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Hi all:

Wanted to give you all some background on my condition and solutions.  I apologize for the length. It is hard to edit 10 years down into a couple of paragraphs.

My husband, Nick, and I both suffer from EHS. Most solutions we found and researched ourselves. Nick has a high tech background and I am an administrator.  

For 5 years we lived in a house with faulty wiring.  Chronic exposure to dirty electricity and high magnetic fields was compounded with the introduction of cell phones and all thing wireless we had incorporated into our lives. By 2009, he had progressed to a state of full-blown dementia – sat in a dark room staring at the ceiling for most of the day.  He was irritable, confused, depressed, angry and a real challenge to live with.  Meanwhile, I, too, was beginning to have memory issues, experienced shortness of breath, extreme weight gain, and a host of other physical symptoms.  The medical community both misdiagnosed us and misprescribed.

About this time, a friend introduced me to the concepts of EMFs, hypersensitivity and Gia Wellness products.  If you are unfamiliar with these products, they are a noise field nano-technology developed by the military to protect communications personnel.  Because I'd had no luck with traditional medicine, was desperate and willing to try anything, I put Gia guards on all our electric appliances and electronic devices, all over Nick's room, in my car, and started drinking their i-water.  

Over the next few months, the change in my husband's behavior was profound.  He went from being afraid to leave the house, being confused and unable to identify friends and acquaintances, to going for walks by himself without getting lost, picking bouquets of flowers for me.  He began reading scientific and technical journals again; recognizing and identifying people; and generally becoming a happier person. As for me, my eczema disappeared, I started sleeping nights, could think more clearly, and lost 20 lbs.

After nine months using the Gia products, doing a lot of research about the electromagnetic spectrum and health problems associated with EMFs, my friend and I started a website to help others who might be confused and suffering the way we had been.

As we continued to research and learn, further solutions presented themselves. Nick and I had a competent EMF electrician inspect our home.  The faulty wiring was corrected; ambient electrical fields were reduced; use of Stetzer filters further reduced emissions.  Our immediate environment felt calmer, my bedroom truly became a sleeping sanctuary.  Our health issues improved dramatically.

Then my friend introduced me to the healthful benefits of grounding oneself.  Information and products provided by EarthingInstitute.com about the earth's healing energy have been invaluable.  For the last year I have used one of Earthing's pads while I sleep at night, use a pad under my feet and a strip on my wrist while sitting at my computer, have Earthing pads on the driver's and front passenger's seat of my car.

Today, by reducing my exposure to EMF sources, by using Stetzer filters, Gia  and Earthing products, I am able to use technology safely and live a somewhat normal life.  However, I avoid public places with WiFi.  When I go out, I carry a tri-field meter to avoid high magnetic fields to which I am still sensitive.  

My website continues to evolve as a tool to educate and inform. Gia products are sold on my webpage and I recommend other valid EMF product solutions that have worked for me. I conduct on-site evaluations to help people identify and reduce EMF sources in their homes and offices. Currently I am enrolled in a course with International Institute for BauBiologie & Ecology to better understand and study the different types of environmental radiation and their various effects upon our health.

My focus thus far has not included natural medicines and nutritional remedies. To further understand this complex issue, I am interested in learning more about energy medicines.

I am most grateful to have discovered eSens. I have felt isolated and a member of the "lunatic fringe" for far too long.  Thank you all for your acceptance, your email responses and your advice!

Kindest regards,
Maggi Garloff

On September 26, maggigarloff <[hidden email]> wrote:
> After nine months using the Gia products, doing a lot of research about
> the electromagnetic spectrum and health problems associated with EMFs

Welcome to the group, Maggi!

We've had past reports on Stetzer and Earthing products, but I don't
think we've ever had anyone report on Gia Wellness products.  It looks
like they have quite a few EMF products -- any comment on which ones
you've found to be most helpful for EMF sensitivity?

Thanks,

Marc

Hi Marc:

Yes, there are a lot of products. Hope the following is not more than you wanted to know, but....
The ones I've used and can recommend first hand include:

TerraGia
Cell Guards - for cell phone use.  Since it was my cell phone causing my shortness of breath episodes, attaching a Cell Guard eliminated this symptom.  Cell phone radiation causes agglutination of the red blood cells (clumping); therefore, after a long phone call, oxygen has not gotten to one's extremities.  Medical doctors prescribed asthma inhaler, but asthma was not my problem.  Cell phone use was.

Gia Universal Guards - for electrical appliances and electronic grear; anything with a transformer, that radiates and can be detected by a gaussmeter. I also use them in my car, since the fields there are so huge.

Pendant - 18" radius field that protects and enhances our own biofield.

Home and Car Harmonizers - these have a 60' and 12' radius respectively and do pretty much what a pendant does.  They detect then react to ambient emfs.

Gia iH20 (called i-water) - this kitchen-counter-top unit alters the molecular structure of filtered water to facilitate flow in and out of cell membranes.  For a person with hypersensitivity, cell hydration is often a problem, so this is important. This structured water exists naturally in some spots of the earth's surface, notably Lourdes, France, Baden, Germany, Caucus Mountains in Russia, parts of the Andes.  Development of Gia iH20 unit is one of the good things that came out of the Chernobyl disaster. There are two books written by the inventor, I.Smirnov, MS PhD, one for lay persons, one a scientific text establishing its effectiveness with cancer patients.  (email me if interested in either one)

People can email me if they have questions about some of the nutritional supplements, and other various products I've used.

It is thanks to TerraGia products and the iH20 that my husband are not in an Alzheimer's ward today.

Thanks for your interest.

Maggi



--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

On September 26, maggigarloff <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Marc:
> Yes, there are a lot of products. Hope the following is not more than you wanted to know, but....

Thanks!  That was NOT more than I wanted to know... :-)

So, do you have any insight into how these things work?  Presumably
the cellphone device and the pendant is not putting out random EMF fields
like the harmonizer is?

Also, in my brief searching around, I saw that there may be some commonality
between BIOPRO and Gia Wellness?  Is that correct?  I'll warn you in advance
that on some of these EMF groups, BIOPRO has been labelled by some (rightly or wrongly)
as a scam.  But honestly, I think it was labelled a scam by people who had
no personal experience with the products, which I do not consider to be
a very reliable/useful opinion (it seems that there are people that like
to label things as "scams" without even doing the most basic research).

Thanks,

Marc

On September 26, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> So, do you have any insight into how these things work?  Presumably
> the cellphone device and the pendant is not putting out random EMF fields
> like the harmonizer is?

Okay, answering my own question, the Gia products (and BioPro as well)
seem to have 2 different technologies -- MRET (random frequencies
being superimposed into the existing EMF environment) and ERT
(a subtle energy thing).  The pendants only seem to have ERT,
while the cell/silver/universal chips seem to have both MRET
and ERT.  Not sure about the Harmonizers... seems like the 60 foot
field is ERT alone.

The original Army MRET appears to have been actively powered
by a dedicated power source.  The MRET in these products is
activated by EMF in the environment.

Marc

First, it was pointed out I failed to give my website url so here it is:

www.emfsolutions.info

or, to get to my page re products

http://www.emfsolutions.info/products/buy-products-m

and, to get to EHS sensitivity research project

http://www.emfsolutions.info/about-ehs/ehs-r-study



About the Gia products:

My initial experience with these products did not include any understanding of the complexities of environmental radiation or how the products worked.   And, yes, Gia used to be BioPro.   I don't have any knowledge of the turmoil surrounding the business. I just used the products and was amazed.

It is more recently that I have a better understanding of environmental radiation, and this is important because there are a couple different types that have adverse health effects.  Magnetic fields from regular, old 60Hz house wiring as well as those found in our vehicles; and radiation from wireless devices including cell phones, cordless phones, SmartMeters, TVs etc., to mention two types.

As I understand it, the noise field concept, the MRET of the Gia products, is particularly effective to protect against digital wireless radio waves, or Information Carrying Radio Waves (ICRW). This radio wave is modulated with digitized & compressed information. That does not occur in nature, therefore our bodies cells do not recognized it and go into a stressed state.  Your can read a short article "Cell Phones, WiFi & Health" on my web page. http://www.emfsolutions.info/products/buy-products-m

Dr George Carlo explains the body's response to this type of radiation. He also explains why a noise field is effective:

"One example of a technological innovation which could provide a primary intervention for cell phone users is a noise field - first developed by the U.S. military to protect communications personnel. A noise field is a low energy, random electromagnetic field that travels in parallel with the radio wave. Since the noise field is random, it prevents the radiation from resonating with your cells' ciliary receptors or DNA. By eliminating this effect, it renders the electromagnetic waves relatively harmless."

Further to the topic of grounding and the Earthing products (which I do not sell but you can find at
 Earthing - Official Site
www.earthing.com/).  

Besides the build up of electrical radiation in our environment (predominantly positively charged particles) we are cut off from the healing energies of the earth's surface (free flowing negative electrons) by the insulated shoes we wear, spending more time indoors and in our cars, etc. We suffer on the one hand from a natural radiation deficiency and on the other from an unnatural radiation stress.  The Earthing products help to balance this while I sleep, without my having to spend a couple hours a day in my back yard with my bare feet in the wet grass - though that does feel great during the summer months if I have the time to stop and read a book.

The ERT in the Gia products reinforce our own natural biofields.

To sum up, I find using both the Gia products and the Earthing products together has given me back my life.  At least now I can sit here at my computer and communicate with all of you without having half my mind erased, getting distracted and forgetting what I was doing/saying/writing...
 
Best,
Maggi



--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

> To sum up, I find using both the Gia products and the Earthing products
> together has given me back my life.  

Thanks!  I guess I've never paid any attention to Gia/BioPro
before because you're the first person here who has reported
such a huge benefit from using them.

Note that the Earthing products are also controversial, and
many complain that they make things worse for them.  It
is said that if you use them near a high-EMF source,
then that EMF will travel through you to get to the ground.
Plus, many ground sources are already contaminated with
noise, so putting yourself into direct contact with that
noise can be a bad thing.

Marc

--- In [hidden email], "maggigarloff" <maggigarloff@...> wrote:
> And, yes, Gia used to be BioPro.   I don't have any knowledge of the >turmoil surrounding the business.

I hate to be a spoiler here, but this is incomplete information at best, and an outright lie at worst.  There are some things people should know before purchasing anything from this company. (My experience goes back quite a few years, before I had EHS, and the company was still BioPro.)

First, this company is an MLM (multi-level marketing) and Maggi Garloff is a distributor.  They call themselves "consultants," but their "consultation" is a thinly disguised way to introduce you to their products and "opportunity." Her failure to disclose this fact is to me, in itself, deceptive.  Her website is a standard copy of the website all their "consultants" get.

The company used to be BioPro.  They have been in myriad legal trouble almost since the beginning.  Just google "BioPro scam" or "ray grimm scam artist" and take a look.  A class action lawsuit was filed against them in Indiana in 2010 for violation of federal RICO statutes.  That one may still be pending, I'm not sure.  In an ultimate slippery move to disassociate from the reputation, they changed their name to Gia Wellness which is an umbrella for a bunch of MLMs.  There is no way Maggi Garloff doesn't have "any knowledge of the turmoil surrounding the business."

I was burned by this company and its highly deceptive advertising years ago and did not find any benefit to their over-priced products.  Make your own judgment, but do your due diligence first. --CJ

My experience with the biopro chip for the cellphone, is that
it was hugely helpful, and immediately I could feel the difference on the cellphone.

I still can't stand to use the thing, but I can tolerate it for
a minute or two when emergency arises, such as breaking down on the side of the hwy.

~ Snoshoe


--- In [hidden email], "cjosephj" <cjosephj@...> wrote:

On September 29, cjosephj <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I was burned by this company and its highly deceptive advertising
> years ago and did not find any benefit to their over-priced products.  
> Make your own judgment, but do your due diligence first. --CJ

Well, I've certainly bought things from MLM companies in the
past that have been very helpful, so one cannot say that
products don't work simply because they are an MLM.  Nor
can you say they don't work because that MLM has questionable
business practices.  The products are the products, and
how well they work is pretty much independent of the legal
problems of the company.

Also, we have seen many times here that a product can work
wonders for one person, while another person notices no
benefit.  So just because someone notices nothing
does not necessarily make it a bad product for everyone.

I'm quite aware that BioPro has a bad reputation, but if
it works well for some people, then we need to be aware
that it may work well for other people here.

Marc

I would like to thank CJ for this heads up.  How else can we make informed decisions without information???  This doesn't mean I'll stay away from this company, nor that I will deal with them. That is up to me but it never hurts to be informed.
thanks CJ
 
Aimee

--- On Sat, 9/29/12, cjosephj <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: cjosephj <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: New Member Bio--Gia/BioPro
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, September 29, 2012, 7:57 AM




--- In [hidden email], "maggigarloff" <maggigarloff@...> wrote:
> And, yes, Gia used to be BioPro.   I don't have any knowledge of the >turmoil surrounding the business.

I hate to be a spoiler here, but this is incomplete information at best, and an outright lie at worst.  There are some things people should know before purchasing anything from this company. (My experience goes back quite a few years, before I had EHS, and the company was still BioPro.)

First, this company is an MLM (multi-level marketing) and Maggi Garloff is a distributor.  They call themselves "consultants," but their "consultation" is a thinly disguised way to introduce you to their products and "opportunity." Her failure to disclose this fact is to me, in itself, deceptive.  Her website is a standard copy of the website all their "consultants" get.

The company used to be BioPro.  They have been in myriad legal trouble almost since the beginning.  Just google "BioPro scam" or "ray grimm scam artist" and take a look.  A class action lawsuit was filed against them in Indiana in 2010 for violation of federal RICO statutes.  That one may still be pending, I'm not sure.  In an ultimate slippery move to disassociate from the reputation, they changed their name to Gia Wellness which is an umbrella for a bunch of MLMs.  There is no way Maggi Garloff doesn't have "any knowledge of the turmoil surrounding the business."

I was burned by this company and its highly deceptive advertising years ago and did not find any benefit to their over-priced products.  Make your own judgment, but do your due diligence first. --CJ



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My thoughts here: First, this is the same thing I told Maggie, regardingcell phne stickers.  I think we're going to end up with some who believe they were helped, and some like me, who did actually use the Bio pro cell phone, (years ago)  who werenot helped. I believe the stickers masked the symptoms, which can be dangerous, becausepeople believe they are safe, in the absence of physical visual signs of radiation symptoms.Or in the case where the dots are not connected, and the signs are mis interpreted; such as:thyroid distress, inflammation, arthritus, fibromyalgia, diabetes, low blood sugar, ect ect. The absence of such visual signs does not mean something is not occuring, at the cellular level! Stop and really think about this: Mainstream articles often point out the "absence of a connection of brain tumors" in the cell phone studies.The direct connection or lack of, does not in any way, assure that cell phne radiation is SAFE.Therefore, because someone using a cell phone sticker product, doesn't immediately showsigns of radiation toxicity, again, this does not mean that radiation is SAFE. Those who know the information well, of course, realize that brain tumors are merely one side effect of micro wave radiation. There are tons of others, most related to Inflammation. I will state this again:If the product sticker works to reduce the radiation, the issue may end up being:the cell phone has to work harder to bring in the signal, thereby actually increasingthe amount of radiation emitted. Similiar to using a cell phone with a bad cell towerconnection.I also believe many of the cell phone stickers end up merely masking the symptoms.Much like prescription drugs do. Those sticker products that claim to "transmute" the emfs????It seems to me: "Wouldn't we have alot less people with Es,  instead of MORE peoplebecoming ES?" And if these products really work as claimed, why wouldn't they also work on smart meters? As radiation is radiation, why wouldn't gov't just use this technology to transmute nuclear fall out,instead of evacuating populations? When you study the symptoms from nuclear fall out, ionizing radiation, and compare these symptoms toso called: non ionizing radiation, you start to see that the symptoms are very similiar, if not identical.The difference in my opinion, is: Dose, Duration, and Proximity.  They evacuate to get people as far away from the "hot zones" as possible. This means proximity, nearnessto the source of radiation. As for the use of non ionizing and ioniziing? What is the burning caused from, if not tissues being heated? Lizzie
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From: [hidden email]
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:17:42 +0000
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      My experience with the biopro chip for the cellphone, is that

it was hugely helpful, and immediately I could feel the difference on the cellphone.



I still can't stand to use the thing, but I can tolerate it for

a minute or two when emergency arises, such as breaking down on the side of the hwy.



~ Snoshoe



--- In [hidden email], "cjosephj" <cjosephj@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> --- In [hidden email], "maggigarloff" <maggigarloff@> wrote:

> > And, yes, Gia used to be BioPro.   I don't have any knowledge of the >turmoil surrounding the business.

>

> I hate to be a spoiler here, but this is incomplete information at best, and an outright lie at worst.  There are some things people should know before purchasing anything from this company. (My experience goes back quite a few years, before I had EHS, and the company was still BioPro.)

>

> First, this company is an MLM (multi-level marketing) and Maggi Garloff is a distributor.  They call themselves "consultants," but their "consultation" is a thinly disguised way to introduce you to their products and "opportunity." Her failure to disclose this fact is to me, in itself, deceptive.  Her website is a standard copy of the website all their "consultants" get.

>

> The company used to be BioPro.  They have been in myriad legal trouble almost since the beginning.  Just google "BioPro scam" or "ray grimm scam artist" and take a look.  A class action lawsuit was filed against them in Indiana in 2010 for violation of federal RICO statutes.  That one may still be pending, I'm not sure.  In an ultimate slippery move to disassociate from the reputation, they changed their name to Gia Wellness which is an umbrella for a bunch of MLMs.  There is no way Maggi Garloff doesn't have "any knowledge of the turmoil surrounding the business."

>

> I was burned by this company and its highly deceptive advertising years ago and did not find any benefit to their over-priced products.  Make your own judgment, but do your due diligence first. --CJ

>





   
     

   
   






       

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You both made good points. However, that being said, those who sell a product should disclose that fact UP front.It is true many co's are MLM.  And yes, it is true that some products work for some, and not for others.In the supplement area, I find this has more to do with two factors:the body's metabolism or ability to absorb nutrients, and the actual qualityof the nutrient.As far as cell phone stickers, see previous post. In a nutshell, I am more then weary about these particular products. Lizzie
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      On September 29, cjosephj <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I was burned by this company and its highly deceptive advertising

> years ago and did not find any benefit to their over-priced products.  

> Make your own judgment, but do your due diligence first. --CJ



Well, I've certainly bought things from MLM companies in the

past that have been very helpful, so one cannot say that

products don't work simply because they are an MLM.  Nor

can you say they don't work because that MLM has questionable

business practices.  The products are the products, and

how well they work is pretty much independent of the legal

problems of the company.



Also, we have seen many times here that a product can work

wonders for one person, while another person notices no

benefit.  So just because someone notices nothing

does not necessarily make it a bad product for everyone.



I'm quite aware that BioPro has a bad reputation, but if

it works well for some people, then we need to be aware

that it may work well for other people here.



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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On September 29, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:
> You both made good points. However, that being said, those who sell
> a product should disclose that fact UP front.

Uh, Maggi DID disclose up-front that she sold these products.
So I see no issue here.  And it sounds like the only reason
that she does sell these products is that they worked so
well for her husband and herself.

Marc

 I apologize. I stand corrected. Maggie DOES state that she sells the Gia productsin the below posting, on 9/26 or 9/27. "I am also a consultant for
Gia Wellness products. They are the only products I sell (on my personal web
page), as they allow me to use technology safely to carry on a business."   People can use their own judgements on which products to use.I just don't believe that current technologies such as cell phone stickersare safe. Period.  Blessings, Lizzie
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      On September 29, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

> You both made good points. However, that being said, those who sell

> a product should disclose that fact UP front.



Uh, Maggi DID disclose up-front that she sold these products.

So I see no issue here.  And it sounds like the only reason

that she does sell these products is that they worked so

well for her husband and herself.



Marc





   
     

   
   






       

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Much as I would like such products to actually work, none of them so
far has ever. So, for prevention, it's back to avoidance, shielding
and grounding, besides strengthening your own system.

For recovery, dripping Magnascent (at least 5 drops depending on
severity) on the skin where my thymus is helps me to recover from
high RF exposure fast. As for the nerves around the head, I find
rubbing copious amount of Chinese medicated oil for wound healing
very effective.

kb

Marc Martin wrote thus at 10:53 PM 29-09-12:

I used the earthing bed sheet & earthing pad for 4 months, I didn't feel any benefits, my first biontology readings were very bad & still shown massive electron spin inversion, the magnetic therapy group did not recommend it as the reasons of what  Marc have said, I stopped using the earthing products.

alice

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

I have not used any cellphone sticker, I have only tried some zero point energy pendants; Dr Klinghardt said cell phones stickers, emf neutralizing devices do not give protection to emf & insisted his patients to have proper shielding means eg bed canopy etc. Some viruses & bacteria would continue to multiply unless proper shielding to emf; I guess the proper way to check if these devices work or not is to have some kind of measuring devices to see whether the body improve such as biontology or other bio resonance systems etc.

I myself trust Dr Klinghardt's suggestions as he has yrs of extensive research on emf effects to health & working with many patients whose health problems are emf related

alice  

--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

Kb,

 

I agree, I find reducing
exposures of wireless, dirty electricity, toxic foods, ect,

and shielding, nurturing,
and strenthening

the immune system by far,
the best ways to help with ES.

By immune system I
specifically mean both the adrenal glands and the

thyroid.

 

Interesting you should say
that. I also find applying drops of Iodine on my

neck/thyroid area helps
tremendously. As radiation studies from nuclear fall out-

(think Chernolby) have shown
increased thyroid cancers, and wireless radiation

IS radiation, I believe
radiation leaches or zaps Iodine from the body and especially

the thyroid area.

 

Did you know that: the
breasts are the largest storehouse in the body for Iodine,

when the thyroid runs low on
Iodine, it "borrows Iodine" from the breast. Usually

the Iodine is not
replaced...which is why I believe breast cancer is so prevalent

today.

 

I also find Magnesium
Chloride Oil, soaking my feet in it, also helps with both

radiation exposures and to
help balance the body's electrical system. Also I walk

barefoot most every day, in
a nearby park. This is an old fashioned park with hardly

any street lights. I bring a
spray bottle of water with added sea salt to it, and spray

my feet.

 

I read that the body that is
not grounded will be much more susceptible to other

emfs.

 

Blessings,

Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:35:02 +0800
Subject: What works and what doesn't for me -- Re: [eSens] Re: New  Member Bio--Gia/BioPro
















 



 


   
     
     
      Much as I would like such products to actually work, none of them so

far has ever. So, for prevention, it's back to avoidance, shielding

and grounding, besides strengthening your own system.



For recovery, dripping Magnascent (at least 5 drops depending on

severity) on the skin where my thymus is helps me to recover from

high RF exposure fast. As for the nerves around the head, I find

rubbing copious amount of Chinese medicated oil for wound healing

very effective.



kb



Marc Martin wrote thus at 10:53 PM 29-09-12:

>On September 29, cjosephj <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > I was burned by this company and its highly deceptive advertising

> > years ago and did not find any benefit to their over-priced products.

> > Make your own judgment, but do your due diligence first. --CJ

>

>Well, I've certainly bought things from MLM companies in the

>past that have been very helpful, so one cannot say that

>products don't work simply because they are an MLM.  Nor

>can you say they don't work because that MLM has questionable

>business practices.  The products are the products, and

>how well they work is pretty much independent of the legal

>problems of the company.

>

>Also, we have seen many times here that a product can work

>wonders for one person, while another person notices no

>benefit.  So just because someone notices nothing

>does not necessarily make it a bad product for everyone.

>

>I'm quite aware that BioPro has a bad reputation, but if

>it works well for some people, then we need to be aware

>that it may work well for other people here.

>

>Marc





   
     

   
   






       

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Speaking of Klinghardt: This is an excellent video he gives.  
 Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt - Smart Meters & EMR: The Health Crisis Of Our Time
http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/dr-dietrich-klinghardt-smart-meters-emr-the-health-crisis-of-our-time/
Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
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      I have not used any cellphone sticker, I have only tried some zero point energy pendants; Dr Klinghardt said cell phones stickers, emf neutralizing devices do not give protection to emf & insisted his patients to have proper shielding means eg bed canopy etc. Some viruses & bacteria would continue to multiply unless proper shielding to emf; I guess the proper way to check if these devices work or not is to have some kind of measuring devices to see whether the body improve such as biontology or other bio resonance systems etc.



I myself trust Dr Klinghardt's suggestions as he has yrs of extensive research on emf effects to health & working with many patients whose health problems are emf related



alice  



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> My thoughts here: First, this is the same thing I told Maggie, regardingcell phne stickers.  I think we're going to end up with some who believe they were helped, and some like me, who did actually use the Bio pro cell phone, (years ago)  who werenot helped. I believe the stickers masked the symptoms, which can be dangerous, becausepeople believe they are safe, in the absence of physical visual signs of radiation symptoms.Or in the case where the dots are not connected, and the signs are mis interpreted; such as:thyroid distress, inflammation, arthritus, fibromyalgia, diabetes, low blood sugar, ect ect. The absence of such visual signs does not mean something is not occuring, at the cellular level! Stop and really think about this: Mainstream articles often point out the "absence of a connection of brain tumors" in the cell phone studies.The direct connection or lack of, does not in any way, assure that cell phne radiation is SAFE.Therefore, because someone using a cell phone sticker product, doesn't immediately showsigns of radiation toxicity, again, this does not mean that radiation is SAFE. Those who know the information well, of course, realize that brain tumors are merely one side effect of micro wave radiation. There are tons of others, most related to Inflammation. I will state this again:If the product sticker works to reduce the radiation, the issue may end up being:the cell phone has to work harder to bring in the signal, thereby actually increasingthe amount of radiation emitted. Similiar to using a cell phone with a bad cell towerconnection.I also believe many of the cell phone stickers end up merely masking the symptoms.Much like prescription drugs do. Those sticker products that claim to "transmute" the emfs????It seems to me: "Wouldn't we have alot less people with Es,  instead of MORE peoplebecoming ES?" And if these products really work as claimed, why wouldn't they also work on smart meters? As radiation is radiation, why wouldn't gov't just use this technology to transmute nuclear fall out,instead of evacuating populations? When you study the symptoms from nuclear fall out, ionizing radiation, and compare these symptoms toso called: non ionizing radiation, you start to see that the symptoms are very similiar, if not identical.The difference in my opinion, is: Dose, Duration, and Proximity.  They evacuate to get people as far away from the "hot zones" as possible. This means proximity, nearnessto the source of radiation. As for the use of non ionizing and ioniziing? What is the burning caused from, if not tissues being heated? Lizzie

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> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:17:42 +0000

> Subject: [eSens] Re: New Member Bio--Gia/BioPro

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> > > And, yes, Gia used to be BioPro.   I don't have any knowledge of the >turmoil surrounding the business.

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> > I hate to be a spoiler here, but this is incomplete information at best, and an outright lie at worst.  There are some things people should know before purchasing anything from this company. (My experience goes back quite a few years, before I had EHS, and the company was still BioPro.)

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