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lunechene
Hi,

Hi all, to briefly introduce myself, I've always been sensitive in ways, call it empathic, psychic, etc.  Lately I have discovered that I may be 'E-sensitive' too, but I am a bit confused.  To explain- a few months after moving into our apartment a year and a half ago I began to experience what felt like a draining of positive feelings and a kind of psychic attack, only it seemed to be electronic.  It engendered emotions like depression, the feeling that something awful had happened or that someone had died- only I knew that these feelings weren't my own, and weren't organic but they were electronic, a constant low frequency that would get stronger if I wasn't vigilent about doing psychic cleansings almost daily. But no matter how I try the feelings always come back.  Sometimes these feelings would become physical and feel like burning sensations in my spine and my meridians, and sometimes I would feel a little nausea or uneasy in my stomach.  

A couple of nights ago my husband was talking about EMFs and we went outside and checked EMF levels and the cable and power boxes both had high EMF, and so did our LCD screen, but when I placed my hand near these *I only felt something from the Comcast cable box* and not the others.  I felt a strong energy around the cable box that felt like the feelings that I had been struggling with, and I even had a physiological reaction, a burning sensation in my neck.   My husband, however, felt nothing, although he did get a headache a few minutes later.

I definitely felt something *very strong* but I'm confused as to what since I felt nothing around other strong EMF sources.  Is it possible to only be sensitive to certain EMF frequencies or to other phenomenon like inaudible high pitched sounds?  And, more to the point, what can I do about it?  I doubt Comcast would do anything.  Any insights would be greatly appreciated :)

Rachael

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Marc Martin
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On July 17, lunechene <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I definitely felt something *very strong* but I'm confused as to what since I felt nothing
> around other strong EMF sources.  Is it possible to only be sensitive to certain EMF frequencies
> or to other phenomenon like inaudible high pitched sounds?  And, more to the point, what can
> I do about it?  I doubt Comcast would do anything.  Any insights would be greatly appreciated :)
>
> Rachael

Welcome to the group, Rachael.

I have certainly had strong reactions to particular pieces of electronics.  For example,
a certain computer monitor, or a certain Blu-ray disc player, etc.  I don't have any
problem with my current Comcast HD DVR, however the Comcast Internet modems
have been problematic for me (although I suspect it's the signal on the cable, not the
box itself, that I may be reacting to).

If you are reacting to a specific cable box, you might want to try and trade it in
for a different model.  I know that in our local Comcast customer support center,
they have various boxes piled up in the back room.  It's possible you may react to
one model but not another.

Marc
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Marc Martin
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On July 17, lunechene <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I definitely felt something *very strong* but I'm confused as to what since I felt
> nothing around other strong EMF sources

Note that there seems to be a general misconception that all strong sources
of EMF are problematic.  Generally I find that I only react to EMF sources that
have lots of very high frequencies -- either in the megahertz or gigahertz
regions.  Your Comcast cable box is dealing with very high frequencies,
as it is decoding digital television signals.  

The coax cable itself is also problematic, as it is carrying the signals for hundreds
of television channels simultaneously, plus I imagine it might be carrying
all of the Internet activity for your local "node" (neighborhood).  So that is a
LOT of data being transferred.  All at very high frequencies.  It certainly
helps that this is not being transmitted wirelessly, plus the cable is
shielded, but sensitive folks can still feel it.

Marc
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lunechene

Hi Marc,

Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my post.  This is all new to me!  I think you're probably right about the high frequency EMF, my husband did some muscle testing (don't know if you're familiar with that) and the answer was that I am especially sensitive to high frequencies.  The large cable box that is the culprit is for our entire building, and its right outside our bedroom window, affecting my sleep patterns and my moods throughout the day (I am a stay at home mom).  My husband wants to  place some egg cartons on the wall, he says that will help keep out noise, if it is the sound waves I am sensitive to.  I could call Comcast but I doubt they will do anything.  Any ideas?  How have you been able to cope?  

I also seem to be a little senisitive to emf in general, as being on a computer too long makes me feel drained, blocked and depressed.  But my reaction to the cable box is so strong as to be physically painful when I touch it!

Rachael


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

>
> On July 17, lunechene <lunechene@...> wrote:
> > I definitely felt something *very strong* but I'm confused as to what since I felt
> > nothing around other strong EMF sources
>
> Note that there seems to be a general misconception that all strong sources
> of EMF are problematic.  Generally I find that I only react to EMF sources that
> have lots of very high frequencies -- either in the megahertz or gigahertz
> regions.  Your Comcast cable box is dealing with very high frequencies,
> as it is decoding digital television signals.  
>
> The coax cable itself is also problematic, as it is carrying the signals for hundreds
> of television channels simultaneously, plus I imagine it might be carrying
> all of the Internet activity for your local "node" (neighborhood).  So that is a
> LOT of data being transferred.  All at very high frequencies.  It certainly
> helps that this is not being transmitted wirelessly, plus the cable is
> shielded, but sensitive folks can still feel it.
>
> Marc
>


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Marc Martin
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On July 20, lunechene <[hidden email]> wrote:
> The large cable box that is the culprit is for our entire building, and its
> right outside our bedroom window

Oh, I misunderstood.  When you said "cable box", I thought you meant
the box that goes next to your television set.

So, for something outside on the wall, you'd need to approach this
in the same way that people approach smart meters.  That would be
either to have some reflective material on your inside wall to
"bounce" the EMF away from you, or some absorptive material
that absorbs the signal.  There was a very recent message here
from someone who was successfully using both.  I know that
one of the things used was microwave absorbing sheets:

  http://lessemf.com/fabric.html

You could also try "EMF protection devices", either to wear on
your person, put next to the cable box, or treat a wide area.
These are hit & miss whether they will help you, but shielding
is also hit & miss (unfortunately, there is nothing that is guaranteed
to work).  I'd suggest trying a Quantum Pro, or an Earthcalm resonator
or plug-in, or a Mega-Chi pendant.
 
  http://quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_pro.html
  http://www.earthcalm.com/home-emf-protection/
  http://www.newspiritservices.com/MegaChi.energy.jewelry.html

> My husband wants to  place some egg cartons on the wall, he
> says that will help keep out noise, if it is the sound waves I am
> sensitive to.

I doubt it is sound waves.  More likely frequencies that are
hundreds or thousands of times more rapid than that -- in
the megahertz or gigahertz frequencies

And of course, some people end up moving to get away from
something like that.  But I'd personally try some of the above
ideas before doing something like that.

There are also things you can to improve you own health --
removal all metals on your person, take certain supplements,
eat certain foods, etc.  But also hit & miss as to what works
for specific people.

Marc
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steve
I've beenb having really bad aches since my neighbor had ATT U-Verse installed. The hook-up is in the garage below my living room.
I couldn't figure out why my fibromyalgia was getting worse but I think it must be this. Kind of surprises me though because I didn't think phone lines would be such an issue
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

>
> On July 20, lunechene <lunechene@...> wrote:
> > The large cable box that is the culprit is for our entire building, and its
> > right outside our bedroom window
>
> Oh, I misunderstood.  When you said "cable box", I thought you meant
> the box that goes next to your television set.
>
> So, for something outside on the wall, you'd need to approach this
> in the same way that people approach smart meters.  That would be
> either to have some reflective material on your inside wall to
> "bounce" the EMF away from you, or some absorptive material
> that absorbs the signal.  There was a very recent message here
> from someone who was successfully using both.  I know that
> one of the things used was microwave absorbing sheets:
>
>   http://lessemf.com/fabric.html
>
> You could also try "EMF protection devices", either to wear on
> your person, put next to the cable box, or treat a wide area.
> These are hit & miss whether they will help you, but shielding
> is also hit & miss (unfortunately, there is nothing that is guaranteed
> to work).  I'd suggest trying a Quantum Pro, or an Earthcalm resonator
> or plug-in, or a Mega-Chi pendant.
>  
>   http://quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_pro.html
>   http://www.earthcalm.com/home-emf-protection/
>   http://www.newspiritservices.com/MegaChi.energy.jewelry.html
>
> > My husband wants to  place some egg cartons on the wall, he
> > says that will help keep out noise, if it is the sound waves I am
> > sensitive to.
>
> I doubt it is sound waves.  More likely frequencies that are
> hundreds or thousands of times more rapid than that -- in
> the megahertz or gigahertz frequencies
>
> And of course, some people end up moving to get away from
> something like that.  But I'd personally try some of the above
> ideas before doing something like that.
>
> There are also things you can to improve you own health --
> removal all metals on your person, take certain supplements,
> eat certain foods, etc.  But also hit & miss as to what works
> for specific people.
>
> Marc
>


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Marc Martin
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On July 21, torch369 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I've beenb having really bad aches since my neighbor had ATT U-Verse installed.
> The hook-up is in the garage below my living room.
> I couldn't figure out why my fibromyalgia was getting worse but I think it must be this.
> Kind of surprises me though because I didn't think phone lines would be such an issue

Is AT&T U-Verse a DSL/phone line service?

I had really bad problems with I (foolishly) tried upgrading my 1.5Mbps DSL
service to 7 Mbps.  The house went from tolerable to intolerable the day the
switchover took place.  I later had a technician come by, and they said that
the wiring to my house wasn't good enough for 7 Mbps, and that the "lines
were stressed", but still...  I downgraded back to the 1.5Mbps as soon as
I could.

Marc
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sleepbiology
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The "Wireless Gateway" is the culprit here.


________________________________
 From: torch369 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 11:19 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Introduction and insights please :)
 


 
I've beenb having really bad aches since my neighbor had ATT U-Verse installed. The hook-up is in the garage below my living room.
I couldn't figure out why my fibromyalgia was getting worse but I think it must be this. Kind of surprises me though because I didn't think phone lines would be such an issue
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

>
> On July 20, lunechene <lunechene@...> wrote:
> > The large cable box that is the culprit is for our entire building, and its
> > right outside our bedroom window
>
> Oh, I misunderstood.  When you said "cable box", I thought you meant
> the box that goes next to your television set.
>
> So, for something outside on the wall, you'd need to approach this
> in the same way that people approach smart meters.  That would be
> either to have some reflective material on your inside wall to
> "bounce" the EMF away from you, or some absorptive material
> that absorbs the signal.  There was a very recent message here
> from someone who was successfully using both.  I know that
> one of the things used was microwave absorbing sheets:
>
> http://lessemf.com/fabric.html
>
> You could also try "EMF protection devices", either to wear on
> your person, put next to the cable box, or treat a wide area.
> These are hit & miss whether they will help you, but shielding
> is also hit & miss (unfortunately, there is nothing that is guaranteed
> to work).  I'd suggest trying a Quantum Pro, or an Earthcalm resonator
> or plug-in, or a Mega-Chi pendant.
>
> http://quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_pro.html
> http://www.earthcalm.com/home-emf-protection/
> http://www.newspiritservices.com/MegaChi.energy.jewelry.html
>
> > My husband wants to  place some egg cartons on the wall, he
> > says that will help keep out noise, if it is the sound waves I am
> > sensitive to.
>
> I doubt it is sound waves.  More likely frequencies that are
> hundreds or thousands of times more rapid than that -- in
> the megahertz or gigahertz frequencies
>
> And of course, some people end up moving to get away from
> something like that.  But I'd personally try some of the above
> ideas before doing something like that.
>
> There are also things you can to improve you own health --
> removal all metals on your person, take certain supplements,
> eat certain foods, etc.  But also hit & miss as to what works
> for specific people.
>
> Marc
>


 

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steve
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U-verse isn't DSL it's a fiber optic network I believe. But as someone else said it could be their wireless modem that's bothering me, although the previous tenants had a dish and I think they had wireless as well
I use Time Warner Cable. The cable box tests out very well with my gauss meter and it's not wireless
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

>
> On July 21, torch369 <torch369@...> wrote:
> > I've beenb having really bad aches since my neighbor had ATT U-Verse installed.
> > The hook-up is in the garage below my living room.
> > I couldn't figure out why my fibromyalgia was getting worse but I think it must be this.
> > Kind of surprises me though because I didn't think phone lines would be such an issue
>
> Is AT&T U-Verse a DSL/phone line service?
>
> I had really bad problems with I (foolishly) tried upgrading my 1.5Mbps DSL
> service to 7 Mbps.  The house went from tolerable to intolerable the day the
> switchover took place.  I later had a technician come by, and they said that
> the wiring to my house wasn't good enough for 7 Mbps, and that the "lines
> were stressed", but still...  I downgraded back to the 1.5Mbps as soon as
> I could.
>
> Marc
>


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Marc Martin
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On July 22, torch369 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> U-verse isn't DSL it's a fiber optic network I believe. But as someone else said
> it could be their wireless modem that's bothering me, although the previous tenants
> had a dish and I think they had wireless as well I use Time Warner Cable. The cable
> box tests out very well with my gauss meter and it's not wireless

People are quick to blame wireless for reactions, however, I have encountered
things that had no wireless transmissions at all, but were far more damaging to me
than any wi-fi I've ever encountered.  I think it depends on what you are sensitive to.

Marc
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sleepbiology
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Steve,

I believe you are on the right track. Below is a tiny bit evidence for my belief. I hve lots more if you want.

Our DNA communicate via wireless and this was shown by Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier, MD  in 2011.  http://iopscience.iop.org/1742-6596/306/1/012007

That router you are dealing with is using a pulsed 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz frequency. My previous neighbor had the same setup and I would wake up whenever he turned it on. I finally moved and never regretted it.  Ironically, these are the same frequencies that Russia used to bombard our embassy in Moscow during the cold war. The workers had dna damage along with cancer and two consecutive ambassadors died within two years of each other from leukemia. The U.S. government knew this but didn't say anything as they watched for ten years. 

Microwave weapons expert, Barrie Trower has come out of retirement to warn the world of the dangers we now use in our homes. Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xgJmeQaQmc  part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhcuSEHVOSM



" Lai and Singh (*1997) found that the dispensation of melatonin and N‐Tert‐Butylalpha‐Phenylnitron (PBN) before the EMF exposure prevented the occurrence of DNA breaks. Melatonin captures free radicals and for PBN it has been proven that it protects cells from cell death induced by free radicals."

Review of the Current Scientific Research in view of Precautionary Health Protection 
Commissioned by
T‐Mobil
DeTeMobil Deutsche Telekom MobilNet GmbH
 


To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:38 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Introduction and insights please :)
 


 
U-verse isn't DSL it's a fiber optic network I believe. But as someone else said it could be their wireless modem that's bothering me, although the previous tenants had a dish and I think they had wireless as well
I use Time Warner Cable. The cable box tests out very well with my gauss meter and it's not wireless
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

>
> On July 21, torch369 <torch369@...> wrote:
> > I've beenb having really bad aches since my neighbor had ATT U-Verse installed.
> > The hook-up is in the garage below my living room.
> > I couldn't figure out why my fibromyalgia was getting worse but I think it must be this.
> > Kind of surprises me though because I didn't think phone lines would be such an issue
>
> Is AT&T U-Verse a DSL/phone line service?
>
> I had really bad problems with I (foolishly) tried upgrading my 1.5Mbps DSL
> service to 7 Mbps.  The house went from tolerable to intolerable the day the
> switchover took place.  I later had a technician come by, and they said that
> the wiring to my house wasn't good enough for 7 Mbps, and that the "lines
> were stressed", but still...  I downgraded back to the 1.5Mbps as soon as
> I could.
>
> Marc
>


 

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PUK
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PUK
In reply to this post by lunechene
you talk about dna and wireless coms - the other day I witnessed a lady  
coming out of a very deep coma miraculously it was her husband who put there  
baby on her body skin to skin every day, my thoughts were that the babies
sten  cell radiation was strong enough to influence and communicate with the
mothers  dna etc to bring her back from the bring - roger coghill called this
cerebral  morhogenic radiation in hisbook something in the air written many
years  ago
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2013 6:51:04 A.M. Dateline Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Steve,

I believe you are on the right track. Below is a tiny bit  evidence for my
belief. I hve lots more if you want.

Our DNA  communicate via wireless and this was shown by Nobel Prize winner
Luc  Montagnier, MD  in 2011.  
http://iopscience.iop.org/1742-6596/306/1/012007

That  router you are dealing with is using a pulsed 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
frequency. My  previous neighbor had the same setup and I would wake up whenever
he turned it  on. I finally moved and never regretted it.  Ironically, these
are the  same frequencies that Russia used to bombard our embassy in Moscow
during the  cold war. The workers had dna damage along with cancer and two
consecutive  ambassadors died within two years of each other from leukemia.
The U.S.  government knew this but didn't say anything as they watched for
ten  years.

Microwave weapons expert, Barrie Trower has come out of  retirement to warn
the world of the dangers we now use in our homes. Part  1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xgJmeQaQmc   part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhcuSEHVOSM

"  Lai and Singh (*1997) found that the dispensation of melatonin and  N‐
Tert‐Butylalpha‐Phenylnitron (PBN) before the EMF exposure prevented  the
occurrence of DNA breaks. Melatonin captures free radicals and for  PBN it has
been proven that it protects cells from cell death induced by  free
radicals."

Review of the Current Scientific Research in view  of Precautionary Health
Protection
Commissioned  by
T‐Mobil
DeTeMobil Deutsche Telekom MobilNet GmbH


To:  _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  
Sent:  Monday, July 22, 2013 7:38 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Introduction and  insights please :)



U-verse isn't DSL it's a fiber optic  network I believe. But as someone
else said it could be their wireless modem  that's bothering me, although the
previous tenants had a dish and I think they  had wireless as well
I use Time Warner Cable. The cable box tests out very  well with my gauss
meter and it's not wireless
Steve

--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , Marc Martin
 <marc@...> wrote:
>
> On July 21, torch369  <torch369@...> wrote:
> > I've beenb having really bad aches  since my neighbor had ATT U-Verse
installed.
> > The hook-up is in  the garage below my living room.
> > I couldn't figure out why my  fibromyalgia was getting worse but I
think it must be this.
> > Kind  of surprises me though because I didn't think phone lines would
be such an  issue
>
> Is AT&T U-Verse a DSL/phone line service?
>  
> I had really bad problems with I (foolishly) tried upgrading my  1.5Mbps
DSL
> service to 7 Mbps. The house went from tolerable to  intolerable the day
the
> switchover took place. I later had a  technician come by, and they said
that
> the wiring to my house wasn't  good enough for 7 Mbps, and that the "lines
> were stressed", but  still... I downgraded back to the 1.5Mbps as soon as
> I could.
>  
> Marc
>

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Patricia
what "DNA communicate via wireless"
says to me is that we can telepath.  
i'm sure the cell phone and phone companies
would not like us to realize that we really
don't need them.
love, patricia


On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:32 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> you talk about dna and wireless coms - the other day I witnessed a lady  
> coming out of a very deep coma miraculously it was her husband who put there  
> baby on her body skin to skin every day, my thoughts were that the babies
> sten  cell radiation was strong enough to influence and communicate with the
> mothers  dna etc to bring her back from the bring - roger coghill called this
> cerebral  morhogenic radiation in hisbook something in the air written many
> years  ago
>
> puk
>
>
> In a message dated 7/22/2013 6:51:04 A.M. Dateline Standard Time,  
> [hidden email] writes:
>
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
> I believe you are on the right track. Below is a tiny bit  evidence for my
> belief. I hve lots more if you want.
>
> Our DNA  communicate via wireless and this was shown by Nobel Prize winner
> Luc  Montagnier, MD  in 2011.  
> http://iopscience.iop.org/1742-6596/306/1/012007
>
> That  router you are dealing with is using a pulsed 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> frequency. My  previous neighbor had the same setup and I would wake up whenever
> he turned it  on. I finally moved and never regretted it.  Ironically, these
> are the  same frequencies that Russia used to bombard our embassy in Moscow
> during the  cold war. The workers had dna damage along with cancer and two
> consecutive  ambassadors died within two years of each other from leukemia.
> The U.S.  government knew this but didn't say anything as they watched for
> ten  years.
>
> Microwave weapons expert, Barrie Trower has come out of  retirement to warn
> the world of the dangers we now use in our homes. Part  1
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xgJmeQaQmc   part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhcuSEHVOSM
>
> "  Lai and Singh (*1997) found that the dispensation of melatonin and  N‐
> Tert‐Butylalpha‐Phenylnitron (PBN) before the EMF exposure prevented  the
> occurrence of DNA breaks. Melatonin captures free radicals and for  PBN it has
> been proven that it protects cells from cell death induced by  free
> radicals."
>
> Review of the Current Scientific Research in view  of Precautionary Health
> Protection
> Commissioned  by
> T‐Mobil
> DeTeMobil Deutsche Telekom MobilNet GmbH
>
>
> To:  _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  
> Sent:  Monday, July 22, 2013 7:38 AM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Introduction and  insights please :)
>
>
>
> U-verse isn't DSL it's a fiber optic  network I believe. But as someone
> else said it could be their wireless modem  that's bothering me, although the
> previous tenants had a dish and I think they  had wireless as well
> I use Time Warner Cable. The cable box tests out very  well with my gauss
> meter and it's not wireless
> Steve
>
> --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , Marc Martin
> <marc@...> wrote:
>>
>> On July 21, torch369  <torch369@...> wrote:
>>> I've beenb having really bad aches  since my neighbor had ATT U-Verse
> installed.
>>> The hook-up is in  the garage below my living room.
>>> I couldn't figure out why my  fibromyalgia was getting worse but I
> think it must be this.
>>> Kind  of surprises me though because I didn't think phone lines would
> be such an  issue
>>
>> Is AT&T U-Verse a DSL/phone line service?
>>
>> I had really bad problems with I (foolishly) tried upgrading my  1.5Mbps
> DSL
>> service to 7 Mbps. The house went from tolerable to  intolerable the day
> the
>> switchover took place. I later had a  technician come by, and they said
> that
>> the wiring to my house wasn't  good enough for 7 Mbps, and that the "lines
>> were stressed", but  still... I downgraded back to the 1.5Mbps as soon as
>> I could.
>>
>> Marc
>>
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steve
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That's pretty scary but I move then someone else gets one. It's never ending.
I don't know if the earth calm products protect against this but they say they do.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Al Harding <iprovedit@...> wrote:

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> Steve,
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> I believe you are on the right track. Below is a tiny bit evidence for my belief. I hve lots more if you want.
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> Our DNA communicate via wireless and this was shown by Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier, MD  in 2011.  http://iopscience.iop.org/1742-6596/306/1/012007
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> That router you are dealing with is using a pulsed 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz frequency. My previous neighbor had the same setup and I would wake up whenever he turned it on. I finally moved and never regretted it.  Ironically, these are the same frequencies that Russia used to bombard our embassy in Moscow during the cold war. The workers had dna damage along with cancer and two consecutive ambassadors died within two years of each other from leukemia. The U.S. government knew this but didn't say anything as they watched for ten years. 
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> Microwave weapons expert, Barrie Trower has come out of retirement to warn the world of the dangers we now use in our homes. Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xgJmeQaQmc  part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhcuSEHVOSM
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> " Lai and Singh (*1997) found that the dispensation of melatonin and N‐Tert‐Butylalpha‐Phenylnitron (PBN) before the EMF exposure prevented the occurrence of DNA breaks. Melatonin captures free radicals and for PBN it has been proven that it protects cells from cell death induced by free radicals."
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> Review of the Current Scientific Research in view of Precautionary Health Protection 
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> U-verse isn't DSL it's a fiber optic network I believe. But as someone else said it could be their wireless modem that's bothering me, although the previous tenants had a dish and I think they had wireless as well
> I use Time Warner Cable. The cable box tests out very well with my gauss meter and it's not wireless
> Steve
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> > On July 21, torch369 <torch369@> wrote:
> > > I've beenb having really bad aches since my neighbor had ATT U-Verse installed.
> > > The hook-up is in the garage below my living room.
> > > I couldn't figure out why my fibromyalgia was getting worse but I think it must be this.
> > > Kind of surprises me though because I didn't think phone lines would be such an issue
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> > Is AT&T U-Verse a DSL/phone line service?
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> > I had really bad problems with I (foolishly) tried upgrading my 1.5Mbps DSL
> > service to 7 Mbps.  The house went from tolerable to intolerable the day the
> > switchover took place.  I later had a technician come by, and they said that
> > the wiring to my house wasn't good enough for 7 Mbps, and that the "lines
> > were stressed", but still...  I downgraded back to the 1.5Mbps as soon as
> > I could.
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Marc Martin
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On July 23, torch369 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> That's pretty scary but I move then someone else gets one. It's never ending.
> I don't know if the earth calm products protect against this but they say they do.

The protection I've noticed from Earthcalm products is typically minor.  There
have been occasions where I've noticed the resonator helping a lot, but that
seems to be exception not the norm.

Marc
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steve
Well that stinks. What would work best against wireless things like this and smart meters?
Steve

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> On July 23, torch369 <torch369@...> wrote:
> > That's pretty scary but I move then someone else gets one. It's never ending.
> > I don't know if the earth calm products protect against this but they say they do.
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> The protection I've noticed from Earthcalm products is typically minor.  There
> have been occasions where I've noticed the resonator helping a lot, but that
> seems to be exception not the norm.
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> Marc
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On July 23, torch369 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Well that stinks. What would work best against wireless things like this and smart meters?
> Steve

We don't yet have smart meters here, and I don't seem to be as sensitive
to wireless as some people here.  I primarily use stuff from Quantum Products
for EMF protection, although that has mostly been for computers,
florescent lights, TV sets, etc.  I do also use stuff from Earthcalm, but
I don't generally expect it to do much.  I get more consistent results
from the Mega-Chi pendant, which doesn't even advertise itself much
to be about EMF protection.  Also I find Springlife Polarizers to be
beneficial, although these are no longer manufactured/sold.

Marc

 
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sleepbiology
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A sledge hammer.


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Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:39 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Introduction and insights please :)
 


 
Well that stinks. What would work best against wireless things like this and smart meters?
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

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> On July 23, torch369 <torch369@...> wrote:
> > That's pretty scary but I move then someone else gets one. It's never ending.
> > I don't know if the earth calm products protect against this but they say they do.
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> The protection I've noticed from Earthcalm products is typically minor.  There
> have been occasions where I've noticed the resonator helping a lot, but that
> seems to be exception not the norm.
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> Marc
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sleepbiology
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Marc, 
 
You don't have smart meters yet? Everyone that I talk to, that visits a smart meter area, wakes up in the middle of the night for no reason. Just visit a hotel bar that has them. Get a group together and ask what time they woke up. That's when you get people's attention. They will all have woken at the same time. There is nothing you can do once these devices are pulsating through the wiring.  

I have heard low percentages being given for electrosensitivity. I believe those numbers to be wrong because 100 percent of us are sensitive once a smart meter is installed. Every meter emits differently. If yours is more active then you are doomed. All of Dr. Klinghardt's patients have high copper levels after installation.  Inflammatory markers such as TGF-Beta 1 and MMP-9 also increase.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_wxM6IAF1I&feature=c4-overview&list=UUBmSbCRd_Jj5NgV3xTwrkHA


Al

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On July 23, torch369 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Well that stinks. What would work best against wireless things like this and smart meters?
> Steve

We don't yet have smart meters here, and I don't seem to be as sensitive
to wireless as some people here.  I primarily use stuff from Quantum Products
for EMF protection, although that has mostly been for computers,
florescent lights, TV sets, etc.  I do also use stuff from Earthcalm, but
I don't generally expect it to do much.  I get more consistent results
from the Mega-Chi pendant, which doesn't even advertise itself much
to be about EMF protection.  Also I find SpringlifePolarizers to be
beneficial, although these are no longer manufactured/sold.

Marc


 

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Marc Martin
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On July 23, Al Harding <[hidden email]> wrote:
> There is nothing you can do once these devices are pulsating through the wiring.  

Well, a whole house EMF filter might help ?

Also, I've vacationed in an area that had smart meters, but didn't notice anything
from them.  So either they weren't wireless, or weren't sending much data out
on a regular basis. Or I'm not sensitive to them.

Marc
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