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Nano particles in supplements

KathyB

I am giving the link for this site Not to mention a detox protocol, but to prove a point.

Go to NDF & under it, it mentions nanocolloidal Silica I'm sure it was a good idea but

I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that.

http://www.tuberose.com/Metal_Detoxification.html

I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness.

Kathy






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Marc Martin
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> I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that.
> I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness.

Hmmmm, I took NDF for years and never got Morgellan's.  Also taken a lot of silica hydride supplements over the years and never associated it with any new problems.  I wonder how realistic your fears really are?

Marc
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KathyB

Dr. Hildegaard Stanniger has research to prove it.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_morgellons01.htm

She says it may be coming from Chem Trails.

 However, if you  took it in supplements, maybe you could get it. It must be awful. 


http://www.dldewey.com/morgel.htm


Morgellons Disease


New Lab Findings Point To Silicone/Silica
and High Density Polyethlyene Fibers,


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      > I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that.

> I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness.



Hmmmm, I took NDF for years and never got Morgellan's.  Also taken a lot of silica hydride supplements over the years and never associated it with any new problems.  I wonder how realistic your fears really are?



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cindi
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Are all silica in supplements produced by nano technology? Which other excipients are produced by nano technology?
Thanks
nil
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  > I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that.
  > I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness.

  Hmmmm, I took NDF for years and never got Morgellan's.  Also taken a lot of silica hydride supplements over the years and never associated it with any new problems.  I wonder how realistic your fears really are?

  Marc

   

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Elizabeth thode
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Well, there are nano particles in Chemtrails and this has been documented.-
although you won't this on regular mainstream television. Also, if memory serves
me, Congressman Dennis Kucinich sponsored legislation to stop the aerosol spraying-
which is another word for chemtrails. And gov't records gotten via  FOI support
the aerosol spraying activities. So Morgallens is a real threat. Those people
must feel very much like us ES, as what they have isn't being acknowledged
either.
And there will always be some "in active" ingredients used in supplements
that will bother some people, but not others.
As to nano particles & silica, that's come under fire just like magnesium stearate has.
ES covers a broad area, as far as symptoms, and triggers. I think the same with
supplements. Searching for supplements is another broad area-
takes time and attention to detail.
You try to get the purest, you find what works for you, and if you're like
me? You keep reading and learning.
Off the shelf in regular grocery stores is probably not going to render the safest
supplements.  
Ideally, you want to deal with companies who have a good track record, (don't get their stuff
from China- although that is not the only requirement)  and this is the time part, doing the
research.
Do I think some unscrupulous companies might use supplement ingredients that are cheap,
unhealthy, and downright toxic? Absolutely. buyer beware.
Are all nano particles bad?  I don't believe so.  
 All nano means is tiny. What is put into the nano, is another story.
So to me, its content...not so much the form.
Lizzie



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Dr. Hildegaard Stanniger has research to prove it.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_morgellons01.htm

She says it may be coming from Chem Trails.

 However, if you  took it in supplements, maybe you could get it. It must be awful.  

http://www.dldewey.com/morgel.htm

Morgellons Disease

New Lab Findings Point To Silicone/Silica
and High Density Polyethlyene Fibers,

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> I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that.

> I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness.

Hmmmm, I took NDF for years and never got Morgellan's. Also taken a lot of silica hydride supplements over the years and never associated it with any new problems. I wonder how realistic your fears really are?

Marc

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RE: Nano particles in supplements

Elizabeth thode
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Morgellans is caused from chemtrail/ aerosol spraying of toxic particles, yes nano particles composed of:
Aluminum (highly toxic) Barium (toxic), fungus/ micro toxins ( toxicity levels much depends upon the individuals
immune system. The silica is used to stick the stuff together, like glue. And polyfibers also toxic, in that they
can penetrate the body. They are like tiny, nano sized darts, if you will. capable of penetrating the skin.
Similiar, I'd imagine as Asbestos fibers.
Lizzie

 



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Are all silica in supplements produced by nano technology? Which other excipients are produced by nano technology?
Thanks
nil
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> I read nano ingredients in anything can cause Morgellan's. You don't want to get that.
> I'm tired of reading supplement ingredients & seeing silica on the label. They will cause a lot of illness.

Hmmmm, I took NDF for years and never got Morgellan's. Also taken a lot of silica hydride supplements over the years and never associated it with any new problems. I wonder how realistic your fears really are?

Marc

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Marc Martin
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> Morgellans is caused from chemtrail/ aerosol spraying of toxic particles,
> yes nano particles composed of: Aluminum (highly toxic) Barium (toxic),
> fungus/ micro toxins ( toxicity levels much depends upon the individuals
> immune system. The silica is used to stick the stuff together, like glue.

Well, that's very interesting, but has nothing to do with ES... :-)

And way to far of a stretch to imply that supplements using nano-particles
cause Morgellans.

Marc
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Elizabeth thode

Maybe...maybe not. I've read  on here that people
often wonder how big a role heavy metals plays in ES onset.
Aluminum is a heavy metal, and this could be a factor in ES.
Granted, I believe there are probably many different triggers for ES.
But I wouldn't rule being sprayed with heavy metals/ bio toxins
out, as both could serve to weaken immune systems. I think it' s fair
to say that some of us do wonder what brought us to the ES . And
if a person didn't have silver fillings, or ever get a vaccine, or work
or live in an industrial area...in a case such as that...Morgellans would
have to be considered.
Lizzie



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> Morgellans is caused from chemtrail/ aerosol spraying of toxic particles,
> yes nano particles composed of: Aluminum (highly toxic) Barium (toxic),
> fungus/ micro toxins ( toxicity levels much depends upon the individuals
> immune system. The silica is used to stick the stuff together, like glue.

Well, that's very interesting, but has nothing to do with ES... :-)

And way to far of a stretch to imply that supplements using nano-particles
cause Morgellans.

Marc




     

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KathyB
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I'm sorry, this may be a part of ES. Those people couldn't tolerate
emf's due to what's trapped under their skin. Chemtrails are toxic.

 If there is something in supplements that can contribute to
illness, I wanted to share.  And no,   I don't know for sure.

Kathy





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      > Morgellans is caused from chemtrail/ aerosol spraying of toxic particles,

> yes nano particles composed of: Aluminum (highly toxic) Barium (toxic),

> fungus/ micro toxins ( toxicity levels much depends upon the individuals

> immune system. The silica is used to stick the stuff together, like glue.



Well, that's very interesting, but has nothing to do with ES... :-)



And way to far of a stretch to imply that supplements using nano-particles

cause Morgellans.



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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RE: Nano particles in supplements

KathyB
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The content is what I was trying to find out. There never used to be
silica added to supplements. Unless I'm misunderstanding part of the Morgellans research points to silicone. You'd have to check out the co''s ingredient source.
Kathy

What is put into the nano, is another story.

So to me, its content...not so much the form.


Lizzie


 










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KathyB



Check your sources. I can only say I have pain in my nerve endings cannot handle  this technology.. I reacted to them & wonder what choices are left for supplements??
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http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/scdocs/doc/ans_ej1132_Inorganicsiliconsources_op_en.pdf?ssbinary=true

Monoethylsilianetriol is 
a form


http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/scdocs/doc/ans_ej948_Choline_stabilised_orthosilic_acid_op_Updated_en.pdf?ssbinary=true  Silicon sources include oats, barley, & white wheat, rice, milk
 

silica E551 & dimethlpolysiloxane is added to foods as
anti-caking & anti-foaming agent

 

microcrystalline cellulose is put in some medicines &
vitamins



Has low levels of arsenic, lead, mercury, & cadmium


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080924142414AAJhRLI

 

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/silicon-dioxide-in-food.html

 

Most multivitamin or combination supplement products I've
come across use silicon dioxide (or silica, SiO2) as an excipient. Recent
research has shown that silicon dioxide nanoparticles (size 1-1000nm) can be
cytotoxic (i.e. kill mammalian cells) but I'm not sure as to whether
"larger" silica particles have this property. What is unclear to me
is whether the silicon dioxide used as
 excipients in nutritional supplement
products are formulated in larger pieces (which would not be expected to be absorbed
by the GI tract) or if they are indeed being added as nanoparticles instead
(which could potentially be much more harmful).





















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The content is what I was trying to find out. There never used to be

silica added to supplements. Unless I'm misunderstanding part of the Morgellans research points to silicone. You'd have to check out the co''s ingredient source.

Kathy



What is put into the nano, is another story.



So to me, its content...not so much the form.



Lizzie



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