Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms

Hey Folks,
Came across this report today.
It is long, very detailed but exceptionally well done.
And this report has me wondering, just how much
our ES is directly related to geopathic stress.
Lizzie

Geopathic Stress - Land & Spiritwww.landandspirit.net/html/geopathic_stress.html
     

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Hi Lizzie,

Can you check that link and send again?  I'm not able to bring it up.

Thanks,
Pam

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Hey Folks,

Came across this report today.

It is long, very detailed but exceptionally well done.

And this report has me wondering, just how much

our ES is directly related to geopathic stress.

Lizzie



Geopathic Stress - Land & Spiritwww.landandspirit.net/html/geopathic_stress.html

     



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Try this one.

www.landandspirit.net/html/geopathic_stress.html
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      Hi Lizzie,



Can you check that link and send again?  I'm not able to bring it up.



Thanks,

Pam



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Hey Folks,



Came across this report today.



It is long, very detailed but exceptionally well done.



And this report has me wondering, just how much



our ES is directly related to geopathic stress.



Lizzie



Geopathic Stress - Land & Spiritwww.landandspirit.net/html/geopathic_stress.html



                     



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Hey Liz,

I Googled it up.  I left out the underscore. There is another phenomenon which I also encountered while living in Sleepy Hollow.  It is not mentioned here as it is not mentioned in any of the UK materials that I've encountered.

It was ironic that in his attempt to help me with the extreme EHS that I suffer4ed while staying there.  There were times that I felt radiation pouring (real freaky)  in through the first floor windows.  When the electricity was off briefly, I still felt a tremendous amount of electrical current throughout the home.  The entire neighborhood (hilltop) was entrenched in geopathic conditions.

The one cause that his contact put me onto was the "sloping" condition that was only mentioned in the Vastu (Vaastu) traditions of India (similar to Feng Shui in China).  I am looking for the info the landlord led me to about 3 or so years ago.  It was an accident that someone gave him that reference point because it totally described his house scenario. 

The material focused on direction of dwellings in relation to mountains & slopes that houses are built upon.  It has to do with the direction of the sloping in relation to the house placement.  This was some of the best info I have encountered about this natural phenomenon.  It also used magnetite/lodestone (I believe) outside to counter the effects of the various sloping conditions.

Finally, once I brought in the dowser, he said that every known form of geostress was found at this location (including discarnate energies).  He stilled all of the major vortices (there were some humdingers in that house).  But he made a point to state ultimately it is the energies and attitudes of the people in the house that will effect the health of the energies first and fore most.  In that case, there was someone practicing alchemy and light magic which seemed to affect the house energies profoundly.  Of course, I was the antenna in that situation. It was very intense for me.  Sometimes it felt like cell phones and WIFI were magnetized even though no one but me would be in the home and there were no cordless phones or WIFI in this particle household.  Many other homes in that neighborhood were equally affected by the geopathic conditions of that area.  I guess that's why they ended up calling it "Sleepy Hollow" whether they realized it or
 not.

Pam

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Hey Folks,

Came across this report today.

It is long, very detailed but exceptionally well done.

And this report has me wondering, just how much

our ES is directly related to geopathic stress.

Lizzie



Geopathic Stress - Land & Spiritwww.landandspirit.net/html/geopathic_stress.html

     



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Fascinating although I shudder for what you went thru!
Yes, attitude does play a role. During geomagnetic storms or full or super moons, I find myself having to
be very careful with my moods.
I believe that these strong magnetic fields from geopathic stress trap the ghosts/spirits...(I have had,
in the past, hundreds of these lost spirits released. I can now do this for myself.)
they also amplify
other emfs strongly. Its the layers of an onion, Pam. As I remedy and fix things, like wiring, ect, the affects
have decreased hugely.

Let me know when you find that info, I'd be very interested in reading it.
On a Von Pohl scale of 1-16, my house is a ten!
If my information is correct,  radon is also a huge factor geopathic stress
At this point, I have to seriously ask the question: Are all essers a product of prolonged geopathic stress/
radon exposure?
Lizzie
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      Hey Liz,



I Googled it up.  I left out the underscore. There is another phenomenon which I also encountered while living in Sleepy Hollow.  It is not mentioned here as it is not mentioned in any of the UK materials that I've encountered.



It was ironic that in his attempt to help me with the extreme EHS that I suffer4ed while staying there.  There were times that I felt radiation pouring (real freaky)  in through the first floor windows.  When the electricity was off briefly, I still felt a tremendous amount of electrical current throughout the home.  The entire neighborhood (hilltop) was entrenched in geopathic conditions.



The one cause that his contact put me onto was the "sloping" condition that was only mentioned in the Vastu (Vaastu) traditions of India (similar to Feng Shui in China).  I am looking for the info the landlord led me to about 3 or so years ago.  It was an accident that someone gave him that reference point because it totally described his house scenario.  



The material focused on direction of dwellings in relation to mountains & slopes that houses are built upon.  It has to do with the direction of the sloping in relation to the house placement.  This was some of the best info I have encountered about this natural phenomenon.  It also used magnetite/lodestone (I believe) outside to counter the effects of the various sloping conditions.



Finally, once I brought in the dowser, he said that every known form of geostress was found at this location (including discarnate energies).  He stilled all of the major vortices (there were some humdingers in that house).  But he made a point to state ultimately it is the energies and attitudes of the people in the house that will effect the health of the energies first and fore most.  In that case, there was someone practicing alchemy and light magic which seemed to affect the house energies profoundly.  Of course, I was the antenna in that situation. It was very intense for me.  Sometimes it felt like cell phones and WIFI were magnetized even though no one but me would be in the home and there were no cordless phones or WIFI in this particle household.  Many other homes in that neighborhood were equally affected by the geopathic conditions of that area.  I guess that's why they ended up calling it "Sleepy Hollow" whether they realized it or

 not.



Pam



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Hey Folks,



Came across this report today.



It is long, very detailed but exceptionally well done.



And this report has me wondering, just how much



our ES is directly related to geopathic stress.



Lizzie



Geopathic Stress - Land & Spiritwww.landandspirit.net/html/geopathic_stress.html



                     



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I think there's an geomagnetic earthquake connection with this, increase in tectonic plate stress etc. May be what affects dogs and cats prior to a quake.


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Elizabeth,

Please send info on the   Von Pohl scale for Geopathic stress. I must have missed it.

I'm sorry your house scored high.

How would we look up to see if our Latitude & Longitude cause issues?


We have low levels of radon.




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> On a Von Pohl scale of 1-16, my house is a ten!

> If my information is correct,  radon is also a huge factor geopathic stress

> At this point, I have to seriously ask the question: Are all essers a product of prolonged geopathic stress/

> radon exposure?

> Lizzie

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Good question.  Plus, remember that we are all experiencing the the current earth changes that are being discussed.  At the tip of the iceberg, you have the people who either believe in man-made global warming or not.  Out of these people, some may believe that climate change is the result of other natural factors and some may not have a clue about any geophysical events in the works.  Most people would probably acknowledge that the weather seems to have been extreme for a number of years.  Some may attribute this to man made factors and others may not think that deeply about any of it.

While on this mystical journey, I have encountered many ideas about why all the geophysical phenomena that seems to be occurring.  I've encountered ideas for the first time, like Nibiru, planetoid biospheres, the galactic equatorial plane, the galactic plane, natural climate change, ascension, pole shift...etc.  Recently (like this past week), I encountered the Andromedan Council newsletter which painted an unbelievably pretty picture of future outcomes.  They said that "they" had dealt with the Nibiru issue--taking it out of orbit.  They said that "earth" would be going 4D as of January 2014 and that people would be given a choice.  Maybe that's what's happening now with so many young people dying.  I know of at least 12 over the past 15 months.  But, they state that earth will not be going through a cataclysm-- due to this ascension.  Just sounds way too good for me, sorry.

But, my journey continues...

Yesterday, I encountered someone new.  You have been on this information journey a bit longer than me, I believe.  For me much of this started with vampiric experiences around 2006.  Which then catapolted to living in the same house with a psychic vampire who I still believe was into witchcraft--even though there was no way to prove it.

Next was being evicted from there and ending up in Newark NJ at a co-worker's apartment in a nice complex that used to be 14 story projects where much criminal and toxic human activities had taken place.  As soon as I got there within 36 hours I went from being elated for moving out of the of the other place, to depressed-- like why are these four walls closing in on me?

That was when I realized that the cell phone radiation was frying up the environment outside.  What it really was was a combination of my cell phone (which had already done much damage since I had gotten it that August (my first phone), the WIFI that my co-worker had in the apartment, the cell towers and giant cable satellites a few blocks around me.  Plus, all of the microwave radiation emitting from all of the apartments and townhouses around me.  I also want to add that it may have only been the EMF doing it to me, because I will never know if what I thought may have been ghosts were or not.

Luckily for me, I had Googled up GlobalResearch.ca, my favorite clearing house for geopolitical information. a few months before I moved into that place and came across an article called "the Radiation Poisoning of America."

I started to read it, but then had put it aside as a reference point because I didn't see where what was being said in the article directly applied to me.  It was talking about how a lady worked on a mountain with cell towers in a concentrated form and how she and her entire family got rare illnesses and were dying off.  Though the article also mentioned how many towers were in San Francisco.  At that time it was bout 2500.

For some reason, as soon as the depression hit me in Newark about 36 hours after my arrival-- that article came back in my head and I knew immediately that what I was suffering from had to do with radiation.  I was also blessed to have another book from the prior situaition that talked not only about psychic vampires, but also had portions dedicated to EMF, geopathic stress, dowsers, protection.  It's called "Exploring Auras"- Susan G. Shumansky.  I had ordered it on line.  It was a regular "one stop shop" for all you needed to know about auras and protection-- not a thick book either.

The book was such a mystical gift.  It was so weird that about 3 years later when I hired a remote dowser to clear the house I was telling you about, when I looked back at the section on dowsing, come to find out that the dowser I hired was the same one she had talked about in her book.  That was so freaky to me-- but mystical.  It's all been mystical.  Maybe I was abducted and didn't remember.  I just always thought that I was spiritual.

Once I moved back to Plainfield, where I've lived for more or less 24 years-- that's when everything was supposed to be "normal" again, but from that point on I began to feel other people's cell phones and the rest is history.

The point I started to make before I veered off was yesterday I found this new guy.  His name is Pane Andov and is now a resident of Australia, but he comes from Macedonia originally.  Have you encountered him yet?  I'm glad that I encountered him because he explained to me for the first time what all this talk about global plane is about.  Until that point it was only a term, it had no scientific basis for me.  This guy broke it down-- made the event scientific for me.  You may already know the ins and outs of this.  Personally, I needed to know what the bridge between what the metaphysicians and the scientists was.  Pane Andov gave me that piece of the puzzle. 

Dates are still in discrepancy for me.  Many go to December 21-23, into March 2013 (I think some of this lines up with dates given by the A.C.-- I guess will find out more at that Understanding Our Timelines Webinar next week).  Then there is the January 2014 date and some dates in 2016. 

Apparently a huge amount of energy was released from the center of the Milky Way galaxy.  The energy has been traveling in multiple directions with a diameter of about 26 light years in each direction.  They are supposedly predicting that this energy will hit our sun around December 23, 2012 and that that will cause whatever will domino from there.  This info originally hit science in the 1970'2, but the NASA instruments finally gave credence to it in 2006 (I believe).

According to the A.C. information, "they" have been doing something to our sun to protect us so that this "new Golden Age" can come together.  It still sounds way to convenient for my jaded little mind to fully embrace.  But according to Andov and many others, the key here is to choose love (whatever that means to them).

If you haven't heard anything of this Pane Andov here is the link to the first video I saw:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q2Du_DkKbo&feature=g-vrec

or Expected Cosmic Events in 2012 by Pane Andov.  It's pretty short only about 1 hour and 15 mins.  He gets deep into crop circle interpretation.  He always tells his personal story at the beginning of all his presentations. So after the first, you can fast forward on his future videos.

Another that came to me yesterday was this one about underground bases:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzWGsO0F3b8

or The Underground - A Hidden Reality and the True Story of Phil Schneider.mp4.  This one's about 1:20:00.  Who knows if these things are true?  I just started this one, seems interesting.

You getting all of this?  Oh, I see that One Spirit book club sells books on haunted houses, too.  Quite a market there, I see. Best wishes on that project!!

I definitely got your birthdate info.  Thank you for trusting me-- hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-----. I'm only joking. 10/24/59. 

Well, first I can say that you are a 2-4/ 6; birthpath=4; with the streak of patience and double 9 perfectionism. Libra-Scorpio cusp energy- "Cusp of Drama & Criticism" (Marc better watch out!).  The moon in Leo does not surprise me at all, with that fiery expression of yours and that two nine perfectionism rooted in that 4 work ethic.  Yeah-- that's you.  Here's an added bonus:  Your destiny is called "Discipline"  which means that you came into life with Aries 1 "child" energy and you should leave out of here with the "perfectionist" of Libra 1.  6 is a great number for a Libra.  It is rooted in people, community and society.  Your release point is to let go of the overly high standards that you set for either yourself or others in exchange for the "joy of effecting positive change" as your reward point. Your personal challenge is to "soften the expression of your opinions".  The system is that of "Personology"  borrowed from the book The
 Secret Book of Destiny by Gary Goldschneider & Joost Elffers. Enjoy!

Have a great week!!!
Pamela


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Fascinating although I shudder for what you went thru!

Yes, attitude does play a role. During geomagnetic storms or full or super moons, I find myself having to

be very careful with my moods.

I believe that these strong magnetic fields from geopathic stress trap the ghosts/spirits...(I have had,

in the past, hundreds of these lost spirits released. I can now do this for myself.)

they also amplify

other emfs strongly. Its the layers of an onion, Pam. As I remedy and fix things, like wiring, ect, the affects

have decreased hugely.



Let me know when you find that info, I'd be very interested in reading it.

On a Von Pohl scale of 1-16, my house is a ten!

If my information is correct,  radon is also a huge factor geopathic stress

At this point, I have to seriously ask the question: Are all essers a product of prolonged geopathic stress/

radon exposure?

Lizzie

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Subject: Re: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms



Hey Liz,



I Googled it up.  I left out the underscore. There is another phenomenon which I also encountered while living in Sleepy Hollow.  It is not mentioned here as it is not mentioned in any of the UK materials that I've encountered.



It was ironic that in his attempt to help me with the extreme EHS that I suffer4ed while staying there.  There were times that I felt radiation pouring (real freaky)  in through the first floor windows.  When the electricity was off briefly, I still felt a tremendous amount of electrical current throughout the home.  The entire neighborhood (hilltop) was entrenched in geopathic conditions.



The one cause that his contact put me onto was the "sloping" condition that was only mentioned in the Vastu (Vaastu) traditions of India (similar to Feng Shui in China).  I am looking for the info the landlord led me to about 3 or so years ago.  It was an accident that someone gave him that reference point because it totally described his house scenario.  



The material focused on direction of dwellings in relation to mountains & slopes that houses are built upon.  It has to do with the direction of the sloping in relation to the house placement.  This was some of the best info I have encountered about this natural phenomenon.  It also used magnetite/lodestone (I believe) outside to counter the effects of the various sloping conditions.



Finally, once I brought in the dowser, he said that every known form of geostress was found at this location (including discarnate energies).  He stilled all of the major vortices (there were some humdingers in that house).  But he made a point to state ultimately it is the energies and attitudes of the people in the house that will effect the health of the energies first and fore most.  In that case, there was someone practicing alchemy and light magic which seemed to affect the house energies profoundly.  Of course, I was the antenna in that situation. It was very intense for me.  Sometimes it felt like cell phones and WIFI were magnetized even though no one but me would be in the home and there were no cordless phones or WIFI in this particle household.  Many other homes in that neighborhood were equally affected by the geopathic conditions of that area.  I guess that's why they ended up calling it "Sleepy Hollow" whether they realized it or



not.



Pam



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Date: Saturday, May 12, 2012, 6:47 PM



Hey Folks,



Came across this report today.



It is long, very detailed but exceptionally well done.



And this report has me wondering, just how much



our ES is directly related to geopathic stress.



Lizzie



Geopathic Stress - Land & Spiritwww.landandspirit.net/html/geopathic_stress.html



                     



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This is going too much off-topic, and has little te do wuth eSens.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by NIS2012

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  Good question. Plus, remember that we are all experiencing the the current earth changes that are being discussed. At the tip of the iceberg, you have the people who either believe in man-made global warming or not. Out of these people, some may believe that climate change is the result of other natural factors and some may not have a clue about any geophysical events in the works. Most people would probably acknowledge that the weather seems to have been extreme for a number of years. Some may attribute this to man made factors and others may not think that deeply about any of it.

  While on this mystical journey, I have encountered many ideas about why all the geophysical phenomena that seems to be occurring. I've encountered ideas for the first time, like Nibiru, planetoid biospheres, the galactic equatorial plane, the galactic plane, natural climate change, ascension, pole shift...etc. Recently (like this past week), I encountered the Andromedan Council newsletter which painted an unbelievably pretty picture of future outcomes. They said that "they" had dealt with the Nibiru issue--taking it out of orbit. They said that "earth" would be going 4D as of January 2014 and that people would be given a choice. Maybe that's what's happening now with so many young people dying. I know of at least 12 over the past 15 months. But, they state that earth will not be going through a cataclysm-- due to this ascension. Just sounds way too good for me, sorry.

  But, my journey continues...

  Yesterday, I encountered someone new. You have been on this information journey a bit longer than me, I believe. For me much of this started with vampiric experiences around 2006. Which then catapolted to living in the same house with a psychic vampire who I still believe was into witchcraft--even though there was no way to prove it.

  Next was being evicted from there and ending up in Newark NJ at a co-worker's apartment in a nice complex that used to be 14 story projects where much criminal and toxic human activities had taken place. As soon as I got there within 36 hours I went from being elated for moving out of the of the other place, to depressed-- like why are these four walls closing in on me?

  That was when I realized that the cell phone radiation was frying up the environment outside. What it really was was a combination of my cell phone (which had already done much damage since I had gotten it that August (my first phone), the WIFI that my co-worker had in the apartment, the cell towers and giant cable satellites a few blocks around me. Plus, all of the microwave radiation emitting from all of the apartments and townhouses around me. I also want to add that it may have only been the EMF doing it to me, because I will never know if what I thought may have been ghosts were or not.

  Luckily for me, I had Googled up GlobalResearch.ca, my favorite clearing house for geopolitical information. a few months before I moved into that place and came across an article called "the Radiation Poisoning of America."

  I started to read it, but then had put it aside as a reference point because I didn't see where what was being said in the article directly applied to me. It was talking about how a lady worked on a mountain with cell towers in a concentrated form and how she and her entire family got rare illnesses and were dying off. Though the article also mentioned how many towers were in San Francisco. At that time it was bout 2500.

  For some reason, as soon as the depression hit me in Newark about 36 hours after my arrival-- that article came back in my head and I knew immediately that what I was suffering from had to do with radiation. I was also blessed to have another book from the prior situaition that talked not only about psychic vampires, but also had portions dedicated to EMF, geopathic stress, dowsers, protection. It's called "Exploring Auras"- Susan G. Shumansky. I had ordered it on line. It was a regular "one stop shop" for all you needed to know about auras and protection-- not a thick book either.

  The book was such a mystical gift. It was so weird that about 3 years later when I hired a remote dowser to clear the house I was telling you about, when I looked back at the section on dowsing, come to find out that the dowser I hired was the same one she had talked about in her book. That was so freaky to me-- but mystical. It's all been mystical. Maybe I was abducted and didn't remember. I just always thought that I was spiritual.

  Once I moved back to Plainfield, where I've lived for more or less 24 years-- that's when everything was supposed to be "normal" again, but from that point on I began to feel other people's cell phones and the rest is history.

  The point I started to make before I veered off was yesterday I found this new guy. His name is Pane Andov and is now a resident of Australia, but he comes from Macedonia originally. Have you encountered him yet? I'm glad that I encountered him because he explained to me for the first time what all this talk about global plane is about. Until that point it was only a term, it had no scientific basis for me. This guy broke it down-- made the event scientific for me. You may already know the ins and outs of this. Personally, I needed to know what the bridge between what the metaphysicians and the scientists was. Pane Andov gave me that piece of the puzzle.

  Dates are still in discrepancy for me. Many go to December 21-23, into March 2013 (I think some of this lines up with dates given by the A.C.-- I guess will find out more at that Understanding Our Timelines Webinar next week). Then there is the January 2014 date and some dates in 2016.

  Apparently a huge amount of energy was released from the center of the Milky Way galaxy. The energy has been traveling in multiple directions with a diameter of about 26 light years in each direction. They are supposedly predicting that this energy will hit our sun around December 23, 2012 and that that will cause whatever will domino from there. This info originally hit science in the 1970'2, but the NASA instruments finally gave credence to it in 2006 (I believe).

  According to the A.C. information, "they" have been doing something to our sun to protect us so that this "new Golden Age" can come together. It still sounds way to convenient for my jaded little mind to fully embrace. But according to Andov and many others, the key here is to choose love (whatever that means to them).

  If you haven't heard anything of this Pane Andov here is the link to the first video I saw:

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q2Du_DkKbo&feature=g-vrec

  or Expected Cosmic Events in 2012 by Pane Andov. It's pretty short only about 1 hour and 15 mins. He gets deep into crop circle interpretation. He always tells his personal story at the beginning of all his presentations. So after the first, you can fast forward on his future videos.

  Another that came to me yesterday was this one about underground bases:

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzWGsO0F3b8

  or The Underground - A Hidden Reality and the True Story of Phil Schneider.mp4. This one's about 1:20:00. Who knows if these things are true? I just started this one, seems interesting.

  You getting all of this? Oh, I see that One Spirit book club sells books on haunted houses, too. Quite a market there, I see. Best wishes on that project!!

  I definitely got your birthdate info. Thank you for trusting me-- hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-----. I'm only joking. 10/24/59.

  Well, first I can say that you are a 2-4/ 6; birthpath=4; with the streak of patience and double 9 perfectionism. Libra-Scorpio cusp energy- "Cusp of Drama & Criticism" (Marc better watch out!). The moon in Leo does not surprise me at all, with that fiery expression of yours and that two nine perfectionism rooted in that 4 work ethic. Yeah-- that's you. Here's an added bonus: Your destiny is called "Discipline" which means that you came into life with Aries 1 "child" energy and you should leave out of here with the "perfectionist" of Libra 1. 6 is a great number for a Libra. It is rooted in people, community and society. Your release point is to let go of the overly high standards that you set for either yourself or others in exchange for the "joy of effecting positive change" as your reward point. Your personal challenge is to "soften the expression of your opinions". The system is that of "Personology" borrowed from the book The
   Secret Book of Destiny by Gary Goldschneider & Joost Elffers. Enjoy!

  Have a great week!!!
  Pamela


  --- On Sun, 5/13/12, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

  From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
  Subject: RE: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms
  To: [hidden email]
  Date: Sunday, May 13, 2012, 12:47 PM




















   


     
       
       
       

  Fascinating although I shudder for what you went thru!

  Yes, attitude does play a role. During geomagnetic storms or full or super moons, I find myself having to

  be very careful with my moods.

  I believe that these strong magnetic fields from geopathic stress trap the ghosts/spirits...(I have had,

  in the past, hundreds of these lost spirits released. I can now do this for myself.)

  they also amplify

  other emfs strongly. Its the layers of an onion, Pam. As I remedy and fix things, like wiring, ect, the affects

  have decreased hugely.



  Let me know when you find that info, I'd be very interested in reading it.

  On a Von Pohl scale of 1-16, my house is a ten!

  If my information is correct,  radon is also a huge factor geopathic stress

  At this point, I have to seriously ask the question: Are all essers a product of prolonged geopathic stress/

  radon exposure?

  Lizzie

  To: [hidden email]

  From: [hidden email]

  Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 09:08:08 -0700

  Subject: Re: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms



  Hey Liz,



  I Googled it up.  I left out the underscore. There is another phenomenon which I also encountered while living in Sleepy Hollow.  It is not mentioned here as it is not mentioned in any of the UK materials that I've encountered.



  It was ironic that in his attempt to help me with the extreme EHS that I suffer4ed while staying there.  There were times that I felt radiation pouring (real freaky)  in through the first floor windows.  When the electricity was off briefly, I still felt a tremendous amount of electrical current throughout the home.  The entire neighborhood (hilltop) was entrenched in geopathic conditions.



  The one cause that his contact put me onto was the "sloping" condition that was only mentioned in the Vastu (Vaastu) traditions of India (similar to Feng Shui in China).  I am looking for the info the landlord led me to about 3 or so years ago.  It was an accident that someone gave him that reference point because it totally described his house scenario.  



  The material focused on direction of dwellings in relation to mountains & slopes that houses are built upon.  It has to do with the direction of the sloping in relation to the house placement.  This was some of the best info I have encountered about this natural phenomenon.  It also used magnetite/lodestone (I believe) outside to counter the effects of the various sloping conditions.



  Finally, once I brought in the dowser, he said that every known form of geostress was found at this location (including discarnate energies).  He stilled all of the major vortices (there were some humdingers in that house).  But he made a point to state ultimately it is the energies and attitudes of the people in the house that will effect the health of the energies first and fore most.  In that case, there was someone practicing alchemy and light magic which seemed to affect the house energies profoundly.  Of course, I was the antenna in that situation. It was very intense for me.  Sometimes it felt like cell phones and WIFI were magnetized even though no one but me would be in the home and there were no cordless phones or WIFI in this particle household.  Many other homes in that neighborhood were equally affected by the geopathic conditions of that area.  I guess that's why they ended up calling it "Sleepy Hollow" whether they realized it or



  not.



  Pam



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  To: [hidden email]



  Date: Saturday, May 12, 2012, 6:47 PM



  Hey Folks,



  Came across this report today.



  It is long, very detailed but exceptionally well done.



  And this report has me wondering, just how much



  our ES is directly related to geopathic stress.



  Lizzie



  Geopathic Stress - Land & Spiritwww.landandspirit.net/html/geopathic_stress.html



       



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On May 14, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
> This is going too much off-topic, and has little te do wuth eSens.

Yes, I see that I need to clamp down a bit on the moderation of
this group.

This group is NOT about anything you can think of.  It's about
electrical sensitivity.   I'm sure people can come up with wild
theories about how almost any topic is related to ES, however,
such an attitude will only get you moderated and those posts
rejected.

Marc

I totally disagree.  Electromagnetics and the effects upon sensitive people is exactly what eSens suggests.  We may have different mental and emotional needs, but differences in opinion bring about broader understanding.  I have listened to people discuss MCS and though that is not my concern here, it has been informative.

Geopathic conditions have influenced my EHS just as MCS has influenced the EHS of others.

Thank you,
Pam


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From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, May 14, 2012, 3:04 PM
















 



 


   
     
     
      This is going too much off-topic, and has little te do wuth eSens.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by NIS2012



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  From: pamela clemonts

  To: [hidden email]

  Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 8:59 PM

  Subject: RE: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms



Good question. Plus, remember that we are all experiencing the the current earth changes that are being discussed. At the tip of the iceberg, you have the people who either believe in man-made global warming or not. Out of these people, some may believe that climate change is the result of other natural factors and some may not have a clue about any geophysical events in the works. Most people would probably acknowledge that the weather seems to have been extreme for a number of years. Some may attribute this to man made factors and others may not think that deeply about any of it.



While on this mystical journey, I have encountered many ideas about why all the geophysical phenomena that seems to be occurring. I've encountered ideas for the first time, like Nibiru, planetoid biospheres, the galactic equatorial plane, the galactic plane, natural climate change, ascension, pole shift...etc. Recently (like this past week), I encountered the Andromedan Council newsletter which painted an unbelievably pretty picture of future outcomes. They said that "they" had dealt with the Nibiru issue--taking it out of orbit. They said that "earth" would be going 4D as of January 2014 and that people would be given a choice. Maybe that's what's happening now with so many young people dying. I know of at least 12 over the past 15 months. But, they state that earth will not be going through a cataclysm-- due to this ascension. Just sounds way too good for me, sorry.



But, my journey continues...



Yesterday, I encountered someone new. You have been on this information journey a bit longer than me, I believe. For me much of this started with vampiric experiences around 2006. Which then catapolted to living in the same house with a psychic vampire who I still believe was into witchcraft--even though there was no way to prove it.



Next was being evicted from there and ending up in Newark NJ at a co-worker's apartment in a nice complex that used to be 14 story projects where much criminal and toxic human activities had taken place. As soon as I got there within 36 hours I went from being elated for moving out of the of the other place, to depressed-- like why are these four walls closing in on me?



That was when I realized that the cell phone radiation was frying up the environment outside. What it really was was a combination of my cell phone (which had already done much damage since I had gotten it that August (my first phone), the WIFI that my co-worker had in the apartment, the cell towers and giant cable satellites a few blocks around me. Plus, all of the microwave radiation emitting from all of the apartments and townhouses around me. I also want to add that it may have only been the EMF doing it to me, because I will never know if what I thought may have been ghosts were or not.



Luckily for me, I had Googled up GlobalResearch.ca, my favorite clearing house for geopolitical information. a few months before I moved into that place and came across an article called "the Radiation Poisoning of America."



I started to read it, but then had put it aside as a reference point because I didn't see where what was being said in the article directly applied to me. It was talking about how a lady worked on a mountain with cell towers in a concentrated form and how she and her entire family got rare illnesses and were dying off. Though the article also mentioned how many towers were in San Francisco. At that time it was bout 2500.



For some reason, as soon as the depression hit me in Newark about 36 hours after my arrival-- that article came back in my head and I knew immediately that what I was suffering from had to do with radiation. I was also blessed to have another book from the prior situaition that talked not only about psychic vampires, but also had portions dedicated to EMF, geopathic stress, dowsers, protection. It's called "Exploring Auras"- Susan G. Shumansky. I had ordered it on line. It was a regular "one stop shop" for all you needed to know about auras and protection-- not a thick book either.



The book was such a mystical gift. It was so weird that about 3 years later when I hired a remote dowser to clear the house I was telling you about, when I looked back at the section on dowsing, come to find out that the dowser I hired was the same one she had talked about in her book. That was so freaky to me-- but mystical. It's all been mystical. Maybe I was abducted and didn't remember. I just always thought that I was spiritual.



Once I moved back to Plainfield, where I've lived for more or less 24 years-- that's when everything was supposed to be "normal" again, but from that point on I began to feel other people's cell phones and the rest is history.



The point I started to make before I veered off was yesterday I found this new guy. His name is Pane Andov and is now a resident of Australia, but he comes from Macedonia originally. Have you encountered him yet? I'm glad that I encountered him because he explained to me for the first time what all this talk about global plane is about. Until that point it was only a term, it had no scientific basis for me. This guy broke it down-- made the event scientific for me. You may already know the ins and outs of this. Personally, I needed to know what the bridge between what the metaphysicians and the scientists was. Pane Andov gave me that piece of the puzzle.



Dates are still in discrepancy for me. Many go to December 21-23, into March 2013 (I think some of this lines up with dates given by the A.C.-- I guess will find out more at that Understanding Our Timelines Webinar next week). Then there is the January 2014 date and some dates in 2016.



Apparently a huge amount of energy was released from the center of the Milky Way galaxy. The energy has been traveling in multiple directions with a diameter of about 26 light years in each direction. They are supposedly predicting that this energy will hit our sun around December 23, 2012 and that that will cause whatever will domino from there. This info originally hit science in the 1970'2, but the NASA instruments finally gave credence to it in 2006 (I believe).



According to the A.C. information, "they" have been doing something to our sun to protect us so that this "new Golden Age" can come together. It still sounds way to convenient for my jaded little mind to fully embrace. But according to Andov and many others, the key here is to choose love (whatever that means to them).



If you haven't heard anything of this Pane Andov here is the link to the first video I saw:



www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q2Du_DkKbo&feature=g-vrec



or Expected Cosmic Events in 2012 by Pane Andov. It's pretty short only about 1 hour and 15 mins. He gets deep into crop circle interpretation. He always tells his personal story at the beginning of all his presentations. So after the first, you can fast forward on his future videos.



Another that came to me yesterday was this one about underground bases:



www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzWGsO0F3b8



or The Underground - A Hidden Reality and the True Story of Phil Schneider.mp4. This one's about 1:20:00. Who knows if these things are true? I just started this one, seems interesting.



You getting all of this? Oh, I see that One Spirit book club sells books on haunted houses, too. Quite a market there, I see. Best wishes on that project!!



I definitely got your birthdate info. Thank you for trusting me-- hee-hee-hee-hee-hee-----. I'm only joking. 10/24/59.



Well, first I can say that you are a 2-4/ 6; birthpath=4; with the streak of patience and double 9 perfectionism. Libra-Scorpio cusp energy- "Cusp of Drama & Criticism" (Marc better watch out!). The moon in Leo does not surprise me at all, with that fiery expression of yours and that two nine perfectionism rooted in that 4 work ethic. Yeah-- that's you. Here's an added bonus: Your destiny is called "Discipline" which means that you came into life with Aries 1 "child" energy and you should leave out of here with the "perfectionist" of Libra 1. 6 is a great number for a Libra. It is rooted in people, community and society. Your release point is to let go of the overly high standards that you set for either yourself or others in exchange for the "joy of effecting positive change" as your reward point. Your personal challenge is to "soften the expression of your opinions". The system is that of "Personology" borrowed from the book The

   Secret Book of Destiny by Gary Goldschneider & Joost Elffers. Enjoy!



Have a great week!!!

  Pamela



--- On Sun, 5/13/12, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>

  Subject: RE: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms

  To: [hidden email]

  Date: Sunday, May 13, 2012, 12:47 PM



Fascinating although I shudder for what you went thru!



Yes, attitude does play a role. During geomagnetic storms or full or super moons, I find myself having to



be very careful with my moods.



I believe that these strong magnetic fields from geopathic stress trap the ghosts/spirits...(I have had,



in the past, hundreds of these lost spirits released. I can now do this for myself.)



they also amplify



other emfs strongly. Its the layers of an onion, Pam. As I remedy and fix things, like wiring, ect, the affects



have decreased hugely.



Let me know when you find that info, I'd be very interested in reading it.



On a Von Pohl scale of 1-16, my house is a ten!



If my information is correct,  radon is also a huge factor geopathic stress



At this point, I have to seriously ask the question: Are all essers a product of prolonged geopathic stress/



radon exposure?



Lizzie



To: [hidden email]



From: [hidden email]



Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 09:08:08 -0700



Subject: Re: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms



Hey Liz,



I Googled it up.  I left out the underscore. There is another phenomenon which I also encountered while living in Sleepy Hollow.  It is not mentioned here as it is not mentioned in any of the UK materials that I've encountered.



It was ironic that in his attempt to help me with the extreme EHS that I suffer4ed while staying there.  There were times that I felt radiation pouring (real freaky)  in through the first floor windows.  When the electricity was off briefly, I still felt a tremendous amount of electrical current throughout the home.  The entire neighborhood (hilltop) was entrenched in geopathic conditions.



The one cause that his contact put me onto was the "sloping" condition that was only mentioned in the Vastu (Vaastu) traditions of India (similar to Feng Shui in China).  I am looking for the info the landlord led me to about 3 or so years ago.  It was an accident that someone gave him that reference point because it totally described his house scenario.  



The material focused on direction of dwellings in relation to mountains & slopes that houses are built upon.  It has to do with the direction of the sloping in relation to the house placement.  This was some of the best info I have encountered about this natural phenomenon.  It also used magnetite/lodestone (I believe) outside to counter the effects of the various sloping conditions.



Finally, once I brought in the dowser, he said that every known form of geostress was found at this location (including discarnate energies).  He stilled all of the major vortices (there were some humdingers in that house).  But he made a point to state ultimately it is the energies and attitudes of the people in the house that will effect the health of the energies first and fore most.  In that case, there was someone practicing alchemy and light magic which seemed to affect the house energies profoundly.  Of course, I was the antenna in that situation. It was very intense for me.  Sometimes it felt like cell phones and WIFI were magnetized even though no one but me would be in the home and there were no cordless phones or WIFI in this particle household.  Many other homes in that neighborhood were equally affected by the geopathic conditions of that area.  I guess that's why they ended up calling it "Sleepy Hollow" whether they realized it or



not.



Pam



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Subject: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms



To: [hidden email]



Date: Saturday, May 12, 2012, 6:47 PM



Hey Folks,



Came across this report today.



It is long, very detailed but exceptionally well done.



And this report has me wondering, just how much



our ES is directly related to geopathic stress.



Lizzie



Geopathic Stress - Land & Spiritwww.landandspirit.net/html/geopathic_stress.html



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Sorry Marc,

I believe that the group will censor itself.  My personal experience has seen a direct relationship between EHS and geopathic stress.  In fact, even the symptoms and conditions are very much the same.  I think the topics are complimentary and I think that it is sad when people's understanding is limited that they feel more comfortable limiting others.

Pam

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      On May 14, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

> This is going too much off-topic, and has little te do wuth eSens.



Yes, I see that I need to clamp down a bit on the moderation of

this group.



This group is NOT about anything you can think of.  It's about

electrical sensitivity.   I'm sure people can come up with wild

theories about how almost any topic is related to ES, however,

such an attitude will only get you moderated and those posts

rejected.



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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> I believe that the group will censor itself. 

Umm, the group does NOT censor itself.

The moderator (me) does that.  Unfortunately,
this requires a lot of effort, due to people
who repeatedly attempt to post about
all sorts of things that have nothing to
do with ES.

I suppose if this starts taking up too much
of my time, I'll just start banning specific
people from the group.

Marc

On May 14, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I totally disagree.  Electromagnetics and the effects upon sensitive people
> is exactly what eSens suggests. 
>
> Geopathic conditions have influenced my EHS just as MCS has influenced
>  the EHS of others.

I guess I should clarify that I was not objecting to a discussion of
geopathic stress (maybe Charles was, but I was not).   However,
a quick glance at the email in question reveals many other topics:

  -- Planet X
  -- Climate Change
  -- Ascension
  -- Pole Shift
  -- Cosmic Events
  -- Haunted Houses
  -- Astrology

It is these things that I would say have very little to do with ES.

Thanks,

Marc

Well now, to be fair: houses with high geopathic stress levels are common sites of paranormal activity.
Geopathic stress / haunted houses/ do effect  both sleep and the ability for one's body to heal. Crucial to
Essers and anyone dealing with health issues.
Climate change from the perspective of wild weather, un usual weather, can mean lots of
those funny looking kind of wavy cloud formations that some believe are electromagnetic or electo smog, which
does effect ES people. When its hot, in a heavy cell phone area, the stuff doesn't dissipate as well as in cooler
weather.
Pole shifting is magnetic and many Essers are sensitive magnetic fields. This is why solar storms and geomagnetic
activity make the Es worse, for many.
Planet X is believed by some Scientists to create a hugely strong unhealthy electromagnetic field around the earth, again
something that effects ES people.
As for Cosmic events, although quite controversial, let's face it. Our planet- our nation is under going some very chaotic economic
uncertainties, which effects pretty much everyone. And really, to leave out something this big- would be to ignore a factor that does
play a role in ES. From the telecom law of 1996, which took away the ability to stop a cell tower. To the food regulation laws being
passed, to the right to buy safe food, right to continue getting supplements, this is a part of everything.
Bluntly put, is the media telling us the truth? And if not, then what is the truth? How are we to safeguard what we have, how are we to move
forward if we don't know the truth?
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong Marc. You have taken supplements. You moved to avoid living near a cell tower. You are affected by the newer
cell phones. Therefore, you are affected by the lack of protective standards that rule the telecom industry.
I know, you wanted this site originally to be about Es and symptoms and things that help. But with new information comes NEW insight.
This whole ES thing is a lot bigger then just a health condition.

So tell me again, how does NOT knowing the real truth, help any of us?

What is it you are so afraid of? Afraid to step out of your box of comfort, your mindset that says none of this could possibly have been intentional.
Really? I'll give you one rock solid good argument for that: MERCURY silver fillings. They KNEW in the early 1900's- they were toxic. They knew
the hat makers got sick from working with mercury. Do your research. They bought the american dental association and fooled the public into believing
that mercury was safe, to be permanently installed in the mouth. But the box it comes in? States: use in ventilated areas. Use no touch. FACT! Not conspiracy. And then in
the 70's, they UPPED the amount of COPPER allowed in amalgams. I can go on to Fluoride being a by product of the aluminum waste, to vaccines that never were proven
safe, let alone effective. To Gmo's, and on and on and on. Basically a whole bunch of things we now have to go the extra mile, just to eat clean food. And did you forget that
most if not all of us, who did have our mercury fillings removed, had to PAY out of pocket. Didn't that make you mad?
You want to hide behind that "conspiracy NOT" denial.....your choice. But the evidence and the FACTS speak for themselves.
I fully expected something much higher caliber from someone of your intelligence level.

You see- once that genie gets out of the bottle, you can't put it back. Then like all the rest of us, who've been forced to wake up, you have to face the reality.
The cold hard truth. UNtil we know what we're up against, we cannot fight it and win. Know thy enemy.

LIzzie

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Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 16:37:17 -0700
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      On May 14, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I totally disagree.  Electromagnetics and the effects upon sensitive people

> is exactly what eSens suggests.  

>

> Geopathic conditions have influenced my EHS just as MCS has influenced

>  the EHS of others.



I guess I should clarify that I was not objecting to a discussion of

geopathic stress (maybe Charles was, but I was not).   However,

a quick glance at the email in question reveals many other topics:



-- Planet X

  -- Climate Change

  -- Ascension

  -- Pole Shift

  -- Cosmic Events

  -- Haunted Houses

  -- Astrology



It is these things that I would say have very little to do with ES.



Thanks,



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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Like we're taken seriously now?
As for pole shifts, that is happening, And it does effect the earth's magnetic field, which in turn
effects ES people.
Lizzie






From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries.com>

To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:37 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms



 

On May 14, pamela clemonts <adiaha22@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I totally disagree.  Electromagnetics and the effects upon sensitive people

> is exactly what eSens suggests.  

>

> Geopathic conditions have influenced my EHS just as MCS has influenced

> the EHS of others.



I guess I should clarify that I was not objecting to a discussion of

geopathic stress (maybe Charles was, but I was not). However,

a quick glance at the email in question reveals many other topics:



-- Planet X

-- Climate Change

-- Ascension

-- Pole Shift

-- Cosmic Events

-- Haunted Houses

-- Astrology



It is these things that I would say have very little to do with ES.



Thanks,



Marc



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On May 14, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:
> As for pole shifts, that is happening, And it does effect the earth's
> magnetic field, which in turn effects ES people.

People have been claiming that a pole shift has
been happening for as long as I can remember.
Too bad none of them can provide any credible
evidence.

Marc

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I agree. Those are man made holes.
ES is a mixed bag. Much variability in which frequencies people react to.
There are some of us who are affected by magnetic fields.

From what I've seen myself, geopathic stress amplifies/ magnifies other emfs.
One example of this is bad wiring in the path of a ley line. I have some outlets/wiring
that are not yet fixed; however, they are not in the path of a ley line and do not
put out the fields that the other outlets did , that were right in the path. There is
something to this. Geopathic stress is described as "sick earth meridian" lines.
These ley lines do emit electromagnetic fields, but sorry, I don't happen to have a
german made meter known as the: Genitron Felix-3. Wish I did!

All you techy people, take a look at this info.
www.royriggs.co.uk/www.royriggs.co.../Undreground_Streams.html

Lizzie


From: Elizabeth thode <lizt777@hotmail.com>

To: esens@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:46 AM

Subject: RE: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms



 



Like we're taken seriously now?

As for pole shifts, that is happening, And it does effect the earth's magnetic field, which in turn

effects ES people.

Lizzie



To: eSens@yahoogroups.com

From: maureenan2@yahoo.com

Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 17:42:25 -0700

Subject: Re: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms



I'm glad you've highlighted this Marc, I felt sure this list was for people suffering in various ways from electricity in whatever form that may be. This kind of message relating to haunted houses, pole shifts, cosmic events., opens it up to ridicule, and detracts from the seriousness of a very real problem some of us have.



It's difficult enough to understand as it is, and all some of us can do is report the effects of what we suffer, hoping it can help others who suffer similarly.



Maureen



England



From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries.com>



To: eSens@yahoogroups.com



Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:37 AM



Subject: Re: [eSens] Proof that Geopathic Stress Harms



On May 14, pamela clemonts <adiaha22@yahoo.com> wrote:



> I totally disagree. Electromagnetics and the effects upon sensitive people



> is exactly what eSens suggests.



>



> Geopathic conditions have influenced my EHS just as MCS has influenced



> the EHS of others.



I guess I should clarify that I was not objecting to a discussion of



geopathic stress (maybe Charles was, but I was not). However,



a quick glance at the email in question reveals many other topics:



-- Planet X



-- Climate Change



-- Ascension



-- Pole Shift



-- Cosmic Events



-- Haunted Houses



-- Astrology



It is these things that I would say have very little to do with ES.



Thanks,



Marc



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