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Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE

steve
My local utility sent someone out to check my EMF Levels in my apt, garage and surrounding area.
They actually checked out pretty good, according to him for an apt. they were very good.
Garage was .32. The only bad spots were a copper pipe running across the wall but when he put the device closer to the ceiling (under my bedroom) it dropped off.
Front Door was .36.
Living Room was .48
Kitchen was 1.24
Bedroom was .48
Dining Room was .80

The one item I own that he said was too high was the small air cleaner I use to drown out outside noises. This had read high also on my little $30 Cellsensor so that Meter was a good buy. Where it was located still showed a high level by my feet but it was OK by my head and body. Its amazing how much EMF that little cleaner throws off.
So, now I know it isn't so bad in here. Not going to try the stetzer filters, going to return the stetzerizer meter, and going to try some of those Quantum strips/outlets like I said I was. Seems to be the way to go I think.

Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise machine or something that can drown out outside noises so I can replace that air cleaner I'd love to hear about it.

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Re: Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE

Marc Martin
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> Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise machine or something that can
> drown out outside noises so I can replace that air cleaner I'd love to
> hear about it.

You can buy CDs (or download MP3s) of white noise (or "brown noise", which
sounds more like the ocean) and play them on a stereo system...

Marc

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steve
I don't have a stereo right now, I was considering downloading pink noise to itunes and out it on an iPod. I need to buy a good iPod speaker system though. Gotta research that ASAP.

Marc, what do you carry around with you for protection? I've been looking up things like purple plates/discs but those seem bizarre and earthcalm, Q Link etc. Any of thos work for you?

--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:12 PM
> > Now, if anyone knows of a good
> white noise machine or something that can
> > drown out outside noises so I can replace that air
> cleaner I'd love to
> > hear about it.
>
> You can buy CDs (or download MP3s) of white noise (or
> "brown noise", which
> sounds more like the ocean) and play them on a stereo
> system...
>
> Marc
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     [hidden email]
>
>
>

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Re: personal EMF protection

Marc Martin
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> Marc, what do you carry around with you for protection? I've been looking
> up things like purple plates/discs but those seem bizarre and earthcalm,
> Q Link etc. Any of thos work for you?

I've ordered more of these personal EMF protection products that I care
to remember, but as for the ones which have remained in my "important
to keep" list, there are only a few things:

- Quantum Companion
- Springlife Polarizer (smallest size)
- Mega-Chi pendant
- Personal Polarizer disc (cutcat.com sells these)

Also, with all the positive comments made about the Q-Link pendant
lately, I have been using this from time to time. It might help
a little.... (?)

I also use Tachyon armbands when AWAY from EMF for energy boosting.
I find these make my ES symptoms worse, but they are good for
taking a long walk outdoors.

Marc

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steve
Wow, thats a lot of stuff! If you could only use one, which one would you choose?

--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] personal EMF protection
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:39 PM
> > Marc, what do you carry around
> with you for protection? I've been looking
> > up things like purple plates/discs but those seem
> bizarre and earthcalm,
> > Q Link etc. Any of thos work for you?
>
> I've ordered more of these personal EMF protection products
> that I care
> to remember, but as for the ones which have remained in my
> "important
> to keep" list, there are only a few things:
>
>   - Quantum Companion
>   - Springlife Polarizer (smallest size)
>   - Mega-Chi pendant
>   - Personal Polarizer disc (cutcat.com sells these)
>
> Also, with all the positive comments made about the Q-Link
> pendant
> lately, I have been using this from time to time.  It
> might help
> a little.... (?)
>
> I also use Tachyon armbands when AWAY from EMF for energy
> boosting.
> I find these make my ES symptoms worse, but they are good
> for
> taking a long walk outdoors.
>
> Marc
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     [hidden email]
>
>
>

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Re: personal EMF protection

Marc Martin
Administrator
> Wow, thats a lot of stuff! If you could only use one, which one would you
> choose?

Well, it would have to be the Quantum Companion. In fact, I sometimes
carry TWO Quantum Companions with me (one in each pocket!). But the
others have their good points too -- for example, if I'm about to
come down with a cold, the Springlife Polarizer will help me overcome
it. Or if I'm trying to live on less sleep than I should, the Springlife
Polarizer will help make me feel rested in the morning in spite of that.
And if I need extra energy to walk the dog for miles, the Tachyon armband
and/or the Mega-Chi pendant are good for that. :-)

And in the house, I have a Quantum Pro permanently turned on, and also an
Earthcalm Home that I have on a timer to be on about 33% of the time.
Plus a couple of Quantum power conditioners -- one for my computer
monitor, and one by the bedroom oil-filled radiator during the winter
months.

But of course, like Charles says, the goal is to improve your health
to the point where you don't need any of that stuff. But it's
been slow-going, although I'm hopeful that rounds of Alpha Lipoic
Acid will lower my heavy metal load and make me less sensitive
(although I'm less sensitive than I used to be, I still have a
ways to go)

Marc

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steve
Looks like you have it figured out, which is good. I'll get there eventually.
I'll probably start off with the quantum companion if I feel a good effect from the quantum power strips and outlets.
For metal detox I'm going to start taking ALA, NAC, and a liquid combo of cilantro and chlorella, in addition to my usual assortments of supplements.

--- On Thu, 3/25/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] personal EMF protection
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 3:17 PM
> > Wow, thats a lot of stuff! If
> you could only use one, which one would you
> > choose?
>
> Well, it would have to be the Quantum Companion.  In
> fact, I sometimes
> carry TWO Quantum Companions with me (one in each
> pocket!).  But the
> others have their good points too -- for example, if I'm
> about to
> come down with a cold, the Springlife Polarizer will help
> me overcome
> it.  Or if I'm trying to live on less sleep than I
> should, the Springlife
> Polarizer will help make me feel rested in the morning in
> spite of that.
> And if I need extra energy to walk the dog for miles, the
> Tachyon armband
> and/or the Mega-Chi pendant are good for that.  :-)
>
> And in the house, I have a Quantum Pro permanently turned
> on, and also an
> Earthcalm Home that I have on a timer to be on about 33% of
> the time. 
> Plus a couple of Quantum power conditioners -- one for my
> computer
> monitor, and one by the bedroom oil-filled radiator during
> the winter
> months.
>
> But of course, like Charles says, the goal is to improve
> your health
> to the point where you don't need any of that stuff. 
> But it's
> been slow-going, although I'm hopeful that rounds of Alpha
> Lipoic
> Acid will lower my heavy metal load and make me less
> sensitive
> (although I'm less sensitive than I used to be, I still
> have a
> ways to go)
>
> Marc
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     [hidden email]
>
>
>

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Re: Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE

Jennie Wassenaar
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How did you get someone from the utility company to come out and check you EMF levels?

Thanks,

Jennie

 





________________________________
From: torch369 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 4:49:27 PM
Subject: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE

 
My local utility sent someone out to check my EMF Levels in my apt, garage and surrounding area.
They actually checked out pretty good, according to him for an apt. they were very good.
Garage was .32. The only bad spots were a copper pipe running across the wall but when he put the device closer to the ceiling (under my bedroom) it dropped off.
Front Door was .36.
Living Room was .48
Kitchen was 1.24
Bedroom was .48
Dining Room was .80

The one item I own that he said was too high was the small air cleaner I use to drown out outside noises. This had read high also on my little $30 Cellsensor so that Meter was a good buy. Where it was located still showed a high level by my feet but it was OK by my head and body. Its amazing how much EMF that little cleaner throws off.
So, now I know it isn't so bad in here. Not going to try the stetzer filters, going to return the stetzerizer meter, and going to try some of those Quantum strips/outlets like I said I was. Seems to be the way to go I think.

Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise machine or something that can drown out outside noises so I can replace that air cleaner I'd love to hear about it.


 

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steve
I just called and said I was concerned about EMF levels. They were very understanding (although they are installing smart meters so I guess their level of understanding has limits). They sent someone out to read my apt and outside the building. They are pretty good about this stuff-they check out mygas appliances for free every winter.

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:56 AM
> How did you get someone from the
> utility company to come out and check you EMF levels?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jennie
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: torch369 <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 4:49:27 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
>
>  
> My local utility sent someone out to check my EMF Levels in
> my apt, garage and surrounding area.
> They actually checked out pretty good, according to him for
> an apt. they were very good.
> Garage was .32. The only bad spots were a copper pipe
> running across the wall but when he put the device closer to
> the ceiling (under my bedroom) it dropped off.
> Front Door was .36.
> Living Room was .48
> Kitchen was 1.24
> Bedroom was .48
> Dining Room was .80
>
> The one item I own that he said was too high was the small
> air cleaner I use to drown out outside noises. This had read
> high also on my little $30 Cellsensor so that Meter was a
> good buy. Where it was located still showed a high level by
> my feet but it was OK by my head and body. Its amazing how
> much EMF that little cleaner throws off.
> So, now I know it isn't so bad in here. Not going to try
> the stetzer filters, going to return the stetzerizer meter,
> and going to try some of those Quantum strips/outlets like I
> said I was. Seems to be the way to go I think.
>
> Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise machine or
> something that can drown out outside noises so I can replace
> that air cleaner I'd love to hear about it.
>
>
>  
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     [hidden email]
>
>
>

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Re: Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE

BiBrun
0.3 milligauss is not terrible, but for someone who is sensitive
it's really not great, especially if there is dirty power on the line.

It would probably make sense to have a plumber put a
dielectric union or short piece of plastic ("pex") tubing
anywhere in that copper pipe. Or disconnect the loop it's
forming (could be a dishwasher or fridge with ice make doubly
grounded). Or, in some cases you can add a copper wire
connected to the pipe at both ends, and running along
the path that completes the loop. This is hard to explain
in words, but given a choice most of the AC current will go
through a small loop rather than a large one, if you can get
the small one really tiny (think twisted pair) it could be
fairly effective. But just breaking the loop is always most effective.

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> I just called and said I was concerned about EMF levels. They were very
> understanding (although they are installing smart meters so I guess their
> level of understanding has limits). They sent someone out to read my apt and
> outside the building. They are pretty good about this stuff-they check out
> my gas appliances for free every winter.
>
> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]<ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email] <ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:56 AM
>
> > How did you get someone from the
> > utility company to come out and check you EMF levels?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jennie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: torch369 <[hidden email] <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 4:49:27 PM
> > Subject: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
> >
> >
> > My local utility sent someone out to check my EMF Levels in
> > my apt, garage and surrounding area.
> > They actually checked out pretty good, according to him for
> > an apt. they were very good.
> > Garage was .32. The only bad spots were a copper pipe
> > running across the wall but when he put the device closer to
> > the ceiling (under my bedroom) it dropped off.
> > Front Door was .36.
> > Living Room was .48
> > Kitchen was 1.24
> > Bedroom was .48
> > Dining Room was .80
> >
> > The one item I own that he said was too high was the small
> > air cleaner I use to drown out outside noises. This had read
> > high also on my little $30 Cellsensor so that Meter was a
> > good buy. Where it was located still showed a high level by
> > my feet but it was OK by my head and body. Its amazing how
> > much EMF that little cleaner throws off.
> > So, now I know it isn't so bad in here. Not going to try
> > the stetzer filters, going to return the stetzerizer meter,
> > and going to try some of those Quantum strips/outlets like I
> > said I was. Seems to be the way to go I think.
> >
> > Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise machine or
> > something that can drown out outside noises so I can replace
> > that air cleaner I'd love to hear about it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > [hidden email]<eSens-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> >
> >
>  
>


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Re: Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE

BiBrun
And by the way, 1.24 in the kitchen sounds terrible.
Stetzer filters will not solve that (although reducing dirty
power in that situation is a good idea). Figure out the
cause of that. If it goes away with everything off (try the
lights first) then it's probably a wiring error. If you have
two switches controlling the lights, probably the white
neutral wires from two circuits are connected somewhere.
This is usually (but not always) easy to fix.

The power company guy ideally would have commented
on this...but their bible says anything under 1000 mGa is safe.

Bill

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 0.3 milligauss is not terrible, but for someone who is sensitive
> it's really not great, especially if there is dirty power on the line.
>
> It would probably make sense to have a plumber put a
> dielectric union or short piece of plastic ("pex") tubing
> anywhere in that copper pipe. Or disconnect the loop it's
> forming (could be a dishwasher or fridge with ice make doubly
> grounded). Or, in some cases you can add a copper wire
> connected to the pipe at both ends, and running along
> the path that completes the loop. This is hard to explain
> in words, but given a choice most of the AC current will go
> through a small loop rather than a large one, if you can get
> the small one really tiny (think twisted pair) it could be
> fairly effective. But just breaking the loop is always most effective.
>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I just called and said I was concerned about EMF levels. They were very
>> understanding (although they are installing smart meters so I guess their
>> level of understanding has limits). They sent someone out to read my aptand
>> outside the building. They are pretty good about this stuff-they check out
>> my gas appliances for free every winter.
>>
>> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]<ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email] <ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
>> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:56 AM
>>
>> > How did you get someone from the
>> > utility company to come out and check you EMF levels?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Jennie
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: torch369 <[hidden email] <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
>> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 4:49:27 PM
>> > Subject: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
>> >
>> >
>> > My local utility sent someone out to check my EMF Levels in
>> > my apt, garage and surrounding area.
>> > They actually checked out pretty good, according to him for
>> > an apt. they were very good.
>> > Garage was .32. The only bad spots were a copper pipe
>> > running across the wall but when he put the device closer to
>> > the ceiling (under my bedroom) it dropped off.
>> > Front Door was .36.
>> > Living Room was .48
>> > Kitchen was 1.24
>> > Bedroom was .48
>> > Dining Room was .80
>> >
>> > The one item I own that he said was too high was the small
>> > air cleaner I use to drown out outside noises. This had read
>> > high also on my little $30 Cellsensor so that Meter was a
>> > good buy. Where it was located still showed a high level by
>> > my feet but it was OK by my head and body. Its amazing how
>> > much EMF that little cleaner throws off.
>> > So, now I know it isn't so bad in here. Not going to try
>> > the stetzer filters, going to return the stetzerizer meter,
>> > and going to try some of those Quantum strips/outlets like I
>> > said I was. Seems to be the way to go I think.
>> >
>> > Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise machine or
>> > something that can drown out outside noises so I can replace
>> > that air cleaner I'd love to hear about it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> > [hidden email]<eSens-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>  
>>
>
>


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steve
In reply to this post by BiBrun
I live in an apartment building so I may not be able to do anything.

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 10:43 AM
> 0.3 milligauss is not terrible, but
> for someone who is sensitive
> it's really not great, especially if there is dirty power
> on the line.
>
> It would probably make sense to have a plumber put a
> dielectric union or short piece of plastic ("pex") tubing
> anywhere in that copper pipe.  Or disconnect the loop
> it's
> forming (could be a dishwasher or fridge with ice make
> doubly
> grounded).   Or, in some cases you can add a
> copper wire
> connected to the pipe at both ends, and running along
> the path that completes the loop.  This is hard to
> explain
> in words, but given a choice most of the AC current will
> go
> through a small loop rather than a large one, if you can
> get
> the small one really tiny (think twisted pair) it could be
> fairly effective.  But just breaking the loop is
> always most effective.
>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steve G <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I just called and said I was concerned about EMF
> levels. They were very
> > understanding (although they are installing smart
> meters so I guess their
> > level of understanding has limits). They sent someone
> out to read my apt and
> > outside the building. They are pretty good about this
> stuff-they check out
> > my gas appliances for free every winter.
> >
> > --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]<ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]
> <ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels
> checked by SDGE
> > > To: [hidden email]
> <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:56 AM
> >
> > > How did you get someone from the
> > > utility company to come out and check you EMF
> levels?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jennie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: torch369 <[hidden email]
> <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
> > > To: [hidden email]
> <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 4:49:27 PM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked
> by SDGE
> > >
> > >
> > > My local utility sent someone out to check my EMF
> Levels in
> > > my apt, garage and surrounding area.
> > > They actually checked out pretty good, according
> to him for
> > > an apt. they were very good.
> > > Garage was .32. The only bad spots were a copper
> pipe
> > > running across the wall but when he put the
> device closer to
> > > the ceiling (under my bedroom) it dropped off.
> > > Front Door was .36.
> > > Living Room was .48
> > > Kitchen was 1.24
> > > Bedroom was .48
> > > Dining Room was .80
> > >
> > > The one item I own that he said was too high was
> the small
> > > air cleaner I use to drown out outside noises.
> This had read
> > > high also on my little $30 Cellsensor so that
> Meter was a
> > > good buy. Where it was located still showed a
> high level by
> > > my feet but it was OK by my head and body. Its
> amazing how
> > > much EMF that little cleaner throws off.
> > > So, now I know it isn't so bad in here. Not going
> to try
> > > the stetzer filters, going to return the
> stetzerizer meter,
> > > and going to try some of those Quantum
> strips/outlets like I
> > > said I was. Seems to be the way to go I think.
> > >
> > > Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise
> machine or
> > > something that can drown out outside noises so I
> can replace
> > > that air cleaner I'd love to hear about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >     [hidden email]<eSens-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     [hidden email]
>
>
>

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steve
In reply to this post by BiBrun
He said it was from the fridge. The compressor was on when he did the reading. Also the microwave oven gives off emf even when its not on.
Would adding a good surge suppressor help with the fridge?

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 10:48 AM
> And by the way, 1.24 in the kitchen
> sounds terrible.
> Stetzer filters will not solve that (although reducing
> dirty
> power in that situation is a good idea).  Figure out
> the
> cause of that.  If it goes away with everything off
> (try the
> lights first) then it's probably a wiring error.  If
> you have
> two switches controlling the lights, probably the white
> neutral wires from two circuits are connected somewhere.
> This is usually (but not always) easy to fix.
>
> The power company guy ideally would have commented
> on this...but their bible says anything under 1000 mGa is
> safe.
>
> Bill
>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > 0.3 milligauss is not terrible, but for someone who is
> sensitive
> > it's really not great, especially if there is dirty
> power on the line.
> >
> > It would probably make sense to have a plumber put a
> > dielectric union or short piece of plastic ("pex")
> tubing
> > anywhere in that copper pipe.  Or disconnect the
> loop it's
> > forming (could be a dishwasher or fridge with ice make
> doubly
> > grounded).   Or, in some cases you can
> add a copper wire
> > connected to the pipe at both ends, and running along
> > the path that completes the loop.  This is hard
> to explain
> > in words, but given a choice most of the AC current
> will go
> > through a small loop rather than a large one, if you
> can get
> > the small one really tiny (think twisted pair) it
> could be
> > fairly effective.  But just breaking the loop is
> always most effective.
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steve G <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I just called and said I was concerned about EMF
> levels. They were very
> >> understanding (although they are installing smart
> meters so I guess their
> >> level of understanding has limits). They sent
> someone out to read my apt and
> >> outside the building. They are pretty good about
> this stuff-they check out
> >> my gas appliances for free every winter.
> >>
> >> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]<ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]
> <ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> >>
> >> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels
> checked by SDGE
> >> > To: [hidden email]
> <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:56 AM
> >>
> >> > How did you get someone from the
> >> > utility company to come out and check you EMF
> levels?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Jennie
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: torch369 <[hidden email]
> <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
> >> > To: [hidden email]
> <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 4:49:27 PM
> >> > Subject: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels
> checked by SDGE
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > My local utility sent someone out to check my
> EMF Levels in
> >> > my apt, garage and surrounding area.
> >> > They actually checked out pretty good,
> according to him for
> >> > an apt. they were very good.
> >> > Garage was .32. The only bad spots were a
> copper pipe
> >> > running across the wall but when he put the
> device closer to
> >> > the ceiling (under my bedroom) it dropped
> off.
> >> > Front Door was .36.
> >> > Living Room was .48
> >> > Kitchen was 1.24
> >> > Bedroom was .48
> >> > Dining Room was .80
> >> >
> >> > The one item I own that he said was too high
> was the small
> >> > air cleaner I use to drown out outside
> noises. This had read
> >> > high also on my little $30 Cellsensor so that
> Meter was a
> >> > good buy. Where it was located still showed a
> high level by
> >> > my feet but it was OK by my head and body.
> Its amazing how
> >> > much EMF that little cleaner throws off.
> >> > So, now I know it isn't so bad in here. Not
> going to try
> >> > the stetzer filters, going to return the
> stetzerizer meter,
> >> > and going to try some of those Quantum
> strips/outlets like I
> >> > said I was. Seems to be the way to go I
> think.
> >> >
> >> > Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise
> machine or
> >> > something that can drown out outside noises
> so I can replace
> >> > that air cleaner I'd love to hear about it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >     [hidden email]<eSens-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> 
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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>
>
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charles-4
If the microwave oven gives off emf even when its not on, than it is a
matter of grounding.

The electrical wiring is not grounded.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve G" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE


He said it was from the fridge. The compressor was on when he did the
reading. Also the microwave oven gives off emf even when its not on.
Would adding a good surge suppressor help with the fridge?

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 10:48 AM
> And by the way, 1.24 in the kitchen
> sounds terrible.
> Stetzer filters will not solve that (although reducing
> dirty
> power in that situation is a good idea). Figure out
> the
> cause of that. If it goes away with everything off
> (try the
> lights first) then it's probably a wiring error. If
> you have
> two switches controlling the lights, probably the white
> neutral wires from two circuits are connected somewhere.
> This is usually (but not always) easy to fix.
>
> The power company guy ideally would have commented
> on this...but their bible says anything under 1000 mGa is
> safe.
>
> Bill
>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > 0.3 milligauss is not terrible, but for someone who is
> sensitive
> > it's really not great, especially if there is dirty
> power on the line.
> >
> > It would probably make sense to have a plumber put a
> > dielectric union or short piece of plastic ("pex")
> tubing
> > anywhere in that copper pipe. Or disconnect the
> loop it's
> > forming (could be a dishwasher or fridge with ice make
> doubly
> > grounded). Or, in some cases you can
> add a copper wire
> > connected to the pipe at both ends, and running along
> > the path that completes the loop. This is hard
> to explain
> > in words, but given a choice most of the AC current
> will go
> > through a small loop rather than a large one, if you
> can get
> > the small one really tiny (think twisted pair) it
> could be
> > fairly effective. But just breaking the loop is
> always most effective.
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steve G <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I just called and said I was concerned about EMF
> levels. They were very
> >> understanding (although they are installing smart
> meters so I guess their
> >> level of understanding has limits). They sent
> someone out to read my apt and
> >> outside the building. They are pretty good about
> this stuff-they check out
> >> my gas appliances for free every winter.
> >>
> >> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Jennie Wassenaar
> >> <[hidden email]<ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]
> <ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> >>
> >> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels
> checked by SDGE
> >> > To: [hidden email]
> <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:56 AM
> >>
> >> > How did you get someone from the
> >> > utility company to come out and check you EMF
> levels?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Jennie
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: torch369 <[hidden email]
> <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
> >> > To: [hidden email]
> <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 4:49:27 PM
> >> > Subject: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels
> checked by SDGE
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > My local utility sent someone out to check my
> EMF Levels in
> >> > my apt, garage and surrounding area.
> >> > They actually checked out pretty good,
> according to him for
> >> > an apt. they were very good.
> >> > Garage was .32. The only bad spots were a
> copper pipe
> >> > running across the wall but when he put the
> device closer to
> >> > the ceiling (under my bedroom) it dropped
> off.
> >> > Front Door was .36.
> >> > Living Room was .48
> >> > Kitchen was 1.24
> >> > Bedroom was .48
> >> > Dining Room was .80
> >> >
> >> > The one item I own that he said was too high
> was the small
> >> > air cleaner I use to drown out outside
> noises. This had read
> >> > high also on my little $30 Cellsensor so that
> Meter was a
> >> > good buy. Where it was located still showed a
> high level by
> >> > my feet but it was OK by my head and body.
> Its amazing how
> >> > much EMF that little cleaner throws off.
> >> > So, now I know it isn't so bad in here. Not
> going to try
> >> > the stetzer filters, going to return the
> stetzerizer meter,
> >> > and going to try some of those Quantum
> strips/outlets like I
> >> > said I was. Seems to be the way to go I
> think.
> >> >
> >> > Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise
> machine or
> >> > something that can drown out outside noises
> so I can replace
> >> > that air cleaner I'd love to hear about it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [hidden email]<eSens-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> [hidden email]
>
>
>


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steve
All microwaves give off emf when they are off as far as I know. The outlet is grounded because I tested it with a surge protector that has a wiring site fault light.

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: charles <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 11:46 AM
> If the microwave oven gives off emf
> even when its not on, than it is a
> matter of grounding.
>
> The electrical wiring is not grounded.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve G" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by
> SDGE
>
>
> He said it was from the fridge. The compressor was on when
> he did the
> reading. Also the microwave oven gives off emf even when
> its not on.
> Would adding a good surge suppressor help with the fridge?
>
> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by
> SDGE
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 10:48 AM
> > And by the way, 1.24 in the kitchen
> > sounds terrible.
> > Stetzer filters will not solve that (although
> reducing
> > dirty
> > power in that situation is a good idea). Figure out
> > the
> > cause of that. If it goes away with everything off
> > (try the
> > lights first) then it's probably a wiring error. If
> > you have
> > two switches controlling the lights, probably the
> white
> > neutral wires from two circuits are connected
> somewhere.
> > This is usually (but not always) easy to fix.
> >
> > The power company guy ideally would have commented
> > on this...but their bible says anything under 1000 mGa
> is
> > safe.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > 0.3 milligauss is not terrible, but for someone
> who is
> > sensitive
> > > it's really not great, especially if there is
> dirty
> > power on the line.
> > >
> > > It would probably make sense to have a plumber
> put a
> > > dielectric union or short piece of plastic
> ("pex")
> > tubing
> > > anywhere in that copper pipe. Or disconnect the
> > loop it's
> > > forming (could be a dishwasher or fridge with ice
> make
> > doubly
> > > grounded). Or, in some cases you can
> > add a copper wire
> > > connected to the pipe at both ends, and running
> along
> > > the path that completes the loop. This is hard
> > to explain
> > > in words, but given a choice most of the AC
> current
> > will go
> > > through a small loop rather than a large one, if
> you
> > can get
> > > the small one really tiny (think twisted pair)
> it
> > could be
> > > fairly effective. But just breaking the loop is
> > always most effective.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steve G <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I just called and said I was concerned about
> EMF
> > levels. They were very
> > >> understanding (although they are installing
> smart
> > meters so I guess their
> > >> level of understanding has limits). They
> sent
> > someone out to read my apt and
> > >> outside the building. They are pretty good
> about
> > this stuff-they check out
> > >> my gas appliances for free every winter.
> > >>
> > >> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Jennie Wassenaar
> > >> <[hidden email]<ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]
> > <ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> > >>
> > >> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF
> Levels
> > checked by SDGE
> > >> > To: [hidden email]
> > <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:56 AM
> > >>
> > >> > How did you get someone from the
> > >> > utility company to come out and check
> you EMF
> > levels?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> >
> > >> > Jennie
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ________________________________
> > >> > From: torch369 <[hidden email]
> > <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
> > >> > To: [hidden email]
> > <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 4:49:27 PM
> > >> > Subject: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels
> > checked by SDGE
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > My local utility sent someone out to
> check my
> > EMF Levels in
> > >> > my apt, garage and surrounding area.
> > >> > They actually checked out pretty good,
> > according to him for
> > >> > an apt. they were very good.
> > >> > Garage was .32. The only bad spots were
> a
> > copper pipe
> > >> > running across the wall but when he put
> the
> > device closer to
> > >> > the ceiling (under my bedroom) it
> dropped
> > off.
> > >> > Front Door was .36.
> > >> > Living Room was .48
> > >> > Kitchen was 1.24
> > >> > Bedroom was .48
> > >> > Dining Room was .80
> > >> >
> > >> > The one item I own that he said was too
> high
> > was the small
> > >> > air cleaner I use to drown out outside
> > noises. This had read
> > >> > high also on my little $30 Cellsensor so
> that
> > Meter was a
> > >> > good buy. Where it was located still
> showed a
> > high level by
> > >> > my feet but it was OK by my head and
> body.
> > Its amazing how
> > >> > much EMF that little cleaner throws
> off.
> > >> > So, now I know it isn't so bad in here.
> Not
> > going to try
> > >> > the stetzer filters, going to return
> the
> > stetzerizer meter,
> > >> > and going to try some of those Quantum
> > strips/outlets like I
> > >> > said I was. Seems to be the way to go I
> > think.
> > >> >
> > >> > Now, if anyone knows of a good white
> noise
> > machine or
> > >> > something that can drown out outside
> noises
> > so I can replace
> > >> > that air cleaner I'd love to hear about
> it.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have
> been
> > removed]
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ------------------------------------
> > >> >
> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > [hidden email]<eSens-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > [hidden email]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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>
>
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>
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charles-4
No, when the wiring is right, microwave ovens do not show magnetic fields,
when they are of..

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve G" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE


All microwaves give off emf when they are off as far as I know. The outlet
is grounded because I tested it with a surge protector that has a wiring
site fault light.

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: charles <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 11:46 AM
> If the microwave oven gives off emf
> even when its not on, than it is a
> matter of grounding.
>
> The electrical wiring is not grounded.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve G" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by
> SDGE
>
>
> He said it was from the fridge. The compressor was on when
> he did the
> reading. Also the microwave oven gives off emf even when
> its not on.
> Would adding a good surge suppressor help with the fridge?
>
> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by
> SDGE
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 10:48 AM
> > And by the way, 1.24 in the kitchen
> > sounds terrible.
> > Stetzer filters will not solve that (although
> reducing
> > dirty
> > power in that situation is a good idea). Figure out
> > the
> > cause of that. If it goes away with everything off
> > (try the
> > lights first) then it's probably a wiring error. If
> > you have
> > two switches controlling the lights, probably the
> white
> > neutral wires from two circuits are connected
> somewhere.
> > This is usually (but not always) easy to fix.
> >
> > The power company guy ideally would have commented
> > on this...but their bible says anything under 1000 mGa
> is
> > safe.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > 0.3 milligauss is not terrible, but for someone
> who is
> > sensitive
> > > it's really not great, especially if there is
> dirty
> > power on the line.
> > >
> > > It would probably make sense to have a plumber
> put a
> > > dielectric union or short piece of plastic
> ("pex")
> > tubing
> > > anywhere in that copper pipe. Or disconnect the
> > loop it's
> > > forming (could be a dishwasher or fridge with ice
> make
> > doubly
> > > grounded). Or, in some cases you can
> > add a copper wire
> > > connected to the pipe at both ends, and running
> along
> > > the path that completes the loop. This is hard
> > to explain
> > > in words, but given a choice most of the AC
> current
> > will go
> > > through a small loop rather than a large one, if
> you
> > can get
> > > the small one really tiny (think twisted pair)
> it
> > could be
> > > fairly effective. But just breaking the loop is
> > always most effective.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steve G <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I just called and said I was concerned about
> EMF
> > levels. They were very
> > >> understanding (although they are installing
> smart
> > meters so I guess their
> > >> level of understanding has limits). They
> sent
> > someone out to read my apt and
> > >> outside the building. They are pretty good
> about
> > this stuff-they check out
> > >> my gas appliances for free every winter.
> > >>
> > >> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Jennie Wassenaar
> > >> <[hidden email]<ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]
> > <ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> > >>
> > >> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF
> Levels
> > checked by SDGE
> > >> > To: [hidden email]
> > <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:56 AM
> > >>
> > >> > How did you get someone from the
> > >> > utility company to come out and check
> you EMF
> > levels?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> >
> > >> > Jennie
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ________________________________
> > >> > From: torch369 <[hidden email]
> > <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
> > >> > To: [hidden email]
> > <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 4:49:27 PM
> > >> > Subject: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels
> > checked by SDGE
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > My local utility sent someone out to
> check my
> > EMF Levels in
> > >> > my apt, garage and surrounding area.
> > >> > They actually checked out pretty good,
> > according to him for
> > >> > an apt. they were very good.
> > >> > Garage was .32. The only bad spots were
> a
> > copper pipe
> > >> > running across the wall but when he put
> the
> > device closer to
> > >> > the ceiling (under my bedroom) it
> dropped
> > off.
> > >> > Front Door was .36.
> > >> > Living Room was .48
> > >> > Kitchen was 1.24
> > >> > Bedroom was .48
> > >> > Dining Room was .80
> > >> >
> > >> > The one item I own that he said was too
> high
> > was the small
> > >> > air cleaner I use to drown out outside
> > noises. This had read
> > >> > high also on my little $30 Cellsensor so
> that
> > Meter was a
> > >> > good buy. Where it was located still
> showed a
> > high level by
> > >> > my feet but it was OK by my head and
> body.
> > Its amazing how
> > >> > much EMF that little cleaner throws
> off.
> > >> > So, now I know it isn't so bad in here.
> Not
> > going to try
> > >> > the stetzer filters, going to return
> the
> > stetzerizer meter,
> > >> > and going to try some of those Quantum
> > strips/outlets like I
> > >> > said I was. Seems to be the way to go I
> > think.
> > >> >
> > >> > Now, if anyone knows of a good white
> noise
> > machine or
> > >> > something that can drown out outside
> noises
> > so I can replace
> > >> > that air cleaner I'd love to hear about
> it.
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Re: Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE

steve
hmmmm, I'll have to look into that.

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: charles <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 1:11 PM
> No, when the wiring is right,
> microwave ovens do not show magnetic fields,
> when they are of..
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve G" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by
> SDGE
>
>
> All microwaves give off emf when they are off as far as I
> know. The outlet
> is grounded because I tested it with a surge protector that
> has a wiring
> site fault light.
>
> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, charles <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > From: charles <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by
> SDGE
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 11:46 AM
> > If the microwave oven gives off emf
> > even when its not on, than it is a
> > matter of grounding.
> >
> > The electrical wiring is not grounded.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.milieuziektes.be
> > www.hetbitje.nl
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> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve G" <[hidden email]>
> > To: <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked
> by
> > SDGE
> >
> >
> > He said it was from the fridge. The compressor was on
> when
> > he did the
> > reading. Also the microwave oven gives off emf even
> when
> > its not on.
> > Would adding a good surge suppressor help with the
> fridge?
> >
> > --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels
> checked by
> > SDGE
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 10:48 AM
> > > And by the way, 1.24 in the kitchen
> > > sounds terrible.
> > > Stetzer filters will not solve that (although
> > reducing
> > > dirty
> > > power in that situation is a good idea). Figure
> out
> > > the
> > > cause of that. If it goes away with everything
> off
> > > (try the
> > > lights first) then it's probably a wiring error.
> If
> > > you have
> > > two switches controlling the lights, probably
> the
> > white
> > > neutral wires from two circuits are connected
> > somewhere.
> > > This is usually (but not always) easy to fix.
> > >
> > > The power company guy ideally would have
> commented
> > > on this...but their bible says anything under
> 1000 mGa
> > is
> > > safe.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Bill Bruno
> <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > 0.3 milligauss is not terrible, but for
> someone
> > who is
> > > sensitive
> > > > it's really not great, especially if there
> is
> > dirty
> > > power on the line.
> > > >
> > > > It would probably make sense to have a
> plumber
> > put a
> > > > dielectric union or short piece of plastic
> > ("pex")
> > > tubing
> > > > anywhere in that copper pipe. Or disconnect
> the
> > > loop it's
> > > > forming (could be a dishwasher or fridge
> with ice
> > make
> > > doubly
> > > > grounded). Or, in some cases you can
> > > add a copper wire
> > > > connected to the pipe at both ends, and
> running
> > along
> > > > the path that completes the loop. This is
> hard
> > > to explain
> > > > in words, but given a choice most of the AC
> > current
> > > will go
> > > > through a small loop rather than a large
> one, if
> > you
> > > can get
> > > > the small one really tiny (think twisted
> pair)
> > it
> > > could be
> > > > fairly effective. But just breaking the loop
> is
> > > always most effective.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steve G
> <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I just called and said I was concerned
> about
> > EMF
> > > levels. They were very
> > > >> understanding (although they are
> installing
> > smart
> > > meters so I guess their
> > > >> level of understanding has limits).
> They
> > sent
> > > someone out to read my apt and
> > > >> outside the building. They are pretty
> good
> > about
> > > this stuff-they check out
> > > >> my gas appliances for free every
> winter.
> > > >>
> > > >> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Jennie Wassenaar
> > > >> <[hidden email]<ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]
> > > <ad-in%40ameritech.net>>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my
> EMF
> > Levels
> > > checked by SDGE
> > > >> > To: [hidden email]
> > > <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010,
> 5:56 AM
> > > >>
> > > >> > How did you get someone from the
> > > >> > utility company to come out and
> check
> > you EMF
> > > levels?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Jennie
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ________________________________
> > > >> > From: torch369 <[hidden email]
> > > <torch369%40yahoo.com>>
> > > >> > To: [hidden email]
> > > <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> > Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 4:49:27
> PM
> > > >> > Subject: [eSens] Just had my EMF
> Levels
> > > checked by SDGE
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > My local utility sent someone out
> to
> > check my
> > > EMF Levels in
> > > >> > my apt, garage and surrounding
> area.
> > > >> > They actually checked out pretty
> good,
> > > according to him for
> > > >> > an apt. they were very good.
> > > >> > Garage was .32. The only bad spots
> were
> > a
> > > copper pipe
> > > >> > running across the wall but when he
> put
> > the
> > > device closer to
> > > >> > the ceiling (under my bedroom) it
> > dropped
> > > off.
> > > >> > Front Door was .36.
> > > >> > Living Room was .48
> > > >> > Kitchen was 1.24
> > > >> > Bedroom was .48
> > > >> > Dining Room was .80
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The one item I own that he said was
> too
> > high
> > > was the small
> > > >> > air cleaner I use to drown out
> outside
> > > noises. This had read
> > > >> > high also on my little $30
> Cellsensor so
> > that
> > > Meter was a
> > > >> > good buy. Where it was located
> still
> > showed a
> > > high level by
> > > >> > my feet but it was OK by my head
> and
> > body.
> > > Its amazing how
> > > >> > much EMF that little cleaner
> throws
> > off.
> > > >> > So, now I know it isn't so bad in
> here.
> > Not
> > > going to try
> > > >> > the stetzer filters, going to
> return
> > the
> > > stetzerizer meter,
> > > >> > and going to try some of those
> Quantum
> > > strips/outlets like I
> > > >> > said I was. Seems to be the way to
> go I
> > > think.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Now, if anyone knows of a good
> white
> > noise
> > > machine or
> > > >> > something that can drown out
> outside
> > noises
> > > so I can replace
> > > >> > that air cleaner I'd love to hear
> about
> > it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
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> have
> > been
> > > removed]
> > > >> >
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> > > >>
> > > >
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Re: Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE

Gruendg
In reply to this post by steve
 
White noise very well can be used to neutralize electrosmog. Just make a  
coil with 100 windings of copper wire and about 4 inches diameter and plug
this in your player instead the earphone and then play the white noise.
Naturally you will hear nothing, but all electrosmog present in the room will be
neutralized. But there is a side effect to this. Also healthy frequencies
like the Schumann frequency of 7,8 Hertz will be neutralized. So one has to
try.
 
dietrich
 
 
In einer eMail vom 25.03.2010 23:12:21 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt  
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Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise machine or something that can
> drown out outside noises so I can replace that air cleaner I'd love to
> hear about it.

You can buy CDs (or download MP3s) of white noise (or "brown noise", which
sounds more like the ocean) and play them on a stereo system...

Marc





 


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Re: White noise (prev.: Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE)

stephen_vandevijvere
Hello Dietrich,
 
Do I get this right, with that "white noise" you get an EMF-free room?!
 
To compensate for the lack of Schumann waves, maybe you can install a Schumann resonator (7.8 Hz)? I suppose you might still miss some of the cosmic rays of sun/space?
 
Is this a recent (genius) discovery of you? It seems a lot easier than shielding your house with alu-foil!
 
Stephen.
 
 


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From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 12:12 PM


 




White noise very well can be used to neutralize electrosmog. Just make a
coil with 100 windings of copper wire and about 4 inches diameter and plug
this in your player instead the earphone and then play the white noise.
Naturally you will hear nothing, but all electrosmog present in the room will be
neutralized. But there is a side effect to this. Also healthy frequencies
like the Schumann frequency of 7,8 Hertz will be neutralized. So one has to
try.

dietrich


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marc@ufoseries. com:

Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise machine or something that can
> drown out outside noises so I can replace that air cleaner I'd love to
> hear about it.

You can buy CDs (or download MP3s) of white noise (or "brown noise", which
sounds more like the ocean) and play them on a stereo system...

Marc

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Re: White noise (prev.: Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE)

charles-4
Hello Stephen,

you still did not read the information on my website.

Many people do want the information given to them on a spoon.
But you have to open their mouth, so you can shovel it in.
And then, you must see that they swallow it also.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] White noise (prev.: Just had my EMF Levels checked by
SDGE)


Hello Dietrich,

Do I get this right, with that "white noise" you get an EMF-free room?!

To compensate for the lack of Schumann waves, maybe you can install a
Schumann resonator (7.8 Hz)? I suppose you might still miss some of the
cosmic rays of sun/space?

Is this a recent (genius) discovery of you? It seems a lot easier than
shielding your house with alu-foil!

Stephen.




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From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just had my EMF Levels checked by SDGE
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 12:12 PM







White noise very well can be used to neutralize electrosmog. Just make a
coil with 100 windings of copper wire and about 4 inches diameter and plug
this in your player instead the earphone and then play the white noise.
Naturally you will hear nothing, but all electrosmog present in the room
will be
neutralized. But there is a side effect to this. Also healthy frequencies
like the Schumann frequency of 7,8 Hertz will be neutralized. So one has to
try.

dietrich


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marc@ufoseries. com:

Now, if anyone knows of a good white noise machine or something that can
> drown out outside noises so I can replace that air cleaner I'd love to
> hear about it.

You can buy CDs (or download MP3s) of white noise (or "brown noise", which
sounds more like the ocean) and play them on a stereo system...

Marc

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