Re: BioProtect card, Quantum Pro and Stetzer

> Charles,
>
> I want to know more about your bioresonance machine.
> Phyllicia
>
> charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello Christine,
>
>
>
> But this spitting test in water works very instantly.
>
> Of course I found the Candida by myself.
>
> Three sessions on my bioresonance machine, and it is gone.
> No strings going down in the water jar.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "eleccentric" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 16:05
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Candida
>
> > Charles, Interesting Info! Thanks! I had suggested for years to Dr's
> > that could I possibly have internal candida (d/t episodic severe
> > abdominal pain) and they all responded that this wasn't possible.
> > Well! Upon recognizing my ES last May, 2005, I went to Environmental
> > Health Clinic, Dallas, TX (Dr. William Rae) end of June 2005 and was
> > told that this, in fact, was present! I will check out the
> > additional info you have provided. Thanks again for contributing to
> > awareness! I wish traditional MD's could afford the time to become
> > enlightened (to ES, ill-effects of 50/60Hz, ELF, VLF, micro and radio
> > waves and to the value of nutritional supplements, herbal remedies,
> > etc...) As I grow more aware of issues of consideration to ES, I, at
> > times, feel overwhelmed, primarily due to my limited knowledge of EMF
> > spectrum, technicalities of EMF generation/transmission/fq vs. power
> > intensity, body chemistry/biology, alternative medicines/approaches,
> > etc.. Thanks, again! Christine
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
> >> Many symptoms of electrosensibility may come from Candida
> > (albicans).
> >> That is a different chapter and something one should be aware of
> > quite well.
> >>
> >> (It is all written on my HP starting at:
> >> http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina100.html
> >> and following pages.
> >> But most people do not take the trouble in reading that.
> >> They wait till somebody brings it with a spoon.)
> >>
> >> There is a simple test to determine if you have Candida:
> >> See: http://www.1stcandidacure.com/candidatest.html
> >>
> >> First thing in the morning, before you put ANYTHING in your mouth,
> > fill a
> >> clear glass with room temperature bottled water.Try not to use tap
> > water to
> >> eliminate the possibility of mineral and chemical contamination.
> >>
> >> Work up a bit of saliva, then spit it into the glass of water.
> > Check the
> >> water every 15 minutes or so for up to one hour.
> >>
> >> If you have candidiasis, you will see strings (like legs) traveling
> > down
> >> into the water from the saliva floating on the top, or "cloudy"
> > saliva will
> >> sink to the bottom of the glass, or cloudy specks will seem to be
> > suspended
> >> in the water.
> >>
> >> And if you have Candida, take proper actions.
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >> Charles Claessens
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>Universities in Canada, the University in my city, the one I
>attended, have programs in
>Electrochemical Engineering.
>
>There are applied programs in chemistry for which you study
>electromagentic processes of
>chemicals.
>
>It would appear that not understanding how electricity comes from
>chemicals is not an
>impediment to establishing whole university programs at accredited
>instiutions.
>
>Chemicals do make electricity, in fact, electricty is derived from
>the chemical composition
>of earth (hydrocarbon products, wind, water, and chemical (nuclear).
>Electricity is
>manufactured and in the manufacturing process, chemical byproducts,
>dangerous ones,
>are produced.
>
>The National Geographic this month has an excellent article called
>the Chemicals Within
>Us.
>
>A "little" chemical exposure can cause severe electrical sensativity
>and hypersensativity
>problems in people. These are well documented.
>
>And just for the record, when you burn a fluorescent bulb, there is
>mercury vapour
>emitted.....so where does the chemical end and the electricity start.
>
>Karen
>
>--- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <nonengbunny@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Charles,
> >
> > Too low for many to perceive, not all, and who knows what the animals
> > perceive on that level. I'm sure a whole lot more than most of us.
> > Right perspective yes, but just like the subtle diffeneces in the
> > strength of the batteries for fridge, vs. pc, that is subtle, and
> > most people don't you think will say that is imperceptible too?
> >
> > ~ Snoshoe
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Snoshoe,
> > >
> > > I am sorry, but you are unfair to Vinny.
> > > I agree with his remarks.
> > >
> > > But Elektrosmog is not Elektrosmog.
> > >
> > > You proved that yourself.
> > >
> > > The battery on you fridge works different than on the monitor.
> > >
> > > The reason is, that the fridge emits only electrical and magnetic
> > AC fileds
> > > of 50/60 Hz.
> > >
> > > The monitor however gives weaker electrical and weaker magnetic AC
> > fields,
> > > because they have to fullfil the TCO norms, bur they radiate high
> > > frequencies, mostly in the VLF range around 30 kHz.
> > > And those are harmfull for electrosensibles.
> > >
> > > So you perceived the difference between two different sorts of
> > elektrosmog.
> > >
> > > But again, I do know how EHS people may react to very low radiation
> > levels
> > > of elektrosmog, but the electronic levels of chemicals are too low
> > to
> > > perceive.
> > > Chemicals may give smells, and then we come to the chapter of MCS,
> > multiple
> > > chemical sensitivity.
> > >
> > > Satellites do emit also EMF, and their signals are much stronger
> > than those
> > > of chemicals, but hardly anybody *feels* them.
> > >
> > > One must look at this in the right perspective.
> >
>
>

> Hi folks:
>
> In my opinion as an electronics engineer and scientist, there are a
> great numer of mistakes and mis-assumptions in the letter below, and
> thus none of the (mistaken) assertions can support the claims made by
> Karen.
>
> with care,
> --Vinny
>
> At 02:10 PM 10/16/2006, you wrote:
>>Universities in Canada, the University in my city, the one I
>>attended, have programs in
>>Electrochemical Engineering.
>>
>>There are applied programs in chemistry for which you study
>>electromagentic processes of
>>chemicals.
>>
>>It would appear that not understanding how electricity comes from
>>chemicals is not an
>>impediment to establishing whole university programs at accredited
>>instiutions.
>>
>>Chemicals do make electricity, in fact, electricty is derived from
>>the chemical composition
>>of earth (hydrocarbon products, wind, water, and chemical (nuclear).
>>Electricity is
>>manufactured and in the manufacturing process, chemical byproducts,
>>dangerous ones,
>>are produced.
>>
>>The National Geographic this month has an excellent article called
>>the Chemicals Within
>>Us.
>>
>>A "little" chemical exposure can cause severe electrical sensativity
>>and hypersensativity
>>problems in people. These are well documented.
>>
>>And just for the record, when you burn a fluorescent bulb, there is
>>mercury vapour
>>emitted.....so where does the chemical end and the electricity start.
>>
>>Karen
>>
>>--- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <nonengbunny@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Charles,
>> >
>> > Too low for many to perceive, not all, and who knows what the animals
>> > perceive on that level. I'm sure a whole lot more than most of us.
>> > Right perspective yes, but just like the subtle diffeneces in the
>> > strength of the batteries for fridge, vs. pc, that is subtle, and
>> > most people don't you think will say that is imperceptible too?
>> >
>> > ~ Snoshoe
>> >
>> > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hello Snoshoe,
>> > >
>> > > I am sorry, but you are unfair to Vinny.
>> > > I agree with his remarks.
>> > >
>> > > But Elektrosmog is not Elektrosmog.
>> > >
>> > > You proved that yourself.
>> > >
>> > > The battery on you fridge works different than on the monitor.
>> > >
>> > > The reason is, that the fridge emits only electrical and magnetic
>> > AC fileds
>> > > of 50/60 Hz.
>> > >
>> > > The monitor however gives weaker electrical and weaker magnetic AC
>> > fields,
>> > > because they have to fullfil the TCO norms, bur they radiate high
>> > > frequencies, mostly in the VLF range around 30 kHz.
>> > > And those are harmfull for electrosensibles.
>> > >
>> > > So you perceived the difference between two different sorts of
>> > elektrosmog.
>> > >
>> > > But again, I do know how EHS people may react to very low radiation
>> > levels
>> > > of elektrosmog, but the electronic levels of chemicals are too low
>> > to
>> > > perceive.
>> > > Chemicals may give smells, and then we come to the chapter of MCS,
>> > multiple
>> > > chemical sensitivity.
>> > >
>> > > Satellites do emit also EMF, and their signals are much stronger
>> > than those
>> > > of chemicals, but hardly anybody *feels* them.
>> > >
>> > > One must look at this in the right perspective.
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> Vinny Pinto
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>Hello Vinny,
>
>I agree fully with you.
>
>One is comparing apples with onions.
>
>Mostly done by people, who do not know what they are talking about.
>
>Greetings,
>Charles Claessens
>member Verband Baubiologie
>www.milieuziektes.nl
>www.milieuziektes.be
>www.hetbitje.nl
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Vinny Pinto" <[hidden email]>
>To: <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 20:40
>Subject: Re: [eSens] Re:EMF/Chemicals
>
>
> > Hi folks:
> >
> > In my opinion as an electronics engineer and scientist, there are a
> > great numer of mistakes and mis-assumptions in the letter below, and
> > thus none of the (mistaken) assertions can support the claims made by
> > Karen.
> >
> > with care,
> > --Vinny
> >
> > At 02:10 PM 10/16/2006, you wrote:
> >>Universities in Canada, the University in my city, the one I
> >>attended, have programs in
> >>Electrochemical Engineering.
> >>
> >>There are applied programs in chemistry for which you study
> >>electromagentic processes of
> >>chemicals.
> >>
> >>It would appear that not understanding how electricity comes from
> >>chemicals is not an
> >>impediment to establishing whole university programs at accredited
> >>instiutions.
> >>
> >>Chemicals do make electricity, in fact, electricty is derived from
> >>the chemical composition
> >>of earth (hydrocarbon products, wind, water, and chemical (nuclear).
> >>Electricity is
> >>manufactured and in the manufacturing process, chemical byproducts,
> >>dangerous ones,
> >>are produced.
> >>
> >>The National Geographic this month has an excellent article called
> >>the Chemicals Within
> >>Us.
> >>
> >>A "little" chemical exposure can cause severe electrical sensativity
> >>and hypersensativity
> >>problems in people. These are well documented.
> >>
> >>And just for the record, when you burn a fluorescent bulb, there is
> >>mercury vapour
> >>emitted.....so where does the chemical end and the electricity start.
> >>
> >>Karen
> >>
> >>--- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <nonengbunny@...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Charles,
> >> >
> >> > Too low for many to perceive, not all, and who knows what the animals
> >> > perceive on that level. I'm sure a whole lot more than most of us.
> >> > Right perspective yes, but just like the subtle diffeneces in the
> >> > strength of the batteries for fridge, vs. pc, that is subtle, and
> >> > most people don't you think will say that is imperceptible too?
> >> >
> >> > ~ Snoshoe
> >> >
> >> > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hello Snoshoe,
> >> > >
> >> > > I am sorry, but you are unfair to Vinny.
> >> > > I agree with his remarks.
> >> > >
> >> > > But Elektrosmog is not Elektrosmog.
> >> > >
> >> > > You proved that yourself.
> >> > >
> >> > > The battery on you fridge works different than on the monitor.
> >> > >
> >> > > The reason is, that the fridge emits only electrical and magnetic
> >> > AC fileds
> >> > > of 50/60 Hz.
> >> > >
> >> > > The monitor however gives weaker electrical and weaker magnetic AC
> >> > fields,
> >> > > because they have to fullfil the TCO norms, bur they radiate high
> >> > > frequencies, mostly in the VLF range around 30 kHz.
> >> > > And those are harmfull for electrosensibles.
> >> > >
> >> > > So you perceived the difference between two different sorts of
> >> > elektrosmog.
> >> > >
> >> > > But again, I do know how EHS people may react to very low radiation
> >> > levels
> >> > > of elektrosmog, but the electronic levels of chemicals are too low
> >> > to
> >> > > perceive.
> >> > > Chemicals may give smells, and then we come to the chapter of MCS,
> >> > multiple
> >> > > chemical sensitivity.
> >> > >
> >> > > Satellites do emit also EMF, and their signals are much stronger
> >> > than those
> >> > > of chemicals, but hardly anybody *feels* them.
> >> > >
> >> > > One must look at this in the right perspective.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

> Vinny, it is your opinion. Each person here can just look to their own
> universities and
> technical institutes for courses. Google is handy to perform this search.
>
> In fact, each assertion I have made, each of us can search for their own
> determination. I
> don't believe that your electrical engineering status, if professionally
> designated from an
> accredited institute, would qualify you in the area of electrochemical
> engineering or
> petrochemical engineering, as these engineers have their own designation.
> Designations
> apply to all areas in engineering such as structural, petrochemical...etc.
>
> And it is asserted and can be born out by investigation, by anyone, you
> don't need to be
> an engineer or a scientist even, to investigate the generation of
> electricity from Coal, the
> generation of electricty from hydro, or eclectricy from chemical
> (nuclear). Anybody is free
> to research, again using google, to investigate the processes of
> extrapolating electrical
> energy from these materials.
>
> As for National Geographic, well, we all can buy the magazine and read it.
> It is available in
> Canada...British Columbia is where I bought my copy.
>
> And flurorescent lighting by-product is mercury vapour. Again...google the
> terms.
>
> Knowledge is widely dispersed, Vinny, I, meaning no disrepect, hardly
> think you are the
> authority to determine what is accepted as knowledge and normalized data.
>
> Each of us brings to forum, such as this, the best of what we have to
> contribute. When we
> close off our questioning mind to think "how could that be" to one where
> "that cannot be"
> is almost censureship of data.
>
> Each of us has the capacity to explore and analyse and interpret, then
> believe that which
> makes the most sense to us. Sometimes pushing the intellectual envelope
> makes people
> uncomfortable...but that push is the challenge to open our minds to new
> possibilities and
> then we learn solution from discovery. This is innovation. The seed to
> creativity and
> creating new products and finding solutions to the old ones.
>
> Karen
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Vinny Pinto <vinny@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks:
>>
>> In my opinion as an electronics engineer and scientist, there are a
>> great numer of mistakes and mis-assumptions in the letter below, and
>> thus none of the (mistaken) assertions can support the claims made by
>> Karen.
>>
>> with care,
>> --Vinny
>>
>> At 02:10 PM 10/16/2006, you wrote:
>> >Universities in Canada, the University in my city, the one I
>> >attended, have programs in
>> >Electrochemical Engineering.
>> >
>> >There are applied programs in chemistry for which you study
>> >electromagentic processes of
>> >chemicals.
>> >
>> >It would appear that not understanding how electricity comes from
>> >chemicals is not an
>> >impediment to establishing whole university programs at accredited
>> >instiutions.
>> >
>> >Chemicals do make electricity, in fact, electricty is derived from
>> >the chemical composition
>> >of earth (hydrocarbon products, wind, water, and chemical (nuclear).
>> >Electricity is
>> >manufactured and in the manufacturing process, chemical byproducts,
>> >dangerous ones,
>> >are produced.
>> >
>> >The National Geographic this month has an excellent article called
>> >the Chemicals Within
>> >Us.
>> >
>> >A "little" chemical exposure can cause severe electrical sensativity
>> >and hypersensativity
>> >problems in people. These are well documented.
>> >
>> >And just for the record, when you burn a fluorescent bulb, there is
>> >mercury vapour
>> >emitted.....so where does the chemical end and the electricity start.
>> >
>> >Karen
>> >
>> >--- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <nonengbunny@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Charles,
>> > >
>> > > Too low for many to perceive, not all, and who knows what the animals
>> > > perceive on that level. I'm sure a whole lot more than most of us.
>> > > Right perspective yes, but just like the subtle diffeneces in the
>> > > strength of the batteries for fridge, vs. pc, that is subtle, and
>> > > most people don't you think will say that is imperceptible too?
>> > >
>> > > ~ Snoshoe
>> > >
>> > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hello Snoshoe,
>> > > >
>> > > > I am sorry, but you are unfair to Vinny.
>> > > > I agree with his remarks.
>> > > >
>> > > > But Elektrosmog is not Elektrosmog.
>> > > >
>> > > > You proved that yourself.
>> > > >
>> > > > The battery on you fridge works different than on the monitor.
>> > > >
>> > > > The reason is, that the fridge emits only electrical and magnetic
>> > > AC fileds
>> > > > of 50/60 Hz.
>> > > >
>> > > > The monitor however gives weaker electrical and weaker magnetic AC
>> > > fields,
>> > > > because they have to fullfil the TCO norms, bur they radiate high
>> > > > frequencies, mostly in the VLF range around 30 kHz.
>> > > > And those are harmfull for electrosensibles.
>> > > >
>> > > > So you perceived the difference between two different sorts of
>> > > elektrosmog.
>> > > >
>> > > > But again, I do know how EHS people may react to very low radiation
>> > > levels
>> > > > of elektrosmog, but the electronic levels of chemicals are too low
>> > > to
>> > > > perceive.
>> > > > Chemicals may give smells, and then we come to the chapter of MCS,
>> > > multiple
>> > > > chemical sensitivity.
>> > > >
>> > > > Satellites do emit also EMF, and their signals are much stronger
>> > > than those
>> > > > of chemicals, but hardly anybody *feels* them.
>> > > >
>> > > > One must look at this in the right perspective.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Vinny Pinto
>> vinny@...
>>
>> phone 301-694-1249
>>
>> To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to:
>> http://www.vinnypinto.us
>>
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>Hello Karen
>
>Yes, one may read a lot.
>Understanding what one is reading is quite a different thing.
>
>You obviously don't have the slightest idea what you are reading.
>You are mixing apples with olive oil.
>
>Knowledge does not mean in having some loose facts, mixing them, and make
>some false conclusions.
>
>Knowledge means that one understands ALL implications and relations to all
>different relevant facts.
>
>You are comparing an atomic explosion with a 1.5 Volt battery.
>
>Greetings,
>Charles Claessens
>member Verband Baubiologie
>www.milieuziektes.nl
>www.milieuziektes.be
>www.hetbitje.nl
>checked by Norton Antivirus
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "tayloka_40" <[hidden email]>
>To: <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 02:16
>Subject: [eSens] Re:EMF/Chemicals
>
>
> > Vinny, it is your opinion. Each person here can just look to their own
> > universities and
> > technical institutes for courses. Google is handy to perform this search.
> >
> > In fact, each assertion I have made, each of us can search for their own
> > determination. I
> > don't believe that your electrical engineering status, if professionally
> > designated from an
> > accredited institute, would qualify you in the area of electrochemical
> > engineering or
> > petrochemical engineering, as these engineers have their own designation.
> > Designations
> > apply to all areas in engineering such as structural, petrochemical...etc.
> >
> > And it is asserted and can be born out by investigation, by anyone, you
> > don't need to be
> > an engineer or a scientist even, to investigate the generation of
> > electricity from Coal, the
> > generation of electricty from hydro, or eclectricy from chemical
> > (nuclear). Anybody is free
> > to research, again using google, to investigate the processes of
> > extrapolating electrical
> > energy from these materials.
> >
> > As for National Geographic, well, we all can buy the magazine and read it.
> > It is available in
> > Canada...British Columbia is where I bought my copy.
> >
> > And flurorescent lighting by-product is mercury vapour. Again...google the
> > terms.
> >
> > Knowledge is widely dispersed, Vinny, I, meaning no disrepect, hardly
> > think you are the
> > authority to determine what is accepted as knowledge and normalized data.
> >
> > Each of us brings to forum, such as this, the best of what we have to
> > contribute. When we
> > close off our questioning mind to think "how could that be" to one where
> > "that cannot be"
> > is almost censureship of data.
> >
> > Each of us has the capacity to explore and analyse and interpret, then
> > believe that which
> > makes the most sense to us. Sometimes pushing the intellectual envelope
> > makes people
> > uncomfortable...but that push is the challenge to open our minds to new
> > possibilities and
> > then we learn solution from discovery. This is innovation. The seed to
> > creativity and
> > creating new products and finding solutions to the old ones.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Vinny Pinto <vinny@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi folks:
> >>
> >> In my opinion as an electronics engineer and scientist, there are a
> >> great numer of mistakes and mis-assumptions in the letter below, and
> >> thus none of the (mistaken) assertions can support the claims made by
> >> Karen.
> >>
> >> with care,
> >> --Vinny
> >>
> >> At 02:10 PM 10/16/2006, you wrote:
> >> >Universities in Canada, the University in my city, the one I
> >> >attended, have programs in
> >> >Electrochemical Engineering.
> >> >
> >> >There are applied programs in chemistry for which you study
> >> >electromagentic processes of
> >> >chemicals.
> >> >
> >> >It would appear that not understanding how electricity comes from
> >> >chemicals is not an
> >> >impediment to establishing whole university programs at accredited
> >> >instiutions.
> >> >
> >> >Chemicals do make electricity, in fact, electricty is derived from
> >> >the chemical composition
> >> >of earth (hydrocarbon products, wind, water, and chemical (nuclear).
> >> >Electricity is
> >> >manufactured and in the manufacturing process, chemical byproducts,
> >> >dangerous ones,
> >> >are produced.
> >> >
> >> >The National Geographic this month has an excellent article called
> >> >the Chemicals Within
> >> >Us.
> >> >
> >> >A "little" chemical exposure can cause severe electrical sensativity
> >> >and hypersensativity
> >> >problems in people. These are well documented.
> >> >
> >> >And just for the record, when you burn a fluorescent bulb, there is
> >> >mercury vapour
> >> >emitted.....so where does the chemical end and the electricity start.
> >> >
> >> >Karen
> >> >

> --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
>>
>
>> Knowledge means that one understands ALL implications and relations to
>> all
>> different relevant facts.
>>
>
> May I suggest the better word would have been "wisdom".
> It applies in one's own world, and tends to be unique.
>
> William
>
>

>--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
> > Knowledge means that one understands ALL implications and relations to all
> > different relevant facts.
>
>May I suggest the better word would have been "wisdom".
>It applies in one's own world, and tends to be unique.
>
>William
>
>

> > Yes, I much agree, and I am sure that Charles meant wisdom. I would
> > also add sanity, clarity and intuition. Unfortunately, some persons
> > who post here are largely lacking some of those qualities when they
> > stray into realms such as this topic.
>
>Note that I've placed Karen into "moderation" mode, as I did once
>before when she persisted on this topic. I don't see how this
>topic ("chemicals emitting EMF") is getting us anywhere other
>than causing an extended argument.
>
>Marc
>
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> > I have seen reports that fluorescent bulbs contain traces of mercury vapour
> > and therefore emit the spectroscopic frequencies associated with mercury.
> > However, this is a very different thing to physically emitting the vapour
> > itself.
>
>This leads to the question -- can someone have a bad reaction to the
>"spectroscopic frequencies associated with mercury" ? And could a
>person's
>bad reaction to flourescent lights be due to these frequencies alone?
>
>Marc
>

>Sorry, Marc, I didn't see this message. I should have noted my
>references. There are
>multiple ones, like Ian noted, however, Ian, the link provided here
>states that vapour is
>emitted while the light is operational.
>
>Thanks for the CMA.
>
>http://nemesis.lonestar.org/reference/electricity/fluorescent/safety.html
>http://irc.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/pubs/cp/lig3_e.html
>
>Karen
>
>--- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:
> >
> > I have seen reports that fluorescent bulbs contain traces of mercury vapour
> > and therefore emit the spectroscopic frequencies associated with mercury.
> > However, this is a very different thing to physically emitting the vapour
> > itself.
> > Ian
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
> Behalf Of Marc
> > Martin
> > Sent: 17 October 2006 19:51
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re:EMF/Chemicals
> >
> >
> >
> > > Yes, I agree. Thank you! I run about a dozen list groups myself, and
> > > so I know what you must go through at times!
> >
> > Well, we do need to keep the discussion more-or-less on-topic.
> > The topic of "eSens" is improving one's electrical hypersensitivity.
> > Certainly reducing one's exposure to toxic chemicals can
> > be helpful, but one doesn't need to spend their time researching
> > the EMF emissions or electrical properties of chemicals to do this.
> >
> > Karen, you made an assertion that flourescent bulbs emit mercury
> > vapor, yet you didn't supply a reference. Do you have one?
> > I know that the bulbs contain mercury, but I don't recall
> > ever seeing someone measuring an increase in mercury vapor
> > outside of an (intact) bulb.
> >
> > Marc
> >

>There is a Swedish study, I heard about the study via CBC radio and
>will look for a web link
>to it, that indicates that fluorescent lighting decreases
>testosterone levels...process is
>emulsification, and causes infertility, low sperm count, and low motility.
>
>There is also the consideration of aluminum in the constuction
>material of the bulb. Both
>Mercury and Aluminum have been introduced as antigents in congitive
>functioning.
>
>Also...lead...
>
>Karen
>
>--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I have seen reports that fluorescent bulbs contain traces of
> mercury vapour
> > > and therefore emit the spectroscopic frequencies associated with mercury.
> > > However, this is a very different thing to physically emitting the vapour
> > > itself.
> >
> > This leads to the question -- can someone have a bad reaction to the
> > "spectroscopic frequencies associated with mercury" ? And could a
> > person's
> > bad reaction to flourescent lights be due to these frequencies alone?
> >
> > Marc
> >
>

> Martin
> Sent: 17 October 2006 19:51
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re:EMF/Chemicals
>
>
>
> > Yes, I agree. Thank you! I run about a dozen list groups myself, and
> > so I know what you must go through at times!
>
> Well, we do need to keep the discussion more-or-less on-topic.
> The topic of "eSens" is improving one's electrical hypersensitivity.
> Certainly reducing one's exposure to toxic chemicals can
> be helpful, but one doesn't need to spend their time researching
> the EMF emissions or electrical properties of chemicals to do this.
>
> Karen, you made an assertion that flourescent bulbs emit mercury
> vapor, yet you didn't supply a reference. Do you have one?
> I know that the bulbs contain mercury, but I don't recall
> ever seeing someone measuring an increase in mercury vapor
> outside of an (intact) bulb.
>
> Marc
>
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