I moved into a hut in the woods about a week ago. There is solar panel and a 770 amp 12 volt dc battery. (6X2.12v ) I have disconnected everything, even took the battery out of the digital thermometer.
after 4 days i felt like a 90 year old, and i am 29. exhausted, stomach pain which dont go away, heavy headache, pain that moves around the body.heavy breathing, couching, pain in heart area, which was so bad at one moment i thought i was going to collaps. Thank God I know some healing techniques. this is the worst symptomes i have ever experienced. There is something about this energy that makes it different than anything i have experienced. it even makes my breath bad. i have disconnected the 6 , 2.12 v batteries. did not help. i was thinking about emptying/draining them, but this does not make sense to me that this low voltage should cause me so much trouble. there are not any antennas nearby and there are kilometer to the next house. So i am thinking are they emitting some other type of radiation that are bad for me. nuclear or alpha particle radiation from batteries like this guy is talking about in this short vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am4d3evKySA the batteries are called SPGL 770 manufactured by tudor sweden / exide technology. -Haakon |
By means of my 240 Biomarkers measuring system, I could prove that an electrosensitive woman was sensitive to and reacted with her body to a rechargeable LED torchlight, which was not even *on*.
Just the presence of the torch was enough for her to have adverse health effects. She was living in the woods, but the torch had to be stored at least 10 meters away. |
this sounds crazy. i can feel my led headlight beam inside my head hitting my glands. but it has to be on.
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Sure, that is normal.
For an electrosensitive person that is. Although many do not want to acknowledge this, but many electrosensitives do react much heavier to very tiny ridiculous amounts of elektrosmog, than on heavy amounts of f.i. mobile phone masts. It all has to do with the *longitudinal waves*, emitted form elektrosmog. Try placing a plastic film between your LED headbeam and your head. The plastic should reflect the longitudinal waves. |
Otherwise try this glasfibre fabric by Knauf, used for reinforcing the sides of plasterboards.
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i dont use the led headlight anymore. i have one for hand usage :)
charles, you talk about the immune system, I reckon you mean the electromagnetic field or the aura immune system? As far as i know people who are emf sensitive are not more sick, or vulnerable to illness than people who are not emf sensitive? I am almost never sick with illness, except from what is caused by emf. I have talked with so called experts in norway today and we have discussed this, if this has to do with toxins in the body or a natural way of being/sensing the world. you see i think i have been emf sensitiv all my life, as i said in my first post i am 29 years, and when i was 13 years internet and dect phones came into peoples homes. This was the first time i noticed that i was sensitive. and i have seen kids even younger on youtube who are emf sensitive. does this add up with your immune system model ? born with emf sensitivity... the main question i was going to ask was do you think to drain the batteries would help ? |
With immune system I mean the health state.
It is possible that one has a defiency of for instance certain Schuessler salts starting at birth. Vaccinations and medical drugs may play a part in this. Poisons (from agriculture for instance) and amalgam tooth fillings may play a part. Also, the electrification in the house may have its influence. There are all kinds of influence, and a tiny drop of elektrosmog lets overflow the *bucket*. In my opinion, all electrosensitive persons are in a way *sick*. They may have too m uch of one stuff, and too little of other stuff. All this without knowing it. But when *cleaning* the body, and bringing everything in balance again, the sensitivity for elektrosmog goes down. That is a fact. By measuring a number of electrosensitive persons I found, that most of them have a chronical Calcium shortage. And besides to that they also have a chronical Calcium loss. Algaecal Plus is a good nutritient, which also has Vitamin D3 and K2, who see that the Calcium gets in the right places in the body. Etc. etc. Remember, that everything you eat, drink and inhale contains heavy metals, which may get stored in your body, next to the already stored there. Etc. etc. Many persons think that while they eat biological, don't smoke, don't drink, do sport alot, will help them. Yes, that is all right, but no guarantee for a healthy body. That is not enough. |
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Charles, You mentioned using plastic film to block longitudinal waves in a recent post. Would painter's plastic drop cloth 1 ml thick work? I am sleeping next to 13 smartmeters; have room completely shielded with zero RF measuring on meter but still feel like there is something affecting me, so am hoping this might help. Ellen
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Hi Ellen,
Do you have access to a device for measuring magnetic fields? I use a Trifield 100XE meter and one electric meter maxes out its read capacity at a 100 milligauss. Unlike RF it's hard to stop magnetic fields. LessEMF sells a product called GIRON which might help, but you're most likely dealing with a huge field from so many meters. From what I've read most ES people have trouble living in a house that measures over 0.3 mG. Sent from my hard wired computer. Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 08:01:10 -0700 From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: [ES] Re: Plastic film to block longitudinal waves Charles, You mentioned using plastic film to block longitudinal waves in a recent post. Would painter's plastic drop cloth 1 ml thick work? I am sleeping next to 13 smartmeters; have room completely shielded with zero RF measuring on meter but still feel like there is something affecting me, so am hoping this might help. Ellen If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://es-forum.com/New-place-HEAVY-symptomes-tp4027136p4027150.html |
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oh, ellen, please MOVE.
you must be in an apt complex, hmm? ask them if they have a vacancy far, far from those meters. love, patricia On May 4, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Ellen [via ES] wrote: Charles, You mentioned using plastic film to block longitudinal waves in a recent post. Would painter's plastic drop cloth 1 ml thick work? I am sleeping next to 13 smartmeters; have room completely shielded with zero RF measuring on meter but still feel like there is something affecting me, so am hoping this might help. Ellen |
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Fog Top, Thanks for the reply. I did check that. The environmental consultant measured the magnetic field in the bedroom as approximately ".2", which he says is, while not perfect, not unusual. Also, the RF shielding is grounded. Ellen
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I need to update the information on this thread.
I still live there. Or try to live there. My symptomes was so bad because when i moved in I also started on chlorella for detoxing heavy metals. I took too much in the start phase and thats why I had this heavy reactions. To much toxins went into the blood, and I started to feel very weak. thats also why my breath started to smell so bad because my body was trying to get rid off the toxins quick. Interesting how my back also started hurting to different places. Probably the chlorella cleaning up my spine. I have lowered my chlorella dose now and i feel much better. I still have reactions to the batteries,but do not feel like a 90 year old ;) At the moment I am lowering the amp on the battereies and see how i react different. Then I will try to shield them. I want an energetic freezone. I live in the middle of the woods and i have reactions. People around me are starting to wonder. HEHE! ![]() I just spoke with a electric siv engineer and he said that there is not any emf field from these batteries. that i just had to convince myself that it is not the batteries. Ellen: What i have learned from people using emf meters is that our nervous system/energetic bodies are waaay more sensitiv to emf field than these emf meters can measure. Like i could sense the power line 4-500 meters away while people working with measuring fields said to me that i was safe when i was 150 meters away. It is personal which frequencies you are sensitiv to. there was a period where i was very sensitiv to 3g. This has improved. With other words. Listen to your body and what you are sensing. Wish you all the best Ellen. |
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On May 13, "Hawk [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I need to update the information on this thread. > I still live there. Or try to live there. > My symptomes was so bad because when i moved in I also started on chlorella > for detoxing heavy metals. I took too much in the start phase and thats why > I had this heavy reactions Yes, I recall taking lots of chorella tablets 10+ years ago, and that made my ES much worse than if I was doing nothing at all. One contributing factor here is that some brands of chlorella are polluted with heavy metals to start with, so you end up making any heavy metal poisoning worse! Another factor is that some say that chlorella only loosely binds with heavy metals, and that bind may not be strong enough to actually get it out of your body. If anyone is looking for a relatively "clean" brand of chlorella, I know that this one is good: http://primechlorella.com/ Marc |
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Hawk, if you believe an electric civ engineer, who does not have the faintest idea about elektrosmog and electrosensitivity more than me with 15 years experience in this matters, I feel sorry for you.
Batteries and accu's are harmful to certain electrosensitives. I have proved that. On my website i have given tips how to *neutralize* these fields of longitudinal waves. All of my information has been proven to work in practice. |
don't feel sorry for me. because i don't believe him. I just wrote it to so we got the civ ing perspective into the box.
how about some links charles.. :) i figured out from your website that is was some sort of glass fiber textile. ? |
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ok. super stressed here, sorry i did not see what you wrote, or i just forgot: plastic film and glass fiber.
I have placed some glass fiber material around the batteries. This did not work. The batteries are heavy(6x58kg) and i am not able to lift them to get any shielding under the batteries. they are standing on the ground(soil). I don't know if there is anything under them that will could reflect the longtudinal waves. They are kind of built into the floor of the cabin, which makes it hard to get a 100% complete shielding. I will now try and put plastic film around them. Polymeric plastic film,something like the type that is used on 135 mm film for analog cameras . don't know where to get this but i will look around. The batteries themselves are made of some plastic glass that i can look through and see the battery cells . Since the batteries are 770 amp do i need a heavier shielding ? with this i mean more layers .. |
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Tried with triple layer plastic film. did not work. but i was not able to shield one of the sides and under. There was this high frequency sound in this cabin and i think it was this noise that was bothering me. this is probably the longtudinal wave charles was talking about. Sensitive to sound to ye.? I have learned about a new type of energy. I capitulated today. could not take it anymore. This was going to be my resting and healing place for the summer. Hope you all are doing as good as you possible can with this condition. PEACE! to you whoever you are :) |
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Sorry to hear that didn't work.
Yes, sound sensitivity is yet another problem some people face. I know that I cannot stand the ultrasonic cleaning methods now used by dentists. And I don't think it's an EMF issue -- I think it's that ultrasonic sound. Also, some people are sensitive to ultrasound (examination for pregnancy, etc.) Marc |
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I hope you can find some relief, Hawk. Just heard from an ES person who has moved to the middle of nowhere far away from power lines and cell towers and yet a high frequency meter shows a signal is hitting there and produces ES effects. Satellites?
I have 24/7 buzzing in my ears plus hear a low frequency hum in one ear. I talk with people in "Hum" groups and most believe it's the smart grid causing it. My "noises" began after the installation of power line communication and digital meters were installed in my neighborhood a few years ago and of course a "smart" grid infrastructure was built to turn the whole town into a microwave radiating health destroying mess. What is the new type of energy you've learned about? Best wishes to you! Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 10:48:44 -0700 From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: [ES] Re: New place, HEAVY symptomes updating. Tried with triple layer plastic film. did not work. but i was not able to shield one of the sides and under. There was this high frequency sound in this cabin and i think it was this noise that was bothering me. this is probably the longtudinal wave charles was talking about. Sensitive to sound to ye.? I have learned about a new type of energy. I capitulated today. could not take it anymore. This was going to be my resting and healing place for the summer. Hope you all are doing as good as you possible can with this condition. PEACE! to you whoever you are :) If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
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I don't have this problem at the dentist. Recently been there 5 times. Was alot to fix ;) 7 years since last time.
I hear what you say about ultrasonic sound. This raises some question, Sensitiv to sound as well.. or should I say vulnerable to another frequency band thats out of range of the 5 senses. If it is like some people say, that this is because of toxins and unbalance in the body. that this makes our electromagnetic field(or immune system) weak and thats why our bodies are affected by these frequencies.. Why are some people struggling with this for so long ? Where are the success stories ? how do we heal ourselves?? Marc. I've been thinking about the chlorella reaction. I used supernature chlorella, it supposed to be a good product. I know for a fact that people who have been struggling with heavy metals toxicity(because of amalgam) have detoxed the body with chlorella. And i think maybe our immune system gets weakned when these things gets into the circulation. If these chlorella tablets did contain heavy metals maybe i would have a different reaction ? i doubt they contain that much heavy metal that they would make me so weak... A serious brand like this got all to lose by selling bad products. or what you think.. have you tried heavy metal detox again after this time 10 years ago ? fog top.about the new evergies ...I had a hard time accepting that this was the batteries. It was after charles told about the stories and other ES people who are sensitive to batteries, and the longetudinal wave. I heard this pitch noise in the cabin. And i also did get the same feeling as when i am using a Led headlight. feeling of a scalpel cutting through and inside the body. These sensation are hard for me to describe. It is like describing a sound or feeling. To not E sensitive people I say: try to explain how heat feels like. How would you explain it to a person that cannot feel heat.=? you get the picture. there was also this pressure in the cabin. probably caused by the same frequencies.. About satelites, i think everything is possible. and all kinds of projects are going on. but how can one know for sure. The smart grid is a communicating grid which goes from house to house. Yes like you say a microwave grid. it is SICK. I wonder what happens if someone turns all cell tower, antennas, wifi, smart meters on full power. what would happen ? smart meters scare me. I don't have a heavy reaction to the norwegian ones. But this ES thing can be very subtle sometimes. I put my radio next to it and it constantly screams and sends out signal with this laser type sound every 60 second to the neighboors "smart" meter. PEACE |
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