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Loni Rosser

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

Good Luck, Keep us posted. Loni

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 3:54 PM

Hi Loni,

I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't know if
the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know the
one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be better.

Kathy

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@... > wrote:
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> Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one &
could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni

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> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
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> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM
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> Hi Diane,
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> There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
> considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra
> funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and

have
> visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing
> types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of
thing

> as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
> reasonable on that level.
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > Hi again, Kathy,
> >
> > I did not see your post previous which states you would have to
> sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own

trailer!

> Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too
> risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay, soon.
> >
> > Diane
> >
> > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > From: Evie <evie15422@ ..>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
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> > Hi, Kathy,
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> > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but
> to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
> successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I
> understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes"
> rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and

overall
> problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded
> their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the
idea
> at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of
living
> in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs
> and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as
> expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
> outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have
> significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This would
> not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the
> case. Mobile homes need to be
> > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse as a
> whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for
use
> on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
> and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home
> park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try to
have
> a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would not
> rule out living there since you do not have mcs.
> >
> > Hope this helps somewhat,
> > Diane
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> > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
wrote:

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> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
> >
> > Hi Diane,
> >
> > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
> > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
> > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
> > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
> > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
> >
> > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
> > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
> > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
> >
> > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Kathy,
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand
> > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others

here

> > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So,
> the
> > mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
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> > > My 2 cents,
> > > Diane
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> > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
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> > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
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> > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where
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> > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
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> > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I
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> > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to
make
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> > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there
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the

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Cheryl Griffing-2

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

In reply to this post by spiralwindintrees

Hi to everyone,

I just wanted to mention that around here in the Los Angeles area where I live about 50% of all mobile home parks are built very close to power towers. Apparently the land there is purchased inexpensively due to it being a health hazard to live there. Here homes can be built right next to pwer towers. There is no legal requirement, such as 200 yards away, as I have read other areas have. This is such an outrage as these mobile homes are made of metal which makes the EMF condition even worse. Many of these are senior parks so when the people become ill there they just assume it is age-related. I have noticed a cluster of Alzheimers in tenants living closest to the power towers. Just wanted to share this with all of you as you may not know about this. Shocking, isn't it?

Cheryl
--- On Mon, 3/2/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 2:54 PM

Hi Loni,

I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't know if
the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know the
one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be better.

Kathy

spiralwindintrees

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

Thanks Cheryl for the info. I am going to google the addresses of
these parks this evening at www.antennasearch.com to see about cell
towers and anntennas and in the upcoming weeks go out there and see
about transmission lines. I know the one park is not close to any as
I have been there.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi to everyone,
>
> I just wanted to mention that around here in the Los Angeles area
where I live about 50% of all mobile home parks are built very close
to power towers. Apparently the land there is purchased inexpensively
due to it being a health hazard to live there. Here homes can be
built right next to pwer towers. There is no legal requirement, such
as 200 yards away, as I have read other areas have. This is such an
outrage as these mobile homes are made of metal which makes the EMF
condition even worse. Many of these are senior parks so when the
people become ill there they just assume it is age-related. I have
noticed a cluster of Alzheimers in tenants living closest to the
power towers. Just wanted to share this with all of you as you may
not know about this. Shocking, isn't it?

>
> Cheryl
> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 2:54 PM
>
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>
>
>
> Hi Loni,
>
> I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't know

if
> the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know the
> one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
> checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be
better.
>
> Kathy
>

R. Ticle

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

In reply to this post by spiralwindintrees

If it's worth mentioning, as it pertains to electricity, I certainly
don't think I'd want to live in a mobile home with AC power hooked up
to it! Not with all metal walls having AC coursing through them...

When I used my trailer, I ran it on battery (which was connected to a
farmhouse via a long extension cord to charge) and picked up no elec.
fields with a Trifield, only some magnetic in certain parts of the
floor/wall when the pump or forced air furnace ran.

In the trailer, be sure to look around well - I was shocked to see in
mine that the...I don't know what to call it, the "fusebox", or the
breaker-switch control with all the switches for the wiring was in the
bedroom under my bed! Ack!

I would not want any major powerlines near...well, any living space,
but especially not a trailer.

Luckily on battery I couldn't get any reading from this! But with an
AC hookup I'd imagine it could've been quite a problem.

(For the bed we removed the cheap metal framed supports and awful
plasticky mattresses and used four cement blocks and 2x4 wood to
support a lightweight wooden slatted frame with my foam mattress on top).

R.

In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Loni,
>
> I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't know if
> the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know the
> one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
> checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be better.
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> >
> > Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one &
> could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni
> >
> > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> wrote:
> >
> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM
> >
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> >
> > Hi Diane,
> >
> > There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
> > considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no extra
> > funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and
> have
> > visited with her several times and was not aware of any out gassing
> > types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of
> thing
> > as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
> > reasonable on that level.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi again, Kathy,
> > >
> > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have to
> > sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own
> trailer!
> > Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--too
> > risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay, soon.
> > >
> > > Diane
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Evie <evie15422@ ..>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, Kathy,
> > >
> > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't come, but
> > to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have lived
> > successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I
> > understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile homes"
> > rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and
> overall
> > problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here grounded
> > their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the
> idea
> > at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of
> living
> > in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer RVs
> > and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about as
> > expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
> > outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have
> > significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This would
> > not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often the
> > case. Mobile homes need to be
> > > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse as a
> > whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined for
> use
> > on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
> > and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile home
> > park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try to
> have
> > a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would not
> > rule out living there since you do not have mcs.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps somewhat,
> > > Diane
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
> > >
> > > Hi Diane,
> > >
> > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
> > > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
> > > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
> > > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
> > > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
> > >
> > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
> > > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
> > > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
> > >
> > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand
> > > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others
> here
> > > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them. So,
> > the
> > > mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> > > >
> > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > Diane
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
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> one
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> > > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I can
> > at
> > > all
> > > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where
> it
> > > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> > > >
> > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I
> be
> > > going
> > > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to
> make
> > > sure
> > > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think there
> > are
> > > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away from
> the
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spiralwindintrees

Re: Essiac

In reply to this post by spiralwindintrees

Hi Diane,

I'm confident the energy exercises you gave a link for will be
helpful. I am getting over a bad cold and it wasn't until I began
doing some Jin Shinn Jyutsu that I had any improvement. My sinuses
were so raw I couldn't stop sneezing and my eyes were constantly
watering. I did a 'hold' for sinuses while taking a short nap and
when I got up was about 90% better! I was very impressed and
continued doing more. Today I feel so so much better. I've been using
Jinn Shinn for years and it's possible it is the only reason I am
still here. It might be helpful for ES if anyone wants to try it. I
love it because it is so gentle. I use a book called 'The Touch of
Healing' by Alice Burmeister. Happy to be doing the 'thumping'
and 'cross-crawling' and other exercises now too.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> I have heard of the Essiac tea but it is not one of the many things
I
> am using. I do drink Pau'd Arco tea.
>
> I HAVE had a lot to deal with. The traditional treatment Doctors
use

> with cancer scare me far more than cancer itself though so steering
> clear of them and their advise helps me immensely. The tumour was
> small, just 7mm so I caught it early.
>
> I did find a holistic Doctor who ran a nutrient profile on me and
> found 4 things which were significantly low, three of which
> correspond with cancer. Glutithione, Vitamin D and Selenium, also I
> was low in B12. So I am focusing on getting these levels up, plus
> taking a number of things, including Bromilin, Curcumin, Calcium d
> Glucarate and I threw out the *#"@@*%* number 7 plastic bottles I
> used for decades to hold reverse osmosis water from the natural

food
> store. They were advertised as safe and non-leaching but the lasted
> research shows they leach bisphenol-A which is a potent carcinagen.
I
> would love to sue!!! But even thinking about that causes stress so
I
> of course won't unless I can get in on a class action suit. That
and
> the cell phone towers infuriate me if I think about it. Best to
shrug

> my shoulders and be happy that I am at least informed.
>
> I also drink a lot of carrot juice and some beet, celery and lemon
> juice all fresh squeezed and I do other things as well. Thanks for
> your well wishes.
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi again, Kathy,
> >
> > My son mentioned Essiac Herbs for cancer to me (he wanted me to
> take this since I am at higher risk for cancer, not because I have
> been dxed with it). I am sorry to hear you had breast cancer!

Glad
> to hear you are in recovery now, tho. Is Essiac the herbal
treatment

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> > I wish you the best; you've had alot to deal with!
> > Diane
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> > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> wrote:
> >
> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
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> > Hi Diane,
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> > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
> > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
> > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
> > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
> > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
> >
> > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
> > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
> > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
> >
> > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Kathy,
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand
> > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others

here

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Loni Rosser

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

In reply to this post by Cheryl Griffing-2

Yes it is an outrage!

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 4:04 PM

Hi to everyone,

I just wanted to mention that around here in the Los Angeles area where I live about 50% of all mobile home parks are built very close to power towers. Apparently the land there is purchased inexpensively due to it being a health hazard to live there. Here homes can be built right next to pwer towers. There is no legal requirement, such as 200 yards away, as I have read other areas have. This is such an outrage as these mobile homes are made of metal which makes the EMF condition even worse. Many of these are senior parks so when the people become ill there they just assume it is age-related. I have noticed a cluster of Alzheimers in tenants living closest to the power towers. Just wanted to share this with all of you as you may not know about this. Shocking, isn't it?

Cheryl
--- On Mon, 3/2/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@juno. com>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 2:54 PM

Hi Loni,

I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't know if
the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know the
one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be better.

Kathy

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spiralwindintrees

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

In reply to this post by R. Ticle

Hi R,

Oh my God!! Fuse breaker box under the bed!! I'm starting to wonder
if I might be better off staying here one block from a cell phone
tower than trying to move into a manufactured home park. At least I
know everything else I'm dealing with here. But I'm wondering too
that there seems to be some oonfusion here between RV's or mobile
homes that really move around and the manufactured type mobile home
that is meant to be hauled to a site and then left there. The latter
is what I am considering. Hope there are less problems with them.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], "rticleone" <rticleone@...> wrote:
>
> If it's worth mentioning, as it pertains to electricity, I certainly
> don't think I'd want to live in a mobile home with AC power hooked
up
> to it! Not with all metal walls having AC coursing through them...
>
> When I used my trailer, I ran it on battery (which was connected to
a
> farmhouse via a long extension cord to charge) and picked up no
elec.
> fields with a Trifield, only some magnetic in certain parts of the
> floor/wall when the pump or forced air furnace ran.
>
> In the trailer, be sure to look around well - I was shocked to see
in
> mine that the...I don't know what to call it, the "fusebox", or the
> breaker-switch control with all the switches for the wiring was in
the

> bedroom under my bed! Ack!
>
> I would not want any major powerlines near...well, any living space,
> but especially not a trailer.
>
> Luckily on battery I couldn't get any reading from this! But with an
> AC hookup I'd imagine it could've been quite a problem.
>
> (For the bed we removed the cheap metal framed supports and awful
> plasticky mattresses and used four cement blocks and 2x4 wood to
> support a lightweight wooden slatted frame with my foam mattress on

top).
>
> R.
>
>
> In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Loni,
> >
> > I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't
know if
> > the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know
the
> > one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
> > checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be
better.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one
&

> > could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@>
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Diane,
> > >
> > > There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
> > > considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no

extra
> > > funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and
> > have
> > > visited with her several times and was not aware of any out
gassing

> > > types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of
> > thing
> > > as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
> > > reasonable on that level.
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi again, Kathy,
> > > >
> > > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have

to
> > > sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own
> > trailer!
> > > Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--
too
> > > risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay,
soon.

> > > >
> > > > Diane
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Evie <evie15422@ ..>
> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > >
> > > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't

come, but
> > > to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have
lived
> > > successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I
> > > understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile
homes"
> > > rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and
> > overall
> > > problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here
grounded
> > > their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the
> > idea
> > > at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of
> > living
> > > in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer
RVs
> > > and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about
as
> > > expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
> > > outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have
> > > significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This
would
> > > not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often
the
> > > case. Mobile homes need to be
> > > > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse
as a
> > > whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined
for
> > use
> > > on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
> > > and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile
home
> > > park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try
to
> > have
> > > a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would
not
> > > rule out living there since you do not have mcs.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps somewhat,
> > > > Diane
> > > >
> > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno.
com>

> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
> > > >
> > > > Hi Diane,
> > > >
> > > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be

moderately
> > > > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably
a
> > > > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that
was
> > > > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A
minor
> > > > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
> > > >
> > > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver
mesh
> > > > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that
just
> > > > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
> > > >
> > > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a
house?
> > > >
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can
stand
> > > > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard
others
> > here
> > > > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.
So,
> > > the
> > > > mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> > > > >
> > > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > > Diane
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
wrote:

> > > > >
> > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > > > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower

just
> > one
> > > > block
> > > > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I
can
> > > at
> > > > all
> > > > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors
where
> > it
> > > > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> > > > >
> > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would
I
> > be
> > > > going
> > > > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to
> > make
> > > > sure
> > > > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think
there
> > > are
> > > > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away
from

> > the
> > > > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
> > > > >
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>

R. Ticle

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

Hey Kathy,

What I'm talking about is a mobile-home, as you described it -
something meant to be hauled with a vehicle to a site, which is what
mine is.

Yes, the box under the bed just made me shake my head in disbelief. I
was lucky to run on battery power! I once thought about plugging the
trailer directly into the AC to see what would happen, but decided
against it. ;)

I don't know what to say! There are a lot of potential pros and cons
and unknowns to consider. I don't know if it's possible for you (or
if such a place exists close to you), but these days the only area I'd
like to put a mobile home of any sort if I'm living in it is somewhere
rural - less likelihood of cellphone towers and powerlines, though
checking is still important.

It could be a stretch, but you can try looking for organic farmers who
would let you rent a spot of unused land (or if you're able to garden,
perhaps a quarter acre?). Some are willing to listen. I have checked
out five places in the last few years, and had some success at them.
One farmer I just talked to, in his late sixties, seemed amazed at all
this EMF info. He said he never had a good feeling about living
really close to powerlines, but beyond that intuitive suspicion, he
was pretty much unaware - he was very receptive, too.

Again, though, 2 meters, one for RF and one for other EMF, are very
useful and important for scoping out the place...

R.

--- In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@...> wrote:

>
> Hi R,
>
> Oh my God!! Fuse breaker box under the bed!! I'm starting to wonder
> if I might be better off staying here one block from a cell phone
> tower than trying to move into a manufactured home park. At least I
> know everything else I'm dealing with here. But I'm wondering too
> that there seems to be some oonfusion here between RV's or mobile
> homes that really move around and the manufactured type mobile home
> that is meant to be hauled to a site and then left there. The latter
> is what I am considering. Hope there are less problems with them.
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In [hidden email], "rticleone" <rticleone@> wrote:
> >
> > If it's worth mentioning, as it pertains to electricity, I certainly
> > don't think I'd want to live in a mobile home with AC power hooked
> up
> > to it! Not with all metal walls having AC coursing through them...
> >
> > When I used my trailer, I ran it on battery (which was connected to
> a
> > farmhouse via a long extension cord to charge) and picked up no
> elec.
> > fields with a Trifield, only some magnetic in certain parts of the
> > floor/wall when the pump or forced air furnace ran.
> >
> > In the trailer, be sure to look around well - I was shocked to see
> in
> > mine that the...I don't know what to call it, the "fusebox", or the
> > breaker-switch control with all the switches for the wiring was in
> the
> > bedroom under my bed! Ack!
> >
> > I would not want any major powerlines near...well, any living space,
> > but especially not a trailer.
> >
> > Luckily on battery I couldn't get any reading from this! But with an
> > AC hookup I'd imagine it could've been quite a problem.
> >
> > (For the bed we removed the cheap metal framed supports and awful
> > plasticky mattresses and used four cement blocks and 2x4 wood to
> > support a lightweight wooden slatted frame with my foam mattress on
> top).
> >
> > R.
> >
> >
> > In [hidden email], "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Loni,
> > >
> > > I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't
> know if
> > > the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know
> the
> > > one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
> > > checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be
> better.
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one
> &
> > > could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@>
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Diane,
> > > >
> > > > There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
> > > > considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no
> extra
> > > > funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and
> > > have
> > > > visited with her several times and was not aware of any out
> gassing
> > > > types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of
> > > thing
> > > > as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
> > > > reasonable on that level.
> > > >
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi again, Kathy,
> > > > >
> > > > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have
> to
> > > > sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own
> > > trailer!
> > > > Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--
> too
> > > > risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay,
> soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > Diane
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Evie <evie15422@ ..>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > > >
> > > > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't
> come, but
> > > > to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have
> lived
> > > > successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I
> > > > understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile
> homes"
> > > > rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and
> > > overall
> > > > problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here
> grounded
> > > > their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the
> > > idea
> > > > at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of
> > > living
> > > > in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer
> RVs
> > > > and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about
> as
> > > > expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
> > > > outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have
> > > > significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This
> would
> > > > not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often
> the
> > > > case. Mobile homes need to be
> > > > > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse
> as a
> > > > whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined
> for
> > > use
> > > > on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
> > > > and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile
> home
> > > > park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try
> to
> > > have
> > > > a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would
> not
> > > > rule out living there since you do not have mcs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps somewhat,
> > > > > Diane
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno.
> com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Diane,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be
> moderately
> > > > > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably
> a
> > > > > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that
> was
> > > > > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A
> minor
> > > > > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
> > > > >
> > > > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver
> mesh
> > > > > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that
> just
> > > > > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a
> house?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can
> stand
> > > > > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard
> others
> > > here
> > > > > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.
> So,
> > > > the
> > > > > mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > > > Diane
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > > > > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower
> just
> > > one
> > > > > block
> > > > > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I
> can
> > > > at
> > > > > all
> > > > > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors
> where
> > > it
> > > > > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would
> I
> > > be
> > > > > going
> > > > > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to
> > > make
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think
> there
> > > > are
> > > > > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away
> from
> > > the
> > > > > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kathy
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Loni Rosser

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

In reply to this post by spiralwindintrees

Kathy, I, too, live eye shot to about 7 anntennas on 2 towers. No idea about my ES when I bought this house just a little over a year ago. I am now looking in to tinting for all of my windows to try and block the radiation. Ialso considered the RV parks (not mobile home but I think they are similar.) but the underground wiring & the electrical boxes plus cell towers near were not any better for me.

Loni

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 5:55 PM

Hi R,

Oh my God!! Fuse breaker box under the bed!! I'm starting to wonder
if I might be better off staying here one block from a cell phone
tower than trying to move into a manufactured home park. At least I
know everything else I'm dealing with here. But I'm wondering too
that there seems to be some oonfusion here between RV's or mobile
homes that really move around and the manufactured type mobile home
that is meant to be hauled to a site and then left there. The latter
is what I am considering. Hope there are less problems with them.

Kathy

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "rticleone" <rticleone@. ..> wrote:
>
> If it's worth mentioning, as it pertains to electricity, I certainly
> don't think I'd want to live in a mobile home with AC power hooked
up
> to it! Not with all metal walls having AC coursing through them...
>
> When I used my trailer, I ran it on battery (which was connected to
a
> farmhouse via a long extension cord to charge) and picked up no
elec.
> fields with a Trifield, only some magnetic in certain parts of the
> floor/wall when the pump or forced air furnace ran.
>
> In the trailer, be sure to look around well - I was shocked to see
in
> mine that the...I don't know what to call it, the "fusebox", or the
> breaker-switch control with all the switches for the wiring was in
the

top).
>
> R.
>
>
> In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Loni,
> >
> > I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't
know if
> > the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know
the
> > one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
> > checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be
better.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one
&

> > could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ >
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Diane,
> > >
> > > There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
> > > considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no

extra
> > > funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and
> > have
> > > visited with her several times and was not aware of any out
gassing

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Loni Rosser

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

In reply to this post by R. Ticle

What meters do you have & do you think they are sensitive enough to give a good reading? Loni

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, rticleone <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: rticleone <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 6:15 PM

Hey Kathy,

What I'm talking about is a mobile-home, as you described it -
something meant to be hauled with a vehicle to a site, which is what
mine is.

Yes, the box under the bed just made me shake my head in disbelief. I
was lucky to run on battery power! I once thought about plugging the
trailer directly into the AC to see what would happen, but decided
against it. ;)

I don't know what to say! There are a lot of potential pros and cons
and unknowns to consider. I don't know if it's possible for you (or
if such a place exists close to you), but these days the only area I'd
like to put a mobile home of any sort if I'm living in it is somewhere
rural - less likelihood of cellphone towers and powerlines, though
checking is still important.

It could be a stretch, but you can try looking for organic farmers who
would let you rent a spot of unused land (or if you're able to garden,
perhaps a quarter acre?). Some are willing to listen. I have checked
out five places in the last few years, and had some success at them.
One farmer I just talked to, in his late sixties, seemed amazed at all
this EMF info. He said he never had a good feeling about living
really close to powerlines, but beyond that intuitive suspicion, he
was pretty much unaware - he was very receptive, too.

Again, though, 2 meters, one for RF and one for other EMF, are very
useful and important for scoping out the place...

R.

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@ ...> wrote:

>
> Hi R,
>
> Oh my God!! Fuse breaker box under the bed!! I'm starting to wonder
> if I might be better off staying here one block from a cell phone
> tower than trying to move into a manufactured home park. At least I
> know everything else I'm dealing with here. But I'm wondering too
> that there seems to be some oonfusion here between RV's or mobile
> homes that really move around and the manufactured type mobile home
> that is meant to be hauled to a site and then left there. The latter
> is what I am considering. Hope there are less problems with them.
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "rticleone" <rticleone@> wrote:
> >
> > If it's worth mentioning, as it pertains to electricity, I certainly
> > don't think I'd want to live in a mobile home with AC power hooked
> up
> > to it! Not with all metal walls having AC coursing through them...
> >
> > When I used my trailer, I ran it on battery (which was connected to
> a
> > farmhouse via a long extension cord to charge) and picked up no
> elec.
> > fields with a Trifield, only some magnetic in certain parts of the
> > floor/wall when the pump or forced air furnace ran.
> >
> > In the trailer, be sure to look around well - I was shocked to see
> in
> > mine that the...I don't know what to call it, the "fusebox", or the
> > breaker-switch control with all the switches for the wiring was in
> the
> > bedroom under my bed! Ack!
> >
> > I would not want any major powerlines near...well, any living space,
> > but especially not a trailer.
> >
> > Luckily on battery I couldn't get any reading from this! But with an
> > AC hookup I'd imagine it could've been quite a problem.
> >
> > (For the bed we removed the cheap metal framed supports and awful
> > plasticky mattresses and used four cement blocks and 2x4 wood to
> > support a lightweight wooden slatted frame with my foam mattress on
> top).
> >
> > R.
> >
> >
> > In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Loni,
> > >
> > > I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't
> know if
> > > the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know
> the
> > > one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
> > > checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be
> better.
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one
> &
> > > could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ >
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Diane,
> > > >
> > > > There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
> > > > considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no
> extra
> > > > funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and
> > > have
> > > > visited with her several times and was not aware of any out
> gassing
> > > > types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of
> > > thing
> > > > as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
> > > > reasonable on that level.
> > > >
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi again, Kathy,
> > > > >
> > > > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have
> to
> > > > sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own
> > > trailer!
> > > > Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--
> too
> > > > risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay,
> soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > Diane
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Evie <evie15422@ ..>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > > >
> > > > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't
> come, but
> > > > to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have
> lived
> > > > successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I
> > > > understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile
> homes"
> > > > rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and
> > > overall
> > > > problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here
> grounded
> > > > their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the
> > > idea
> > > > at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of
> > > living
> > > > in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer
> RVs
> > > > and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about
> as
> > > > expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
> > > > outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have
> > > > significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This
> would
> > > > not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often
> the
> > > > case. Mobile homes need to be
> > > > > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse
> as a
> > > > whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined
> for
> > > use
> > > > on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
> > > > and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile
> home
> > > > park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try
> to
> > > have
> > > > a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would
> not
> > > > rule out living there since you do not have mcs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps somewhat,
> > > > > Diane
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno.
> com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Diane,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be
> moderately
> > > > > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably
> a
> > > > > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that
> was
> > > > > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A
> minor
> > > > > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
> > > > >
> > > > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver
> mesh
> > > > > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that
> just
> > > > > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a
> house?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can
> stand
> > > > > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard
> others
> > > here
> > > > > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.
> So,
> > > > the
> > > > > mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > > > Diane
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > > > > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower
> just
> > > one
> > > > > block
> > > > > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I
> can
> > > > at
> > > > > all
> > > > > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors
> where
> > > it
> > > > > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would
> I
> > > be
> > > > > going
> > > > > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to
> > > make
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think
> there
> > > > are
> > > > > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away
> from
> > > the
> > > > > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kathy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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R. Ticle

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

For electric and magnetic I use the Trifield 100 XE. There's some
debate about the accuracy of this meter - some say it reads higher
than true, though if I recall, Bill Bruno likes it because it takes
into account higher frequencies for it's magnetic readings - I think
that's what he said, anyway. No matter, it's what I'm used to using
and how I gauge things right now.

For RF, I use two Gigahertz Solutions meters - one with a range of 800
MHz to 2.4 or 2.5 GHz, the other from 2.4 GHz to 6.0 GHz, which covers
the most common ambient RF from towers, WiFi, etc.

I'm still thinking of getting a cheap AM radio for a quick and dirty
checker for powerline noise.

Unfortunately the Trifield should be called a Duo-Field - while good
for most people's needs for magnetic and electric, its RF mode is, I
find, quite useless for ambient readings; it isn't very sensitive.
The only time I made the needle on it bounce was by holding it
directly in front of a WiFi router doing a heavy file transfer!

R.

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
>
> What meters do you have & do you think they are sensitive enough to
give a good reading? Loni

>
> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, rticleone <rticleone@...> wrote:
>
> From: rticleone <rticleone@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 6:15 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Kathy,
>
> What I'm talking about is a mobile-home, as you described it -
> something meant to be hauled with a vehicle to a site, which is what
> mine is.
>
> Yes, the box under the bed just made me shake my head in disbelief. I
> was lucky to run on battery power! I once thought about plugging the
> trailer directly into the AC to see what would happen, but decided
> against it. ;)
>
> I don't know what to say! There are a lot of potential pros and cons
> and unknowns to consider. I don't know if it's possible for you (or
> if such a place exists close to you), but these days the only area I'd
> like to put a mobile home of any sort if I'm living in it is somewhere
> rural - less likelihood of cellphone towers and powerlines, though
> checking is still important.
>
> It could be a stretch, but you can try looking for organic farmers who
> would let you rent a spot of unused land (or if you're able to garden,
> perhaps a quarter acre?). Some are willing to listen. I have checked
> out five places in the last few years, and had some success at them.
> One farmer I just talked to, in his late sixties, seemed amazed at all
> this EMF info. He said he never had a good feeling about living
> really close to powerlines, but beyond that intuitive suspicion, he
> was pretty much unaware - he was very receptive, too.
>
> Again, though, 2 meters, one for RF and one for other EMF, are very
> useful and important for scoping out the place...
>
> R.
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@ ...>

wrote:

> >
> > Hi R,
> >
> > Oh my God!! Fuse breaker box under the bed!! I'm starting to wonder
> > if I might be better off staying here one block from a cell phone
> > tower than trying to move into a manufactured home park. At least I
> > know everything else I'm dealing with here. But I'm wondering too
> > that there seems to be some oonfusion here between RV's or mobile
> > homes that really move around and the manufactured type mobile home
> > that is meant to be hauled to a site and then left there. The latter
> > is what I am considering. Hope there are less problems with them.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "rticleone" <rticleone@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If it's worth mentioning, as it pertains to electricity, I certainly
> > > don't think I'd want to live in a mobile home with AC power hooked
> > up
> > > to it! Not with all metal walls having AC coursing through them...
> > >
> > > When I used my trailer, I ran it on battery (which was connected to
> > a
> > > farmhouse via a long extension cord to charge) and picked up no
> > elec.
> > > fields with a Trifield, only some magnetic in certain parts of the
> > > floor/wall when the pump or forced air furnace ran.
> > >
> > > In the trailer, be sure to look around well - I was shocked to see
> > in
> > > mine that the...I don't know what to call it, the "fusebox", or the
> > > breaker-switch control with all the switches for the wiring was in
> > the
> > > bedroom under my bed! Ack!
> > >
> > > I would not want any major powerlines near...well, any living space,
> > > but especially not a trailer.
> > >
> > > Luckily on battery I couldn't get any reading from this! But with an
> > > AC hookup I'd imagine it could've been quite a problem.
> > >
> > > (For the bed we removed the cheap metal framed supports and awful
> > > plasticky mattresses and used four cement blocks and 2x4 wood to
> > > support a lightweight wooden slatted frame with my foam mattress on
> > top).
> > >
> > > R.
> > >
> > >
> > > In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Loni,
> > > >
> > > > I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't
> > know if
> > > > the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know
> > the
> > > > one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
> > > > checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be
> > better.
> > > >
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one
> > &
> > > > could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ >
> > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Diane,
> > > > >
> > > > > There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
> > > > > considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no
> > extra
> > > > > funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and
> > > > have
> > > > > visited with her several times and was not aware of any out
> > gassing
> > > > > types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of
> > > > thing
> > > > > as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
> > > > > reasonable on that level.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi again, Kathy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have
> > to
> > > > > sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own
> > > > trailer!
> > > > > Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--
> > too
> > > > > risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay,
> > soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Diane
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Evie <evie15422@ ..>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't
> > come, but
> > > > > to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have
> > lived
> > > > > successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I
> > > > > understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile
> > homes"
> > > > > rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and
> > > > overall
> > > > > problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here
> > grounded
> > > > > their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the
> > > > idea
> > > > > at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of
> > > > living
> > > > > in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer
> > RVs
> > > > > and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about
> > as
> > > > > expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
> > > > > outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have
> > > > > significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This
> > would
> > > > > not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often
> > the
> > > > > case. Mobile homes need to be
> > > > > > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse
> > as a
> > > > > whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined
> > for
> > > > use
> > > > > on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
> > > > > and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile
> > home
> > > > > park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try
> > to
> > > > have
> > > > > a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would
> > not
> > > > > rule out living there since you do not have mcs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this helps somewhat,
> > > > > > Diane
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno.
> > com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> > > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Diane,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be
> > moderately
> > > > > > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably
> > a
> > > > > > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that
> > was
> > > > > > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A
> > minor
> > > > > > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver
> > mesh
> > > > > > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that
> > just
> > > > > > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a
> > house?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kathy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can
> > stand
> > > > > > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard
> > others
> > > > here
> > > > > > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.
> > So,
> > > > > the
> > > > > > mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > > > > Diane
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> > > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > > > > > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
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> > > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower
> > just
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> > > > > > block
> > > > > > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I
> > can
> > > > > at
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors
> > where
> > > > it
> > > > > > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would
> > I
> > > > be
> > > > > > going
> > > > > > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to
> > > > make
> > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think
> > there
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
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evie15422

Re: Essiac

In reply to this post by spiralwindintrees

Thanks, Kathy,

I will look into the "Jinn Shinn", too! I have heard of it but have no idea what it is.

Thanks,
Diane

--- On Mon, 3/2/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Essiac
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 7:38 PM

Hi Diane,

I'm confident the energy exercises you gave a link for will be
helpful. I am getting over a bad cold and it wasn't until I began
doing some Jin Shinn Jyutsu that I had any improvement. My sinuses
were so raw I couldn't stop sneezing and my eyes were constantly
watering. I did a 'hold' for sinuses while taking a short nap and
when I got up was about 90% better! I was very impressed and
continued doing more. Today I feel so so much better. I've been using
Jinn Shinn for years and it's possible it is the only reason I am
still here. It might be helpful for ES if anyone wants to try it. I
love it because it is so gentle. I use a book called 'The Touch of
Healing' by Alice Burmeister. Happy to be doing the 'thumping'
and 'cross-crawling' and other exercises now too.

Kathy

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> I have heard of the Essiac tea but it is not one of the many things
I
> am using. I do drink Pau'd Arco tea.
>
> I HAVE had a lot to deal with. The traditional treatment Doctors
use

> my shoulders and be happy that I am at least informed.
>
> I also drink a lot of carrot juice and some beet, celery and lemon
> juice all fresh squeezed and I do other things as well. Thanks for
> your well wishes.
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi again, Kathy,
> >
> > My son mentioned Essiac Herbs for cancer to me (he wanted me to
> take this since I am at higher risk for cancer, not because I have
> been dxed with it). I am sorry to hear you had breast cancer!

Glad
> to hear you are in recovery now, tho. Is Essiac the herbal
treatment

> you are on?
> >
> > I wish you the best; you've had alot to deal with!
> > Diane
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> >
> > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ >
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Diane,
> >
> > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately
> > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a
> > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was
> > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor
> > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
> >
> > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh
> > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just
> > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
> >
> > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Kathy,
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can stand
> > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard others

here

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evie15422

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

In reply to this post by spiralwindintrees

Hi, Kathy,

Before you make up your mind, do you think you might be able to stay in your friend's mobile home at her park? Maybe you could even house swap for a week or so, so you could try it? Just a thought; some people would notmind going there, but you'd have to be the judge of that. ;) True that your rented mobile home would still be different, but it would at least allow you to see if there is any chance of it working. When I go to visit my aunt at her mobile home, I don't have es symptoms but I do have problems with mcs symptoms. My guess is that it could vary from mobile home tomobile home, tho. (Just as the wiring varies from house to house.) Aren't some mobile homes fiberglass instead of aluminum?

Also, I have a link which might (or might not) be helpful to you. It is for Share, Care, Prayer Ministries. I was in touch with Carolyn Gormanwho had worked with Dr. Rae's Dallas environmental clinic just before she went to work with Share, Care.... I am not sure what all they do (for me, she told me they could foot half the bill for expenses at Dr. Rae's clinic, if I could first find an es/mcs friendly home to move to--I have yet to do that and Dr. Rae feels I would not do well after the treatment if I return to my present home, so I was never able to go there.) You can Fax them, but I still don't see a phone number to call on the site! I talked by phone with Carolyn but I don't think I still have her number. She was very nice and really helpful re pesticides effects and es. She was moving full time to Colorado, tho I am not sure where there. If you can find her, however (perhaps you could fax Share Care and ask if they have a
number or email addy where you could reach her), she might have better ideas for places in Colorado that you could move to, as well as other helpful info. Just a thought.

http://www.sharecareprayer.org/index.html

Good luck,
Diane
--- On Mon, 3/2/09, spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: spiralwindintrees <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 7:55 PM

Hi R,

Oh my God!! Fuse breaker box under the bed!! I'm starting to wonder
if I might be better off staying here one block from a cell phone
tower than trying to move into a manufactured home park. At least I
know everything else I'm dealing with here. But I'm wondering too
that there seems to be some oonfusion here between RV's or mobile
homes that really move around and the manufactured type mobile home
that is meant to be hauled to a site and then left there. The latter
is what I am considering. Hope there are less problems with them.

Kathy

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "rticleone" <rticleone@. ..> wrote:
>
> If it's worth mentioning, as it pertains to electricity, I certainly
> don't think I'd want to live in a mobile home with AC power hooked
up
> to it! Not with all metal walls having AC coursing through them...
>
> When I used my trailer, I ran it on battery (which was connected to
a
> farmhouse via a long extension cord to charge) and picked up no
elec.
> fields with a Trifield, only some magnetic in certain parts of the
> floor/wall when the pump or forced air furnace ran.
>
> In the trailer, be sure to look around well - I was shocked to see
in
> mine that the...I don't know what to call it, the "fusebox", or the
> breaker-switch control with all the switches for the wiring was in
the

> > could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ >
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Diane,
> > >
> > > There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
> > > considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no

extra
> > > funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and
> > have
> > > visited with her several times and was not aware of any out
gassing

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spiralwindintrees

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

In reply to this post by Loni Rosser

Hi Loni,

One thing that seems to help a little is a silver mesh fabric hung over thewindow. But I do need to cover this with another piece of fabric on the inside of the room or it can make things worse due to the reflection. I am using a thin piece of synthetic fabric (something cheap I found at Walmart but it looks pretty good) and don't know if that makes a differece as compared to something say made from cotton. But I can tell the differece when I stand next to it. I also spend most of my time when home in a room on the other side of the building as there is then an extra wall between me and this tower and that too seems to help. There are towers in other directions but more like 1/2 mile away. Keep us up to date ir the tinting works.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:

>
> Kathy, I, too, live eye shot to about 7 anntennas on 2 towers. No idea about my ES when I bought this house just a little over a year ago. I am now looking in to tinting for all of my windows to try and block the radiation.I also considered the RV parks (not mobile home but I think they are similar.) but the underground wiring & the electrical boxes plus cell towers near were not any better for me.
>
> Loni
>
> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote:
>
> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 5:55 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi R,
>
> Oh my God!! Fuse breaker box under the bed!! I'm starting to wonder
> if I might be better off staying here one block from a cell phone
> tower than trying to move into a manufactured home park. At least I
> know everything else I'm dealing with here. But I'm wondering too
> that there seems to be some oonfusion here between RV's or mobile
> homes that really move around and the manufactured type mobile home
> that is meant to be hauled to a site and then left there. The latter
> is what I am considering. Hope there are less problems with them.
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "rticleone" <rticleone@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > If it's worth mentioning, as it pertains to electricity, I certainly
> > don't think I'd want to live in a mobile home with AC power hooked
> up
> > to it! Not with all metal walls having AC coursing through them...
> >
> > When I used my trailer, I ran it on battery (which was connected to
> a
> > farmhouse via a long extension cord to charge) and picked up no
> elec.
> > fields with a Trifield, only some magnetic in certain parts of the
> > floor/wall when the pump or forced air furnace ran.
> >
> > In the trailer, be sure to look around well - I was shocked to see
> in
> > mine that the...I don't know what to call it, the "fusebox", or the
> > breaker-switch control with all the switches for the wiring was in
> the
> > bedroom under my bed! Ack!
> >
> > I would not want any major powerlines near...well, any living space,
> > but especially not a trailer.
> >
> > Luckily on battery I couldn't get any reading from this! But with an
> > AC hookup I'd imagine it could've been quite a problem.
> >
> > (For the bed we removed the cheap metal framed supports and awful
> > plasticky mattresses and used four cement blocks and 2x4 wood to
> > support a lightweight wooden slatted frame with my foam mattress on
> top).
> >
> > R.
> >
> >
> > In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Loni,
> > >
> > > I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't
> know if
> > > the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know
> the
> > > one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
> > > checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be
> better.
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one
> &
> > > could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ >
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Diane,
> > > >
> > > > There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
> > > > considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no
> extra
> > > > funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and
> > > have
> > > > visited with her several times and was not aware of any out
> gassing
> > > > types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of
> > > thing
> > > > as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
> > > > reasonable on that level.
> > > >
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi again, Kathy,
> > > > >
> > > > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have
> to
> > > > sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own
> > > trailer!
> > > > Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--
> too
> > > > risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay,
> soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > Diane
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Evie <evie15422@ ..>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > > >
> > > > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't
> come, but
> > > > to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have
> lived
> > > > successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I
> > > > understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile
> homes"
> > > > rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and
> > > overall
> > > > problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here
> grounded
> > > > their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the
> > > idea
> > > > at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of
> > > living
> > > > in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer
> RVs
> > > > and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about
> as
> > > > expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
> > > > outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have
> > > > significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This
> would
> > > > not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often
> the
> > > > case. Mobile homes need to be
> > > > > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse
> as a
> > > > whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined
> for
> > > use
> > > > on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
> > > > and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile
> home
> > > > park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try
> to
> > > have
> > > > a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would
> not
> > > > rule out living there since you do not have mcs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps somewhat,
> > > > > Diane
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno.
> com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Diane,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be
> moderately
> > > > > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably
> a
> > > > > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that
> was
> > > > > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A
> minor
> > > > > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
> > > > >
> > > > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver
> mesh
> > > > > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that
> just
> > > > > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a
> house?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can
> stand
> > > > > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard
> others
> > > here
> > > > > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.
> So,
> > > > the
> > > > > mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > > > Diane
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > > > > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower
> just
> > > one
> > > > > block
> > > > > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I
> can
> > > > at
> > > > > all
> > > > > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors
> where
> > > it
> > > > > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would
> I
> > > be
> > > > > going
> > > > > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to
> > > make
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think
> there
> > > > are
> > > > > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away
> from
> > > the
> > > > > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kathy
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spiralwindintrees

Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

In reply to this post by evie15422

Hi Diane,

Thanks for the link, I don't know if it will be helpful or not but thanks. I don't think my friend (in the mobile home park) is real aware of ES situations. She is sensitive to any artificial oders though so I would be surprised if there is a problem in the trailer she has. I really don't want to alarm her by bringing up the subject of EMFs. She knows about the cell tower close to me but I don't want to go getting her all paranoid about where sheis at when I know she financailly can't do much else. She is happier and feeling much better where she is now than the last apt she rented, though that has a lot to do with privacy issues. Doing a swap for a week or even less wouldn't work for me even. Maybe just hanging out for a few hours and paying close attention to how I felt might give me clues though.

I don't know if some are made of fiberglass. Could be.

Kathy

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

>
> Hi, Kathy,
>
> Before you make up your mind, do you think you might be able to stay in your friend's mobile home at her park? Maybe you could even house swap for a week or so, so you could try it? Just a thought; some people would not mind going there, but you'd have to be the judge of that. ;) True that your rented mobile home would still be different, but it would at least allow you to see if there is any chance of it working. When I go to visit my aunt at her mobile home, I don't have es symptoms but I do have problems with mcs symptoms. My guess is that it could vary from mobile home to mobile home, tho. (Just as the wiring varies from house to house.) Aren't some mobile homes fiberglass instead of aluminum?
>
> Also, I have a link which might (or might not) be helpful to you. It is for Share, Care, Prayer Ministries. I was in touch with Carolyn Gorman who had worked with Dr. Rae's Dallas environmental clinic just before she went to work with Share, Care.... I am not sure what all they do (for me, she told me they could foot half the bill for expenses at Dr. Rae's clinic, if I could first find an es/mcs friendly home to move to--I have yetto do that and Dr. Rae feels I would not do well after the treatment if I return to my present home, so I was never able to go there.) You can Faxthem, but I still don't see a phone number to call on the site! I talked by phone with Carolyn but I don't think I still have her number. She was very nice and really helpful re pesticides effects and es. She was moving full time to Colorado, tho I am not sure where there. If you can find her, however (perhaps you could fax Share Care and ask if they have a
> number or email addy where you could reach her), she might have better ideas for places in Colorado that you could move to, as well as other helpful info. Just a thought.
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> http://www.sharecareprayer.org/index.html
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> Good luck,
> Diane
> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...> wrote:
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> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 7:55 PM
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> Hi R,
>
> Oh my God!! Fuse breaker box under the bed!! I'm starting to wonder
> if I might be better off staying here one block from a cell phone
> tower than trying to move into a manufactured home park. At least I
> know everything else I'm dealing with here. But I'm wondering too
> that there seems to be some oonfusion here between RV's or mobile
> homes that really move around and the manufactured type mobile home
> that is meant to be hauled to a site and then left there. The latter
> is what I am considering. Hope there are less problems with them.
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "rticleone" <rticleone@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > If it's worth mentioning, as it pertains to electricity, I certainly
> > don't think I'd want to live in a mobile home with AC power hooked
> up
> > to it! Not with all metal walls having AC coursing through them...
> >
> > When I used my trailer, I ran it on battery (which was connected to
> a
> > farmhouse via a long extension cord to charge) and picked up no
> elec.
> > fields with a Trifield, only some magnetic in certain parts of the
> > floor/wall when the pump or forced air furnace ran.
> >
> > In the trailer, be sure to look around well - I was shocked to see
> in
> > mine that the...I don't know what to call it, the "fusebox", or the
> > breaker-switch control with all the switches for the wiring was in
> the
> > bedroom under my bed! Ack!
> >
> > I would not want any major powerlines near...well, any living space,
> > but especially not a trailer.
> >
> > Luckily on battery I couldn't get any reading from this! But with an
> > AC hookup I'd imagine it could've been quite a problem.
> >
> > (For the bed we removed the cheap metal framed supports and awful
> > plasticky mattresses and used four cement blocks and 2x4 wood to
> > support a lightweight wooden slatted frame with my foam mattress on
> top).
> >
> > R.
> >
> >
> > In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "spiralwindintrees" <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Loni,
> > >
> > > I am checking out mobile home parks, not RV parks and I don't
> know if
> > > the electrical is any stronger there than anywhere else. I know
> the
> > > one park offers cable for TV, but don't believe it has WiFi. I am
> > > checking out parks for mature folks and seniors so this may be
> better.
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Isn't the electrical in the RV parks quite strong? I tried one
> &
> > > could not be there. They also have Wifi? Loni
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ >
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 5:19 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Diane,
> > > >
> > > > There are plenty of mobile homes to rent in the two parks I am
> > > > considering, I would not have to buy one at all (and have no
> extra
> > > > funds for something like that). I have a friend in one park and
> > > have
> > > > visited with her several times and was not aware of any out
> gassing
> > > > types of odors. My friend tends to be sensitive to this sort of
> > > thing
> > > > as well so at least the mobile home she ended up with seems
> > > > reasonable on that level.
> > > >
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi again, Kathy,
> > > > >
> > > > > I did not see your post previous which states you would have
> to
> > > > sign a contract and it sounds like you'd also need your own
> > > trailer!
> > > > Yes, under those conditions, it isn't likely to work for you--
> too
> > > > risky. Good luck, dear. Hope you find a great place to stay,
> soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > Diane
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Evie <evie15422@ ..>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:28 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > > >
> > > > > My post was in lieu of a better answer incase it didn't
> come, but
> > > > to encourage you that there HAVE been people here who have
> lived
> > > > successfully full time in metal trailers (like airstreams). I
> > > > understand that you are most likely talking about "mobile
> homes"
> > > > rather than RVs, but they are similar in material content and
> > > overall
> > > > problems. I remember reading that 1 or 2 ES people here
> grounded
> > > > their airstreams (2 to 3 years ago) and I was interested in the
> > > idea
> > > > at the time because I was also looking into the possibility of
> > > living
> > > > in one. My bigger problem in looking into this was that newer
> RVs
> > > > and mobile homes (I did look at both)--aside from being about
> as
> > > > expensive as a house (at least in my area)--had significant
> > > > outgassing and I have mcs. Older RVs and mobile homes have
> > > > significant mold +/or rodent issues, as a general rule. This
> would
> > > > not necessarily be the case 100% of the time, but it is often
> the
> > > > case. Mobile homes need to be
> > > > > skirted well to keep out critters. And yes, they are worse
> as a
> > > > whole than a house would be, as all materials are determined
> for
> > > use
> > > > on the basis of their being less expensive to keep costs down
> > > > and lighter weight. If you can, try out living in the mobile
> home
> > > > park temporarily without signing a long term lease. Also try
> to
> > > have
> > > > a back up plan incase you don't do so well there. But I would
> not
> > > > rule out living there since you do not have mcs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps somewhat,
> > > > > Diane
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno.
> com>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>
> > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Diane,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be
> moderately
> > > > > sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably
> a
> > > > > milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that
> was
> > > > > diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A
> minor
> > > > > surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.
> > > > >
> > > > > So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver
> mesh
> > > > > fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that
> just
> > > > > made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a
> house?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, Kathy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry to hear your predicament. :( Are you sure you can
> stand
> > > > > living in the RV from an MCS stand point? I have heard
> others
> > > here
> > > > > who do live in aluminum trailers--I think they ground them.
> So,
> > > > the
> > > > > mcs would seem more of an issue than es.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > > > Diane
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> wrote:
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> > > > > > From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ ...>
> > > > > > Subject: [eSens] Living in a Mobile Home?
> > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am needing to move from here as there is a cell tower
> just
> > > one
> > > > > block
> > > > > > away plus the rent is going up once again. The only place I
> can
> > > > at
> > > > > all
> > > > > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors
> where
> > > it
> > > > > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would
> I
> > > be
> > > > > going
> > > > > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to
> > > make
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > there are no cell towers close to the park. I don't think
> there
> > > > are
> > > > > > and this park is located a bit on the edge of town away
> from
> > > the
> > > > > > downtown area where there are tons of towers and antenna.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kathy
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