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Marc Martin
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> Case History -- Marc Martin (December 2006)
>
> * SKIN LOTION: For the burning sensation I get on my face
> after spending hours sitting in front of a computer, I've found
> skin lotion to be quite helpful. I use either "Shikai Borage
> Dry Skin Therapy" or "Burt's Bees Carrot Nutritive Body Lotion".

How about adding one more bullet:


* REMOVAL OF METAL FROM THE BODY: I have found that reducing
the amount of metal near/inside the body helps reduce ES
symptoms. This includes things like taking keys out of your
pocket, replacing metal-framed eyeglasses with plastic frames
(or contact lenses), replacement of all metal dental work, and
heavy metal chelation therapy.

Marc

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Re: Case History

Marc Martin
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> Please send me the links for the Springlife and Quantum EMF protection
> devices. I want to put them in your case history.

Here is a link for Quantum Products:

http://www.quantumproducts.com

As for Springlife Polarity, they don't have a website, but
here is a website for someone who sells them:

http://choosecra.com/htmlpages/homepage/prodinfo/springlife.html

Marc

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Re: Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website

Ian Kemp
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Thanks Gilligan, will send it when I have got something ready.
 
The interesting trend that I have noticed so far is that of people I have
met or contacted with the severe form of ES, at least 75% (maybe more) have
some sort of severe immune system dysfunction causing ME, multiple chemical
sensitivity or similar problems. These are often helped by special diets
and supplements, but often something more is required. The remaining small
proportion appear to have had exposure to very high and prolonged EMF
fields, e.g. continued high use of mobile phones and electronic equipment
over many years (maybe early types of mobile were more damaging).
 
Ian

_____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
gilligan_joy
Sent: 24 December 2006 16:47
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website



Thanks for your feedback, Ian.

I know very well that the healing program I present will not be
sufficient for many people to free themselves from the illness, but it
is an essential foundation, and many people should experience some
improvement by following it.

When you get your wife's case history together, please let me know and
I will post it on my website. Has she made progress? I will post it on
my site regardless. Instead of calling the new section "Success
Stories", perhaps a better name would be "Case Histories."



 


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Re: Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website

Katrina
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Hi Ian,

You wrote:
>>>>The interesting trend that I have noticed so far is that of people I have
met or contacted with the severe form of ES, at least 75% (maybe more) have
some sort of severe immune system dysfunction causing ME, multiple chemical
sensitivity or similar problems. These are often helped by special diets
and supplements, but often something more is required.<<<<

{Speaking as a person with long term ME, and then MCS and then Esens},

While it is true that ME/CFS at least does involve significant immune dysfunction, it is largely a Neurological disease, with a great deal of brain dysfunction.

It is also increasingly considered a disease of Mitochondria malfunction. For instance, relating to both of these, an MRS brain scan shows that I haveLactate spikes in 6 of 36 grids of my brain. (These are found very high infull on Mito disease).
My Neuro-psych testing shows several cognitive deficits, such as in Executive functioning, that indicate "Right Hempishere Impairment".

I also have Movement Disorders that indicate problem with the Basal Ganglia.

Other brain findings in many ME/CFS patients are:
low blood flow
Lesions, white spots
Apparent inflammation
Various metabolic and neurotransmitter imbalances

Typical also is sensory overload, meaning to lights, sound, movement, smells...sometimes even touch or conversation/sound of others' voices, or acute sensitivity to "energy" of others.

One patient's recent autopsy showed inflammation of the dorsal root ganglia, which is said the be "the gateway to all sensation to the brain."

There is also being found left ventricle ( Diastolic Dysfunction) of the Heart. This may be a result of the Mitochondria malfunction. Technically speaking, this DD/Cardiomyopathy is a form of slow heart failure.
Which in itself, effects many functions, including the brain.

Researchers are approaching the disease of ME from many different angles. Many are relevant, since it is such a multi-system disease!

The majority of longest term ME/CFS researchers still believe it to have viral origins...particularly those targeting the CNS/Brain, and some, the Heart, resulting in multi-system malfunctions or injury.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Regarding MCS...there is some very fascinating work by Martin Pall...also focusing on the brain.
I wonder if someone who understands the EMF effect on the brain might be interested in his work. just a guess.

Some of those with MCS/CI consider themselves *injured* by chemicals as opposed to just sensitive or "allergic" to them.

{There may be different mechanisms in MCS/CI without ME/CFS and that that appears with it ?} Something like that may be true with Esens also?...don't know.

Anyway, just some food for thought. Especially about CNS and sensory damage. It seems to me this might relate to Esens as much as just Immune Dysfunction.
Take care,

Katrina


--- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:

>
> Thanks Gilligan, will send it when I have got something ready.
>  
> The interesting trend that I have noticed so far is that of people I have
> met or contacted with the severe form of ES, at least 75% (maybe more) have
> some sort of severe immune system dysfunction causing ME, multiple chemical
> sensitivity or similar problems. These are often helped by special diets
> and supplements, but often something more is required. The remaining small
> proportion appear to have had exposure to very high and prolonged EMF
> fields, e.g. continued high use of mobile phones and electronic equipment
> over many years (maybe early types of mobile were more damaging).
>  
> Ian
>
> _____  
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> gilligan_joy
> Sent: 24 December 2006 16:47
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website
>
>
>
> Thanks for your feedback, Ian.
>
> I know very well that the healing program I present will not be
> sufficient for many people to free themselves from the illness, but it
> is an essential foundation, and many people should experience some
> improvement by following it.
>
> When you get your wife's case history together, please let me know and
> I will post it on my website. Has she made progress? I will post it on
> my site regardless. Instead of calling the new section "Success
> Stories", perhaps a better name would be "Case Histories."
>
>
>
>  
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: Neurological efects, mitochondria etc

Ian Kemp
Thanks Katrina, very interesting. Agree about the neurological effects -
the point about the immune system aspects is that they may well be a root
cause of the neurological effects in many cases.

You mentioned Martin Pall - we had heard rumours that he had published a
book which Sue would be interested to see (since she can't look at computer
monitors) but can't find any reference to it -do you (or anyone else) know
about it?

Best wishes, Ian

_____

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
kattemayo
Sent: 29 December 2006 10:12
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website




Hi Ian,

You wrote:
>>>>The interesting trend that I have noticed so far is that of people I
have
met or contacted with the severe form of ES, at least 75% (maybe more) have
some sort of severe immune system dysfunction causing ME, multiple chemical
sensitivity or similar problems. These are often helped by special diets
and supplements, but often something more is required.<<<<

{Speaking as a person with long term ME, and then MCS and then Esens},

While it is true that ME/CFS at least does involve significant immune
dysfunction, it is largely a Neurological disease, with a great deal of
brain dysfunction.

It is also increasingly considered a disease of Mitochondria malfunction.
For instance, relating to both of these, an MRS brain scan shows that I have
Lactate spikes in 6 of 36 grids of my brain. (These are found very high in
full on Mito disease).
My Neuro-psych testing shows several cognitive deficits, such as in
Executive functioning, that indicate "Right Hempishere Impairment".

I also have Movement Disorders that indicate problem with the Basal Ganglia.

Other brain findings in many ME/CFS patients are:
low blood flow
Lesions, white spots
Apparent inflammation
Various metabolic and neurotransmitter imbalances

Typical also is sensory overload, meaning to lights, sound, movement,
smells...sometimes even touch or conversation/sound of others' voices, or
acute sensitivity to "energy" of others.

One patient's recent autopsy showed inflammation of the dorsal root ganglia,
which is said the be "the gateway to all sensation to the brain."

There is also being found left ventricle ( Diastolic Dysfunction) of the
Heart. This may be a result of the Mitochondria malfunction. Technically
speaking, this DD/Cardiomyopathy is a form of slow heart failure.
Which in itself, effects many functions, including the brain.

Researchers are approaching the disease of ME from many different angles.
Many are relevant, since it is such a multi-system disease!

The majority of longest term ME/CFS researchers still believe it to have
viral origins...particularly those targeting the CNS/Brain, and some, the
Heart, resulting in multi-system malfunctions or injury.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Regarding MCS...there is some very fascinating work by Martin Pall...also
focusing on the brain.
I wonder if someone who understands the EMF effect on the brain might be
interested in his work. just a guess.

Some of those with MCS/CI consider themselves *injured* by chemicals as
opposed to just sensitive or "allergic" to them.

{There may be different mechanisms in MCS/CI without ME/CFS and that that
appears with it ?} Something like that may be true with Esens also?...don't
know.

Anyway, just some food for thought. Especially about CNS and sensory damage.
It seems to me this might relate to Esens as much as just Immune
Dysfunction.
Take care,

Katrina

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Ian Kemp"
<ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gilligan, will send it when I have got something ready.
>
> The interesting trend that I have noticed so far is that of people I have
> met or contacted with the severe form of ES, at least 75% (maybe more)
have
> some sort of severe immune system dysfunction causing ME, multiple
chemical

> sensitivity or similar problems. These are often helped by special diets
> and supplements, but often something more is required. The remaining small
> proportion appear to have had exposure to very high and prolonged EMF
> fields, e.g. continued high use of mobile phones and electronic equipment
> over many years (maybe early types of mobile were more damaging).
>
> Ian
>
> _____
>
> From: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
Of

> gilligan_joy
> Sent: 24 December 2006 16:47
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website
>
>
>
> Thanks for your feedback, Ian.
>
> I know very well that the healing program I present will not be
> sufficient for many people to free themselves from the illness, but it
> is an essential foundation, and many people should experience some
> improvement by following it.
>
> When you get your wife's case history together, please let me know and
> I will post it on my website. Has she made progress? I will post it on
> my site regardless. Instead of calling the new section "Success
> Stories", perhaps a better name would be "Case Histories."
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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Re: Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity - a new website

richsurf77
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--- In [hidden email], "gilligan_joy" <gilliganjoy@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Gilligan, will send it when I have got something ready.
> >  
> > The interesting trend that I have noticed so far is that of
people I
> have
> > met or contacted with the severe form of ES, at least 75% (maybe
> more) have
> > some sort of severe immune system dysfunction causing ME, multiple
> chemical
> > sensitivity or similar problems. These are often helped by
special
> diets
> > and supplements, but often something more is required. The
remaining
> small
> > proportion appear to have had exposure to very high and prolonged
EMF
> > fields, e.g. continued high use of mobile phones and electronic
> equipment
> > over many years (maybe early types of mobile were more damaging).
> >  
> > Ian
>
> Yes I have the same impression about immune dysfunction but I
haven't
> put that information on my website yet because I want to be sure
about
> it. In my case I had no immune system dysfunction, but I do think my
> ES was severe because I almost died from it. There must be a way to
> heal the immune dysfunction, such as prolonged and intensive
practice
> of affirmations and very specific prayer, or the very powerful
Quigong
> practices mentioned on my website. The mind can heal anything if it
is
> strong enough and the opposing forces (e.g. electropollution) are
weak
> enough. But I believe the foundation (avoidance, nerve nutrients,
> detoxification, good diet) also needs to be in place, before
> significant gains can be made in healing the immune system.
>
> When the body starts attacking itself even worse diseases than ES
can
> manifest such as cancer or multiple sclerosis.
>
> The key to healing is to get the life force flowing. A strong life
> force can heal absolutely anything. I once read an inspiring story
> about a young woman who discovered she had terminal cancer. Instead
of
> bemoaning her fate, she decided to celebrate life, and give love to
> everything and everyone. She was a real inspiration to all of the
> people around her. Well, guess what? She is now free from cancer.
Love
> is the greatest healer of all.
>
> Gilligan
>


Hi Gilligan, I have just looked at your site and read several pages
and I was thinking, when you said you were working with disabled
people and you became extremely ill and said that they drained your
energy, are you sure this is what caused it? I am thinking maybe they
lived nearer electricity wires or their homes had poor wiring or they
had devices on that had strong fields. Or another possibility is that
you had recently been exposed to more fields at home and this built
up the wealening of you immune system, because i have noticed that I
often feel worse after I have used my computer than when i am
actually on it. I am open to your theory as possible but I am not
totally sure it is possible and is the actual cause.

from Richard (UK)

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gilligan_joy
Hi Richard,

> Hi Gilligan, I have just looked at your site and read several pages
> and I was thinking, when you said you were working with disabled
> people and you became extremely ill and said that they drained your
> energy, are you sure this is what caused it? I am thinking maybe they
> lived nearer electricity wires or their homes had poor wiring or they
> had devices on that had strong fields. Or another possibility is that
> you had recently been exposed to more fields at home and this built
> up the wealening of you immune system, because i have noticed that I
> often feel worse after I have used my computer than when i am
> actually on it. I am open to your theory as possible but I am not
> totally sure it is possible and is the actual cause.
>
> From Richard (UK)
>

No, I am sure that I am correct about being drained of my energy by
needy people. This is called "psychic vampirism", and it is usually
not intentional. I was volunteering at a day program for at least a
dozen developmentally disabled people for only four hours at a time.
There was nothing unusual electromagnetically about the building the
day program was located in or the surrounding area. I was very
suceptible to extreme fatigue from having my energy drained by others
because my life force was extremely weak at the time.

See http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/513

Thanks for your feedback,
Gilligan

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