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barbpom2000
Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the up stairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions

Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does anyne know of a good site???

Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I have stetzers, 4, in the room ?


I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, and Due to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time.

Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up to the inventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL!

Thank you all so much

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--- In [hidden email], "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@...> wrote:

>
> Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have slowly began to buy things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the up stairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions
>
> Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does anyne knowof a good site???
>
> Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I have stetzers, 4, in the room ?
>
>
> I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, andDue to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time.
>
> Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up to the inventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL!
>
> Thank you all so much
>

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barbpom2000
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Sorry...It should say I have slowly began to BUY...not but....You see how all this EMF is getting to me! LOL!

--- In [hidden email], "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@...> wrote:

>
> Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the up stairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions
>
> Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does anyne knowof a good site???
>
> Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I have stetzers, 4, in the room ?
>
>
> I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, andDue to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time.
>
> Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up to the inventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL!
>
> Thank you all so much
>

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Re: Need advise please

Bob Connolly
Barb - you are making the classic mistakes.

Get rid of everything that is wireless including your portable phone. Put the Stetzer filters in. The sticky things for phones will not stop you fromgetting brain cancer. If you use a cell - use an Bluetube airtube from mercola.com and use it sparingly

Read this article from Prevention magazine. It's now on msnbc.com and is becoming widely available.

Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put the phone in his pocket.




On 2010-01-21, at 8:44 AM, barbpom2000 wrote:

> Sorry...It should say I have slowly began to BUY...not but....You see howall this EMF is getting to me! LOL!
>
> --- In [hidden email], "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the upstairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions
> >
> > Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does anyne know of a good site???
> >
> > Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I have stetzers, 4, in the room ?
> >
> >
> > I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, and Due to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time.
> >
> > Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up to theinventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL!
> >
> > Thank you all so much
> >
>
>



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BiBrun
Stetzer filters can make things worse if you have more than one
source of dirty power. They are not true RF filters because they
connect in parallel, not in series. In some cases they may help...
filtering is tricky business... it's always best just to unplug
electronics when not in use.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Bob Connolly <[hidden email]>wrote:

> Barb - you are making the classic mistakes.
>
> Get rid of everything that is wireless including your portable phone. Put
> the Stetzer filters in. The sticky things for phones will not stop you from
> getting brain cancer. If you use a cell - use an Bluetube airtube from
> mercola.com and use it sparingly
>
> Read this article from Prevention magazine. It's now on msnbc.com and is
> becoming widely available.
>
> Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put
> the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put
> the phone in his pocket.
>
>
>
>
> On 2010-01-21, at 8:44 AM, barbpom2000 wrote:
>
> > Sorry...It should say I have slowly began to BUY...not but....You see how
> all this EMF is getting to me! LOL!
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have
> slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the up
> stairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra
> neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone
> in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions
> > >
> > > Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the
> protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone
> holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does
> anyne know of a good site???
> > >
> > > Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I
> have stetzers, 4, in the room ?
> > >
> > >
> > > I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house,
> and Due to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time.
> > >
> > > Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and
> sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up
> to the inventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL!
> > >
> > > Thank you all so much
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Marc Martin
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> The sticky things for phones will not stop you from getting brain cancer.

We've had at least one person here who thought the Aulterra stickers
were helpful. Certainly they did not claim that they were a 100%
solution, just helpful.

I've tried the Aulterra stickers myself, and they definitely do
*something*, although I thought they made my electrical sensitivity
symptoms worse, not better.

Marc

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Loni Rosser
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Yes I agree. You can't get better if you are exposing yourself to all that wireless. Change it. I really have gotten a lot of relief from the QLink. Worth a try but I don't have wireless here; just lots of cell antennas in the area. Loni

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, Bob Connolly <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Bob Connolly <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 9:26 AM


Barb - you are making the classic mistakes.

Get rid of everything that is wireless including your portable phone.  Put the Stetzer filters in. The sticky things for phones will not stop you from getting brain cancer.  If you use a cell - use an Bluetube airtube from mercola.com and use it sparingly

Read this article from Prevention magazine.   It's now on msnbc.com and is becoming widely available.

Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put the phone in his pocket.




On 2010-01-21, at 8:44 AM, barbpom2000 wrote:

> Sorry...It should say I have slowly began to BUY...not but....You see howall this EMF is getting to me! LOL!
>
> --- In [hidden email], "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the upstairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions
> >
> > Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does anyne know of a good site???
> >
> > Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I have stetzers, 4, in the room ?
> >
> >
> > I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house, and Due to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time.
> >
> > Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up to theinventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL!
> >
> > Thank you all so much
> >
>
>



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Loni Rosser
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What can be more than one source of dirty power?  didn't understand. Loni

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From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 9:50 AM


 



Stetzer filters can make things worse if you have more than one
source of dirty power. They are not true RF filters because they
connect in parallel, not in series. In some cases they may help...
filtering is tricky business... it's always best just to unplug
electronics when not in use.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Bob Connolly <robert_connolly@ rogers.com>wrote:

> Barb - you are making the classic mistakes.
>
> Get rid of everything that is wireless including your portable phone. Put
> the Stetzer filters in. The sticky things for phones will not stop you from
> getting brain cancer. If you use a cell - use an Bluetube airtube from
> mercola.com and use it sparingly
>
> Read this article from Prevention magazine. It's now on msnbc.com and is
> becoming widely available.
>
> Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put
> the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put
> the phone in his pocket.
>
>
>
>
> On 2010-01-21, at 8:44 AM, barbpom2000 wrote:
>
> > Sorry...It should say I have slowly began to BUY...not but....You see how
> all this EMF is getting to me! LOL!
> >
> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everyone, After studing EMF and all what it can do to us. I have
> slowly began to but things to protect us. I purchased 4 stetzers for the up
> stairs where we have all our wireless computers. I purchased Aulterra
> neutralizers where you paste on your cell phones. My husband puts his phone
> in his shirt pocket, and I knew he needed protection. Here are my questions
> > >
> > > Will the little stick on things I put on his cell phone give him the
> protection he needs, I have been looking for a leather type cel;l phone
> holder for additional protection, but I cannot find them anywhere. Does
> anyne know of a good site???
> > >
> > > Do I also need stick on things to put on my computers even though I
> have stetzers, 4, in the room ?
> > >
> > >
> > > I plan on getting more stetzers eventually throughout my whole house,
> and Due to the cost, I have to only buy so many at a time.
> > >
> > > Anyhelp would be greatly apperciated. I am of a simple mind, and
> sometimes the information is a lot to try and figure out. So I leave it up
> to the inventers to figure out how all this works, I just buy! LOL!
> > >
> > > Thank you all so much
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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PUK
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In a message dated 22/01/2010 20:59:51 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]
writes:

Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put
the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put
the phone in his pocket.




puk replies - do you have the link please


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furstc0404-2

Could I have the link please?  I could not find it, despite a search.

Fnx

Kooky

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

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In a message dated 22/01/2010 20:59:51 GMT Standard Time, loni326@yahoo. com

writes:



Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put

the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put

the phone in his pocket.



puk replies - do you have the link please



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furstc0404-2
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Just came across this, it can and does affect the heart rate, for some.

VIDEO:  Evidence of Health Harm from Electromagnetic
Radiation
http://www.youtube. com/user/ EMRPolicyInstitu te
 
"Professor Havas's research documents the harmful effects of EMR and
how this effects those with electrohypersensiti vity. She will also discussthe
response of diabetics, those with multiple sclerosis as well as the effectsof
this radiation on the nervous system and on the blood."




     

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Christina Steils
Kooky! Thank you.
I kept getting "Phantom text messages" in my chest from my phone in my top shirt pocket for two years pra to me coming down with ES.
Its a shame GPs dont except this info?
Giles

--- On Sat, 23/1/10, Kooky <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Kooky <[hidden email]>
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Just came across this, it can and does affect the heart rate, for some.



VIDEO:  Evidence of Health Harm from Electromagnetic

Radiation

http://www.youtube. com/user/ EMRPolicyInstitu te

 

"Professor Havas's research documents the harmful effects of EMR and

how this effects those with electrohypersensiti vity. She will also discussthe

response of diabetics, those with multiple sclerosis as well as the effectsof

this radiation on the nervous system and on the blood."



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furstc0404-2


Giles, no GPs that I know of accepts EMF/ES/RF - lol, not convenient, and costly.

What's "Phantom Text Messages" 

Kooky

--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Christina Steils <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Kooky! Thank you.

I kept getting "Phantom text messages" in my chest from my phone in my top shirt pocket for two years pra to me coming down with ES.

Its a shame GPs dont except this info?

Giles



--- On Sat, 23/1/10, Kooky <furstc0404@yahoo. com> wrote:



From: Kooky <furstc0404@yahoo. com>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, 23 January, 2010, 12:36



 



Just came across this, it can and does affect the heart rate, for some.



VIDEO:  Evidence of Health Harm from Electromagnetic



Radiation



http://www.youtube. com/user/ EMRPolicyInstitu te



 



"Professor Havas's research documents the harmful effects of EMR and



how this effects those with electrohypersensiti vity. She will also discussthe



response of diabetics, those with multiple sclerosis as well as the effectsof



this radiation on the nervous system and on the blood."



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Video of senate hearing...

Bob Connolly
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http://www.youtube.com/magdahavas


On 2010-01-23, at 7:16 AM, Kooky wrote:

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> Could I have the link please? I could not find it, despite a search.
>
> Fnx
>
> Kooky
>
> --- On Sat, 1/23/10, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 6:41 AM
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>  
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> In a message dated 22/01/2010 20:59:51 GMT Standard Time, loni326@yahoo. com
>
> writes:
>
> Watch this video It's from the US Senate hearing that says you can't put
>
> the phone on your body - play it to your husband and I feel he will not put
>
> the phone in his pocket.
>
> puk replies - do you have the link please
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Re: Need advise please/ Phantom text messages ie EMF discharge

Christina Steils
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnmu53sSWbM





Most
men carry their mobile in their jacket or trousers for easy access. I used to
carry mine in my motorbike jacket’s front left pocket. When I stopped doing
that the unexplained palpitations I suffered from for 2 years vanished
immediately.

In
conversations with friends, colleagues and fellow bikers I heard that many of
them experience similar symptoms like pain or tremors in the chest area or what
the American media refers to as “phantom text messages”. Every now and then I’d
think I had a text message, when carrying my phone in my trouser pockets, but
when I checked there was nothing there.

According
to Swedish scientist and ES expert Olle Johansson this is caused “by high
intensity bursts of extremely-low frequency electromagnetic field charges that
your phone is producing and (that are) affecting your nervous system.”

 

This
seems to affect mainly men, as men are more likely to carry their phone on
their body than women, who mainly carry them in their handbags.
Best
Giles






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Giles, no GPs that I know of accepts EMF/ES/RF - lol, not convenient, and costly.



What's "Phantom Text Messages" 



Kooky



--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Christina Steils <csteils@yahoo. co.uk> wrote:



From: Christina Steils <csteils@yahoo. co.uk>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 6:25 PM



 



Kooky! Thank you.



I kept getting "Phantom text messages" in my chest from my phone in my top shirt pocket for two years pra to me coming down with ES.



Its a shame GPs dont except this info?



Giles



--- On Sat, 23/1/10, Kooky <furstc0404@ yahoo. com> wrote:



From: Kooky <furstc0404@ yahoo. com>



Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Need advise please



To: eSens@yahoogroups. com



Date: Saturday, 23 January, 2010, 12:36



 



Just came across this, it can and does affect the heart rate, for some.



VIDEO:  Evidence of Health Harm from Electromagnetic



Radiation



http://www.youtube. com/user/ EMRPolicyInstitu te



 



"Professor Havas's research documents the harmful effects of EMR and



how this effects those with electrohypersensiti vity. She will also discussthe



response of diabetics, those with multiple sclerosis as well as the effectsof



this radiation on the nervous system and on the blood."



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Christina Steils
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Well done great find!
Giles

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Just came across this, it can and does affect the heart rate, for some.



VIDEO:  Evidence of Health Harm from Electromagnetic

Radiation

http://www.youtube. com/user/ EMRPolicyInstitu te

 

"Professor Havas's research documents the harmful effects of EMR and

how this effects those with electrohypersensiti vity. She will also discussthe

response of diabetics, those with multiple sclerosis as well as the effectsof

this radiation on the nervous system and on the blood."



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Re: Gulf War Syndrome / Jabs and Radios!!!

Christina Steils
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Soldiers being dosed up with jabs, then going into the field with high powered radios and radar equipment. ummm! Let us think about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome

http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/environmental-illnesses/gulf-war-syndrome/

On a Note ;- I have talked to two ex soliders regarding radio packs, and both reported dealing with radiation burns from operators.
Giles




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Gulf War Syndrome. ME / ES its in your head!!!

Christina Steils
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UpLuXFXJCc&feature=related




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Re: Gulf War Syndrome / Jabs and Radios!!!

Snoshoe
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I recall finding a military file a couple years ago about the radiation dangers involved with HAM radio, the effects of the radiation on the users. Itdefinitely caused them problems. Sorry I don't have the reference right now.
~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Christina Steils <csteils@...> wrote:

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> Soldiers being dosed up with jabs, then going into the field with high powered radios and radar equipment. ummm! Let us think about this?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome
>
> http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/environmental-illnesses/gulf-war-syndrome/
>
> On a Note ;- I have talked to two ex soliders regarding radio packs, and both reported dealing with radiation burns from operators.
> Giles
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