Question on cable co

I got a call from a cable co. that told me they don't offer wireless internet any longer. They use fiber optics through a cable only. That if wanted wireless had to get a router.

If that's true there has been progress. Anyone know about this? I would siwitch if could get rid of the phone co's modem we have to disable wi-fi if there's is better.


Kathy


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Said they don't use voice over internet protocol either. 
I wondered how that would work well anyway.

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I got a call from a cable co. that told me they don't offer wireless internet any longer. They use fiber optics through a cable only. That if wanted wireless had to get a router.



If that's true there has been progress. Anyone know about this? I would siwitch if could get rid of the phone co's modem we have to disable wi-fi if there's is better.



Kathy



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> I got a call from a cable co. that told me they don't offer
>  wireless internet any longer. They use fiber optics through
> a cable only. That if wanted wireless had to get a router.
>
> If that's true there has been progress. Anyone know about this?
> I would switch if could get rid of the phone co's modem we have
> to disable wi-fi if there's is better.

Why is this progress? If a cable customer wants Wi-Fi, then there
is nothing stopping them from using their own Wi-Fi router.

Also, if you have DSL or cable, there is certainly
a modem that you can get for it that would not have any wireless
capability in it.  You'd just need to buy something off eBay
for that.  We've got a Cisco 678 modem for our DSL -- ancient,
but no Wi-Fi.  And many available on eBay.

Marc

  There is progress in some countries --but the opposite in the US and Canada......though there are a few spots in those countries where people are waking up ...slowly but surely.....

   This article has a  section called "Cell phone warnings from all over the world" that you might find interesting....
Cell phones as bad as x-rays
http://alternative-doctor.com/cell-phones-as-bad-as-x-rays
     
For example in India they are replacing all their cell towers with fiber optics - in fact this last year they replaced 87 towers with fiber optics..

Excerpt from .......
Cell phones as bad as x-rays
http://alternative-doctor.com/cell-phones-as-bad-as-x-rays/ 

INDIA

The public health catastrophe being unleashed by indiscriminate use of wireless phones is further brought into focus by a double-blind medical study completed in India in 2005 and published in the Indian Journal of Human Genetics.(23)

The study analyzed micronucleated cell damage in blood and buccal (mouth) tissues of people who use their cell phone one to 15 hours a day. The control group had never used cell phones at any time. DNA samples were coded and scored blind in strict protocol.

The test results of the "Indian study" are as stunning as the REFLEX work. The non cell phone users had an average of only four percent of their cells with DNA damage. The human body has a chance of meeting this moderate cellular reconstruction challenge, although every DNA repair operation carries with it a chance of error.

A whopping average of 39.75 percent of cells taken from mobile phone users showed DNA damage. The blood of one 24-year-old male revealed 63 percent micronucleated cells. He had used a cell phone for 1-2 hours per day for two years, the norm for millions of kids.

The Indian study confirms that the human body, overwhelmed with the continual and brutal assault of wireless radiation, is unable to perform normal cellular repair. Other studies confirm that microwave radiation, which causes a critical need for continual cellular repair, simultaneously shuts down cellular repair mechanisms.(24) The body's exhausted immune and repair systems eventually become too decimated to do much more than survive poorly.

Reference:
23. Ghandi, G. "Genetic Damage in Mobile Phone Users: Some Preliminary Findings," Indian J Hum Genetics, 2005, 11:99-104.

India - Radiation from Mobile Phone Towers
Further, based on the recommendations of the Inter-Ministerial Committee on radiation, norms for exposure limit for the Radio Frequency Field (Base Station Emissions) has been reduced to 1/10th of the existing limits prescribed by ICNIRP. Effective date of these directions, which was initially 1st April 2012, has been extended to 01.09.2012.
http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=83130

Cut Cellphone Tower Radiation by 90%: Gov to Mobile Operators                            
Indian government has extended by five months the deadline for cutting radiation from cellphone towers by 90%, the government informed the Lok Sabha today
http://rtn.asia/1242_cut-cellphone-tower-radiation-90-gov-mobile-operators

11/11 India - Radiation emission guidelines set for mobile phones    
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-11-19/news/30419525_1_sar-level-mobile-phones-handsets 

           blessings
              Shan



--- In [hidden email], KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote:

   Actually I thought this was progress too. For a "company" to promote the use of fiber optics instead of wireless is a definite step in the right direction, in my perception anyways. In my perception the majority of the current issues with smart meters could have been avoided if the "companies" had not insisted on putting the smart meters on every house/apartment/etc - if the telecommunications "companies" had promoted and used safer or safe technology instead of unsafe frequencies.

           blessings
               Shan

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what Kathy is saying... most DSL/cable companies that
I know of (admittedly few) already deliver their Internet services via cable or
fiber optics.  The "wireless" portion is just inside people's homes.

Now, there are other companies, Clearwire for example, that only offer wireless
internet -- that is, nothing is wired into your house at all, and you access the
Internet much like a cellphone would communicate with a cellphone tower.

And frankly, even though DSL is "wired", I really don't like the fact that
there are all these DSL high frequencies added to all of the telephone
wiring in the house.

Marc



On July  6, Shan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>    Actually I thought this was progress too. For a "company" to promote the use of fiber optics instead of wireless is a definite step in the right direction, in my perception anyways. In my perception the majority of the current issues with smart meters could have been avoided if the "companies" had not insisted on putting the smart meters on every house/apartment/etc - if the telecommunications "companies" had promoted and used safer or safe technology instead of unsafe frequencies.
 

  I live in the capital of Canada, Ottawa Ontario - here we have mainly only 2 companies for internet -- Bell does not offer fiber optics at all - they do offer DSL but at a high price. Several months ago they started also offering wireless - but the way they promote the wireless they make it sound as if it is the next best thing to sliced bread........
   The other company that offers internet has always promoted fiber optics --in fact they do offer DLS if you ask, however one still has to connect to cable to use it.

         blessings
              Shan

PS I did not know that DLS added a lot of high frequencies to home wiring. My home was built in 1972 and the smart meters have been playing havoc with the wiring here  - my smart meter is in the utility closet in my basement - actually touching the metal electrical breaker box in there.

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

> PS I did not know that DLS added a lot of high frequencies to home wiring.

DSL adds high frequencies to your TELEPHONE wiring... probably not
as bad as adding frequencies to your electrical wiring.

Now, a consumer CAN add Internet high frequencies to their electrical
wiring by using power outlet adapters that turnyour electrical
wiring into a computer network... I'm not sure if that would be better
or worse than Wi-Fi... (and I don't think anyone here has actually
tried this?)

Marc

The way AT&T Uverse is provided in our market is the central controller for TV and internet comes with the wireless defaulted to "on".  This central unit has the router built-in.  You have to call them to have it turned off, and I found out that if you ever have to do a reset, the wireless is turned back on. The never ask if you will be using the wifi; they just irradiate you anyway. We are in an area which is fiber optic.  

AT & T gives you an option to do VOIP (I think) or plain old telephone service.  I opted for the latter.

Jim

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

   I know and understand very little about electricity -- could you please tell me what the benefits would be to turning the home electrical wiring into a computer network?

   blessings
          Shan

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

On July  6, Shan <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  I know and understand very little about electricity -- could you please tell me
> what the benefits would be to turning the home electrical wiring into a computer network?

The reason people setup Wi-Fi in their house is that they want to have
Internet access in various rooms throughout the house.  However,
there are many ways of get Internet access throughout your house:

  1) string very long Ethernet cables to various places in the house

  2) use power outlet adapters that allow computer networking
      to occur on the power lines (so then every power outlet is
      a potential Internet access point)

  3) use telephone outlet adapters that allow computer networking
      to occur on the telephone lines (HomePNA v1.0 and v2.0 -- now
      consider obsolete)

  4) use cable outlet adapters that allow computer networking to
      occur on cable lines (HomePNA 3.0 -- might interfere with your
      digital cable)

  5) use separate 56k modems for each telephone jack

  5) Wi-Fi

So the benefits of turning your electrical wiring into a computer network
is that you don't need to string long Ethernet cables or setup a Wi-Fi
network to get high speed Internet access in various rooms in the
house.

For folks with ES, option 5 is probably the most tolerable (but slow!).
Option 1 is probably the second most tolerable (but can be ugly
with Ethernet cables running all over the house).

Marc

>   5) use separate 56k modems for each telephone jack
>
>   6) Wi-Fi

Some more options:

   7) ClearWire -- every computer in the house communicates
       with a local ClearWire tower (only in places where this is
       available)

   8) 3G/4G modem -- every computer in the house communicates
       with a local 3G/4G cellphone tower.

People always focus on how terrible Wi-Fi is, but I think some of
these options may actually be worse than Wi-Fi!

Marc

Jim,

Yeah, A T & T  irradiates you w their internet.  We were stuck w built in wi-fi & used the cords at the same time.  Took us mos to realize what was going on. We reset to disable it all the time. I read more RF near it, than is in the rest of our home.

Charter now offers wi-fi only if you buy the router.  You need a modem for internet & phone via fiber optics.  Would any part of it have wi-fi built in? I'm thinking a out it.


Kathy


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      The way AT&T Uverse is provided in our market is the central controller for TV and internet comes with the wireless defaulted to "on".  This central unit has the router built-in.  You have to call them to have it turned off, and I found out that if you ever have to do a reset, the wireless is turned back on. The never ask if you will be using the wifi; they just irradiate you anyway. We are in an area which is fiber optic.  



AT & T gives you an option to do VOIP (I think) or plain old telephone service.  I opted for the latter.



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You did misunderstand.  As someone said, A T & T gives you a modem w built in wi-fi. without telling you. We plugged in our cables w/o knowing of wi-fi was blowing at us.

My daughter got migraines with vertigo before we figured it out. 

She is migraine free since it's disabled & our smart meters were removed.


Shan, I'm so sorry you have seizures from wireless. How awful. I'm glad you the fabric is helping. Everyone needs to see what this fabric can do.   It is a shame they need to charge that much.

It is progress, that this cable co. offers a hard-wired option w/o built in wi-fi.

Wireless  RF is highest in homes due to smart meters, unless they live near a tower. Or, they're neighbor is radiating them w wi-fi.

Kathy



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      Maybe I'm misunderstanding what Kathy is saying... most DSL/cable companies that

I know of (admittedly few) already deliver their Internet services via cable or

fiber optics.
The "wireless" portion is just inside people's homes.







Marc



On July  6, Shan <[hidden email]> wrote:

>    Actually I thought this was progress too. For a "company" to promote the use of fiber optics instead of wireless is a definite step in the right direction, in my perception anyways. In my perception the majority of the current issues with smart meters could have been avoided if the "companies" had not insisted on putting the smart meters on every house/apartment/etc - if the telecommunications "companies" had promoted and used safer or safe technology instead of unsafe frequencies.

 



   
     

   
   






 










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On July  6, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote:
> You did misunderstand.  As someone said, A T & T gives you a
> modem w built in wi-fi. without telling you. We plugged in
> our cables w/o knowing of wi-fi was blowing at us.

And you cannot swap the modem they give you with something
else?  I think that where I live, many different models
of modems can be used for both the cable (Comcast) and
DSL (CenturyLink/Qwest).  And many of those models
(mostly the older ones) don't have Wi-Fi built-in.

Marc

Yes, in one house I sometimes visit, if the router is off, but the mobile phone is on, I still have poor sleep and reduced impulse control.

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

The point I'm making is, the company should tell you.. People shouldn't have to get sick 1st to figure it out.

We have not been able to replace ours yet w financial issues. We have a tight budget for 2 yrs. 

Kathy



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      On July  6, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote:

> You did misunderstand.  As someone said, A T & T gives you a

> modem w built in wi-fi. without telling you. We plugged in

> our cables w/o knowing of wi-fi was blowing at us.



And you cannot swap the modem they give you with something

else?  I think that where I live, many different models

of modems can be used for both the cable (Comcast) and

DSL (CenturyLink/Qwest).  And many of those models

(mostly the older ones) don't have Wi-Fi built-in.



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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What are the names of the modems and or routers that are hard wired only? I'm searching Ebay & only see modems w wi-fi so far.

Kathy







 










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> What are the names of the modems and or routers that are hard wired only?
> I'm searching Ebay & only see modems w wi-fi so far.

Are you looking for a cable modem or a DSL modem?  They are different.

We have DSL, and have used a Cisco 678 modem for years.  It has no
wireless capability.  I imagine it would work on any DSL system,
but you might need to find a computer geek to set it up.  :-)

$10+ on eBay.  And lots of them.

If you need to split the signal to more than one computer, then
I think an Ethernet "switch" works the best.  Netgear makes a
variety of these that have no wireless capability (we've got
an FS108).

If you've got a used computer / electronics recycling place
nearby, you might be able to find these for $5.  In this
wireless world, they are consider obsolete...

Marc

Marc,

Thanks a lot. We might keep the DSL for now. My daughter says it's a reliable connection.

 I looked up the Cisco manual. What is a POTS splitter & do you use it?
Is the POTS for multiple computers?

The NetGear fast switch is showing a need for a router & External Firewall? 

I'm sorry I don't know all you do. Just basics. We're using a 2wire from A T & T now. We  we want to replace it.

Kathy

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      > What are the names of the modems and or routers that are hard wired only?

> I'm searching Ebay & only see modems w wi-fi so far.



Are you looking for a cable modem or a DSL modem?  They are different.



We have DSL, and have used a Cisco 678 modem for years.  It has no

wireless capability.  I imagine it would work on any DSL system,

but you might need to find a computer geek to set it up.  :-)



$10+ on eBay.  And lots of them.



If you need to split the signal to more than one computer, then

I think an Ethernet "switch" works the best.  Netgear makes a

variety of these that have no wireless capability (we've got

an FS108).



If you've got a used computer / electronics recycling place

nearby, you might be able to find these for $5.  In this

wireless world, they are consider obsolete...



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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