Isn't
> > the AM radio a bit out of range with its 500 - 1600 khz Marc ?
>
> Only if one is using an AM radio to test Stetzer filters... :-)
> I'm more interested in using AM radios to test unfiltered electronics.
>  
> > The RxDNA is approximately 5 Khz to 500 Khz in range ...maybe this does
> > make a difference for some !
>
> Hmmm, I've got a filter which has a far greater range than the Stetzerizer
> filter, but it makes me feel worse in the same way as the Stetzer filter.
> So there's more to it than simply frequency range -- I just don't
> seem to do well with the parallel capacitor shunt filters.

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> > The guy who prone me these one told me about his particular home
> > condition and the bad feeling he got with the Stetzer filter as they
> > actually worsen the problem (more EMF)and then install the RxDNA and had
> > such a calm feeling after installing them so that's why I was asking if
> > they where really that good !
>
> See, now that's a more interesting testimony -- someone who felt
> bad from the Stetzer filter but better with the RxDNA.
>
> (I've got some "Noise Harvesters" from PS Audio, which
> turn noise into light instead of heat, but never noticed any
> improvement from these)

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> > The information on the RxDNA is more specific -- works in a
> > much larger frequency range (5 - 500 khz), and removes 60 watts
> > of line noise.
>
> And the cheapest price I can find for an RxDNA is US$599:
>
> http://us.ebid.net/for-sale/reduce-emf-dirty-electricity-27103461.htm
>
> Seems interesting, although I don't know if it would be
> good/bad/indifferent.
>
> Marc
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