Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the up stairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions
Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does anyne know of a good site??? Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I have stetzers, 4, in the room ? I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, and Due to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time. Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up to the inventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL! Thank you all so much |
--- In [hidden email], "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@...> wrote: > > Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have slowly began to buy things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the up stairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions > > Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does anyne knowof a good site??? > > Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I have stetzers, 4, in the room ? > > > I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, andDue to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time. > > Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up to the inventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL! > > Thank you all so much > |
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Sorry...It should say I have slowly began to BUY...not but....You see how all this EMF is getting to me! LOL!
--- In [hidden email], "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@...> wrote: > > Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the up stairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions > > Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does anyne knowof a good site??? > > Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I have stetzers, 4, in the room ? > > > I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, andDue to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time. > > Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up to the inventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL! > > Thank you all so much > |
Barb - you are making the classic mistakes.
Get rid of everything that is wireless including your portable phone. Put the Stetzer filters in. The sticky things for phones will not stop you fromgetting brain cancer. If you use a cell - use an Bluetube airtube from mercola.com and use it sparingly Read this article from Prevention magazine. It's now on msnbc.com and is becoming widely available. Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put the phone in his pocket. On 2010-01-21, at 8:44 AM, barbpom2000 wrote: > Sorry...It should say I have slowly began to BUY...not but....You see howall this EMF is getting to me! LOL! > > --- In [hidden email], "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@...> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the upstairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions > > > > Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does anyne know of a good site??? > > > > Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I have stetzers, 4, in the room ? > > > > > > I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, and Due to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time. > > > > Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up to theinventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL! > > > > Thank you all so much > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Stetzer filters can make things worse if you have more than one
source of dirty power. They are not true RF filters because they connect in parallel, not in series. In some cases they may help... filtering is tricky business... it's always best just to unplug electronics when not in use. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Bob Connolly <[hidden email]>wrote: > Barb - you are making the classic mistakes. > > Get rid of everything that is wireless including your portable phone. Put > the Stetzer filters in. The sticky things for phones will not stop you from > getting brain cancer. If you use a cell - use an Bluetube airtube from > mercola.com and use it sparingly > > Read this article from Prevention magazine. It's now on msnbc.com and is > becoming widely available. > > Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put > the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put > the phone in his pocket. > > > > > On 2010-01-21, at 8:44 AM, barbpom2000 wrote: > > > Sorry...It should say I have slowly began to BUY...not but....You see how > all this EMF is getting to me! LOL! > > > > --- In [hidden email], "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have > slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the up > stairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra > neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone > in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions > > > > > > Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the > protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone > holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does > anyne know of a good site??? > > > > > > Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I > have stetzers, 4, in the room ? > > > > > > > > > I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, > and Due to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time. > > > > > > Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and > sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up > to the inventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL! > > > > > > Thank you all so much > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> The sticky things for phones will not stop you from getting brain cancer.
We've had at least one person here who thought the Aulterra stickers were helpful. Certainly they did not claim that they were a 100% solution, just helpful. I've tried the Aulterra stickers myself, and they definitely do *something*, although I thought they made my electrical sensitivity symptoms worse, not better. Marc |
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Yes I agree. You can't get better if you are exposing yourself to all that wireless. Change it. I really have gotten a lot of relief from the QLink. Worth a try but I don't have wireless here; just lots of cell antennas in the area. Loni
--- On Thu, 1/21/10, Bob Connolly <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Bob Connolly <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 9:26 AM Barb - you are making the classic mistakes. Get rid of everything that is wireless including your portable phone. Put the Stetzer filters in. The sticky things for phones will not stop you from getting brain cancer. If you use a cell - use an Bluetube airtube from mercola.com and use it sparingly Read this article from Prevention magazine. It's now on msnbc.com and is becoming widely available. Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put the phone in his pocket. On 2010-01-21, at 8:44 AM, barbpom2000 wrote: > Sorry...It should say I have slowly began to BUY...not but....You see howall this EMF is getting to me! LOL! > > --- In [hidden email], "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@...> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the upstairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions > > > > Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does anyne know of a good site??? > > > > Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I have stetzers, 4, in the room ? > > > > > > I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, and Due to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time. > > > > Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up to theinventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL! > > > > Thank you all so much > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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What can be more than one source of dirty power? didn't understand. Loni
--- On Thu, 1/21/10, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 9:50 AM Stetzer filters can make things worse if you have more than one source of dirty power. They are not true RF filters because they connect in parallel, not in series. In some cases they may help... filtering is tricky business... it's always best just to unplug electronics when not in use. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Bob Connolly <robert_connolly@ rogers.com>wrote: > Barb - you are making the classic mistakes. > > Get rid of everything that is wireless including your portable phone. Put > the Stetzer filters in. The sticky things for phones will not stop you from > getting brain cancer. If you use a cell - use an Bluetube airtube from > mercola.com and use it sparingly > > Read this article from Prevention magazine. It's now on msnbc.com and is > becoming widely available. > > Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put > the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put > the phone in his pocket. > > > > > On 2010-01-21, at 8:44 AM, barbpom2000 wrote: > > > Sorry...It should say I have slowly began to BUY...not but....You see how > all this EMF is getting to me! LOL! > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have > slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the up > stairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra > neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone > in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions > > > > > > Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the > protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone > holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does > anyne know of a good site??? > > > > > > Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I > have stetzers, 4, in the room ? > > > > > > > > > I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, > and Due to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time. > > > > > > Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and > sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up > to the inventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL! > > > > > > Thank you all so much > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 22/01/2010 20:59:51 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put the phone in his pocket. puk replies - do you have the link please [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Could I have the link please? I could not find it, despite a search. Fnx Kooky --- On Sat, 1/23/10, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 6:41 AM In a message dated 22/01/2010 20:59:51 GMT Standard Time, loni326@yahoo. com writes: Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put the phone in his pocket. puk replies - do you have the link please [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Just came across this, it can and does affect the heart rate, for some. VIDEO: Evidence of Health Harm from Electromagnetic Radiation http://www.youtube. com/user/ EMRPolicyInstitu te "Professor Havas's research documents the harmful effects of EMR and how this effects those with electrohypersensiti vity. She will also discussthe response of diabetics, those with multiple sclerosis as well as the effectsof this radiation on the nervous system and on the blood." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Kooky! Thank you.
I kept getting "Phantom text messages" in my chest from my phone in my top shirt pocket for two years pra to me coming down with ES. Its a shame GPs dont except this info? Giles --- On Sat, 23/1/10, Kooky <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Kooky <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, 23 January, 2010, 12:36 Just came across this, it can and does affect the heart rate, for some. VIDEO: Evidence of Health Harm from Electromagnetic Radiation http://www.youtube. com/user/ EMRPolicyInstitu te "Professor Havas's research documents the harmful effects of EMR and how this effects those with electrohypersensiti vity. She will also discussthe response of diabetics, those with multiple sclerosis as well as the effectsof this radiation on the nervous system and on the blood." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Giles, no GPs that I know of accepts EMF/ES/RF - lol, not convenient, and costly. What's "Phantom Text Messages" Kooky --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Christina Steils <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Christina Steils <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 6:25 PM Kooky! Thank you. I kept getting "Phantom text messages" in my chest from my phone in my top shirt pocket for two years pra to me coming down with ES. Its a shame GPs dont except this info? Giles --- On Sat, 23/1/10, Kooky <furstc0404@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Kooky <furstc0404@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, 23 January, 2010, 12:36 Just came across this, it can and does affect the heart rate, for some. VIDEO: Evidence of Health Harm from Electromagnetic Radiation http://www.youtube. com/user/ EMRPolicyInstitu te "Professor Havas's research documents the harmful effects of EMR and how this effects those with electrohypersensiti vity. She will also discussthe response of diabetics, those with multiple sclerosis as well as the effectsof this radiation on the nervous system and on the blood." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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http://www.youtube.com/magdahavas
On 2010-01-23, at 7:16 AM, Kooky wrote: > > Could I have the link please? I could not find it, despite a search. > > Fnx > > Kooky > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please > To: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 6:41 AM > > > > In a message dated 22/01/2010 20:59:51 GMT Standard Time, loni326@yahoo. com > > writes: > > Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put > > the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put > > the phone in his pocket. > > puk replies - do you have the link please > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnmu53sSWbM
Most men carry their mobile in their jacket or trousers for easy access. I used to carry mine in my motorbike jacket’s front left pocket. When I stopped doing that the unexplained palpitations I suffered from for 2 years vanished immediately. In conversations with friends, colleagues and fellow bikers I heard that many of them experience similar symptoms like pain or tremors in the chest area or what the American media refers to as “phantom text messages”. Every now and then I’d think I had a text message, when carrying my phone in my trouser pockets, but when I checked there was nothing there. According to Swedish scientist and ES expert Olle Johansson this is caused “by high intensity bursts of extremely-low frequency electromagnetic field charges that your phone is producing and (that are) affecting your nervous system.” This seems to affect mainly men, as men are more likely to carry their phone on their body than women, who mainly carry them in their handbags. Best Giles --- On Sat, 23/1/10, Kooky <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Kooky <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, 23 January, 2010, 23:47 Giles, no GPs that I know of accepts EMF/ES/RF - lol, not convenient, and costly. What's "Phantom Text Messages" Kooky --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Christina Steils <csteils@yahoo. co.uk> wrote: From: Christina Steils <csteils@yahoo. co.uk> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 6:25 PM Kooky! Thank you. I kept getting "Phantom text messages" in my chest from my phone in my top shirt pocket for two years pra to me coming down with ES. Its a shame GPs dont except this info? Giles --- On Sat, 23/1/10, Kooky <furstc0404@ yahoo. com> wrote: From: Kooky <furstc0404@ yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, 23 January, 2010, 12:36 Just came across this, it can and does affect the heart rate, for some. VIDEO: Evidence of Health Harm from Electromagnetic Radiation http://www.youtube. com/user/ EMRPolicyInstitu te "Professor Havas's research documents the harmful effects of EMR and how this effects those with electrohypersensiti vity. She will also discussthe response of diabetics, those with multiple sclerosis as well as the effectsof this radiation on the nervous system and on the blood." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Well done great find!
Giles --- On Sat, 23/1/10, Kooky <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Kooky <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, 23 January, 2010, 12:36 Just came across this, it can and does affect the heart rate, for some. VIDEO: Evidence of Health Harm from Electromagnetic Radiation http://www.youtube. com/user/ EMRPolicyInstitu te "Professor Havas's research documents the harmful effects of EMR and how this effects those with electrohypersensiti vity. She will also discussthe response of diabetics, those with multiple sclerosis as well as the effectsof this radiation on the nervous system and on the blood." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Soldiers being dosed up with jabs, then going into the field with high powered radios and radar equipment. ummm! Let us think about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/environmental-illnesses/gulf-war-syndrome/ On a Note ;- I have talked to two ex soliders regarding radio packs, and both reported dealing with radiation burns from operators. Giles [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UpLuXFXJCc&feature=related
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I recall finding a military file a couple years ago about the radiation dangers involved with HAM radio, the effects of the radiation on the users. Itdefinitely caused them problems. Sorry I don't have the reference right now.
~ Snoshoe --- In [hidden email], Christina Steils <csteils@...> wrote: > > > Soldiers being dosed up with jabs, then going into the field with high powered radios and radar equipment. ummm! Let us think about this? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome > > http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/environmental-illnesses/gulf-war-syndrome/ > > On a Note ;- I have talked to two ex soliders regarding radio packs, and both reported dealing with radiation burns from operators. > Giles > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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