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Living in a Mobile Home?

spiralwindintrees
I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one block
away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at all
afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).

My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going
from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make sure
there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are
and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.

Kathy

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Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

Marc Martin
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> My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going
> from the frying pan into the fire?

It seems like this would be a bad thing (living inside of a metal
container), but I really don't have any experience with this. I
do know that we've had some ES folks living in mobile homes...

Marc

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Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

R. Ticle
I did it for a few months last year, and may do so again this year. I
don't think I felt worse. Mind you, it was parked on a farm, away
from the road's power lines, the only electricity in it was an
extension cord to charge the battery (and DC when the battery ran, I
kept away from the hotspots from the pump and furnace motor, the
lights and radio where non-problematic), and the area was low in RF (0
to .1 or .2 mw/m2 at most). I would certainly check out the area
before hand. Apart from the crappy insulation of the thin walls, I
generally enjoyed it.  

This leads me to a degaussing question, but perhaps for another post..

R.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
going
> > from the frying pan into the fire?
>
> It seems like this would be a bad thing (living inside of a metal
> container), but I really don't have any experience with this. I
> do know that we've had some ES folks living in mobile homes...
>
> Marc
>

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Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

evie15422
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Hi, Kathy,
 
Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So, the mcs would seemmore of an issue than es.
 
My 2 cents,
Diane
 


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM






I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one block
away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at all
afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).

My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going
from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make sure
there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are
and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.

Kathy

















     

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Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

R. Ticle
Not to infringe on a comment not directed at me, but I have trouble
with some chemicals (when they put a new carpet in at the store I
worked at years ago, that was horrible) - but how old is the mobile
home you're looking at? Mine is over twenty years old, which I think
is time enough for it to be plenty outgassed. I can't say I noticed
problems with fumes after an airing it (except for the unfortunate
remnants of 2 dryer sheets and something scented left in a cabinet by
the previous owners, a misguided gesture, I'm sure).

R.

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Kathy,
>  
> Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So, the
mcs would seem more of an issue than es.

>  
> My 2 cents,
> Diane
>  
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote:
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> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
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> I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one block
> away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at all
> afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
>
> My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be going
> from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make sure
> there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are
> and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
>
> Kathy
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Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

spiralwindintrees
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Hi Diane,

I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.

So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.

Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?

Kathy


--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Kathy,
>  
> Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So, the
mcs would seem more of an issue than es.

>  
> My 2 cents,
> Diane
>  
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
>
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> I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
block
> away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at
all
> afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
>
> My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
going
> from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
sure

> there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are
> and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
>
> Kathy
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Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

spiralwindintrees
In reply to this post by R. Ticle
Hi R,

There are two mobile home parks in this town (for mature folk) with
various trailers. Anything I could possibly afford likely would be
old. I would definitly steer clear of any new carpet anywhere I might
move and be on the look out for any other synthetic odors. Is this
harder to do for a trailer?

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], "rticleone" <rticleone@...> wrote:
>
> Not to infringe on a comment not directed at me, but I have trouble
> with some chemicals (when they put a new carpet in at the store I
> worked at years ago, that was horrible) - but how old is the mobile
> home you're looking at? Mine is over twenty years old, which I think
> is time enough for it to be plenty outgassed. I can't say I noticed
> problems with fumes after an airing it (except for the unfortunate
> remnants of 2 dryer sheets and something scented left in a cabinet
by

> the previous owners, a misguided gesture, I'm sure).
>
> R.
>
> --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Kathy,
> >  
> > Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
> living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
> who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So, the
> mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> >  
> > My 2 cents,
> > Diane
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> wrote:
> >
> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@>
> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
block
> > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can
at all
> > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> >
> > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
going
> > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
sure
> > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there
are

> > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> >
> > Kathy
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Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

spiralwindintrees
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Hi Marc,

Thanks for your input. I will put some extra energy into trying to
find something other than a trailer/mobile home. It could be
disasterous to sign a lease and then find I couldn't live there!

Kathy

 
--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
going
> > from the frying pan into the fire?
>
> It seems like this would be a bad thing (living inside of a metal
> container), but I really don't have any experience with this. I
> do know that we've had some ES folks living in mobile homes...
>
> Marc
>

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evie15422
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Hi, Kathy,
 
My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams).  I understand that you aremost likely talking about "mobile homes" rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall problems.  I remember reading that1 or 2 ES people here grounded their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) andI was interested in the idea at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living in one.  My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant outgassing and I have mcs.  Older RVs and mobile homes have significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule.  This would not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the case.  Mobile homes need to be
skirted well to keep out critters.  And yes, they are worse as a whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home park temporarily without signing a long term lease.  Also try to have a back up plan incase you don't do so well there.  But I would not rule out living there since you do not have mcs.   
 
Hope this helps somewhat,
Diane

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM






Hi Diane,

I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.

So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.

Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?

Kathy

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
>
> Hi, Kathy,
>  
> Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So, the
mcs would seem more of an issue than es.

>  
> My 2 cents,
> Diane
>  
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
block
> away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at
all
> afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
>
> My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
going
> from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
sure

> there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are
> and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
>
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evie15422
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Hi again, Kathy,
 
My son mentioned Essiac Herbs for cancer to me (he wanted me to take this since I am at higher risk for cancer, not because I have been dxed with it).  I am sorry to hear you had breast cancer!  Glad to hear you are in recovery now, tho.  Is Essiac the herbal treatment you are on? 
 
I wish you the best; you've had alot to deal with!
Diane
 
 
 


--- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM






Hi Diane,

I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.

So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.

Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?

Kathy

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
>
> Hi, Kathy,
>  
> Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So, the
mcs would seem more of an issue than es.

>  
> My 2 cents,
> Diane
>  
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
block
> away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at
all
> afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
>
> My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
going
> from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
sure

> there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are
> and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
>
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evie15422
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Hi again, Kathy,
 
I did not see your post previous which states you would have to sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own trailer!  Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too risky.  Good luck, dear.  Hope you find a great place to stay, soon.
 
Diane

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM






Hi, Kathy,
 
My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams).  I understand that you aremost likely talking about "mobile homes" rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall problems.  I remember reading that1 or 2 ES people here grounded their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) andI was interested in the idea at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living in one.  My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant outgassing and I have mcs.  Older RVs and mobile homes have significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule.  This would not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the case.  Mobile homes need to be
skirted well to keep out critters.  And yes, they are worse as a whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use on the basisof their being less expensive to keep costs down and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home park temporarily without signing a long term lease.  Also try to have a back up plan incase you don't do so well there.  But I would not rule out living there since youdo not have mcs.   
 
Hope this helps somewhat,
Diane

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM

Hi Diane,

I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.

So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.

Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?

Kathy

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
>
> Hi, Kathy,
>  
> Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So, the
mcs would seem more of an issue than es.

>  
> My 2 cents,
> Diane
>  
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
block
> away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can at
all
> afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
>
> My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
going
> from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
sure

> there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there are
> and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
>
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Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

R. Ticle
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Well, I guess it depends on the trailer itself. Mine has, of course,
some fake "wood" paneling inside, as well as some real, solid wood,
and also thinner wood. The floor is linoleum, in quite good shape
considering its age. All the upholstery is, I'm quite certain, a
blend with at least some synthetic fiber in it, likely chosen at the
time of manufacture for cost and durability. I can't say it smelled
chemically to me after over two decades of airing out!

You'd be very hard pressed to find an RV without synthetic material in
it (or a house for that matter!) due to the nature of trailers
(lightweight, portable, yet still livable). However, new trailers are
notorious for formaldehyde and other such nasties from the new
materials, so better old than new!

Be sure to sniff around and check for mold/mustiness/water damage.

You might want to consider the addition of certain houseplants - not
only would they add some life to the often muted color scheme old RVs
used (picture a lot of beige and brown, ha ha), but as a safeguard to
filter oxygenate the air. NASA ran some study on the plants and here
are the results:

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/02/air-filtering-plants-indoors-air-quality-benzen-formaldehyde.php

One of my dream-homes in a mobile format is the "Mini Home", it's
about three hundred square feet, basically a trailer, but they've
really gone all out and built it from healthy materials, low-no VOC
everything, it's gorgeous inside, but as with most new pre-fabricated
structures these days, it hasn't come down in cost - it's over a
hundred thousand dollars. Mind you, I don't know how well they block
RF, nor is it likely they've considered the wiring/solar power from an
EMF standpoint (it'll take a while I think, before such considerations
are integrated into designs from the beginning), but otherwise it
seems fantastic!

You can drool over it here:

http://sustain.ca/

Anyway, sorry to go off topic for a second there. Be sure to check
out the trailer thoroughly. If you have the option of carrying a
meter or two with you, see what you find for RF, and also run the
furnace, and the lights and the pump and check for magnetic fields.
Mine has a few hotspots I don't like and I stay clear of them when
things are running. I may still block them with mu-metal. Have fun!

R.

--- In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@...> wrote:

>
> Hi R,
>
> There are two mobile home parks in this town (for mature folk) with
> various trailers. Anything I could possibly afford likely would be
> old. I would definitly steer clear of any new carpet anywhere I might
> move and be on the look out for any other synthetic odors. Is this
> harder to do for a trailer?
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In [hidden email], "rticleone" <rticleone@> wrote:
> >
> > Not to infringe on a comment not directed at me, but I have trouble
> > with some chemicals (when they put a new carpet in at the store I
> > worked at years ago, that was horrible) - but how old is the mobile
> > home you're looking at? Mine is over twenty years old, which I think
> > is time enough for it to be plenty outgassed. I can't say I noticed
> > problems with fumes after an airing it (except for the unfortunate
> > remnants of 2 dryer sheets and something scented left in a cabinet
> by
> > the previous owners, a misguided gesture, I'm sure).
> >
> > R.
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Kathy,
> > >  
> > > Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
> > living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
> > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So, the
> > mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> > >  
> > > My 2 cents,
> > > Diane
> > >  
> > >
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> > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@>
> > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
> block
> > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can
> at all
> > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> > >
> > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
> going
> > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
> sure
> > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there
> are
> > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > >
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spiralwindintrees
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Hi Diane,

Thanks for the info. I was refering to mobile home living and since I
live in Colorado there may be less of a mold issue. I had no idea
though about the out gassing. I will keep all this in mind when I
check it out, and also would ask about a 6 month lease if I had to
sign one at all, which around here is likely.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Kathy,
>  
> My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but
to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams).  I
understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes"
rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall
problems.  I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded
their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the idea
at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living
in one.  My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs
and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as
expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
outgassing and I have mcs.  Older RVs and mobile homes have
significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule.  This would
not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the
case.  Mobile homes need to be
> skirted well to keep out critters.  And yes, they are worse as a
whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use
on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home
park temporarily without signing a long term lease.  Also try to have
a back up plan incase you don't do so well there.  But I would not
rule out living there since you do not have mcs.   

>  
> Hope this helps somewhat,
> Diane
>
> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
> sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
> milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
> diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
> surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
>
> So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
> fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
> made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
>
> Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Kathy,
> >  
> > Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
> living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
> who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So,
the

> mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> >  
> > My 2 cents,
> > Diane
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
> block
> > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can
at
> all
> > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> >
> > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
> going
> > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
> sure
> > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there
are

> > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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spiralwindintrees
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Hi Diane,

There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra
funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and have
visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing
types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of thing
as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
reasonable on that level.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> Hi again, Kathy,
>  
> I did not see your post previous which states you would have to
sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own trailer! 
Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too
risky.  Good luck, dear.  Hope you find a great place to stay, soon.

>  
> Diane
>
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> From: Evie <evie15422@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi, Kathy,
>  
> My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but
to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams).  I
understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes"
rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall
problems.  I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded
their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the idea
at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living
in one.  My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs
and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as
expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
outgassing and I have mcs.  Older RVs and mobile homes have
significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule.  This would
not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the
case.  Mobile homes need to be
> skirted well to keep out critters.  And yes, they are worse as a
whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use
on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home
park temporarily without signing a long term lease.  Also try to have
a back up plan incase you don't do so well there.  But I would not
rule out living there since you do not have mcs.   

>  
> Hope this helps somewhat,
> Diane
>
> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
> sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
> milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
> diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
> surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
>
> So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
> fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
> made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
>
> Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Kathy,
> >  
> > Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
> living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
> who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So,
the

> mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> >  
> > My 2 cents,
> > Diane
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
> block
> > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can
at
> all
> > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> >
> > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
> going
> > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
> sure
> > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there
are

> > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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spiralwindintrees
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Hi R,

I will follow my nose then when checking any potential mobile home
(or any home for that matter). I can't unfortuantely afford a good
meter though really wish I had one. I'll have to do the best I can
and listen to my body and intuition. Thanks for the links.
Right now I have a nasty cold and need to get away from the computer
but I may look later.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], "rticleone" <rticleone@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I guess it depends on the trailer itself. Mine has, of
course,
> some fake "wood" paneling inside, as well as some real, solid wood,
> and also thinner wood. The floor is linoleum, in quite good shape
> considering its age. All the upholstery is, I'm quite certain, a
> blend with at least some synthetic fiber in it, likely chosen at the
> time of manufacture for cost and durability. I can't say it smelled
> chemically to me after over two decades of airing out!
>
> You'd be very hard pressed to find an RV without synthetic material
in
> it (or a house for that matter!) due to the nature of trailers
> (lightweight, portable, yet still livable). However, new trailers
are
> notorious for formaldehyde and other such nasties from the new
> materials, so better old than new!
>
> Be sure to sniff around and check for mold/mustiness/water damage.
>
> You might want to consider the addition of certain houseplants - not
> only would they add some life to the often muted color scheme old
RVs
> used (picture a lot of beige and brown, ha ha), but as a safeguard
to
> filter oxygenate the air. NASA ran some study on the plants and
here
> are the results:
>
> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/02/air-filtering-plants-
indoors-air-quality-benzen-formaldehyde.php
>
> One of my dream-homes in a mobile format is the "Mini Home", it's
> about three hundred square feet, basically a trailer, but they've
> really gone all out and built it from healthy materials, low-no VOC
> everything, it's gorgeous inside, but as with most new pre-
fabricated
> structures these days, it hasn't come down in cost - it's over a
> hundred thousand dollars. Mind you, I don't know how well they
block
> RF, nor is it likely they've considered the wiring/solar power from
an
> EMF standpoint (it'll take a while I think, before such
considerations

> are integrated into designs from the beginning), but otherwise it
> seems fantastic!
>
> You can drool over it here:
>
> http://sustain.ca/
>
> Anyway, sorry to go off topic for a second there. Be sure to check
> out the trailer thoroughly. If you have the option of carrying a
> meter or two with you, see what you find for RF, and also run the
> furnace, and the lights and the pump and check for magnetic fields.
> Mine has a few hotspots I don't like and I stay clear of them when
> things are running. I may still block them with mu-metal. Have
fun!
>
> R.
>
> --- In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi R,
> >
> > There are two mobile home parks in this town (for mature folk)
with
> > various trailers. Anything I could possibly afford likely would
be
> > old. I would definitly steer clear of any new carpet anywhere I
might
> > move and be on the look out for any other synthetic odors. Is
this
> > harder to do for a trailer?
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "rticleone" <rticleone@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Not to infringe on a comment not directed at me, but I have
trouble
> > > with some chemicals (when they put a new carpet in at the store
I
> > > worked at years ago, that was horrible) - but how old is the
mobile
> > > home you're looking at? Mine is over twenty years old, which I
think
> > > is time enough for it to be plenty outgassed. I can't say I
noticed
> > > problems with fumes after an airing it (except for the
unfortunate
> > > remnants of 2 dryer sheets and something scented left in a
cabinet

> > by
> > > the previous owners, a misguided gesture, I'm sure).
> > >
> > > R.
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > >  
> > > > Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can
stand
> > > living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others
here
> > > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. 
So, the

> > > mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> > > >  
> > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > Diane
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@>
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just
one
> > block
> > > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I
can
> > at all
> > > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where
it
> > > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> > > >
> > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I
be
> > going
> > > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to
make
> > sure
> > > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think
there
> > are
> > > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from
the

> > > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> > > >
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > >
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spiralwindintrees
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Hi Diane,

I have heard of the Essiac tea but it is not one of the many things I
am using. I do drink Pau'd Arco tea.

I HAVE had a lot to deal with. The traditional treatment Doctors use
with cancer scare me far more than cancer itself though so steering
clear of them and their advise helps me immensely. The tumour was
small, just 7mm so I caught it early.

I did find a holistic Doctor who ran a nutrient profile on me and
found 4 things which were significantly low, three of which
correspond with cancer. Glutithione, Vitamin D and Selenium, also I
was low in B12. So I am focusing on getting these levels up, plus
taking a number of things, including Bromilin, Curcumin, Calcium d
Glucarate and I threw out the *#"@@*%* number 7 plastic bottles I
used for decades to hold reverse osmosis water from the natural food
store. They were advertised as safe and non-leaching but the lasted
research shows they leach bisphenol-A which is a potent carcinagen. I
would love to sue!!! But even thinking about that causes stress so I
of course won't unless I can get in on a class action suit. That and
the cell phone towers infuriate me if I think about it. Best to shrug
my shoulders and be happy that I am at least informed.

I also drink a lot of carrot juice and some beet, celery and lemon
juice all fresh squeezed and I do other things as well. Thanks for
your well wishes.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> Hi again, Kathy,
>  
> My son mentioned Essiac Herbs for cancer to me (he wanted me to
take this since I am at higher risk for cancer, not because I have
been dxed with it).  I am sorry to hear you had breast cancer!  Glad
to hear you are in recovery now, tho.  Is Essiac the herbal treatment
you are on? 

>  
> I wish you the best; you've had alot to deal with!
> Diane
>  
>  
>  
>
>
> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
> sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
> milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
> diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
> surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
>
> So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
> fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
> made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
>
> Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Kathy,
> >  
> > Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
> living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
> who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So,
the

> mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> >  
> > My 2 cents,
> > Diane
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
> block
> > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can
at
> all
> > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> >
> > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
> going
> > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
> sure
> > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there
are

> > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hi, Kathy,
 
Sounds like it could work for you then!  (Take

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 7:19 PM






Hi Diane,

There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra
funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and have
visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing
types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of thing
as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
reasonable on that level.

Kathy

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
>
> Hi again, Kathy,
>  
> I did not see your post previous which states you would have to
sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own trailer! 
Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too
risky.  Good luck, dear.  Hope you find a great place to stay, soon.

>  
> Diane
>
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
>
> From: Evie <evie15422@. ..>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi, Kathy,
>  
> My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but
to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams).  I
understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes"
rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall
problems.  I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded
their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the idea
at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living
in one.  My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs
and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as
expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
outgassing and I have mcs.  Older RVs and mobile homes have
significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule.  This would
not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the
case.  Mobile homes need to be
> skirted well to keep out critters.  And yes, they are worse as a
whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use
on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home
park temporarily without signing a long term lease.  Also try to have
a back up plan incase you don't do so well there.  But I would not
rule out living there since you do not have mcs.   

>  
> Hope this helps somewhat,
> Diane
>
> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
> sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
> milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
> diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
> surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
>
> So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
> fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
> made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
>
> Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Kathy,
> >  
> > Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
> living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
> who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So,
the

> mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> >  
> > My 2 cents,
> > Diane
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
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> >
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> > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
> block
> > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can
at
> all
> > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> >
> > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
> going
> > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
> sure
> > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there
are

> > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
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evie15422
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GRRRRR...  Don't know why but I have been having problems with my emails flying off unfinished, double posting....
 
As I was writing...  lol
Take your mcs friend with you when you look at mobile home rentals--she will sniff it out for you and tell you if there are any potential problems! lol  And good luck; I hope it works out for you. 
 
Diane

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 7:19 PM






Hi Diane,

There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra
funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and have
visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing
types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of thing
as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
reasonable on that level.

Kathy

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
>
> Hi again, Kathy,
>  
> I did not see your post previous which states you would have to
sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own trailer! 
Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too
risky.  Good luck, dear.  Hope you find a great place to stay, soon.

>  
> Diane
>
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
>
> From: Evie <evie15422@. ..>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi, Kathy,
>  
> My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but
to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams).  I
understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes"
rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall
problems.  I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded
their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the idea
at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living
in one.  My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs
and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as
expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
outgassing and I have mcs.  Older RVs and mobile homes have
significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule.  This would
not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the
case.  Mobile homes need to be
> skirted well to keep out critters.  And yes, they are worse as a
whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use
on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home
park temporarily without signing a long term lease.  Also try to have
a back up plan incase you don't do so well there.  But I would not
rule out living there since you do not have mcs.   

>  
> Hope this helps somewhat,
> Diane
>
> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
> sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
> milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
> diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
> surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
>
> So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
> fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
> made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
>
> Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Kathy,
> >  
> > Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
> living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
> who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So,
the

> mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> >  
> > My 2 cents,
> > Diane
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
> block
> > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can
at
> all
> > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> >
> > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
> going
> > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
> sure
> > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there
are

> > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> >
> > Kathy
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Loni Rosser
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Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one & could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM






Hi Diane,

There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra
funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and have
visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing
types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of thing
as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
reasonable on that level.

Kathy

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
>
> Hi again, Kathy,
>  
> I did not see your post previous which states you would have to
sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own trailer! 
Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too
risky.  Good luck, dear.  Hope you find a great place to stay, soon.

>  
> Diane
>
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:
>
> From: Evie <evie15422@. ..>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi, Kathy,
>  
> My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but
to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams).  I
understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes"
rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and overall
problems.  I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded
their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the idea
at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of living
in one.  My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs
and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as
expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
outgassing and I have mcs.  Older RVs and mobile homes have
significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule.  This would
not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the
case.  Mobile homes need to be
> skirted well to keep out critters.  And yes, they are worse as a
whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for use
on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home
park temporarily without signing a long term lease.  Also try to have
a back up plan incase you don't do so well there.  But I would not
rule out living there since you do not have mcs.   

>  
> Hope this helps somewhat,
> Diane
>
> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
> sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
> milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
> diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
> surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
>
> So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
> fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
> made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
>
> Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Kathy,
> >  
> > Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
> living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others here
> who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So,
the

> mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> >  
> > My 2 cents,
> > Diane
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just one
> block
> > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can
at
> all
> > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where it
> > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> >
> > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I be
> going
> > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to make
> sure
> > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there
are

> > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from the
> > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> >
> > Kathy
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spiralwindintrees
Hi Loni,

I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't know if
the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know the
one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be better.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
>
> Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one &
could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni

>
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
> considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra
> funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and
have
> visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing
> types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of
thing

> as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
> reasonable on that level.
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > Hi again, Kathy,
> >  
> > I did not see your post previous which states you would have to
> sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own
trailer! 

> Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too
> risky.  Good luck, dear.  Hope you find a great place to stay, soon.
> >  
> > Diane
> >
> > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > From: Evie <evie15422@ ..>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi, Kathy,
> >  
> > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but
> to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
> successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams).  I
> understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes"
> rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and
overall
> problems.  I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded
> their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the
idea
> at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of
living
> in one.  My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs
> and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as
> expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
> outgassing and I have mcs.  Older RVs and mobile homes have
> significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule.  This would
> not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the
> case.  Mobile homes need to be
> > skirted well to keep out critters.  And yes, they are worse as a
> whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for
use
> on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
> and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home
> park temporarily without signing a long term lease.  Also try to
have
> a back up plan incase you don't do so well there.  But I would not
> rule out living there since you do not have mcs.   
> >  
> > Hope this helps somewhat,
> > Diane
> >
> > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
wrote:

> >
> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
> >
> > Hi Diane,
> >
> > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
> > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
> > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
> > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
> > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
> >
> > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
> > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
> > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
> >
> > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Kathy,
> > >  
> > > Sorry to hear your predicament.  :(  Are you sure you can stand
> > living in the RV from an MCS stand point?  I have heard others
here

> > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.  So,
> the
> > mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> > >  
> > > My 2 cents,
> > > Diane
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower just
one
> > block
> > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can
> at
> > all
> > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where
it
> > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> > >
> > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I
be
> > going
> > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to
make
> > sure
> > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there
> are
> > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from
the

> > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> > >
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