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Marc Martin
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On May 22, "Hawk [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Why are some people struggling with this for so long ? Where are the success
> stories ?  how do we heal ourselves??

I have seen ES success stories over the years, it's just that these are somewhat
rare.  And people who are cured don't generally stick around on the discussion
groups -- they just resume their normal life.

But a lot of people (including me) have founds way to greatly improve their
situations.  So that is the more common positive outcome.

> If these chlorella
> tablets did contain heavy metals maybe i would have a different reaction ?

Yes, there were some brands of chlorella where I was definitely going downhill
fast on them, so it seemed pretty obvious that they were contaminated.  Also,
since chlorella doesn't really have a very strong bond with heavy metals,
I think people who are successful with it have some innate ability left in
their liver, kidneys, etc. to finish the job.  Not everyone is so lucky,
and as such need to take heavy metal binders that don't let go of the metals.

> have you tried heavy metal detox again after this time 10 years ago ?

Yes, I still do some heavy metal detoxing, for two reasons -- I don't think
I ever really finished the first time around, and we are constantly being
exposed to new toxins.  But there are all sorts of things that people can
try taking instead of chlorella.  Over the years I've tried all sorts of things ---
chlorella, cilantro, NDF, HMD, zeolite, bentonite clay, alpha lipoic acid (ALA),
DMSA, DMPS, OSR, PCA-Rx, activated charcoal, etc.  Although many of
these things can make things a lot worse if not used properly
(amount & frequency).

Marc
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Hawk
thanks for reply.
which of all the things you mentioned did you feel have the best effect with detoxing the body?

Amount and frequency ,,,  .thats where i did wrong. I like a quick fix hehe

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Marc Martin
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On May 22, "Hawk [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> thanks for reply.
> which of all the things you mentioned did you feel have the best effect with
> detoxing the body?

I suppose the best thing was to simply get all of my metal fillings removed,
and let my body do the rest...

... BUT, I also think I improved the most over the period of time when I was taking
NDF to "stir up" the mercury, followed by Microhydrin to bind/eliminate what was
leftover in my bloodstream.  Although that this was 10+ years ago, and both NDF
and Microhydrin have changed formulations since then, and I think they used to
be better then that they are now.

Some say OSR has (by far) the strongest bond with mercury, but the problem
is that OSR was shut down by the US government 4 years ago, and has still
yet to return (although it may return next year in Europe).

"Total Zeolite" would also be a good runner up, although again, they have
changed the product since I've taken it, so I don't know if the current product
is better or worse than what I took.

A lot of people seem to like the Andy Cutler "frequent dosing" protocols
using ALA, DMPS, and/or DMSA, although I tried that for years and didn't
see any improvements in my own health.

Marc
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Re: New place, HEAVY symptomes

Patricia
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well, perhaps i should share my success story.

1. avoid, avoid, avoid, as much as possible, all electricity.  
no wifi.  cell phone only occasionally - almost never - just
for traveling and emergencies in car.  i leave it in the car
always.  when someone else is near with a cell phone, i
can feel it and i walk away as fast as possible.

2. i am very picky about the electricity i allow into my space.
i stay far away from most electrical things and i am on my
computer pretty much 24/7... well, at least 16/7.  and i am
careful to maintain a distance from my computer - at least
an arm's length from me to the screen... and all wires and
transformers, further away.  i have measured the field and
it is low as soon as the meter gets a few inches away from
the computer.  

3. i drink LOTS of water.  i have a pitcher of water at my
side all day long.  i use a zero water filter (now) and then
i add trace minerals - concentrace minerals.  i used to live
in an area where the water was not fluoridated and also
had only 25 ppm minerals.  now i live in an area where the
water is not fluoridated but has 350 ppm minerals.  so i
use the zero water filter and it works quite well for me.  

4. i eat mostly raw, lots and lots of greens, dark, leafy greens.  
i eat only organic foods and prepare it all myself, in a very
simple fashion.  i might make a smoothie for breakfast with
frozen banana and strawberries and greens, and i will pick
dandelions for the smoothie.  i will have baby greens for
lunch with maybe an avocado or some beans on it with garlic
and lemon juice and olive oil... delicious.  and dinner is similar.
if i want 'bread', i will make raw vegetable-flax bread.  the
more raw foods, the better.  

5. when i feel anything unpleasant, i will stop immediately
and breathe into the discomfort.  when i am going to sleep
at night and feel anything less than good, i will focus on it
and breathe into it.  when i wake up in the morning, i do not
get up until i have let go of anything that is uncomfortable.  

6. i use a scandinavian balans chair at my desk.  it holds
my spine as if i am standing, not sitting.  

7. i actually turn off the breakers to areas of the house i am
not using.  at night i turn off everything.  i have found that
if i turn off my computer - a mac - put it to sleep, then pull
the plug - when i plug it in, in the morning, it is where it was
at night when i turned it off.  all the same programs are
there, documents are there, etc...  it 'remembers' exactly
where it was when i put it to sleep.  

8. i am very aware of how important my thoughts are to
my health, so i don't allow myself to 'worry' or to dwell on
the past or the future.  i do what i can to center myself and
stay in the present moment.  if i have questions, i ask them.
if i have something to say, i say it - i might ask for 'help'
if i can't think of a way to say it lovingly and help always
comes.  i keep good company.  if i am not comfortable
around someone, i do not spend time with them.  i avoid
as much aggravation as possible.  when i make a mistake -
like spilling a glass of water all over my desk this evening...
i might scold myself for a moment, but then i let go of the
self-blame, guilt, judgment, etc, asap.  

9. i study *a course in miracles* and christian science to
learn more about healing.  

10. i laugh a lot.  i try to take even the most intense things
lightly.  :)  for instance, i call 'the illuminati', 'the ill dark 'n'
naughty'.  

well, that's some of what i do.  everything i do is all about
healing.  ACIM says, "Healing is ALWAYS certain."  

there are several free 'tools' on my website for working
toward healing.  

love, patricia


On May 22, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Hawk [via ES] wrote:

> I don't have this problem at the dentist. Recently been there 5 times. Was alot to fix ;)  7 years since last time.
>
> I hear what you say about ultrasonic sound. This raises some question,
> Sensitiv to sound as well.. or should I say vulnerable to another frequency band thats out of range of the 5 senses.
>
> If it is like some people say, that this is because of toxins and unbalance in the body. that this makes our electromagnetic field(or immune system) weak and thats why our bodies are affected by these frequencies..
> Why are some people struggling with this for so long ? Where are the success stories ?  how do we heal ourselves??
>
> Marc. I've been thinking about the chlorella reaction. I used supernature chlorella, it supposed to be a good product. I know for a fact that people who have been struggling with heavy metals toxicity(because of amalgam) have detoxed the body with chlorella. And i think maybe our immune system gets weakned when these things gets into the circulation. If these chlorella tablets did contain heavy metals maybe i would have a different reaction ? i doubt they contain that much heavy metal that they would make me so weak... A serious brand like this got all to lose by selling bad products. or what you think.. have you tried heavy metal detox again after this time 10 years ago ?
>
>
> fog top.about the new evergies ...I had a hard time accepting that this was the batteries. It was after charles told about the stories and other ES people who are sensitive to batteries, and the longetudinal wave.  I heard this pitch noise in the cabin. And i also did get the same feeling as when i am using a Led headlight. feeling of a scalpel cutting through and inside the body. These sensation are hard for me to describe. It is like describing a sound or feeling. To not E sensitive people I say: try to explain how heat feels like. How would you explain it to a person that cannot feel heat.=? you get the picture.  there was also this pressure in the cabin. probably caused by the same frequencies..
> About satelites, i think everything is possible. and all kinds of projects are going on. but how can one know for sure.
> The smart grid is a communicating grid which goes from house to house. Yes like you say a microwave grid. it is SICK. I wonder what happens if someone turns all cell tower, antennas, wifi, smart meters on full power. what would happen ?
> smart meters scare me. I don't have a heavy reaction to the norwegian ones. But this ES thing can be very subtle sometimes. I put my radio next to it and it constantly screams and sends out signal with this laser type sound every 60 second to the neighboors "smart" meter.
>
> PEACE
>
> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
> http://es-forum.com/New-place-HEAVY-symptomes-tp4027136p4027193.html
> To start a new topic under ES, email [hidden email]
> To unsubscribe from ES, click here.


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Fog Top
Thank you for sharing this with us Patricia.  I've printed it out and am going to refer to it often.  I am a negative-self talker, so becoming clumsy, forgetful, and depressed from the onslaught of bad health effects of a smart meter on my house has caused that negativeness to increase.  I have the type of smart meter that pulses the RF (TWACS power line communication) into the wiring of the house.
 
Do you feel free to share where you get the minerals that you add to your zero water?  Also, would you mind posting your website address again?
 
Best Wishes!



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sent from my hard wired computer.

 

Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 20:46:30 -0700
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [ES] Re: New place, HEAVY symptomes

well, perhaps i should share my success story.

1. avoid, avoid, avoid, as much as possible, all electricity.  
no wifi.  cell phone only occasionally - almost never - just
for traveling and emergencies in car.  i leave it in the car
always.  when someone else is near with a cell phone, i
can feel it and i walk away as fast as possible.

2. i am very picky about the electricity i allow into my space.
i stay far away from most electrical things and i am on my
computer pretty much 24/7... well, at least 16/7.  and i am
careful to maintain a distance from my computer - at least
an arm's length from me to the screen... and all wires and
transformers, further away.  i have measured the field and
it is low as soon as the meter gets a few inches away from
the computer.  

3. i drink LOTS of water.  i have a pitcher of water at my
side all day long.  i use a zero water filter (now) and then
i add trace minerals - concentrace minerals.  i used to live
in an area where the water was not fluoridated and also
had only 25 ppm minerals.  now i live in an area where the
water is not fluoridated but has 350 ppm minerals.  so i
use the zero water filter and it works quite well for me.  

4. i eat mostly raw, lots and lots of greens, dark, leafy greens.  
i eat only organic foods and prepare it all myself, in a very
simple fashion.  i might make a smoothie for breakfast with
frozen banana and strawberries and greens, and i will pick
dandelions for the smoothie.  i will have baby greens for
lunch with maybe an avocado or some beans on it with garlic
and lemon juice and olive oil... delicious.  and dinner is similar.
if i want 'bread', i will make raw vegetable-flax bread.  the
more raw foods, the better.  

5. when i feel anything unpleasant, i will stop immediately
and breathe into the discomfort.  when i am going to sleep
at night and feel anything less than good, i will focus on it
and breathe into it.  when i wake up in the morning, i do not
get up until i have let go of anything that is uncomfortable.  

6. i use a scandinavian balans chair at my desk.  it holds
my spine as if i am standing, not sitting.  

7. i actually turn off the breakers to areas of the house i am
not using.  at night i turn off everything.  i have found that
if i turn off my computer - a mac - put it to sleep, then pull
the plug - when i plug it in, in the morning, it is where it was
at night when i turned it off.  all the same programs are
there, documents are there, etc...  it 'remembers' exactly
where it was when i put it to sleep.  

8. i am very aware of how important my thoughts are to
my health, so i don't allow myself to 'worry' or to dwell on
the past or the future.  i do what i can to center myself and
stay in the present moment.  if i have questions, i ask them.
if i have something to say, i say it - i might ask for 'help'
if i can't think of a way to say it lovingly and help always
comes.  i keep good company.  if i am not comfortable
around someone, i do not spend time with them.  i avoid
as much aggravation as possible.  when i make a mistake -
like spilling a glass of water all over my desk this evening...
i might scold myself for a moment, but then i let go of the
self-blame, guilt, judgment, etc, asap.  

9. i study *a course in miracles* and christian science to
learn more about healing.  

10. i laugh a lot.  i try to take even the most intense things
lightly.  :)  for instance, i call 'the illuminati', 'the ill dark 'n'
naughty'.  

well, that's some of what i do.  everything i do is all about
healing.  ACIM says, "Healing is ALWAYS certain."  

there are several free 'tools' on my website for working
toward healing.  

love, patricia


On May 22, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Hawk [via ES] wrote:

> I don't have this problem at the dentist. Recently been there 5 times. Was alot to fix ;)  7 years since last time.
>
> I hear what you say about ultrasonic sound. This raises some question,
> Sensitiv to sound as well.. or should I say vulnerable to another frequency band thats out of range of the 5 senses.
>
> If it is like some people say, that this is because of toxins and unbalance in the body. that this makes our electromagnetic field(or immune system) weak and thats why our bodies are affected by these frequencies..
> Why are some people struggling with this for so long ? Where are the success stories ?  how do we heal ourselves??
>
> Marc. I've been thinking about the chlorella reaction. I used supernature chlorella, it supposed to be a good product. I know for a fact that people who have been struggling with heavy metals toxicity(because of amalgam) have detoxed the body with chlorella. And i think maybe our immune system gets weakned when these things gets into the circulation. If these chlorella tablets did contain heavy metals maybe i would have a different reaction ? i doubt they contain that much heavy metal that they would make me so weak... A serious brand like this got all to lose by selling bad products. or what you think.. have you tried heavy metal detox again after this time 10 years ago ?
>
>
> fog top.about the new evergies ...I had a hard time accepting that this was the batteries. It was after charles told about the stories and other ES people who are sensitive to batteries, and the longetudinal wave.  I heard this pitch noise in the cabin. And i also did get the same feeling as when i am using a Led headlight. feeling of a scalpel cutting through and inside the body. These sensation are hard for me to describe. It is like describing a sound or feeling. To not E sensitive people I say: try to explain how heat feels like. How would you explain it to a person that cannot feel heat.=? you get the picture.  there was also this pressure in the cabin. probably caused by the same frequencies..
> About satelites, i think everything is possible. and all kinds of projects are going on. but how can one know for sure.
> The smart grid is a communicating grid which goes from house to house. Yes like you say a microwave grid. it is SICK. I wonder what happens if someone turns all cell tower, antennas, wifi, smart meters on full power. what would happen ?
> smart meters scare me. I don't have a heavy reaction to the norwegian ones. But this ES thing can be very subtle sometimes. I put my radio next to it and it constantly screams and sends out signal with this laser type sound every 60 second to the neighboors "smart" meter.
>
> PEACE
>
> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
> http://es-forum.com/New-place-HEAVY-symptomes-tp4027136p4027193.html
> To start a new topic under ES, email [hidden email]
> To unsubscribe from ES, click here.




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Hawk
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Healing is Always certain. thank you! :)

I bought Maria Trebens book about herbs the other day. I have now i started picking and drinking lots of herb tea every day. I've come to the understanding that my increased sensitivity is due to my bodys imbalance.
kidney,liver,small testine mainly. And sure if the organs don't work properly heavy metals and all toxins add up, and i can feel it in my joints.

We are blessed with so much good medicine around us that cleanses the different organs, that we don't need to spend hundreds of dollars on some products we don't even know if is clean, hey, marc :)
we can go and pick and connect with nature in a new way ourselve. I love nature and spend alot of time with it, but connect with plants and the body this way make feel good.

here it is. The english version. http://www.amazon.com/Health-Through-Gods-Pharmacy-Experiences/dp/3850681246

Thank you all for sharing on this forum. really helps me to know that i am not alone.  and helping each other. exactly

have a beautiful lovin day

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Patricia
thanks for the link, hawk. 
the book looks very beautiful.  


let me tell you one of my favorite drinks:  
dandelion root and chicory root combined.  
it tastes very rich and grounding.  
i understand it is good for the liver.  
please be sure to eat whole foods with 
plenty of fiber, to wash the toxins out.  
i eat lots of greens.  no matter what i eat, 
i usually have greens in the mix.  
if nothing else, i make a pesto with garlic 
and whatever green i find, olive oil... and 
put it on "*WHATEVER*".  basil is not the 
only pesto green.  you can use cilantro, 
parsley, and i haven't tried dandelions 
yet, but writing this, i am now inspired to
do so.  :)  

love, patricia 



On May 27, 2014, at 2:05 AM, Hawk [via ES] wrote:

Healing is Always certain. thank you! :)

I bought Maria Trebens book about herbs the other day. I have now i started picking and drinking lots of herb tea every day. I've come to the understanding that my increased sensitivity is due to my bodys imbalance.
kidney,liver,small testine mainly. And sure if the organs don't work properly heavy metals and all toxins add up, and i can feel it in my joints.

We are blessed with so much good medicine around us that cleanses the different organs, that we don't need to spend hundreds of dollars on some products we don't even know if is clean, hey, marc :)
we can go and pick and connect with nature in a new way ourselve. I love nature and spend alot of time with it, but connect with plants and the body this way make feel good.

here it is. The english version. http://www.amazon.com/Health-Through-Gods-Pharmacy-Experiences/dp/3850681246

Thank you all for sharing on this forum. really helps me to know that i am not alone.  and helping each other. exactly

have a beautiful lovin day




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