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I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one block
away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at all afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make sure there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. Kathy |
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> My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going
> from the frying pan into the fire? It seems like this would be a bad thing (living inside of a metal container), but I really don't have any experience with this. I do know that we've had some ES folks living in mobile homes... Marc |
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I did it for a few months last year, and may do so again this year. I
don't think I felt worse. Mind you, it was parked on a farm, away from the road's power lines, the only electricity in it was an extension cord to charge the battery (and DC when the battery ran, I kept away from the hotspots from the pump and furnace motor, the lights and radio where non-problematic), and the area was low in RF (0 to .1 or .2 mw/m2 at most). I would certainly check out the area before hand. Apart from the crappy insulation of the thin walls, I generally enjoyed it. This leads me to a degaussing question, but perhaps for another post.. R. --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going > > from the frying pan into the fire? > > It seems like this would be a bad thing (living inside of a metal > container), but I really don't have any experience with this. I > do know that we've had some ES folks living in mobile homes... > > Marc > |
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Hi, Kathy,
Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, the mcs would seemmore of an issue than es. My 2 cents, Diane --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote: From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one block away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at all afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make sure there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. Kathy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Not to infringe on a comment not directed at me, but I have trouble
with some chemicals (when they put a new carpet in at the store I worked at years ago, that was horrible) - but how old is the mobile home you're looking at? Mine is over twenty years old, which I think is time enough for it to be plenty outgassed. I can't say I noticed problems with fumes after an airing it (except for the unfortunate remnants of 2 dryer sheets and something scented left in a cabinet by the previous owners, a misguided gesture, I'm sure). R. --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: > > Hi, Kathy, > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, the mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > My 2 cents, > Diane > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one block > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at all > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make sure > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] |
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Hi Diane,
I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements. So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly. Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house? Kathy --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: > > Hi, Kathy, > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, the mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > My 2 cents, > Diane > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one ... [show rest of quote] block
> away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at all > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make sure > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] |
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Hi R,
There are two mobile home parks in this town (for mature folk) with various trailers. Anything I could possibly afford likely would be old. I would definitly steer clear of any new carpet anywhere I might move and be on the look out for any other synthetic odors. Is this harder to do for a trailer? Kathy --- In [hidden email], "rticleone" <rticleone@...> wrote: > > Not to infringe on a comment not directed at me, but I have trouble > with some chemicals (when they put a new carpet in at the store I > worked at years ago, that was horrible) - but how old is the mobile > home you're looking at? Mine is over twenty years old, which I think > is time enough for it to be plenty outgassed. I can't say I noticed > problems with fumes after an airing it (except for the unfortunate > remnants of 2 dryer sheets and something scented left in a cabinet by > the previous owners, a misguided gesture, I'm sure). > > R. > > --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote: > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, the > mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > > > My 2 cents, > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> wrote: > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > > To: [hidden email] > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one ... [show rest of quote] block
> > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at all > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make sure > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ... [show rest of quote] |
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Hi Marc,
Thanks for your input. I will put some extra energy into trying to find something other than a trailer/mobile home. It could be disasterous to sign a lease and then find I couldn't live there! Kathy --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going > > from the frying pan into the fire? > > It seems like this would be a bad thing (living inside of a metal > container), but I really don't have any experience with this. I > do know that we've had some ES folks living in mobile homes... > > Marc > |
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Hi, Kathy,
My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I understand that you aremost likely talking about "mobile homes" rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall problems. I remember reading that1 or 2 ES people here grounded their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) andI was interested in the idea at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This would not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the case. Mobile homes need to be skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse as a whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try to have a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would not rule out living there since you do not have mcs. Hope this helps somewhat, Diane --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote: From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM Hi Diane, I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements. So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly. Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house? Kathy --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > Hi, Kathy, > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, the mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > My 2 cents, > Diane > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one ... [show rest of quote] block
> away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at all > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make sure > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi again, Kathy,
My son mentioned Essiac Herbs for cancer to me (he wanted me to take this since I am at higher risk for cancer, not because I have been dxed with it). I am sorry to hear you had breast cancer! Glad to hear you are in recovery now, tho. Is Essiac the herbal treatment you are on? I wish you the best; you've had alot to deal with! Diane --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote: From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM Hi Diane, I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements. So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly. Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house? Kathy --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > Hi, Kathy, > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, the mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > My 2 cents, > Diane > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one ... [show rest of quote] block
> away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at all > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make sure > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi again, Kathy,
I did not see your post previous which states you would have to sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own trailer! Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay, soon. Diane --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM Hi, Kathy, My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I understand that you aremost likely talking about "mobile homes" rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall problems. I remember reading that1 or 2 ES people here grounded their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) andI was interested in the idea at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This would not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the case. Mobile homes need to be skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse as a whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use on the basisof their being less expensive to keep costs down and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try to have a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would not rule out living there since youdo not have mcs. Hope this helps somewhat, Diane --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com> wrote: From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM Hi Diane, I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements. So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly. Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house? Kathy --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > Hi, Kathy, > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, the mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > My 2 cents, > Diane > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one ... [show rest of quote] block
> away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at all > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make sure > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Well, I guess it depends on the trailer itself. Mine has, of course,
some fake "wood" paneling inside, as well as some real, solid wood, and also thinner wood. The floor is linoleum, in quite good shape considering its age. All the upholstery is, I'm quite certain, a blend with at least some synthetic fiber in it, likely chosen at the time of manufacture for cost and durability. I can't say it smelled chemically to me after over two decades of airing out! You'd be very hard pressed to find an RV without synthetic material in it (or a house for that matter!) due to the nature of trailers (lightweight, portable, yet still livable). However, new trailers are notorious for formaldehyde and other such nasties from the new materials, so better old than new! Be sure to sniff around and check for mold/mustiness/water damage. You might want to consider the addition of certain houseplants - not only would they add some life to the often muted color scheme old RVs used (picture a lot of beige and brown, ha ha), but as a safeguard to filter oxygenate the air. NASA ran some study on the plants and here are the results: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/02/air-filtering-plants-indoors-air-quality-benzen-formaldehyde.php One of my dream-homes in a mobile format is the "Mini Home", it's about three hundred square feet, basically a trailer, but they've really gone all out and built it from healthy materials, low-no VOC everything, it's gorgeous inside, but as with most new pre-fabricated structures these days, it hasn't come down in cost - it's over a hundred thousand dollars. Mind you, I don't know how well they block RF, nor is it likely they've considered the wiring/solar power from an EMF standpoint (it'll take a while I think, before such considerations are integrated into designs from the beginning), but otherwise it seems fantastic! You can drool over it here: http://sustain.ca/ Anyway, sorry to go off topic for a second there. Be sure to check out the trailer thoroughly. If you have the option of carrying a meter or two with you, see what you find for RF, and also run the furnace, and the lights and the pump and check for magnetic fields. Mine has a few hotspots I don't like and I stay clear of them when things are running. I may still block them with mu-metal. Have fun! R. --- In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@...> wrote: > > Hi R, > > There are two mobile home parks in this town (for mature folk) with > various trailers. Anything I could possibly afford likely would be > old. I would definitly steer clear of any new carpet anywhere I might > move and be on the look out for any other synthetic odors. Is this > harder to do for a trailer? > > Kathy > > --- In [hidden email], "rticleone" <rticleone@> wrote: > > > > Not to infringe on a comment not directed at me, but I have trouble > > with some chemicals (when they put a new carpet in at the store I > > worked at years ago, that was horrible) - but how old is the mobile > > home you're looking at? Mine is over twenty years old, which I think > > is time enough for it to be plenty outgassed. I can't say I noticed > > problems with fumes after an airing it (except for the unfortunate > > remnants of 2 dryer sheets and something scented left in a cabinet > by > > the previous owners, a misguided gesture, I'm sure). > > > > R. > > > > --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand > > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here > > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, the > > mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > > > > > My 2 cents, > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> wrote: > > > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> > > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > > > To: [hidden email] > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one > block > > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can > at all > > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be > going > > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make > sure > > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there > are > > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ... [show rest of quote] |
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Hi Diane,
Thanks for the info. I was refering to mobile home living and since I live in Colorado there may be less of a mold issue. I had no idea though about the out gassing. I will keep all this in mind when I check it out, and also would ask about a 6 month lease if I had to sign one at all, which around here is likely. Kathy --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: > > Hi, Kathy, > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes" rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the idea at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This would not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the case. Mobile homes need to be > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse as a whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try to have a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would not rule out living there since you do not have mcs. > > Hope this helps somewhat, > Diane > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM > > > > > > > Hi Diane, > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements. > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly. > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house? > > Kathy > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, ... [show rest of quote] the
> mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > > > My 2 cents, > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote: > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one > block > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can ... [show rest of quote] at
> all > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be > going > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make > sure > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] |
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Hi Diane,
There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and have visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of thing as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems reasonable on that level. Kathy --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: > > Hi again, Kathy, > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have to sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own trailer! Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay, soon. > > Diane > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: > > From: Evie <evie15422@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM > > > > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but ... [show rest of quote] to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes" rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the idea at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This would not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the case. Mobile homes need to be > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse as a whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try to have a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would not rule out living there since you do not have mcs. > > Hope this helps somewhat, > Diane > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM > > Hi Diane, > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements. > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly. > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house? > > Kathy > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, ... [show rest of quote] the
> mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > > > My 2 cents, > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote: > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one > block > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can ... [show rest of quote] at
> all > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be > going > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make > sure > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] |
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Hi R,
I will follow my nose then when checking any potential mobile home (or any home for that matter). I can't unfortuantely afford a good meter though really wish I had one. I'll have to do the best I can and listen to my body and intuition. Thanks for the links. Right now I have a nasty cold and need to get away from the computer but I may look later. Kathy --- In [hidden email], "rticleone" <rticleone@...> wrote: > > Well, I guess it depends on the trailer itself. Mine has, of course, > some fake "wood" paneling inside, as well as some real, solid wood, > and also thinner wood. The floor is linoleum, in quite good shape > considering its age. All the upholstery is, I'm quite certain, a > blend with at least some synthetic fiber in it, likely chosen at the > time of manufacture for cost and durability. I can't say it smelled > chemically to me after over two decades of airing out! > > You'd be very hard pressed to find an RV without synthetic material in > it (or a house for that matter!) due to the nature of trailers > (lightweight, portable, yet still livable). However, new trailers are > notorious for formaldehyde and other such nasties from the new > materials, so better old than new! > > Be sure to sniff around and check for mold/mustiness/water damage. > > You might want to consider the addition of certain houseplants - not > only would they add some life to the often muted color scheme old RVs > used (picture a lot of beige and brown, ha ha), but as a safeguard to > filter oxygenate the air. NASA ran some study on the plants and here > are the results: > > http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/02/air-filtering-plants- indoors-air-quality-benzen-formaldehyde.php > > One of my dream-homes in a mobile format is the "Mini Home", it's > about three hundred square feet, basically a trailer, but they've > really gone all out and built it from healthy materials, low-no VOC > everything, it's gorgeous inside, but as with most new pre- fabricated > structures these days, it hasn't come down in cost - it's over a > hundred thousand dollars. Mind you, I don't know how well they block > RF, nor is it likely they've considered the wiring/solar power from an > EMF standpoint (it'll take a while I think, before such considerations > are integrated into designs from the beginning), but otherwise it > seems fantastic! > > You can drool over it here: > > http://sustain.ca/ > > Anyway, sorry to go off topic for a second there. Be sure to check > out the trailer thoroughly. If you have the option of carrying a > meter or two with you, see what you find for RF, and also run the > furnace, and the lights and the pump and check for magnetic fields. > Mine has a few hotspots I don't like and I stay clear of them when > things are running. I may still block them with mu-metal. Have > > R. > > --- In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@> wrote: > > > > Hi R, > > > > There are two mobile home parks in this town (for mature folk) with > > various trailers. Anything I could possibly afford likely would be > > old. I would definitly steer clear of any new carpet anywhere I might > > move and be on the look out for any other synthetic odors. Is this > > harder to do for a trailer? > > > > Kathy > > > > --- In [hidden email], "rticleone" <rticleone@> wrote: > > > > > > Not to infringe on a comment not directed at me, but I have trouble > > > with some chemicals (when they put a new carpet in at the store I > > > worked at years ago, that was horrible) - but how old is the mobile > > > home you're looking at? Mine is over twenty years old, which I think > > > is time enough for it to be plenty outgassed. I can't say I noticed > > > problems with fumes after an airing it (except for the unfortunate > > > remnants of 2 dryer sheets and something scented left in a cabinet > > by > > > the previous owners, a misguided gesture, I'm sure). > > > > > > R. > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can > > > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here > > > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, the > > > mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > > > > > > > My 2 cents, > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> wrote: > > > > > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> > > > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > > > > To: [hidden email] > > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just ... [show rest of quote] one
> > block > > > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can > > at all > > > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > > > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > > > > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be > > going > > > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make > > sure > > > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there > > are > > > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > > > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > ... [show rest of quote] |
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Hi Diane,
I have heard of the Essiac tea but it is not one of the many things I am using. I do drink Pau'd Arco tea. I HAVE had a lot to deal with. The traditional treatment Doctors use with cancer scare me far more than cancer itself though so steering clear of them and their advise helps me immensely. The tumour was small, just 7mm so I caught it early. I did find a holistic Doctor who ran a nutrient profile on me and found 4 things which were significantly low, three of which correspond with cancer. Glutithione, Vitamin D and Selenium, also I was low in B12. So I am focusing on getting these levels up, plus taking a number of things, including Bromilin, Curcumin, Calcium d Glucarate and I threw out the *#"@@*%* number 7 plastic bottles I used for decades to hold reverse osmosis water from the natural food store. They were advertised as safe and non-leaching but the lasted research shows they leach bisphenol-A which is a potent carcinagen. I would love to sue!!! But even thinking about that causes stress so I of course won't unless I can get in on a class action suit. That and the cell phone towers infuriate me if I think about it. Best to shrug my shoulders and be happy that I am at least informed. I also drink a lot of carrot juice and some beet, celery and lemon juice all fresh squeezed and I do other things as well. Thanks for your well wishes. Kathy --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: > > Hi again, Kathy, > > My son mentioned Essiac Herbs for cancer to me (he wanted me to take this since I am at higher risk for cancer, not because I have been dxed with it). I am sorry to hear you had breast cancer! Glad to hear you are in recovery now, tho. Is Essiac the herbal treatment you are on? > > I wish you the best; you've had alot to deal with! > Diane > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM > > > > > > > Hi Diane, > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements. > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly. > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house? > > Kathy > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, ... [show rest of quote] the
> mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > > > My 2 cents, > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote: > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one > block > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can ... [show rest of quote] at
> all > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be > going > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make > sure > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] |
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Hi, Kathy,
Sounds like it could work for you then! (Take --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote: From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 7:19 PM Hi Diane, There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and have visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of thing as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems reasonable on that level. Kathy --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > Hi again, Kathy, > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have to sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own trailer! Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay, soon. > > Diane > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > From: Evie <evie15422@. ..> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM > > > > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but ... [show rest of quote] to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes" rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the idea at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This would not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the case. Mobile homes need to be > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse as a whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try to have a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would not rule out living there since you do not have mcs. > > Hope this helps somewhat, > Diane > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM > > Hi Diane, > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements. > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly. > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house? > > Kathy > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, ... [show rest of quote] the
> mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > > > My 2 cents, > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote: > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one > block > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can ... [show rest of quote] at
> all > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be > going > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make > sure > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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GRRRRR... Don't know why but I have been having problems with my emails flying off unfinished, double posting....
As I was writing... lol Take your mcs friend with you when you look at mobile home rentals--she will sniff it out for you and tell you if there are any potential problems! lol And good luck; I hope it works out for you. Diane --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote: From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 7:19 PM Hi Diane, There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and have visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of thing as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems reasonable on that level. Kathy --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > Hi again, Kathy, > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have to sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own trailer! Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay, soon. > > Diane > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > From: Evie <evie15422@. ..> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM > > > > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but ... [show rest of quote] to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes" rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the idea at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This would not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the case. Mobile homes need to be > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse as a whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try to have a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would not rule out living there since you do not have mcs. > > Hope this helps somewhat, > Diane > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM > > Hi Diane, > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements. > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly. > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house? > > Kathy > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, ... [show rest of quote] the
> mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > > > My 2 cents, > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote: > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one > block > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can ... [show rest of quote] at
> all > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be > going > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make > sure > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one & could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni
--- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote: From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM Hi Diane, There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and have visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of thing as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems reasonable on that level. Kathy --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > Hi again, Kathy, > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have to sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own trailer! Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay, soon. > > Diane > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > From: Evie <evie15422@. ..> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM > > > > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but ... [show rest of quote] to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes" rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the idea at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This would not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the case. Mobile homes need to be > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse as a whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try to have a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would not rule out living there since you do not have mcs. > > Hope this helps somewhat, > Diane > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM > > Hi Diane, > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements. > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly. > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house? > > Kathy > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others here > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, ... [show rest of quote] the
> mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > > > My 2 cents, > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote: > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one > block > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can ... [show rest of quote] at
> all > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be > going > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make > sure > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Loni,
I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't know if the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know the one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be better. Kathy --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one & could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote: > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM > > > > > > > Hi Diane, > > There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am > considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra > funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and ... [show rest of quote] have
> visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing > types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of thing > as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems > reasonable on that level. > > Kathy > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > Hi again, Kathy, > > > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have to > sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own > Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too > risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay, soon. > > > > Diane > > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > From: Evie <evie15422@ ..> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but > to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived > successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I > understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes" > rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and ... [show rest of quote] overall
> problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded > their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the idea > at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living > in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs > and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as > expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant > outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have > significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This would > not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the > case. Mobile homes need to be > > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse as a > whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use > on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down > and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home > park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try to have > a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would not > rule out living there since you do not have mcs. > > > > Hope this helps somewhat, > > Diane > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> wrote: > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM > > > > Hi Diane, > > > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately > > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a > > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was > > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor > > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements. > > > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh > > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just > > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly. > > > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house? > > > > Kathy > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, Kathy, > > > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand > > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others ... [show rest of quote] here
> > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So, > the > > mcs would seem more of an issue than es. > > > > > > My 2 cents, > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> > > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home? > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just ... [show rest of quote] one
> > block > > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can > at > > all > > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it > > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54). > > > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be > > going > > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make > > sure > > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there > are > > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the > > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna. > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ... [show rest of quote] |
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