Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website

Dear Readers,

I have created a new website, Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity
<http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info> . I'm actually free from
electrical sensitivity after nearly dying from it, and my website has
been created as a result of my experience with overcoming the illness.
My hope is that others will learn from my experience and free themselves
from electrical sensitivity also.

Thank you,
Gilligan Joy



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Glad to hear you success story. I have ordered some of the remedies you
have mentioned and look forward to trying them.
Thanks for the website info.

Andrew

On Dec 22, 2006, at 10:07 PM, gilligan_joy wrote:

> I have created a new website, Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity
> <http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info> . I'm actually free from
> electrical sensitivity after nearly dying from it

Welcome to the group, Gilligan!

I haven't read through your entire website yet, but your story
does sound similar to mine. The names of the supplements and
devices are different, but the improvements are similar. Maybe
I'll even try out a few things you've mentioned that I haven't
tried...

On your EMF devices list, I can say that the Earthcalm
items were too strong for me, although I suppose given a year I
probably could have adjusted to them. Also, the Personal
Rejuvenizer pendants were something that I had limited
tolerance to. And the Q-Link pendant did nothing for me.
(haven't tried the others you mention)

Some of the good ones for me were from Quantum Products,
Springlife Polarizers, Electromagnetic Pollution Rectifiers,
and the RA*D*AR card. Also, the Earthcalm pendants certainly
worked for as long as I could stand it! Also, the
prototype "Coherent Space" products seem to work pretty well
(http://www.coherentspace.info/products.html).

Marc

Hi Marc,

Thanks for your feedback. I took the Q-Link pendant off the list.
Thanks for mentioning the other devices: I hadn't heard about most of
them.

Your reaction to the Earthcalm devices is a good indication that you
need a lot of healing. I had the same kind of reaction when I first
started using them; to avoid overstressing my body I simply limited my
use of them at first, and was gradually able to increase the time I
could use them.

EMF protection is only part of the solution. To really make progress
in my healing I had to detox my body and take nutrients that were very
specific to the nervous system.

Cheers,
Gilligan

It takes a very long time for reaching the first page.
Clicking on the other pages only give blanks.
*Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage*

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
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From: "gilligan_joy" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 09:44
Subject: [eSens] Re: Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
>
> It takes a very long time for reaching the first page.
> Clicking on the other pages only give blanks.
> *Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage*
>

Try upgrading to Opera.

William

skrzn wrote:
> --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
>> It takes a very long time for reaching the first page.
>> Clicking on the other pages only give blanks.
>> *Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage*
>
> Try upgrading to Opera.

Actually, my copy of IE 6.0 works just fine with this
page. Firefox does as well.

Marc

Hi Charles,

Thanks for the feedback. If this becomes a consistent problem, I may
have to change website hosting companies. But I'll wait a while before
I'm sure I need to do that.

Thanks,
Gilligan Joy

Great site Gilligan. There is wisdom and insight
in your words, especially your thoughts about nervous
system burn out from fears and anxiety. Even the
strongest among us can get caught in a viscous cycle
until at last we snap. EMF exposure and neuro-toxins only
add fuel to the fire. It seems there are quite a few
software engineers among the ES, including myself.

Eli

> Thanks for your feedback. I took the Q-Link pendant off the list.

Did you have good results from the Q-Link? If so, you should probably
leave it on the list.

> Your reaction to the Earthcalm devices is a good indication that you
> need a lot of healing.

Actually, the main reason that I gave up on the Earthcalm devices
is that they made my cats urinate all over the carpet, and I
couldn't stand the smell of that! So I had to find devices
which both I and the cats were happy with (ones that weren't
as strong and had a smaller radius of effectiveness)

> EMF protection is only part of the solution. To really make progress
> in my healing I had to detox my body and take nutrients that were very
> specific to the nervous system.

Yes, I certainly also have benefited from a combination of avoidance,
detox, nutrition, and devices. However, there are some "nerve" supplements
that you've listed on your website which I've never tried --- Vacha Rasayana,
Skullcap, and Tissue Salts. Would you say that any of these were critical
to your recovery? Also, with the lecithin, did you use just any old brand,
or did you find one that worked better than the others? (I am rather
wary of lecithin supplements, as none of them appear to be organic,
and many are based on genetically modified soy -- eating organic
eggs seems to be the safest way to get lecithin in your diet)

Also, on the devices, did the MegaChi pendant or BocArcus Energy
field enhancers give any significant EMF protection, or were
these simply good for your health in general?

Thanks,

Marc

> Did you have good results from the Q-Link? If so, you should probably
> leave it on the list.

Oh, P.S. -- your website mentions that you tried several subtle
energy devices which you believed to be "toxic". I'd be interested
in knowing the names of the devices which you had a bad reaction to
(and for that matter, the names of the devices to which you had
no reaction to)

Thanks!

Marc

Thank you, Eli. Not everyone will be as receptive to my website as you
are, unfortunately. The problem with the website is that it is not
based upon rigorous scientific research. Parts of the website, like
the page on EMF protection devices, will be a real turn-off for some
people because of this.

The website is based upon my experience and some good common sense,
for the most part. If a website like mine was available a few years
ago, I would have been spared a lot of suffering; what seems to me
like common sense now was a mystery to me when I was extremely ill
from electrical sensitivity.

I am surprised that nobody else has created a website with information
like mine has, but that may be because the causes of and cures for
electrical sensitivity really is a mystery to most people with the
illness and the health professionals who have ES sufferers as patients.

I am "going out on a limb" with my website because of the
"unscientific" claims that I make (there as yet are none or few people
who have freed themselves from ES by following a program similar to
the one I present), but my answer to that is: "try it and see." We
humans are just learning about electrical sensitivity, and I present
my website as a useful starting point for finding a cure for the
illness. I do believe I have discovered some basic truths about ES,
and the next step is for some brilliant scientists to apply my ideas
in a rigorously scientific way to determine if there is empirical
truth to my claims.

However, my website is for people with electrical sensitivity, not
scientists. It would be plain stupid to wait for scientific proof of
the causes and cures for ES if people can benefit right now from what
I have learned. I think that many people with ES will agree that the
healing program I present is common sense and is worth trying. There
is little to lose by trying, and we will all learn from each other's
experience. There is going to be a Success Stories page on my website
for this purpose.

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your feedback. I took the Q-Link pendant off the list.
>
> Did you have good results from the Q-Link? If so, you should probably
> leave it on the list.
>

No, the Q-link didn't do much for me either. It's effects are quite
subtle.

> > Your reaction to the Earthcalm devices is a good indication that you
> > need a lot of healing.
>
> Actually, the main reason that I gave up on the Earthcalm devices
> is that they made my cats urinate all over the carpet, and I
> couldn't stand the smell of that! So I had to find devices
> which both I and the cats were happy with (ones that weren't
> as strong and had a smaller radius of effectiveness)
>

You can get EarthCalm pendants that won't effect your cats adversely.

> > EMF protection is only part of the solution. To really make progress
> > in my healing I had to detox my body and take nutrients that were very
> > specific to the nervous system.
>
> Yes, I certainly also have benefited from a combination of avoidance,
> detox, nutrition, and devices. However, there are some "nerve"
supplements
> that you've listed on your website which I've never tried --- Vacha
Rasayana,
> Skullcap, and Tissue Salts. Would you say that any of these were
critical
> to your recovery? Also, with the lecithin, did you use just any old
brand,
> or did you find one that worked better than the others? (I am rather
> wary of lecithin supplements, as none of them appear to be organic,
> and many are based on genetically modified soy -- eating organic
> eggs seems to be the safest way to get lecithin in your diet)
>

The nutritional supplements were absolutely critical to my recovery.
The skullcap, Vacha Rasaysna, tissue salts, and lecithin were all
extremely healing.

I wouldn't worry too much about the source of lecithin, as the
relative toxicity of any lecithin supplements, in my experience, was
very small in comparison to the gross toxicity of my body. If you are
worried about the toxicity of lecithin supplements, just get the best
you can find and use triphala to take care of the toxins.

Triphala is a very effective detoxifier, and it is relatively
inexpensive. I ordered 5 pounds of organic triphala from Banyan
Botanicals for about $100, but you won't need much at your stage of
healing! A tiny bit goes a long way, and that is true for the nerve
nutrients also.

> Also, on the devices, did the MegaChi pendant or BocArus Energy
> field enhancers give any significant EMF protection, or were
> these simply good for your health in general?
>

MegaChi and BocArus devices do provide significant EMF protection, but
they are relatively gentle in comparison with the EarthCalm devices.
The BocArus devices are very inexpensive, and that is why they are on
the list. The BocArus pendant is designed to be used with other
e.f.e's for complete protection. I suggest that you get an EarthCalm
pendant and focus on healing the nervous system with supplements and
detoxifying the body with triphala. Please let me know what works for you.

I wear two MegaChi pendants and a Personal Rejuvenizer. I don't wear
an EarthCalm pendant any more because I no longer need it, but it was
instrumental at the beginning of my recovery.

Hope that helps,
Gilligan

Hmmm. I already thought about this, because I briefly considered
putting that information on my website. However, I decided against
doing so because I'm not interested in making any enemies. I'd rather
just tell people what devices worked for me and seem to have a good
track record.

But really, EMF protection is only a small part of the program I
present on my website, and it is not the most important. For this
reason, it is listed last on my "things to do" list.

The most important parts of the program, and the real reason for my
recovery, are avoidance, the nutrients for the nervous system and
detoxification. When the body is healthy, it is much more resistant to
electropollution.

Gilligan

Thanks for producing the website, Joy. I hope it will be a great help to
many.
 
Thank you, Eli. Not everyone will be as receptive to my website as you
are, unfortunately. The problem with the website is that it is not
based upon rigorous scientific research. Parts of the website, like
the page on EMF protection devices, will be a real turn-off for some
people because of this.

However, true scientific research is almost always based on collating
experimental observations and searching for an explanation. So a case
history like yours is valid input and good science. Even more so if you are
able to add other case histories as you suggest. There are very few
scientific fields where the theory alone is able to predict results -
physics, maths and computer science predominantly. In others, including
biology, medical science, materials and many aspects of engineering, the
theory has always developed from the experimental observations, not vice
versa.  
 
I very much like the way in which you are completely honest about your
background and put careful caveats on what you are saying. This makes it
far more credible and helpful. Also your avoidance of "politicisation" is
good, this stops people thinking "oh it's just a pressure group" which
happens with at least one other ES website.
 
The only major extra point I would make is that good diet, EMF avoidance and
detox may not be enough for a significant proportion of people. Why has
their immune system run down in the first place? For my wife Sue, she ate a
superb diet, had detoxed and yet things kept getting worse. Not till
specialised tests had been done did we find that the underlying factors were
specific (partly hereditary) and that key liver chemicals were missing and
needed to be specifically restored to make things better - and because of
leaky gut problems, oral supplements could not achieve this, only injections
or intravenous infusions. One day I will get round to writing up Sue's case
history in full as I keep seeming to repeat bits of it in various forms in
so many places!
 
Best wishes, Ian

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
gilligan_joy
Sent: 23 December 2006 19:31
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website



Thank you, Eli. Not everyone will be as receptive to my website as you
are, unfortunately. The problem with the website is that it is not
based upon rigorous scientific research. Parts of the website, like
the page on EMF protection devices, will be a real turn-off for some
people because of this.

The website is based upon my experience and some good common sense,
for the most part. If a website like mine was available a few years
ago, I would have been spared a lot of suffering; what seems to me
like common sense now was a mystery to me when I was extremely ill
from electrical sensitivity.

I am surprised that nobody else has created a website with information
like mine has, but that may be because the causes of and cures for
electrical sensitivity really is a mystery to most people with the
illness and the health professionals who have ES sufferers as patients.

I am "going out on a limb" with my website because of the
"unscientific" claims that I make (there as yet are none or few people
who have freed themselves from ES by following a program similar to
the one I present), but my answer to that is: "try it and see." We
humans are just learning about electrical sensitivity, and I present
my website as a useful starting point for finding a cure for the
illness. I do believe I have discovered some basic truths about ES,
and the next step is for some brilliant scientists to apply my ideas
in a rigorously scientific way to determine if there is empirical
truth to my claims.

However, my website is for people with electrical sensitivity, not
scientists. It would be plain stupid to wait for scientific proof of
the causes and cures for ES if people can benefit right now from what
I have learned. I think that many people with ES will agree that the
healing program I present is common sense and is worth trying. There
is little to lose by trying, and we will all learn from each other's
experience. There is going to be a Success Stories page on my website
for this purpose.



 


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OOps, sorry, misread your email address and transposed your surname and
Christian name! Apologies!
Ian

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From: Ian Kemp [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 24 December 2006 13:07
To: '[hidden email]'
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website


Thanks for producing the website, Joy. I hope it will be a great help to
many.
 
Thank you, Eli. Not everyone will be as receptive to my website as you
are, unfortunately. The problem with the website is that it is not
based upon rigorous scientific research. Parts of the website, like
the page on EMF protection devices, will be a real turn-off for some
people because of this.

However, true scientific research is almost always based on collating
experimental observations and searching for an explanation. So a case
history like yours is valid input and good science. Even more so if you are
able to add other case histories as you suggest. There are very few
scientific fields where the theory alone is able to predict results -
physics, maths and computer science predominantly. In others, including
biology, medical science, materials and many aspects of engineering, the
theory has always developed from the experimental observations, not vice
versa.  
 
I very much like the way in which you are completely honest about your
background and put careful caveats on what you are saying. This makes it
far more credible and helpful. Also your avoidance of "politicisation" is
good, this stops people thinking "oh it's just a pressure group" which
happens with at least one other ES website.
 
The only major extra point I would make is that good diet, EMF avoidance and
detox may not be enough for a significant proportion of people. Why has
their immune system run down in the first place? For my wife Sue, she ate a
superb diet, had detoxed and yet things kept getting worse. Not till
specialised tests had been done did we find that the underlying factors were
specific (partly hereditary) and that key liver chemicals were missing and
needed to be specifically restored to make things better - and because of
leaky gut problems, oral supplements could not achieve this, only injections
or intravenous infusions. One day I will get round to writing up Sue's case
history in full as I keep seeming to repeat bits of it in various forms in
so many places!
 
Best wishes, Ian

_____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
gilligan_joy
Sent: 23 December 2006 19:31
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website



Thank you, Eli. Not everyone will be as receptive to my website as you
are, unfortunately. The problem with the website is that it is not
based upon rigorous scientific research. Parts of the website, like
the page on EMF protection devices, will be a real turn-off for some
people because of this.

The website is based upon my experience and some good common sense,
for the most part. If a website like mine was available a few years
ago, I would have been spared a lot of suffering; what seems to me
like common sense now was a mystery to me when I was extremely ill
from electrical sensitivity.

I am surprised that nobody else has created a website with information
like mine has, but that may be because the causes of and cures for
electrical sensitivity really is a mystery to most people with the
illness and the health professionals who have ES sufferers as patients.

I am "going out on a limb" with my website because of the
"unscientific" claims that I make (there as yet are none or few people
who have freed themselves from ES by following a program similar to
the one I present), but my answer to that is: "try it and see." We
humans are just learning about electrical sensitivity, and I present
my website as a useful starting point for finding a cure for the
illness. I do believe I have discovered some basic truths about ES,
and the next step is for some brilliant scientists to apply my ideas
in a rigorously scientific way to determine if there is empirical
truth to my claims.

However, my website is for people with electrical sensitivity, not
scientists. It would be plain stupid to wait for scientific proof of
the causes and cures for ES if people can benefit right now from what
I have learned. I think that many people with ES will agree that the
healing program I present is common sense and is worth trying. There
is little to lose by trying, and we will all learn from each other's
experience. There is going to be a Success Stories page on my website
for this purpose.



 


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Thanks for your feedback, Ian.

I know very well that the healing program I present will not be
sufficient for many people to free themselves from the illness, but it
is an essential foundation, and many people should experience some
improvement by following it.

When you get your wife's case history together, please let me know and
I will post it on my website. Has she made progress? I will post it on
my site regardless. Instead of calling the new section "Success
Stories", perhaps a better name would be "Case Histories."

> I wouldn't worry too much about the source of lecithin, as the
> relative toxicity of any lecithin supplements, in my experience, was
> very small in comparison to the gross toxicity of my body.

I see from an Internet search that one can now purchase organic
lecithin, whereas I could not find any sources the last time I looked.

I will certainly take a look at some of those nerve supplements
that you mentioned, because I've never heard of them!

By the way, I am pretty much "symptom free" these days -- even with
quite a high EMF exposure in my workplace -- but I am not claiming
to be "cured" by any means... to me, "cured" would mean that I
wouldn't need to worry at all about avoidance, diet, supplements,
or protection devices.

Marc

> By the way, I am pretty much "symptom free" these days -- even with
> quite a high EMF exposure in my workplace -- but I am not claiming
> to be "cured" by any means... to me, "cured" would mean that I
> wouldn't need to worry at all about avoidance, diet, supplements,
> or protection devices.

EMF pollution is so bad everywhere in the world now that precautions
are necessary not only for people with ES, but everyone else too.
Robert Becker in his book The Body Electric stated that man-made
levels of EMF are something like 100 million times greater than the
natural background radiation, if I remember correctly.

Please send me your case history and I will post it on my website. Let
me know exactly what you did to improve your condition. I agree that
"symptom free" is not cure, but in my case I consider myself cured
because I no longer get sick from radar, computers or fluorescent
lights. I don't believe EMF protection by itself would enable me to be
symptom free; EMF protection devices were never effective enough to
protect me from radar. My office at work is no longer in a shielded
room, and I am symptom free.

BTW, this is an extremely helpful newsgroup. Thank you for starting
it. It will probably be the first link I post in the Links section of
my website, when I get around to creating it.

Gilligan

> Please send me your case history and I will post it on my website.

Back when I started this group, I posted this sort of information.
But here is an updated version, which you can use on your website
(edit as you see fit):

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Case History -- Marc Martin (December 2006)

I've been a heavy user of computers since 1985, both at work
(where I'm an aerospace engineer and programmer) and at home
(where I run multiple websites and discussion groups).

In 2000, I got some sort of chronic "flu" which refused to go away.
The doctors kept giving me more and more antibiotics, and at some
point it became obvious that this was doing more harm than good, as
I started getting environmental, chemical, and food sensitivities.
I also became less and less tolerant of my workplace, and was
exhausted by the end of each workday. Eventually I had to go on
disability from work.

After finally figuring out that exposure to computers and florescent
lights were causing my exhaustion, I initially tried all of the
conventional EMF solutions. I bought a glass EMF shield for my monitor.
I used an EMF meter to minimize my exposure. I experimented with
a variety of EMF shielding materials. I bought an LCD monitor. None
of these helped enough to make much of a difference.

Meanwhile, my overall health was terrible -- I was diagnosed with
chronic fatigue syndrome. My immune system was obviously not working,
as I caught every illness going around. I needed tons of sleep. I
eventually got fed up with conventional medicine and switched to
alternative medicine. I also started cleaning up my diet, switching
from junk foods and microwaved foods to more organic, raw fruits
and vegetables. I became a vegetarian.

A naturopath tested me for high levels of mercury in my system
(in the past, I had a mouthful of mercury fillings and ate a can of
tuna every day). I purchased several books on mercury poisoning, and
one of them listed a symptom of being a hypersensitivity to electricity.
This book said that these symptoms would eventually go away if I had
all of my metal dental work removed and underwent mercury detoxification.

So I had all of my remaining mercury fillings replaced. Amazingly, a lot
of my health complaints disappeared immediately, but the electrical
sensitivity remained. At that point, my tolerance for sitting in
front of my 15" LCD monitor was about 5 minutes, it was painful to
watch TV from 10 feet away and also using a regular corded phone.

So, the next step was mercury detox. I found that I had bad reactions
to most chelators, but started taking the "NDF" chelator in small
amounts followed an hour later by the antioxidant "Microhydrin". Also,
around about the same time, I saw a doctor who recommended that I try
some EMF protection devices from "Quantum Products".

So I tried a Quantum power strip. On day one, I had a huge surge of
energy! On subsequent days, I became fatigued, and recognized these
symptoms as being the same detoxification symptoms I got when my fillings
were removed. But my tolerance was definitely improved. With a few
power strips and the Quantum Byte software, I finally went back to
work -- halftime.

The next few years I took a lot of supplements for detoxification,
rebuilding various organs which were impacted (adrenals, thyroid, etc.),
and experimenting with many EMF protection devices. My health continued
to improve, and by 2003 I was working fulltime and required
a normal amount of sleep.

As it stands now (in 2006), I still practice avoidance where practical,
I still eat a lot of healthy foods, still take supplements, and still
use EMF protection devices. I am, for the most part, symptom-free
and living a normal life. I still have ES, but it's not nearly as
bad as it once was, and it no longer gets in the way.

So, after years of trial & error, here are the most important things
which have helped my ES so far:

* AVOIDANCE: I react more severely to LCD monitors than CRT monitors,
so I've kept using CRT monitors. My monitors are a foot or two
further away than "normal", and I have less reaction if I run
them at a lower resolution and refresh rate. I don't use compact
florescent lighting in my home, and have unscrewed some florescent bulbs
above my desk at work. I don't use wireless phones or Internet in
my home. I have a cellphone, but rarely use it.

* FOOD: I've found that eating small quantities of food frequently
throughout the day helps keep my symptoms down. Not just any
food, but healthy food that I buy at a health food store. Foods
helpful for reducing my ES symptoms include oatmeal, quinoa, bananas,
dates, kelp, prunes, eggs, carrots, and Odwalla "Superfood" bars.

* SUPPLEMENTS: I never had much luck with synthetic vitamin and
mineral pills, but there are still some supplements which I've
found helpful for ES. An MLM product called "Seasilver" helps
increase my tolerance for EMF. Also, an antioxidant called "Mega-H"
(formerly "Microhydrin"), a probiotic called "Primal Defense",
an antioxidant called "Amrit", a fatty acid supplement called
"Evening Primrose Oil", and a mercury chelator called "NDF"

* EMF PROTECTION DEVICES: I never had much luck with shielding
materials, and in many cases they are impractical or just plain
ugly. However, I've had good results from a few EMF protection
devices. Unfortunately, I've only had good luck with about one
in every 10 devices I've tried. My favorite devices are
from Quantum Products and Springlife Polarity. These days I use
the Quantum power strip, the Quantum Byte software, the
Quantum Companion, and the Springlife OM pendant. I use
one or a combination of these at work, home, and elsewhere.

* SKIN LOTION: For the burning sensation I get on my face
after spending hours sitting in front of a computer, I've found
skin lotion to be quite helpful. I use either "Shikai Borage
Dry Skin Therapy" or "Burt's Bees Carrot Nutritive Body Lotion".
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