I am giving the link for this site Not to mention a detox protocol, but to prove a point. Go to NDF & under it, it mentions nanocolloidal Silica I'm sure it was a good idea but I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that. http://www.tuberose.com/Metal_Detoxification.html I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness. Kathy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that.
> I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness. Hmmmm, I took NDF for years and never got Morgellan's. Also taken a lot of silica hydride supplements over the years and never associated it with any new problems. I wonder how realistic your fears really are? Marc |
Dr. Hildegaard Stanniger has research to prove it. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_morgellons01.htm She says it may be coming from Chem Trails. However, if you took it in supplements, maybe you could get it. It must be awful. http://www.dldewey.com/morgel.htm Morgellons Disease New Lab Findings Point To Silicone/Silica and High Density Polyethlyene Fibers, - From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Nano particles in supplements > I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that. > I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness. Hmmmm, I took NDF for years and never got Morgellan's. Also taken a lot of silica hydride supplements over the years and never associated it with any new problems. I wonder how realistic your fears really are? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Are all silica in supplements produced by nano technology? Which other excipients are produced by nano technology?
Thanks nil ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Martin To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Nano particles in supplements > I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that. > I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness. Hmmmm, I took NDF for years and never got Morgellan's. Also taken a lot of silica hydride supplements over the years and never associated it with any new problems. I wonder how realistic your fears really are? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Well, there are nano particles in Chemtrails and this has been documented.- although you won't this on regular mainstream television. Also, if memory serves me, Congressman Dennis Kucinich sponsored legislation to stop the aerosol spraying- which is another word for chemtrails. And gov't records gotten via FOI support the aerosol spraying activities. So Morgallens is a real threat. Those people must feel very much like us ES, as what they have isn't being acknowledged either. And there will always be some "in active" ingredients used in supplements that will bother some people, but not others. As to nano particles & silica, that's come under fire just like magnesium stearate has. ES covers a broad area, as far as symptoms, and triggers. I think the same with supplements. Searching for supplements is another broad area- takes time and attention to detail. You try to get the purest, you find what works for you, and if you're like me? You keep reading and learning. Off the shelf in regular grocery stores is probably not going to render the safest supplements. Ideally, you want to deal with companies who have a good track record, (don't get their stuff from China- although that is not the only requirement) and this is the time part, doing the research. Do I think some unscrupulous companies might use supplement ingredients that are cheap, unhealthy, and downright toxic? Absolutely. buyer beware. Are all nano particles bad? I don't believe so. All nano means is tiny. What is put into the nano, is another story. So to me, its content...not so much the form. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:58:03 -0800 Subject: Re: [eSens] Nano particles in supplements Dr. Hildegaard Stanniger has research to prove it. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_morgellons01.htm She says it may be coming from Chem Trails. However, if you took it in supplements, maybe you could get it. It must be awful. http://www.dldewey.com/morgel.htm Morgellons Disease New Lab Findings Point To Silicone/Silica and High Density Polyethlyene Fibers, - From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Nano particles in supplements > I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that. > I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness. Hmmmm, I took NDF for years and never got Morgellan's. Also taken a lot of silica hydride supplements over the years and never associated it with any new problems. I wonder how realistic your fears really are? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Morgellans is caused from chemtrail/ aerosol spraying of toxic particles, yes nano particles composed of: Aluminum (highly toxic) Barium (toxic), fungus/ micro toxins ( toxicity levels much depends upon the individuals immune system. The silica is used to stick the stuff together, like glue. And polyfibers also toxic, in that they can penetrate the body. They are like tiny, nano sized darts, if you will. capable of penetrating the skin. Similiar, I'd imagine as Asbestos fibers. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:05:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [eSens] Nano particles in supplements Are all silica in supplements produced by nano technology? Which other excipients are produced by nano technology? Thanks nil ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Martin To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Nano particles in supplements > I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that. > I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness. Hmmmm, I took NDF for years and never got Morgellan's. Also taken a lot of silica hydride supplements over the years and never associated it with any new problems. I wonder how realistic your fears really are? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Morgellans is caused from chemtrail/ aerosol spraying of toxic particles,
> yes nano particles composed of: Aluminum (highly toxic) Barium (toxic), > fungus/ micro toxins ( toxicity levels much depends upon the individuals > immune system. The silica is used to stick the stuff together, like glue. Well, that's very interesting, but has nothing to do with ES... :-) And way to far of a stretch to imply that supplements using nano-particles cause Morgellans. Marc |
Maybe...maybe not. I've read on here that people often wonder how big a role heavy metals plays in ES onset. Aluminum is a heavy metal, and this could be a factor in ES. Granted, I believe there are probably many different triggers for ES. But I wouldn't rule being sprayed with heavy metals/ bio toxins out, as both could serve to weaken immune systems. I think it' s fair to say that some of us do wonder what brought us to the ES . And if a person didn't have silver fillings, or ever get a vaccine, or work or live in an industrial area...in a case such as that...Morgellans would have to be considered. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:54:06 -0800 Subject: RE: [eSens] Nano particles in supplements > Morgellans is caused from chemtrail/ aerosol spraying of toxic particles, > yes nano particles composed of: Aluminum (highly toxic) Barium (toxic), > fungus/ micro toxins ( toxicity levels much depends upon the individuals > immune system. The silica is used to stick the stuff together, like glue. Well, that's very interesting, but has nothing to do with ES... :-) And way to far of a stretch to imply that supplements using nano-particles cause Morgellans. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I'm sorry, this may be a part of ES. Those people couldn't tolerate emf's due to what's trapped under their skin. Chemtrails are toxic. If there is something in supplements that can contribute to illness, I wanted to share. And no, I don't know for sure. Kathy Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: RE: [eSens] Nano particles in supplements > Morgellans is caused from chemtrail/ aerosol spraying of toxic particles, > yes nano particles composed of: Aluminum (highly toxic) Barium (toxic), > fungus/ micro toxins ( toxicity levels much depends upon the individuals > immune system. The silica is used to stick the stuff together, like glue. Well, that's very interesting, but has nothing to do with ES... :-) And way to far of a stretch to imply that supplements using nano-particles cause Morgellans. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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The content is what I was trying to find out. There never used to be silica added to supplements. Unless I'm misunderstanding part of the Morgellans research points to silicone. You'd have to check out the co''s ingredient source. Kathy What is put into the nano, is another story. So to me, its content...not so much the form. Lizzie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Check your sources. I can only say I have pain in my nerve endings cannot handle this technology.. I reacted to them & wonder what choices are left for supplements?? . http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/scdocs/doc/ans_ej1132_Inorganicsiliconsources_op_en.pdf?ssbinary=true Monoethylsilianetriol is a form http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/scdocs/doc/ans_ej948_Choline_stabilised_orthosilic_acid_op_Updated_en.pdf?ssbinary=true Silicon sources include oats, barley, & white wheat, rice, milk silica E551 & dimethlpolysiloxane is added to foods as anti-caking & anti-foaming agent microcrystalline cellulose is put in some medicines & vitamins Has low levels of arsenic, lead, mercury, & cadmium http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080924142414AAJhRLI http://www.buzzle.com/articles/silicon-dioxide-in-food.html Most multivitamin or combination supplement products I've come across use silicon dioxide (or silica, SiO2) as an excipient. Recent research has shown that silicon dioxide nanoparticles (size 1-1000nm) can be cytotoxic (i.e. kill mammalian cells) but I'm not sure as to whether "larger" silica particles have this property. What is unclear to me is whether the silicon dioxide used as excipients in nutritional supplement products are formulated in larger pieces (which would not be expected to be absorbed by the GI tract) or if they are indeed being added as nanoparticles instead (which could potentially be much more harmful). --- On Thu, 1/26/12, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote: From: KathyB <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Nano particles in supplements To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, January 26, 2012, 8:34 AM The content is what I was trying to find out. There never used to be silica added to supplements. Unless I'm misunderstanding part of the Morgellans research points to silicone. You'd have to check out the co''s ingredient source. Kathy What is put into the nano, is another story. So to me, its content...not so much the form. Lizzie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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