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> The company used to be BioPro.  They have been in myriad legal trouble almost since the beginning.  Just google "BioPro scam" or "ray grimm scam artist" and take a look.  A class action lawsuit was filed against them in Indiana in 2010 for violation of federal RICO statutes.  That one may still be pending, I'm not sure.  In an ultimate slippery move to disassociate from the reputation, they changed their name to Gia Wellness which is an umbrella for a bunch of MLMs.  There is no way Maggi Garloff doesn't have "any knowledge of the turmoil surrounding the business."
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> I was burned by this company and its highly deceptive advertising years ago and did not find any benefit to their over-priced products.  Make your own judgment, but do your due diligence first. --CJ
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> On October  1, Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:
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> >  My response to the above question,Dig a little deeper Maggie.  
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> Yes, one could come up with all sorts of theories about this, but it's
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> Speaking of Klinghardt: This is an excellent video he gives.
> Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt - Smart Meters & EMR: The Health Crisis Of Our Time
> http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/dr-dietrich-klinghardt-smart-meters-emr-the-health-crisis-of-our-time/
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> Subject: [eSens] Re: New Member Bio--Gia/BioPro
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> I have not used any cellphone sticker, I have only tried some zero point energy pendants; Dr Klinghardt said cell phones stickers, emf neutralizing devices do not give protection to emf & insisted his patients to have proper shielding means eg bed canopy etc. Some viruses & bacteria would continue to multiply unless proper shielding to emf; I guess the proper way to check if these devices work or not is to have some kind of measuring devices to see whether the body improve such as biontology or other bio resonance systems etc.
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>I agree, I find reducing
>exposures of wireless, dirty electricity, toxic foods, ect,
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>the immune system by far,
>the best ways to help with ES.
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>On September 29, cjosephj <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > I was burned by this company and its highly deceptive advertising
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> > Make your own judgment, but do your due diligence first. --CJ
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>Well, I've certainly bought things from MLM companies in the
>past that have been very helpful, so one cannot say that
>products don't work simply because they are an MLM.  Nor
>can you say they don't work because that MLM has questionable
>business practices.  The products are the products, and
>how well they work is pretty much independent of the legal
>problems of the company.
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>Also, we have seen many times here that a product can work
>wonders for one person, while another person notices no
>benefit.  So just because someone notices nothing
>does not necessarily make it a bad product for everyone.
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>I'm quite aware that BioPro has a bad reputation, but if
>it works well for some people, then we need to be aware
>that it may work well for other people here.
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> CJ and others, I don't think you have enough information to make some of these assumptions.  
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> When I first started using Gia products, I was unaware of conflicts surrounding the company.  And it is a good thing, else I never would have used the products in the first place - seemed a little nutty, at the time anyway.  Today I would surely be suffering dementia, diabetes, severe skin disorders, etc. which conditions have lessened or disappeared since my use of Gia Guards in my home.
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> Many small innovators use the MLM model for their businesses as a less expensive way of introducing their products to market, especially in the medical community where they are going heads-up against powerful drug companies.
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> I do sell Gia products and said so in my bio; checked with Marc and found out it was permissible to mention products by name within this group.
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> A consultant is exactly what I am.  The subject of EHS is very complex.  I am not a doctor. I am fairly ignorant regarding nutritional supplements so I don't advise about chemical interventions. It has taken me three years educating myself about EMFs, trying various products, and understanding environmental radiation. An education/work still in progress. As far as I am concerned, removing the source of the toxin (radiation) is the first course of action.
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> Gia products are based upon noisefield technology, a proven method of mitigating against the harmful effects of EMFs to humans and animals.  It was developed by the military to protect communications personnel - which fact brings us to SmartMeters.  
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> If the government is already aware of the dangers of digital wireless communications devices, why are they allowing the wholesale roll out of SmartMeterss by utility companies in the first place?
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> Since the FDA and FCC both receive funding from the industries they purport to monitor, is it really only about money???
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> Best,
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> > --- In [hidden email], "maggigarloff" <maggigarloff@> wrote:
> > > And, yes, Gia used to be BioPro.   I don't have any knowledge of the >turmoil surrounding the business.
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> > I hate to be a spoiler here, but this is incomplete information at best, and an outright lie at worst.  There are some things people should know before purchasing anything from this company. (My experience goes back quite a few years, before I had EHS, and the company was still BioPro.)
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> > First, this company is an MLM (multi-level marketing) and Maggi Garloff is a distributor.  They call themselves "consultants," but their "consultation" is a thinly disguised way to introduce you to their products and "opportunity." Her failure to disclose this fact is to me, in itself, deceptive.  Her website is a standard copy of the website all their "consultants" get.
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>whats the best pre and post exposure treatment to mould ? I got a lung full
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>muii20 wrote thus at 01:08 PM 01-10-12:
> >I used the earthing bed  sheet & earthing pad for 4 months, I didn't
> >feel any benefits, my  first biontology readings were very bad &
> >still shown massive  electron spin inversion, the magnetic therapy
> >group did not recommend  it as the reasons of what Marc have said, I
> >stopped using the earthing  products.
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>We need to know what we're dealing with. See this from
>_http://www.earthinginstitute.net/index.php/faq1#a11_
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>Q.  Can Earthing protect me from cell phone frequencies?
>A. The protective  potential of Earthing has not been tested yet on
>cell phone exposure.  There is no research indicating that Earthing
>will or will not protect a  person from exposure to cell phones
>signals, microwave radiation, or radio  frequencies. What we know is
>that Earthing reduces significantly the  induced body voltages
>generated by simple exposure to common household 60  Hz EMFs
>continuously emitted by all plugged-in electrical cords (even if  the
>appliance is off), internal wiring, and all ungrounded electrical
>devices in the home or office. Based in the cases we have seen of
>people extremely sensitive to such EMFs it is prudent to be grounded
>as much as possible in the home or office.
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>As mentioned, it's known  to help for discharging VLF energies only.
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>In my experience and  understanding, it's quite useless to prevent
>harm from RF by earthing. The  wave are sharp and when it hits your
>body, damage is already done. The  body tries to repair that, and you
>can help by applying something that  works for you. (I use rub
>generous amount of medicated oil for wound  healing.) The body is
>already also 'toxified' and will try to deal with  it, and you can
>also help make that more effective. (I use Magnascent. I  shall
>experiment if ordinary iodine would do the same trick.)
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>For  this radio frequencies, I find avoidance and shielding to be
>effective. 3G  frequency is quite easily fended off by highly
>reflective sheets. (Use  more layers if necessary.) 2G frequency is
>lower. Thus not so easily  reflected. I've not tried something
>practical that works for it. As I  understand, some kind of fabric
>with silver coating would do a superb job.  (Sarah Dacre uses this
>type from Swiss Shield.) It's a bit expensive and  the effectiveness
>drops as the silver drops off, but for the severely  affected, it's
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>for any toxic frequencies, but I  doubt if anyone here would be
>willing to go around wrapped with sacks of  carbon!
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> CJ, To paraphrase the Bard, The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks....
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> Upon reflection about your attack and the the lack of specifics regarding the effectiveness of the Gia products, I must conclude most of the info you provide could be classified as "character assassination."
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> Six years ago, a group of people involved in a business transaction had conflict. How unusual ;-)  
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> What I find really interesting is that Dr Carlo, apparently one of the conflict-ees mentioned in info you cite, authored much of the course material I am currently studying at IBE. He actually recommends noise field technology as an intervention for digitized radio waves to protect human health.
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> --- In [hidden email], "maggigarloff" <maggigarloff@> wrote:
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> > When I first started using Gia products, I was unaware of conflicts surrounding the company.  And it is a good thing, else I never would have used the products in the first place - seemed a little nutty, at the time anyway.  Today I would surely be suffering dementia, diabetes, severe skin disorders, etc. which conditions have lessened or disappeared since my use of Gia Guards in my home.
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> > I do sell Gia products and said so in my bio; checked with Marc and found out it was permissible to mention products by name within this group.
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> > A consultant is exactly what I am.  The subject of EHS is very complex.  I am not a doctor. I am fairly ignorant regarding nutritional supplements so I don't advise about chemical interventions. It has taken me three years educating myself about EMFs, trying various products, and understanding environmental radiation. An education/work still in progress. As far as I am concerned, removing the source of the toxin (radiation) is the first course of action.
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> > Since the FDA and FCC both receive funding from the industries they purport to monitor, is it really only about money???
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> > > > And, yes, Gia used to be BioPro.   I don't have any knowledge of the >turmoil surrounding the business.
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> > > I hate to be a spoiler here, but this is incomplete information at best, and an outright lie at worst.  There are some things people should know before purchasing anything from this company. (My experience goes back quite a few years, before I had EHS, and the company was still BioPro.)
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