How to deal with ES while living in an apartment?

This has been very difficult. We turn off our circuit breakers at night, but we have neighbors on 2 sides and underneath us. We don't use WIFI and our neighbor below us turned his off, but we get 16 WIFI signals on my laptop from adjacent apartments. I have replaced dimmer switches, fluorescent/CFL lights and bought some Greenwave filters, but am sure we are still getting dirty electricity fields from neighbors. I successfully shielded the 8 smart meters just outside and below our apartment, but am not sure we can shield all the WIFI successfully. I pick up RF signals of 3000-4000 uW/m2 on the floor of our bedroom.
Using an AM radio set to static, I get a lot of noise in random spots on the wall and on one light switch. Not sure what this is.
Most EMF avoidance info I see on the web is for people who live in houses. Any tips?

LessEMF.com sells a shielding paint you can apply to walls and doors.  Might help but never used it myself.  They also sell a light dury faraday canopy that would at least protect you while you sleep.

Paint...
http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html

Faraday Canopy (towards bottom of page)...
http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html

By the way, how did you shield the smart meters?

Russ

--- In [hidden email], flyfishmike  wrote:

I would urge
caution on the paint. Many essers have found this made things worse. You end up
locking emfs inside the room.

 

As for the
canopy and using shielded fabric, I have used the canopy (I made my own out of
the High Performance Silver FAbric) I also urge caution. My daughter and I were
both ES. (she is no longer ES)

 

The canopy
works well, or did for us, as long as the person sleeping inside of the canopy,
isn't heavily irradiated.

Otherwise, the
body being RF'd, will also lock in the radiation to the sleep area.

Something not
often mentioned on this site, is that people who work/are around heavy cell
phone use/wifi...become a human cell tower, if you will.

 

One of the most
helpful things I have found to work for ES (besides nurturing the body with
essential nutrients and minerals and thyroid/adrenal support) ....is grounding
the body.

 

Finding a place
of nature and going barefoot and walking on the ground. A place that is very
low in cell towers/antennas and Light poles, ect and any things of electrical
nature. If it is too cold to go barefoot, hugging the trees in such a place is
also very helpful; although the barefoot grounding works better.

 

LIzzie


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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:19:07 +0000
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      LessEMF.com sells a shielding paint you can apply to walls and doors.  Might help but never used it myself.  They also sell a light dury faraday canopy that would at least protect you while you sleep.



Paint...

http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html



Faraday Canopy (towards bottom of page)...

http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html



By the way, how did you shield the smart meters?



Russ



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> This has been very difficult. We turn off our circuit breakers at night, but

> we have neighbors on 2 sides and underneath us. We don't use WIFI and our

> neighbor below us turned his off, but we get 16 WIFI signals on my laptop

> from adjacent apartments. I have replaced dimmer switches, fluorescent/CFL

> lights and bought some Greenwave filters, but am sure we are still getting

> dirty electricity fields from neighbors. I successfully shielded the 8 smart

> meters just outside and below our apartment, but am not sure we can shield

> all the WIFI successfully. I pick up RF signals of 3000-4000 uW/m2 on the

> floor of our bedroom.

> Using an AM radio set to static, I get a lot of noise in random spots on the

> wall and on one light switch. Not sure what this is.

> Most EMF avoidance info I see on the web is for people who live in houses.

> Any tips?

>

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> View this message in context: http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/How-to-deal-with-ES-while-living-in-an-apartment-tp4024386.html

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       Lizzie , would it be okay to use a grounding pad/sheet under the canopy? I have a canopy over my bed which helps a lot, but I was told by an EMF Mitigation Service Provider  not to use a grounding pad/sheets etc in my house because every single room has a rooftop antennae beaming through the ceiling of  it,some rooms have 2 of them. I was told not to use the grounding pad/sheet anywhere near RF Microwave Radiation as it attracts the radiation and if I am between the grounding  pad/sheet and the radiation then the radiation will go right through me.  But it is winter in Ottawa Canada where I live and walking barefoot outside is not an option.

   I was wondering if I could use a grounding sheet or pad on my bed under the canopy as there would be no RF Microwave radiation there .......what do you think?

                     best wishes
                             Shan

--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode  wrote:

Hi Shan,

 

That's a tough question. I have
no experience with using grounding sheets and having roof top antennas.

 

The system I use is not plugged
into any outlet though, and I wonder if the EMF guy said this, because of radiation/RF
piggybacking on the wires to the house. This would be a factor when using those
bed grounding systems that plug into an outlet.

 

I do have the set up, using the
canopy and the bed grounding system, but there are factors here that make my
situation different from yours. There is no electricity hooked up where i sleep
and no roof top antennas-

 

And my bed grounding system uses
a 5 gal planter pot filled with soil, a copper rod, and alligator clips which
connect, one to the copper rod in the planter, and the other to the bottom of
the grounding sheet.

 

I simply don't know if his answer
is accurate or not.

 

I do wonder though, if using
those mylar camping blankets, aluminum side, facing the ceiling, would help
block the radiation coming from the rooftop antennas.

 

Here's the link: educate-yourself.org/cn/microwaveshielding09jan12.shtml

 

As for the grounding at the park.
here in upper michigan, we are in midst of a below zero cold snap..... I hug a
tree instead of

going barefoot. It does work,
especially if the trees are away from cell tower/ect.

 

Lizzie


 To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:00:59 +0000
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             Lizzie , would it be okay to use a grounding pad/sheet under the canopy? I have a canopy over my bed which helps a lot, but I was told by an EMF Mitigation Service Provider  not to use a grounding pad/sheets etc in my house because every single room has a rooftop antennae beaming through the ceiling of  it,some rooms have 2 of them. I was told not to use the grounding pad/sheet anywhere near RF Microwave Radiation as it attracts the radiation and if I am between the grounding  pad/sheet and the radiation then the radiation will go right through me.  But it is winter in Ottawa Canada where I live and walking barefoot outside is not an option.



I was wondering if I could use a grounding sheet or pad on my bed under the canopy as there would be no RF Microwave radiation there .......what do you think?



best wishes

                             Shan



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode  wrote:

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> I would urge

> caution on the paint. Many essers have found this made things worse. You end up

> locking emfs inside the room.

>

>  

>

> As for the

> canopy and using shielded fabric, I have used the canopy (I made my own out of

> the High Performance Silver FAbric) I also urge caution. My daughter and I were

> both ES. (she is no longer ES)

>

>  

>

> The canopy

> works well, or did for us, as long as the person sleeping inside of the canopy,

> isn't heavily irradiated.

>

> Otherwise, the

> body being RF'd, will also lock in the radiation to the sleep area.

>

> Something not

> often mentioned on this site, is that people who work/are around heavy cell

> phone use/wifi...become a human cell tower, if you will.

>

>  

>

> One of the most

> helpful things I have found to work for ES (besides nurturing the body with

> essential nutrients and minerals and thyroid/adrenal support) ....is grounding

> the body.

>

>  

>

> Finding a place

> of nature and going barefoot and walking on the ground. A place that is very

> low in cell towers/antennas and Light poles, ect and any things of electrical

> nature. If it is too cold to go barefoot, hugging the trees in such a place is

> also very helpful; although the barefoot grounding works better.

>

>  

>

> LIzzie

>

>

>  To: [hidden email]

> From: russturk@...

> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:19:07 +0000

> Subject: [eSens] Re: How to deal with ES while living in an apartment?

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>       LessEMF.com sells a shielding paint you can apply to walls and doors.  Might help but never used it myself.  They also sell a light dury faraday canopy that would at least protect you while you sleep.

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> Paint...

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> http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html

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> http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html

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> > we have neighbors on 2 sides and underneath us. We don't use WIFI and our

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> > neighbor below us turned his off, but we get 16 WIFI signals on my laptop

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> > from adjacent apartments. I have replaced dimmer switches, fluorescent/CFL

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> > lights and bought some Greenwave filters, but am sure we are still getting

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> > dirty electricity fields from neighbors. I successfully shielded the 8 smart

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> > meters just outside and below our apartment, but am not sure we can shield

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> > all the WIFI successfully. I pick up RF signals of 3000-4000 uW/m2 on the

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> > floor of our bedroom.

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> > Using an AM radio set to static, I get a lot of noise in random spots on the

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> > wall and on one light switch. Not sure what this is.

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> > Most EMF avoidance info I see on the web is for people who live in houses.

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> > Any tips?

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--- On Wed, 1/23/13, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:




















 


    I would urge caution on the paint. Many essers have found this made things worse. You end uplocking emfs inside the room.

Yes I agree with all of what you say Lizzie.  And a canopy, faraday cage or shielding fabric in the sleeping area is an ABSOLUTE MUST!  You need a break at night because in apartrments, no matter how much you try to block, RF there is going to be leakage and exposure.

I live in an apartment and I have covered the walls and windows in my bedroom and living room with hardware screen to block microwave radiation coming in through the walls and windows from nearby Cell Towers.  This has made it possible to live in the unit without having a total meltdown.  It has brought the levels down considerably. 

But the people above and below me have Cordless Phones and Wi_FI coming thru the floors.  I covered the living room floor with hardware screen and the hallway with sheet metal which brought the levels down considerably, but doing that did create issues with EMF's bouncing around off the screen in the living room from the Electronics I have in there, such as Computer, TV, Stereo, etc.  The whole thing is a mess but even with this mess, it is better than living in here with no sheilding on the walls and windows, in which case I would be getting totally fried. 

So, you need to assess where the exposure is coming from and try to block it best you can to bring the levels down.   DO NOT USE THE PAINT.  Bad idea.  Besides, it costs to much for a rental situation - why put that money into someone else's property when you could spend it on shielding fabric or material?  At least with sheet metal, you can take it with you.  Plus, the paint does not address windows and floors. 

Cover all windows with cheap aluminum screen.  $1.00 a foot. Cheapest and best solution I have found. 


C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee






 










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-- On Wed, 1/23/13, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:


The canopy works well, or did for us, as long as the person sleeping inside of the canopy, isn't heavily irradiated.



Otherwise, the body being RF'd, will also lock in the radiation to the sleep area.



....

Finding a place of nature and going barefoot and walking on the ground. A
 place that is very low in cell towers/antennas and Light poles, ect and
 any things of electrical nature. If it is too cold to go barefoot,
hugging the trees in such a place is also very helpful; although the barefoot grounding works better.



LIzzie





Lizzie,

I know we talked about this before, but I do not feel I have a satisfactory resolution to the problem

I live in an apartment,  I described in my previous email how I have shielded the walls and floor with aluminum screen and brought the levels down. 

But there is a lot of leakage and I do absorb microwaves throughout the day in my apartment and when I go outside into the city, where the levels are through the roof!

So when I get into bed, under my canopy, My body has retained a lot of radiation that is trapped inside of me.  I described before how I will hurt really bad for about an hour under the canopy, until pent up microwaves seem to settle down.  I try to touch a small grounding pad I have in my bed that is hooked to the water heater with an alligator cllip, but when I fall asleep, it gets away from me and I am not in contact with it all night.  It does not seem to do a very good job of dissipating the build up anyway. Other than that, since I have not grounded myself by walking on the earth, I suppose the RF I absorbed like a sponge, throughout the day, has not gone away and is still trapped in my body whether I feel it or not?  Is this more harmful than sleeping without the canopy and absorbing more RF during the night?

Do you think a body voltage meter would help assess this situation? 

I cannot take a Nature Walk:
I am in an apartment, it is freeaing cold outside and no where to walk that is not contaminated for miles.  It is a huge hassle for me to get in my car, drive through Electrosmog to get to to a park and walk barefoot in the freezing cold, especially when I have the flu or what not. 

So the question is, if you are trapped in an apartment where the outlets are likely full of dirty electricity, and you are on an upper floor and cannot run a grounding wire out the window, because the ground below is asphalt and full of EMF's anyway........ 

HOW CAN I GROUND MYSELF BEFORE BED, TO DISSIPATE THE BUILT UP RADIATION IN MY BODY?  HOW CAN I GET THIS RADIATION OUT OF ME BEFORE I GET UNDER THE CANOPY? 

ANYONE have any answers or suggestions?  What has worked for you?  Does anyone even know what to do or is just a guess?  Do you have any links of someone who knows what to do that is effective?  Thanks.

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee



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You rock!Excellent post! And I am so happy you found the screening stuff to work. Lizzie
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:09:38 -0800
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: How to deal with ES while living in an apartment?
















 



 


   
     
     
      --- On Wed, 1/23/13, Elizabeth thode [hidden email]> wrote:



I would urge caution on the paint. Many essers have found this made things worse. You end uplocking emfs inside the room.



Yes I agree with all of what you say Lizzie.  And a canopy, faraday cage or shielding fabric in the sleeping area is an ABSOLUTE MUST!  You need a break at night because in apartrments, no matter how much you try to block, RF there is going to be leakage and exposure.



I live in an apartment and I have covered the walls and windows in my bedroom and living room with hardware screen to block microwave radiation coming in through the walls and windows from nearby Cell Towers.  This has made it possible to live in the unit without having a total meltdown.  It has brought the levels down considerably.  



But the people above and below me have Cordless Phones and Wi_FI coming thru the floors.  I covered the living room floor with hardware screen and the hallway with sheet metal which brought the levels down considerably, but doing that did create issues with EMF's bouncing around off the screen in the living room from the Electronics I have in there, such as Computer, TV, Stereo, etc.  The whole thing is a mess but even with this mess, it is better than living in here with no sheilding on the walls and windows, in which case I would be getting totally fried.  



So, you need to assess where the exposure is coming from and try to block it best you can to bring the levels down.   DO NOT USE THE PAINT.  Bad idea.  Besides, it costs to much for a rental situation - why put that money into someone else's property when you could spend it on shielding fabric or material?  At least with sheet metal, you can take it with you.  Plus, the paint does not address windows and floors.  



Cover all windows with cheap aluminum screen.  $1.00 a foot. Cheapest and best solution I have found.  



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



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Lizzie,

You talked in the last year or two, about the technique you use to dissipate built up radiation by wetting your head and feet with special water.  Could you elaborate on that again or point me to where it is in the archives?  Thanks

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee


--- On Wed, 1/23/13, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:


The canopy works well, or did for us, as long as the person sleeping inside of the canopy isn't heavily irradiated.



Otherwise, the body being RF'd, will also lock in the radiation to the sleep area.





 










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I have sent you a sheet on how to use a bed grounding system with OUT using the water pipe. Water pipes can have alot of RF frequency piggyback on them, and also can have HIGH magnetic fields. I read years ago, to NOT use water pipes for grounding.  Lizzie
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:41:25 -0800
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      -- On Wed, 1/23/13, Elizabeth thode [hidden email]> wrote:



The canopy works well, or did for us, as long as the person sleeping inside of the canopy, isn't heavily irradiated.



Otherwise, the body being RF'd, will also lock in the radiation to the sleep area.



....



Finding a place of nature and going barefoot and walking on the ground. A

 place that is very low in cell towers/antennas and Light poles, ect and

 any things of electrical nature. If it is too cold to go barefoot,

hugging the trees in such a place is also very helpful; although the barefoot grounding works better.



LIzzie



Lizzie,



I know we talked about this before, but I do not feel I have a satisfactory resolution to the problem



I live in an apartment,  I described in my previous email how I have shielded the walls and floor with aluminum screen and brought the levels down.  



But there is a lot of leakage and I do absorb microwaves throughout the day in my apartment and when I go outside into the city, where the levels are through the roof!



So when I get into bed, under my canopy, My body has retained a lot of radiation that is trapped inside of me.  I described before how I will hurt really bad for about an hour under the canopy, until pent up microwaves seem to settle down.  I try to touch a small grounding pad I have in my bed that is hooked to the water heater with an alligator cllip, but when I fall asleep, it gets away from me and I am not in contact with it all night.  It does not seem to do a very good job of dissipating the build up anyway. Other than that, since I have not grounded myself by walking on the earth, I suppose the RF I absorbed like a sponge, throughout the day, has not gone away and is still trapped in my body whether I feel it or not?  Is this more harmful than sleeping without the canopy and absorbing more RF during the night?



Do you think a body voltage meter would help assess this situation?  



I cannot take a Nature Walk:

I am in an apartment, it is freeaing cold outside and no where to walk that is not contaminated for miles.  It is a huge hassle for me to get in my car, drive through Electrosmog to get to to a park and walk barefoot in the freezing cold, especially when I have the flu or what not.  



So the question is, if you are trapped in an apartment where the outlets are likely full of dirty electricity, and you are on an upper floor and cannot run a grounding wire out the window, because the ground below is asphalt and full of EMF's anyway........  



HOW CAN I GROUND MYSELF BEFORE BED, TO DISSIPATE THE BUILT UP RADIATION IN MY BODY?  HOW CAN I GET THIS RADIATION OUT OF ME BEFORE I GET UNDER THE CANOPY?  



ANYONE have any answers or suggestions?  What has worked for you?  Does anyone even know what to do or is just a guess?  Do you have any links of someone who knows what to do that is effective?  Thanks.



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



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Good memory.

I used filtered
water, no Fluoride, and bought these cosmic stones from www.globallight.net

Look under
Water Transformation.

 

I used 3 of
these balls, in a glass milk jug, and let the water sit to activate for 6 hrs.

I had many of
these jugs going, and i used masking tape, to write the date and time

on the milk
cap, so I could keep track of how long the water had been activated.

I still use
this today. It is the most awesome water, those stones change the formation

of the water,
and drinking this water is amazing.

 

You can read
the info on the above site. It changes the Bovis reading on the water.

This is the
water we used to discharge excess static off of our heads/hair.

But, the water
used cannot BE tap water, or contaminated water filtered thru a reverse
osmosis.

 

If you suspect
your water is contaminated, do what you have to do, to get as clean of water as

you can.

 

The water in my
area, IS contaminated by leaking udnerground storage tanks.

So I get my water from the Krogers in the next town up, from their Reverse
Osmosis machine.

You can buy jugs,fill em, and save the jugs and refill em. It costs me .39
cents a re fill.

 LizzieTo: [hidden email]
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:57:43 -0800
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      Lizzie,



You talked in the last year or two, about the technique you use to dissipate built up radiation by wetting your head and feet with special water.  Could you elaborate on that again or point me to where it is in the archives?  Thanks



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



--- On Wed, 1/23/13, Elizabeth thode [hidden email]> wrote:



The canopy works well, or did for us, as long as the person sleeping inside of the canopy isn't heavily irradiated.



Otherwise, the body being RF'd, will also lock in the radiation to the sleep area.



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How about some form of earthed bath arrangement, obviously not earthed to  
the mains ! Full body imersion into some kind of fluid such as salt water
could  be good also, vigerous exercise ? If you look up NextUp site there are
pictures  on there of the deguass douching/shoer arrangement, that looks
pretty  good,  Next best thing would be standing neked under a waterfall !
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 1/24/2013 6:20:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

HOW  CAN I GROUND MYSELF BEFORE BED, TO DISSIPATE THE BUILT UP RADIATION IN
MY  BODY?  HOW CAN I GET THIS RADIATION OUT OF ME BEFORE I GET UNDER THE  
CANOPY?  

ANYONE have any answers or suggestions?  What has  worked for you?  Does
anyone even know what to do or is just a  guess?  Do you have any links of
someone who knows what to do that is  effective?  Thanks.

C.  Johnson



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Can you post the link to Next UP? by the way, the water they use in their fountains used to rinse hands/feet/ headsis a special hexonal treated water.  I don't know "how" they make the water, I do know that the cosmic energy stones I usehave helped us tremendously.  Lizzie
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From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:21:23 -0500
Subject: Re: [eSens] Grounding Pent Up Radiation
















 



 


   
     
     
      How about some form of earthed bath arrangement, obviously not earthed to  

the mains ! Full body imersion into some kind of fluid such as salt water

could  be good also, vigerous exercise ? If you look up NextUp site there are

pictures  on there of the deguass douching/shoer arrangement, that looks

pretty  good,  Next best thing would be standing neked under a waterfall !

 

puk

 

 

In a message dated 1/24/2013 6:20:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  

[hidden email] writes:



HOW  CAN I GROUND MYSELF BEFORE BED, TO DISSIPATE THE BUILT UP RADIATION IN

MY  BODY?  HOW CAN I GET THIS RADIATION OUT OF ME BEFORE I GET UNDER THE  

CANOPY?  



ANYONE have any answers or suggestions?  What has  worked for you?  Does

anyone even know what to do or is just a  guess?  Do you have any links of

someone who knows what to do that is  effective?  Thanks.



C.  Johnson



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i am seeing an acupuncturist.  he says that i have too
much "heat" and he is helping my body release that
heat.  i think that 'heat' is radiation.  and it appears
to be helping.  
patricia

There are a number of glands in the body that control heat ? Personally I  
think most of the Es problem is based on a highly defensive immune system  
coupled with genetic memory for EMF plus psychosomatic confounders..........  
plus usual topographical/anthropometrical anomolies/variations
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 1/25/2013 1:21:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
i am seeing an acupuncturist. he says that i have too
much "heat" and  he is helping my body release that
heat. i think that 'heat' is radiation.  and it appears
to be helping.
patricia

> In a message dated  1/24/2013 6:20:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> _superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  writes:
>  
> HOW CAN I GROUND MYSELF BEFORE BED, TO DISSIPATE THE BUILT UP  RADIATION
IN
> MY BODY? HOW CAN I GET THIS RADIATION OUT OF ME BEFORE I  GET UNDER THE
> CANOPY?
>
> ANYONE have any answers or  suggestions? What has worked for you? Does
> anyone even know what to  do or is just a guess? Do you have any links of
> someone who knows  what to do that is effective? Thanks.
>
> C. Johnson
>  






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Say what?

Speak English please. Chances
are, if  those last few lines

were lost on me, I wasn’t the
only one! (Smiling)

 

As for glands that control heat?

The thyroid gland regulates the
temperatures in the body,

much like a thermostat does.

 

However, if the Adrenal glands

are low, the thyroid cannot do
its job, as both these glands,

the Thyroid and the Adrenals work
together, like best friends.

 

The term: Heat, when used in the
ancient arts, (such as Acupuncture/

Accupressure, ect)

means out of balance.  

 

This is  translated to electrical meridians being
blocked, the flow of

the body's electrical system is
impeded, as in blocked.

It creates cold areas and hot
areas.

 

Much like a furnace's duct
system, where the ducts are either not open

or blocked. Or a plugged water
line, it crimps up, very much like our body

does, when the flow of energy is
blocked.

 

Sometimes one will actually “feel”
the blockage, in the form of cramping, or soreness/tenderness. Try this: press
your fingers on the bottom of your foot, towards the center, find that spot that
is tender. THIS, is an electrical blockage and a common one that gets blocked
by emfs/dirty electricity/ wireless.  Now that you have found this tender spot, use two fingers (pointer and middle fingers) to press on this spot,firmly but not brutally....for one minute. You will probably feel "an opening" of energy. Sometimes, depending upon how long this blockage has been there, you may have to repeat this procedure, 3-4 times a day. I did this particular spot every day!

 

The other common area is on the
outside of your upper arms, midway between the elbow and the shoulder. Explore
with your fingers, the part of this area, facing away from the body. Those
tender areas are a blockage!

 

 

Emfs from my experience, do cause
energy/electrical blockages. I used to do

the Accupressure/Reflexology
treatments every morning.  (this is like accupunture WITHOUT

the needles, you use your finger
tips instead- much cheaper, no need to visit

an office,

 

and as most of these
practitioner's offices will have wireless, whether its

the office itself, or the
clients, in the waiting rooms) learning to do these treatments avoids

what I view, as both, an unnecessary
expense and an un necessary exposure to wireless.

An excellent book for learning to
do your own Reflexology or Accupressure is:

“Healing With Pressure Point
Therapy” by Jack Forem and Steve Shimer, you can find this at: www.amazon.com

 

It is easy to learn. My daughter,
back when she was severely ES, had an ear-ache that none of my natural remedies
worked. No wonder! It was not an ear infection at all! It was an electrical
blockage. And once I used the finger point therapy, the ear-ache went away!

 

Blessings,

Lizzie


 To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 05:37:08 -0500
Subject: Re: [eSens] Grounding Pent Up Radiation
















 



 


   
     
     
      There are a number of glands in the body that control heat ? Personally I  

think most of the Es problem is based on a highly defensive immune system  

coupled with genetic memory for EMF plus psychosomatic confounders..........  

plus usual topographical/anthropometrical anomolies/variations

 

puk

 

 

In a message dated 1/25/2013 1:21:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  

[hidden email] writes:



i am seeing an acupuncturist. he says that i have too

much "heat" and  he is helping my body release that

heat. i think that 'heat' is radiation.  and it appears

to be helping.

patricia



> In a message dated  1/24/2013 6:20:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> _superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  writes:

>  

> HOW CAN I GROUND MYSELF BEFORE BED, TO DISSIPATE THE BUILT UP  RADIATION

IN

> MY BODY? HOW CAN I GET THIS RADIATION OUT OF ME BEFORE I  GET UNDER THE

> CANOPY?

>

> ANYONE have any answers or  suggestions? What has worked for you? Does

> anyone even know what to  do or is just a guess? Do you have any links of

> someone who knows  what to do that is effective? Thanks.

>

> C. Johnson

>  



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From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Grounding Pent Up Radiation
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Saturday, January 26, 2013, 8:52 AM




Say what?

Speak English please. Chances
are, if  those last few lines

were lost on me, I wasn’t the
only one! (Smiling)



As for glands that control heat?

The thyroid gland regulates the
temperatures in the body,

much like a thermostat does.



However, if the Adrenal glands

are low, the thyroid cannot do
its job, as both these glands,

the Thyroid and the Adrenals work
together, like best friends.



The term: Heat, when used in the
ancient arts, (such as Acupuncture/

Accupressure, ect)

means out of balance. 



This is  translated to electrical meridians being
blocked, the flow of

the body's electrical system is
impeded, as in blocked.

It creates cold areas and hot
areas.



Much like a furnace's duct
system, where the ducts are either not open

or blocked. Or a plugged water
line, it crimps up, very much like our body

does, when the flow of energy is
blocked.



Sometimes one will actually “feel”
the blockage, in the form of cramping, or soreness/tenderness. Try this: press
your fingers on the bottom of your foot, towards the center, find that spot that
is tender. THIS, is an electrical blockage and a common one that gets blocked
by emfs/dirty electricity/ wireless.  Now that you have found this tender spot, use two fingers (pointer and middle fingers) to press on this spot,firmly but not brutally....for one minute. You will probably feel "an opening" of energy. Sometimes, depending upon how long this blockage has been there, you may have to repeat this procedure, 3-4 times a day. I did this particular spot every day!



The other common area is on the
outside of your upper arms, midway between the elbow and the shoulder. Explore
with your fingers, the part of this area, facing away from the body. Those
tender areas are a blockage!





Emfs from my experience, do cause
energy/electrical blockages. I used to do

the Accupressure/Reflexology
treatments every morning.  (this is like accupunture WITHOUT

the needles, you use your finger
tips instead- much cheaper, no need to visit

an office,



and as most of these
practitioner's offices will have wireless, whether its

the office itself, or the
clients, in the waiting rooms) learning to do these treatments avoids

what I view, as both, an unnecessary
expense and an un necessary exposure to wireless.

An excellent book for learning to
do your own Reflexology or Accupressure is:

“Healing With Pressure Point
Therapy” by Jack Forem and Steve Shimer, you can find this at: www.amazon.com



It is easy to learn. My daughter,
back when she was severely ES, had an ear-ache that none of my natural remedies
worked. No wonder! It was not an ear infection at all! It was an electrical
blockage. And once I used the finger point therapy, the ear-ache went away!



Blessings,

Lizzie


To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 05:37:08 -0500
Subject: Re: [eSens] Grounding Pent Up Radiation




















 


   
     
     
      There are a number of glands in the body that control heat ? Personally I 

think most of the Es problem is based on a highly defensive immune system 

coupled with genetic memory for EMF plus psychosomatic confounders.......... 

plus usual topographical/anthropometrical anomolies/variations



puk





In a message dated 1/25/2013 1:21:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 

[hidden email] writes:



i am seeing an acupuncturist. he says that i have too

much "heat" and  he is helping my body release that

heat. i think that 'heat' is radiation.  and it appears

to be helping.

patricia



> In a message dated  1/24/2013 6:20:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> _superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  writes:

> 

> HOW CAN I GROUND MYSELF BEFORE BED, TO DISSIPATE THE BUILT UP  RADIATION

IN

> MY BODY? HOW CAN I GET THIS RADIATION OUT OF ME BEFORE I  GET UNDER THE

> CANOPY?

>

> ANYONE have any answers or  suggestions? What has worked for you? Does

> anyone even know what to  do or is just a guess? Do you have any links of

> someone who knows  what to do that is effective? Thanks.

>

> C. Johnson

> 



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Lizzie!!! Write a book!


Mahalo,
Christin Brezil (Lussier)
Grain-Free Granola Head,
wife to my best friend Thomas and momma to 3 boys
{ Dylan Bryce 11 }
{ Evan Lane 6 }
{ Lucian Kai 3 }
 
 "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication."
 ~ Leonardo da Vinci

http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin
http://www.westonaprice.org/
http://www.gaps.me/ 

On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:52 AM, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

     There is an relatively short article/study that you should read - it is called Microwaves Imitate Pesticides and is by Lucinda Grant. Microwaves radiation literally poisons us , the mechanism is exactly the same as organophosphate pesticides.   If anyone here has MCS then they are probably familiar with how much harm these pesticides do.

          blessings
                 Shan


Exceprts:

Although not all cases of ES report chemical exposure related to their ES onset, the MCS-related ES cases provide us with an interesting link to radiation health effects by under- standing chemical effects. For example, a well-known health effect of organo- phosphate pesticides (Malathion, Par- athion, etc.) is their ability to reduce the function of the body's cholinesterase enzyme.1.2.3.4 Cholinesterase is an important nervous system enzyme that prevents excessive accumulation of acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter. 1.4,5 By inhibiting cholinesterase and thus causing an excess of acetylcholine, organophosphate pesticides overstimulate the nervous system, resulting in death in cases of acute poisoning. 2.35,6 These pesticides are chemically related to the even more deadly military nerve gases, such as Sarin, which use the same mechanism of action - inhibiting cholinesterase.6

13 Ac- cording to the U.S. National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH), when organophosphate pesticide exposure results in a decrease of blood cholinesterase to less than 70% of the pre-exposure level, that exposure is considered unacceptable due to the health hazard.2  A 1994 Soviet study by the Russian Institute of Cell Biophysics produced an average drop in brain cholinesterase to 70% of preexposure levels in rats after one 60-minute exposure to pulsed 880 MHz at 1.5mW/cm2.14 Also, a U.S. government study con- ducted in cooperation with Soviet researchers in an effort to replicate Soviet findings discovered that microwaves of 2.45 GHz at.5MW/CM2 intensity resulted in blood cholinesterase inhibition in rats exposed during three months for seven hours daily.15 This study confirmed prior Soviet accounts of non-thermal micro- wave health effects.


The importance of this enzyme effect in producing ES-type symptoms from chemicals and from chronic, low- level EMF exposures leads to a mechanism of action for explaining many EMF-related health effects by using conventional medical and scientific knowledge of poisons.  

That radiation exposure at non-thermal, non-ionizing doses can produce the same effect as chemical poisons such as organophosphate pesticides provides sound evidence for a radiation poisoning effect.

It also may explain why some MCS patients become ES, too, and why some ES patients also become MCS. The agents are different (chemical versus physical), but the effect is the same - inhibiting cholinesterase


            This has 16 references which I have checked out.


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Thank you!

 

I like that:
"Grain-Free Granola Head!"

Leonardo was
right!

 

Here's another
good one:

"When health is absent, wisdom cannot reveal itself;
art cannot become manifest; strength cannot be exerted; wealth is useless, and
reason is powerless"



¯ Heterophiles

LizzieCC: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:40:01 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] Grounding Pent Up Radiation
















 



 


   
     
     
      Lizzie!!! Write a book!



Mahalo,

Christin Brezil (Lussier)

Grain-Free Granola Head,

wife to my best friend Thomas and momma to 3 boys

{ Dylan Bryce 11 }

{ Evan Lane 6 }

{ Lucian Kai 3 }

 

 "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication."

 ~ Leonardo da Vinci



http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin

http://www.westonaprice.org/

http://www.gaps.me/ 



On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:52 AM, Elizabeth thode [hidden email]> wrote:



>

>

> Say what?

>

> Speak English please. Chances

> are, if  those last few lines

>

> were lost on me, I wasn't the

> only one! (Smiling)

>

>

>

> As for glands that control heat?

>

> The thyroid gland regulates the

> temperatures in the body,

>

> much like a thermostat does.

>

>

>

> However, if the Adrenal glands

>

> are low, the thyroid cannot do

> its job, as both these glands,

>

> the Thyroid and the Adrenals work

> together, like best friends.

>

>

>

> The term: Heat, when used in the

> ancient arts, (such as Acupuncture/

>

> Accupressure, ect)

>

> means out of balance.  

>

>

>

> This is  translated to electrical meridians being

> blocked, the flow of

>

> the body's electrical system is

> impeded, as in blocked.

>

> It creates cold areas and hot

> areas.

>

>

>

> Much like a furnace's duct

> system, where the ducts are either not open

>

> or blocked. Or a plugged water

> line, it crimps up, very much like our body

>

> does, when the flow of energy is

> blocked.

>

>

>

> Sometimes one will actually "feel"

> the blockage, in the form of cramping, or soreness/tenderness. Try this: press

> your fingers on the bottom of your foot, towards the center, find that spot that

> is tender. THIS, is an electrical blockage and a common one that gets blocked

> by emfs/dirty electricity/ wireless.  Now that you have found this tender spot, use two fingers (pointer and middle fingers) to press on this spot,firmly but not brutally....for one minute. You will probably feel "an opening" of energy. Sometimes, depending upon how long this blockage has been there, you may have to repeat this procedure, 3-4 times a day. I did this particular spot every day!

>

>

>

> The other common area is on the

> outside of your upper arms, midway between the elbow and the shoulder. Explore

> with your fingers, the part of this area, facing away from the body. Those

> tender areas are a blockage!

>

>

>

>

>

> Emfs from my experience, do cause

> energy/electrical blockages. I used to do

>

> the Accupressure/Reflexology

> treatments every morning.  (this is like accupunture WITHOUT

>

> the needles, you use your finger

> tips instead- much cheaper, no need to visit

>

> an office,

>

>

>

> and as most of these

> practitioner's offices will have wireless, whether its

>

> the office itself, or the

> clients, in the waiting rooms) learning to do these treatments avoids

>

> what I view, as both, an unnecessary

> expense and an un necessary exposure to wireless.

>

> An excellent book for learning to

> do your own Reflexology or Accupressure is:

>

> "Healing With Pressure Point

> Therapy" by Jack Forem and Steve Shimer, you can find this at: www.amazon.com

>

>

>

> It is easy to learn. My daughter,

> back when she was severely ES, had an ear-ache that none of my natural remedies

> worked. No wonder! It was not an ear infection at all! It was an electrical

> blockage. And once I used the finger point therapy, the ear-ache went away!

>

>

>

> Blessings,

>

> Lizzie

>

>

> To: [hidden email]

> From: [hidden email]

> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 05:37:08 -0500

> Subject: Re: [eSens] Grounding Pent Up Radiation

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>      There are a number of glands in the body that control heat ? Personally I  

>

> think most of the Es problem is based on a highly defensive immune system  

>

> coupled with genetic memory for EMF plus psychosomatic confounders..........  

>

> plus usual topographical/anthropometrical anomolies/variations

>

>

>

> puk

>

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 1/25/2013 1:21:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  

>

> [hidden email] writes:

>

>

>

> i am seeing an acupuncturist. he says that i have too

>

> much "heat" and  he is helping my body release that

>

> heat. i think that 'heat' is radiation.  and it appears

>

> to be helping.

>

> patricia

>

>

>

>> In a message dated  1/24/2013 6:20:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

>

>> _superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  writes:

>

>

>> HOW CAN I GROUND MYSELF BEFORE BED, TO DISSIPATE THE BUILT UP  RADIATION

>

> IN

>

>> MY BODY? HOW CAN I GET THIS RADIATION OUT OF ME BEFORE I  GET UNDER THE

>

>> CANOPY?

>

>

>> ANYONE have any answers or  suggestions? What has worked for you? Does

>

>> anyone even know what to  do or is just a guess? Do you have any links of

>

>> someone who knows  what to do that is effective? Thanks.

>

>

>> C. Johnson

>

>

>

>

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