Petition title Restrict wifi

http://signon.org/sign/petition-title-restrict?source=c.em.cp&r_by=5244254

Petition title Restrict wifi for health and the handicapped

*By Jennire Wood*

To be delivered to: The United States Senate
 Petition Statement
An estimated 3 to 10% of the popular has suffered from microwave radiation
poisoning due to overexposure to wireless technology which is increasing
day by day. In Europe wireless is being banned in some schools and
libraries due to serious concerns by scientists and others studying its
effects on human health. People like myself who became so ill I nearly died
after exposure to high levels of wireless radiation cannot use wireless
libraries, medical facilities or other public facilities. We propose that
some libraires and medical facilities be hardwired and wireless free so
that people who are disabled like myself can use them. People with my
condition have been forced from homes, cities, and jobs due to pervasive
wireless radiation. We also propose that wireless free zones be
environmentally preserved in certain places so that severely ill and
electrically injured people can live there.




 Petition Background Persons who have become ill from wireless radiation
from cell phones, smart meters and other wireless devices cannot enter
libraries or medical facilities without getting ill. Some even suffer life
threatening conditions. Wifi is being banned in many schools and libraires
etc in Europe due to scientific research showing that children, the ill,
pregnant women & over exposed men are particularly at risk. Studies done by
cell phone companies are not unbiased.


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Hi everyone
 
Apologies at the outset for asking what will appear to many I am sure as an ididot type question, but I have absolutely no technical expertise whatsoever and would appreciate any help anyone can give.
 
I am currently without an internet connection and all of the broadband contracts which are on offer only include wireless routers [I have enquired about the possibility of being given a wired router but apparently they are no longer sold]. I do not like the idea of wireless - for obvious reasons - and would prefer a wired router. The companies all assure me that the wireless router can be converted into a wired router. I know that you can disable the wireless function and use it as a wired router but does that mean that it stops broadcasting a wireless signal around the house?  I have read that many routers are now factory configured to automatically re-enable wifi when they receive an update [which can be several times in a day] so to my mind this would contradict the broadband company claims that a wireless router can be converted into a wired router.
 
I'm in the UK and would be using a PC rather than a laptop
 
If anyone can help with this it would really help me since at the minute I have to schlep to the library every time I want to send an email!!!
 
Many thanks
 
Steph
 

________________________________
 From: Kathy Baumann <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 17:54
Subject: [eSens] Petition title Restrict wifi
 
   
 
http://signon.org/sign/petition-title-restrict?source=c.em.cp&r_by=5244254  Petition title Restrict wifi for health and the handicapped  *By Jennire Wood*  To be delivered to: The United States Senate Petition Statement An estimated 3 to 10% of the popular has suffered from microwave radiation poisoning due to overexposure to wireless technology which is increasing day by day. In Europe wireless is being banned in some schools and libraries due to serious concerns by scientists and others studying its effects on human health. People like myself who became so ill I nearly died after exposure to high levels of wireless radiation cannot use wireless libraries, medical facilities or other public facilities. We propose that some libraires and medical facilities be hardwired and wireless free so that people who are disabled like myself can use them. People with my condition have been forced from homes, cities, and jobs due to pervasive wireless radiation. We
 also propose that wireless free zones be environmentally preserved in certain places so that severely ill and electrically injured people can live there.  Petition Background Persons who have become ill from wireless radiation from cell phones, smart meters and other wireless devices cannot enter libraries or medical facilities without getting ill. Some even suffer life threatening conditions. Wifi is being banned in many schools and libraires etc in Europe due to scientific research showing that children, the ill, pregnant women & over exposed men are particularly at risk. Studies done by cell phone companies are not unbiased.  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]    
         

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On January  6, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I am currently without an internet connection and all of the
> broadband contracts which are on offer only include wireless routers
> [I have enquired about the possibility of being given a wired router
> but apparently they are no longer sold].

I assume that these services still work for people who have the older,
wired routers that used to be sold?  So if you could buy one of these
older routers (from eBay, an electronics recycler, etc.), and then find
someone with enough technical savvy to set it up for you, then there
would be no risk of the wireless reactivating itself.  

Marc

you can get a wired router and as I have done turn off the wireless by  
going online using the ip address of the router which is on the back off the  
router on a sticker.  Once the router wireless is disabled it works the  same
as a wired router.  Wired routers are 2  a penny on ebay just get  one of
these if you dont want to do the latter and it will work for sure - I  have a
local area wired network set up and that's fine, I tend to disconnect the  
phone cable at night if I remember/
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 06/01/2013 15:49:08 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
On January 6, Stephanie Smith _reader41@ymail.com_
(mailto:[hidden email]) > wrote:
> I  am currently without an internet connection and all of the
> broadband  contracts which are on offer only include wireless routers
> [I have  enquired about the possibility of being given a wired router
> but  apparently they are no longer sold].

I assume that these services still  work for people who have the older,
wired routers that used to be sold? So  if you could buy one of these
older routers (from eBay, an electronics  recycler, etc.), and then find
someone with enough technical savvy to set  it up for you, then there
would be no risk of the wireless reactivating  itself.

Marc





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Oh God, if I read this I just would like to run away :-) ... .


--- Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> schrieb am So, 6.1.2013:

Von: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Betreff: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??
An: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Datum: Sonntag, 6. Januar, 2013 16:43 Uhr
















 



 


   
     
     
      Hi everyone

 

Apologies at the outset for asking what will appear to many I am sure as an ididot type question, but I have absolutely no technical expertise whatsoever and would appreciate any help anyone can give.

 

I am currently without an internet connection and all of the broadband contracts which are on offer only include wireless routers [I have enquired about the possibility of being given a wired router but apparently they are no longer sold]. I do not like the idea of wireless - for obvious reasons - and would prefer a wired router. The companies all assure me that the wireless router can be converted into a wired router. I know that you can disable the wireless function and use it as a wired router but does that mean that it stops broadcasting a wireless signal around the house?  I have read that many routers are now factory configured to automatically re-enable wifi when they receive an update [which can be several times in a day] so to my mind this would contradict the broadband company claims that a wireless router can be converted into a wired router.

 

I'm in the UK and would be using a PC rather than a laptop

 

If anyone can help with this it would really help me since at the minute I have to schlep to the library every time I want to send an email!!!

 

Many thanks

 

Steph

 



________________________________

 From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 17:54

Subject: [eSens] Petition title Restrict wifi

 

   

 

http://signon.org/sign/petition-title-restrict?source=c.em.cp&r_by=5244254  Petition title Restrict wifi for health and the handicapped  *By Jennire Wood*  To be delivered to: The United States Senate Petition Statement An estimated 3 to 10% of the popular has suffered from microwave radiation poisoning due to overexposure to wireless technology which is increasing day by day. In Europe wireless is being banned in some schools and libraries due to serious concerns by scientists and others studying its effects on human health. People like myself who became so ill I nearly died after exposure to high levels of wireless radiation cannot use wireless libraries, medical facilities or other public facilities. We propose that some libraires and medical facilities be hardwired and wireless free so that people who are disabled like myself can use them. People with my condition have been forced from homes, cities, and jobs due to pervasive wireless radiation. We

 also propose that wireless free zones be environmentally preserved in certain places so that severely ill and electrically injured people can live there.  Petition Background Persons who have become ill from wireless radiation from cell phones, smart meters and other wireless devices cannot enter libraries or medical facilities without getting ill. Some even suffer life threatening conditions. Wifi is being banned in many schools and libraires etc in Europe due to scientific research showing that children, the ill, pregnant women & over exposed men are particularly at risk. Studies done by cell phone companies are not unbiased.  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]    

         



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Thanks.  I gladly signed, and included comments.

Esther

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well the proof of the pudding is that I left my esmog detector on by the  
side of my router after disabling wireless and it remained and remains as  
quiet as a mouse.
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 06/01/2013 22:58:02 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Oh God, if I read this I just would like to run away :-) ... .

---  Stephanie Smith _reader41@ymail.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
schrieb am So,  6.1.2013:

Von: Stephanie Smith _reader41@ymail.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
Betreff:  [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO
WIRED??
An:  "_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) "
_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
Datum:  Sonntag, 6. Januar, 2013 16:43 Uhr



Hi  everyone



Apologies at the outset for asking what will  appear to many I am sure as
an ididot type question, but I have absolutely no  technical expertise
whatsoever and would appreciate any help anyone can  give.



I am currently without an internet connection and  all of the broadband
contracts which are on offer only include wireless  routers [I have enquired
about the possibility of being given a wired router  but apparently they are
no longer sold]. I do not like the idea of wireless -  for obvious reasons -
and would prefer a wired router. The companies all  assure me that the
wireless router can be converted into a wired router. I  know that you can
disable the wireless function and use it as a wired router  but does that mean
that it stops broadcasting a wireless signal around the  house?  I have read
that many routers are now factory configured to  automatically re-enable wifi
when they receive an update [which can be several  times in a day] so to my
mind this would contradict the broadband company  claims that a wireless
router can be converted into a wired  router.



I'm in the UK and would be using a PC rather than  a laptop



If anyone can help with this it would really  help me since at the minute I
have to schlep to the library every time I want  to send an email!!!



Many  thanks



Steph

________________________________

From:  Kathy Baumann _auburnone277@gmail.com_
(mailto:[hidden email]) >

To:  _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  

Sent:  Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 17:54

Subject: [eSens] Petition title  Restrict wifi



_http://signon.org/sign/petition-title-restrict?source=c.em.cp&r_by=5244254_
 
(http://signon.org/sign/petition-title-restrict?source=c.em.cp&r_by=5244254)   Petition title Restrict wifi for health and the handicapped *By Jennire
Wood*  To be delivered to: The United States Senate Petition Statement An
estimated 3  to 10% of the popular has suffered from microwave radiation
poisoning due to  overexposure to wireless technology which is increasing day by
day. In Europe  wireless is being banned in some schools and libraries due
to serious concerns  by scientists and others studying its effects on human
health. People like  myself who became so ill I nearly died after exposure
to high levels of  wireless radiation cannot use wireless libraries, medical
facilities or other  public facilities. We propose that some libraires and
medical facilities be  hardwired and wireless free so that people who are
disabled like myself can  use them. People with my condition have been forced
from homes, cities, and  jobs due to pervasive wireless radiation. We

also propose that wireless  free zones be environmentally preserved in
certain places so that severely ill  and electrically injured people can live
there. Petition Background Persons  who have become ill from wireless
radiation from cell phones, smart meters and  other wireless devices cannot enter
libraries or medical facilities without  getting ill. Some even suffer life
threatening conditions. Wifi is being  banned in many schools and libraires
etc in Europe due to scientific research  showing that children, the ill,
pregnant women & over exposed men are  particularly at risk. Studies done by
cell phone companies are not unbiased.  [Non-text portions of this message have
been removed]

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stefanie, I had this problem a few months back, I went on ebay and bought all the old wired modems I can find. They retail for about a pound. What ever you do don't get the new wirless modem, because even if you turn off the wifi, it still gives off horendous frequencies in the wired mode,Which I personally found to be worse than the wifi itself..
 
Goodluck.
 
Ada

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2013, 15:49
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??

 
On January 6, Stephanie Smith mailto:reader41%40ymail.com> wrote:
> I am currently without an internet connection and all of the
> broadband contracts which are on offer only include wireless routers
> [I have enquired about the possibility of being given a wired router
> but apparently they are no longer sold].

I assume that these services still work for people who have the older,
wired routers that used to be sold? So if you could buy one of these
older routers (from eBay, an electronics recycler, etc.), and then find
someone with enough technical savvy to set it up for you, then there
would be no risk of the wireless reactivating itself.

Marc



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Hi Ada
 
Thanks for this advice - partic about the horrendous frequencies - I have enough horrendous frequencies to be contending with at the moment witout adding any more into the mix !!!
 
I have been emailing the broadband company to get them to tell me whether the wireless can be permanently disabled [apparently the router is a Technicolour 582n 4 port wireless router if that means anything to anyone out there] and they say it can - although they wouldn't be alive to issues like frequencies etc the way we would.
 
Until recently they were supplying wired routers as part of their package (they still have the set up guides on their website) and I have emailed them to ask whether they could supply me with one of these wired routers but getting them to answer that question in any shape or form has so far proved impossible!
 
Hope you are doing ok
 
Steph
 

________________________________
 From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 12:52
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??
 
 
   
 
stefanie, I had this problem a few months back, I went on ebay and bought all the old wired modems I can find. They retail for about a pound. What ever you do don't get the new wirless modem, because even if you turn off the wifi, it still gives off horendous frequencies in the wired mode,Which I personally found to be worse than the wifi itself..
 
Goodluck.
 
Ada

From: Marc Martin mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com>
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2013, 15:49
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??

 
On January 6, Stephanie Smith mailto:reader41%40ymail.com> wrote:
> I am currently without an internet connection and all of the
> broadband contracts which are on offer only include wireless routers
> [I have enquired about the possibility of being given a wired router
> but apparently they are no longer sold].

I assume that these services still work for people who have the older,
wired routers that used to be sold? So if you could buy one of these
older routers (from eBay, an electronics recycler, etc.), and then find
someone with enough technical savvy to set it up for you, then there
would be no risk of the wireless reactivating itself.

Marc

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Thanks marc ...if only I knew someone who had any technical savv, let alone enough.....which leaves just me and I am fearful that I will end up signing up to a contract for broadband where it turns out I either cannot use the equipment they supply or cannot properly configure any replacement equipment I might buy independently and thus be unable to make it work. You see my dilemma.
Steph 
 

________________________________
 From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2013, 15:49
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??
 
 
   
 
On January  6, Stephanie Smith mailto:reader41%40ymail.com> wrote:
> I am currently without an internet connection and all of the
> broadband contracts which are on offer only include wireless routers
> [I have enquired about the possibility of being given a wired router
> but apparently they are no longer sold].

I assume that these services still work for people who have the older,
wired routers that used to be sold?  So if you could buy one of these
older routers (from eBay, an electronics recycler, etc.), and then find
someone with enough technical savvy to set it up for you, then there
would be no risk of the wireless reactivating itself.

Marc
   
         

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Steph, this is  the modem I bought, it was very easy to connect and install. it is wifi capable, but turning wifi off, on you broadband home page was all I needed to do to disable it. It worked fine with Tiscali/talk talk, can't comment on other ISP's, but for the price it's worth taking a punt.
Be advised that they intend to phase out the capability of these type of modems in the next few years, then it will then no longer be compatable with the newer tech. ( according to the thomson help-desk IT man)
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=thomson+585+modem&_sacat=0&_from=R40
 
Ada

From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 13:09
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??

 
Hi Ada
 
Thanks for this advice - partic about the horrendous frequencies - I have enough horrendous frequencies to be contending with at the moment witout adding any more into the mix !!!
 
I have been emailing the broadband company to get them to tell me whether the wireless can be permanently disabled [apparently the router is a Technicolour 582n 4 port wireless router if that means anything to anyone out there] and they say it can - although they wouldn't be alive to issues like frequencies etc the way we would.
 
Until recently they were supplying wired routers as part of their package (they still have the set up guides on their website) and I have emailed them to ask whether they could supply me with one of these wired routers but getting them to answer that question in any shape or form has so far proved impossible!
 
Hope you are doing ok
 
Steph


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From: ada iye mailto:betty_starbuckle%40yahoo.co.uk>
To: "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 12:52
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??


 

stefanie, I had this problem a few months back, I went on ebay and bought all the old wired modems I can find. They retail for about a pound. What ever you do don't get the new wirless modem, because even if you turn off the wifi, it still gives off horendous frequencies in the wired mode,Which I personally found to be worse than the wifi itself..
 
Goodluck.
 
Ada

From: Marc Martin mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com>
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2013, 15:49
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??

 
On January 6, Stephanie Smith mailto:reader41%40ymail.com> wrote:
> I am currently without an internet connection and all of the
> broadband contracts which are on offer only include wireless routers
> [I have enquired about the possibility of being given a wired router
> but apparently they are no longer sold].

I assume that these services still work for people who have the older,
wired routers that used to be sold? So if you could buy one of these
older routers (from eBay, an electronics recycler, etc.), and then find
someone with enough technical savvy to set it up for you, then there
would be no risk of the wireless reactivating itself.

Marc

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Hi Ada
 
Thanks a milion for this link - I'm not sure if you saw my post back to Marc who was advising along similar lines but I am concerned that if i buy something independently it won't be compatible with the broadband package I am trying to order - they talk about "compatible" routers on their website if you don;t want to order one from them - the company I am looking at is plusnet and as I said before they used to supply a wired router and have a set up guide for it on their website - I am trying to see if I can get an answer from them re whether they would supply me that wired router instead of the wireless one and if the answer to that is "no " I will then check with them whether if I bought that one independently it would still be "compatible" with their package [you would think it should be since they used to supply it - LOL] then I will order one online since people still do sell them and cross my fingers that I can get the whole thing set up
 
Could tear my hair out with frustration at this stage!!!!
 
Will post you back and let you know how I get on but thanks for the help - I am a total non-techy and need all the help I can get!
 
love
Steph
 

________________________________
 From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 16:48
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - ebay link for steph.
 
 
   
 
Steph, this is  the modem I bought, it was very easy to connect and install. it is wifi capable, but turning wifi off, on you broadband home page was all I needed to do to disable it. It worked fine with Tiscali/talk talk, can't comment on other ISP's, but for the price it's worth taking a punt.
Be advised that they intend to phase out the capability of these type of modems in the next few years, then it will then no longer be compatable with the newer tech. ( according to the thomson help-desk IT man)
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=thomson+585+modem&_sacat=0&_from=R40
 
Ada

From: Stephanie Smith mailto:reader41%40ymail.com>
To: "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 13:09
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??

 
Hi Ada
 
Thanks for this advice - partic about the horrendous frequencies - I have enough horrendous frequencies to be contending with at the moment witout adding any more into the mix !!!
 
I have been emailing the broadband company to get them to tell me whether the wireless can be permanently disabled [apparently the router is a Technicolour 582n 4 port wireless router if that means anything to anyone out there] and they say it can - although they wouldn't be alive to issues like frequencies etc the way we would.
 
Until recently they were supplying wired routers as part of their package (they still have the set up guides on their website) and I have emailed them to ask whether they could supply me with one of these wired routers but getting them to answer that question in any shape or form has so far proved impossible!
 
Hope you are doing ok
 
Steph

________________________________
From: ada iye mailto:betty_starbuckle%40yahoo.co.uk>
To: "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 12:52
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??

 

stefanie, I had this problem a few months back, I went on ebay and bought all the old wired modems I can find. They retail for about a pound. What ever you do don't get the new wirless modem, because even if you turn off the wifi, it still gives off horendous frequencies in the wired mode,Which I personally found to be worse than the wifi itself..
 
Goodluck.
 
Ada

From: Marc Martin mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com>
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2013, 15:49
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??

 
On January 6, Stephanie Smith mailto:reader41%40ymail.com> wrote:
> I am currently without an internet connection and all of the
> broadband contracts which are on offer only include wireless routers
> [I have enquired about the possibility of being given a wired router
> but apparently they are no longer sold].

I assume that these services still work for people who have the older,
wired routers that used to be sold? So if you could buy one of these
older routers (from eBay, an electronics recycler, etc.), and then find
someone with enough technical savvy to set it up for you, then there
would be no risk of the wireless reactivating itself.

Marc

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The modem in question you were discussing eairler (Technicolor 582n) has a button marked ECO which can turn the wireless on and off without having to go into the settings.

A Quote from the manufacture

"eco
Technicolor offers its customers environmentally friendly products. In addition to carefully selected plastics and packaging to minimize the ecological footprint, the TG582n benefits from a unique combination of hardware and software features that reduce power consumption substantially. For instance, a button allows the user to disable/enable the wireless access point when its function is not required."

Most modems nowadays you can also reduce the power level of the wireless to bring it down to 20% so rather than blast your neighbours you can reduce the range and keep it within the house. I do this to decrease the power levels within the house. So rather than full blown fried it's set to 20% fried.

Thomas

Hi Thomas

Many thanks for this. So just so I am 100% clear, this hardware button would enable me to disable the wireless access point and then use the router as a wired router from that point onwards - is that what this means?

Thanks
Steph


________________________________
 From: frequencyhurtz <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2013, 11:13
Subject: [eSens] Re: WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - ebay link for steph.
 

 
The modem in question you were discussing eairler (Technicolor 582n) has a button marked ECO which can turn the wireless on and off without having to go into the settings.

A Quote from the manufacture

"eco
Technicolor offers its customers environmentally friendly products. In addition to carefully selected plastics and packaging to minimize the ecological footprint, the TG582n benefits from a unique combination of hardware and software features that reduce power consumption substantially. For instance, a button allows the user to disable/enable the wireless access point when its function is not required."

Most modems nowadays you can also reduce the power level of the wireless to bring it down to 20% so rather than blast your neighbours you can reduce the range and keep it within the house. I do this to decrease the power levels within the house. So rather than full blown fried it's set to 20% fried.

Thomas


 

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Ada

Just been thinking - when you say 

they intend to phase out the capability of these type of modems in the next few years, then it will then no longer be compatable with the newer tech

does that mean that if I buy this modem you have sent the link for that if they phase out its capability that at some point in the future it won;'t work any more - or does it mean that as the new technology comes on stream they won't manufacture this any more since it wouldn't be compatible with the new technology [or both?]

in which case if I buy this modem - what then do I use in a few years time if I don't want a wireless router - sorry if I sound confused, but I am!

Can i also ask - just out of interest - how you knew that high/unpleasant frequencies were coming out of the wifi router even tho switched to wired mode - did you measure with a meter or did you just feel them when you turned on the router? I'm only asking since I don't use a meter myself - I don't need to for my body tells me automatically when things are wrong LOL!

Thanks

Steph

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 From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 16:48
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - ebay link for steph.
 

 
Steph, this is  the modem I bought, it was very easy to connect and install. it is wifi capable, but turning wifi off, on you broadband home page was all I needed to do to disable it. It worked fine with Tiscali/talk talk, can't comment on other ISP's, but for the price it's worth taking a punt.
Be advised that they intend to phase out the capability of these type of modems in the next few years, then it will then no longer be compatable with the newer tech. ( according to the thomson help-desk IT man)
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=thomson+585+modem&_sacat=0&_from=R40
 
Ada

From: Stephanie Smith [hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" [hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 13:09
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??

 
Hi Ada
 
Thanks for this advice - partic about the horrendous frequencies - I have enough horrendous frequencies to be contending with at the moment witout adding any more into the mix !!!
 
I have been emailing the broadband company to get them to tell me whether the wireless can be permanently disabled [apparently the router is a Technicolour 582n 4 port wireless router if that means anything to anyone out there] and they say it can - although they wouldn't be alive to issues like frequencies etc the way we would.
 
Until recently they were supplying wired routers as part of their package (they still have the set up guides on their website) and I have emailed them to ask whether they could supply me with one of these wired routers but getting them to answer that question in any shape or form has so far proved impossible!
 
Hope you are doing ok
 
Steph

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To: "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com" mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 12:52
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??

 

stefanie, I had this problem a few months back, I went on ebay and bought all the old wired modems I can find. They retail for about a pound. What ever you do don't get the new wirless modem, because even if you turn off the wifi, it still gives off horendous frequencies in the wired mode,Which I personally found to be worse than the wifi itself..
 
Goodluck.
 
Ada

From: Marc Martin mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com>
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2013, 15:49
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - CAN IT BE CONVERTED INTO WIRED??

 
On January 6, Stephanie Smith mailto:reader41%40ymail.com> wrote:
> I am currently without an internet connection and all of the
> broadband contracts which are on offer only include wireless routers
> [I have enquired about the possibility of being given a wired router
> but apparently they are no longer sold].

I assume that these services still work for people who have the older,
wired routers that used to be sold? So if you could buy one of these
older routers (from eBay, an electronics recycler, etc.), and then find
someone with enough technical savvy to set it up for you, then there
would be no risk of the wireless reactivating itself.

Marc

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On January 10, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Can i also ask - just out of interest - how you knew that high/unpleasant frequencies
> were coming out of the wifi router even tho switched to wired mode - did you measure
> with a meter or did you just feel them when you turned on the router?

It doesn't surprise me that a particular modem may be intolerable even
with the wi-fi switched off.  I've owned several pieces of electronics that
were intolerable that didn't have any wireless capability at all (mostly
Blu-ray players or media players).  In such cases, I have to assume that
there is something about the power supply or the processor chips that
is putting out intolerable frequencies.  And in one case with a certain
Blu-ray player, I didn't own any EMF meter (or radio) that indicated
anything out of the ordinary.

Marc

Steph, sorry am at work so missed your other message, but in answer to your questions. 1. The modem with the wifi off, gave off  an acute energy that was so strong that I  actually developed a physical pain in my side, it was intolerable. 2. with regards to modem capability, the guy at tech support hinted that in the coming years, the internet delivery system might be such that modems might be obsolete, I don't know if he was referring to may be electricity supply delivery,but either way the modem I suggested will probably eb good for the forseeable future, I can't see any major changes happening in the next 5 years, but then you never know.
 
Ada/betty

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2013, 17:36
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - ebay link for steph.

 
On January 10, Stephanie Smith mailto:reader41%40ymail.com> wrote:
> Can i also ask - just out of interest - how you knew that high/unpleasant frequencies
> were coming out of the wifi router even tho switched to wired mode - did you measure
> with a meter or did you just feel them when you turned on the router?

It doesn't surprise me that a particular modem may be intolerable even
with the wi-fi switched off. I've owned several pieces of electronics that
were intolerable that didn't have any wireless capability at all (mostly
Blu-ray players or media players). In such cases, I have to assume that
there is something about the power supply or the processor chips that
is putting out intolerable frequencies. And in one case with a certain
Blu-ray player, I didn't own any EMF meter (or radio) that indicated
anything out of the ordinary.

Marc



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Yes Steph. It will turn off the wireless and become a wired router.
The only possible  down side to this is if you turn off the power to the modem and then turn it back on it may default to being back on again, and so you have to press the button again. Just something to be aware of.

Thomas
--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith  wrote:

Thanks Ada - I'm still dithering ...oh the perils of being ES where you can't just go into a shop, say "I'll have that one" and be done with it.
Steph


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 From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013, 9:37
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - ebay link for steph.
 

 
Steph, sorry am at work so missed your other message, but in answer to your questions. 1. The modem with the wifi off, gave off  an acute energy that was so strong that I  actually developed a physical pain in my side, it was intolerable. 2. with regards to modem capability, the guy at tech support hinted that in the coming years, the internet delivery system might be such that modems might be obsolete, I don't know if he was referring to may be electricity supply delivery,but either way the modem I suggested will probably eb good for the forseeable future, I can't see any major changes happening in the next 5 years, but then you never know.
 
Ada/betty

From: Marc Martin [hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2013, 17:36
Subject: Re: [eSens] WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - ebay link for steph.

 
On January 10, Stephanie Smith mailto:reader41%40ymail.com> wrote:
> Can i also ask - just out of interest - how you knew that high/unpleasant frequencies
> were coming out of the wifi router even tho switched to wired mode - did you measure
> with a meter or did you just feel them when you turned on the router?

It doesn't surprise me that a particular modem may be intolerable even
with the wi-fi switched off. I've owned several pieces of electronics that
were intolerable that didn't have any wireless capability at all (mostly
Blu-ray players or media players). In such cases, I have to assume that
there is something about the power supply or the processor chips that
is putting out intolerable frequencies. And in one case with a certain
Blu-ray player, I didn't own any EMF meter (or radio) that indicated
anything out of the ordinary.

Marc

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Hi Thomas 

Thanks for patiently answering what must have seemed like an idiot question from me but I just wanted to be sure I had understood correctly - thanks too for the tip re turning off power to the modem - this is important for me since I switch off everything and unplug when not in use - espec the computer and peripherals so I wouldn't have thought about it defaulting back to "wireless on" without your info so thanks a million for that advice

Steph


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 From: frequencyhurtz <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013, 12:04
Subject: [eSens] Re: WIRELESS BROADBAND ROUTER - ebay link for steph.
 

 
Yes Steph. It will turn off the wireless and become a wired router.
The only possible  down side to this is if you turn off the power to the modem and then turn it back on it may default to being back on again, and so you have to press the button again. Just something to be aware of.

Thomas
--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith  wrote:

 

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