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Elizabeth thode
 

This is probably part of it.
Lucinda wrote that book in 1995 though. She is correct, all elements do have a
charge. This is why when water is contaminated, it will hold
"current".

And the higher the contaminants,
the higher the current. This is how the co's who own those Reverse Osmosis
water machines in grocery stores, check if the filters need replacing. They use
an EC meter, which  measures Electrical
Conductivity.

 

And on the subject of water:

www.homefacts.com
will tell home buyers how many underground storage leaks are in their area.
These are underground tanks that hold gas, think: Petro chemicals.

And when Lead and Cadmium are
combined with Fluoride, this becomes a super toxic combination.

 

And if those leaks are in the
bleed path of a house, and the city has old water pipes, many of those drains
are broken, which is how the groundwater and the filtered water becomes
contaminated.

 

Mostly, the way I see it, emfs'
damage the blood brain barriers and can damage any blood membranes, causing
them to spring leaks and holes. And then the chemical exposures get INTO the
blood, thereby poisoning the system.

 

Bad wiring in houses is more
common than we think it is. Over loaded circuits are also common. The grid is
and has been antiquidated, not well maintained at all. So sources of emfs
strong enough to cause damage can go back 50 years.

 

Most of the houses back then were
wired for 110, not 220 as many/if not most are wired, today (in the US,anyway).
Hair dryers became very popular back then, and do pull alot of electricity. I
can remember blowing fuses often, with having many sisters, who used hair
dryers and the hot curlers.

 

Lizzie

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           There is an relatively short article/study that you should read - it is called Microwaves Imitate Pesticides and is by Lucinda Grant. Microwaves radiation literally poisons us , the mechanism is exactly the same as organophosphate pesticides.   If anyone here has MCS then they are probably familiar with how much harm these pesticides do.



blessings

                 Shan



Exceprts:



Although not all cases of ES report chemical exposure related to their ES onset, the MCS-related ES cases provide us with an interesting link to radiation health effects by under- standing chemical effects. For example, a well-known health effect of organo- phosphate pesticides (Malathion, Par- athion, etc.) is their ability to reduce the function of the body's cholinesterase enzyme.1.2.3.4 Cholinesterase is an important nervous system enzyme that prevents excessive accumulation of acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter. 1.4,5 By inhibiting cholinesterase and thus causing an excess of acetylcholine, organophosphate pesticides overstimulate the nervous system, resulting in death in cases of acute poisoning. 2.35,6 These pesticides are chemically related to the even more deadly military nerve gases, such as Sarin, which use the same mechanism of action - inhibiting cholinesterase.6



13 Ac- cording to the U.S. National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH), when organophosphate pesticide exposure results in a decrease of blood cholinesterase to less than 70% of the pre-exposure level, that exposure is considered unacceptable due to the health hazard.2  A 1994 Soviet study by the Russian Institute of Cell Biophysics produced an average drop in brain cholinesterase to 70% of preexposure levels in rats after one 60-minute exposure to pulsed 880 MHz at 1.5mW/cm2.14 Also, a U.S. government study con- ducted in cooperation with Soviet researchers in an effort to replicate Soviet findings discovered that microwaves of 2.45 GHz at.5MW/CM2 intensity resulted in blood cholinesterase inhibition in rats exposed during three months for seven hours daily.15 This study confirmed prior Soviet accounts of non-thermal micro- wave health effects.



The importance of this enzyme effect in producing ES-type symptoms from chemicals and from chronic, low- level EMF exposures leads to a mechanism of action for explaining many EMF-related health effects by using conventional medical and scientific knowledge of poisons.  



That radiation exposure at non-thermal, non-ionizing doses can produce the same effect as chemical poisons such as organophosphate pesticides provides sound evidence for a radiation poisoning effect.



It also may explain why some MCS patients become ES, too, and why some ES patients also become MCS. The agents are different (chemical versus physical), but the effect is the same - inhibiting cholinesterase



This has 16 references which I have checked out.



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> There are a number of glands in the body that control heat ? Personally I  

> think most of the Es problem is based on a highly defensive immune system  

> coupled with genetic memory for EMF plus psychosomatic confounders..........  

> plus usual topographical/anthropometrical anomolies/variations

>  

> puk

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>  

> In a message dated 1/25/2013 1:21:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  

> patricia@... writes:

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>  

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> i am seeing an acupuncturist. he says that i have too

> much "heat" and  he is helping my body release that

> heat. i think that 'heat' is radiation.  and it appears

> to be helping.

> patricia

>

> > In a message dated  1/24/2013 6:20:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> > _superdrove@..._ (mailto:superdrove@...)  writes:

> >  

> > HOW CAN I GROUND MYSELF BEFORE BED, TO DISSIPATE THE BUILT UP  RADIATION

> IN

> > MY BODY? HOW CAN I GET THIS RADIATION OUT OF ME BEFORE I  GET UNDER THE

> > CANOPY?

> >

> > ANYONE have any answers or  suggestions? What has worked for you? Does

> > anyone even know what to  do or is just a guess? Do you have any links of

> > someone who knows  what to do that is effective? Thanks.

> >

> > C. Johnson

> >  

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C.a.b. Johnson
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Lizzie,

Thanks for the directions for the ceramic planter grounding method again.  We need to be reminded once in awhile.  I already bought two large clay pots about 8  months ago and still haven't set them up.  So now, I will do that, but I have a couple questions. 

What kind of grounding fabric should one use?  I don't mind putting grounding fabric with silver or stainless steel threads in it, under the mattress or on the floor, but putting it under the bottom sheet you sleep on bothers me because with all the rolling around during the night a body does, the silver or stainless threads in the fabric will get broken down and I worry about the fabric loosing effectiveness, and flaking of metal particles getting embedded in the sheets, breathing it in, and so on.  So why does the grounding fabric have to be under the bottom sheet you sleep on?   Why not over the top sheet?  I have some shielding fabric over my top sheet. with a blanket on top of it. 

Can the ceramic planter grounding method be used to ground a Faraday Cage around the bed, made out of aluminum or brass screen material or perhaps a canopy? In that case, would there have to be a ceramic planter on each of the four sides of the Faraday Cage, or canopy, because if you extend wires from the four sides to one or two pots, the wire would obviously be longer than 12 inches.  How many grounding cords are required for a four sided Farady Cage made of screen?

Besides just grounding oneself in bed, what other techniques can be used to try and get the radiation to dissipate from the body before you get into bed?  I wish someone would make a machine that could drain the excess voltage from the body just by touching it.  How can one do that?  By touching an alligator clip connected to ground?  Would that actually drain the excess voltage out of the body?  What about those water techniques?  If the water is carrying voltage, would that work?

I think it is important for people on this list to investigate this subject and establish some working techniques that can be used to dissipate pent up radiation.  Being exposed to radiation is bad, but carrying that radiation around in the body is very bad.  I guess the first place to start would be in trying to understand what is being absorbed, and if that translates in to being voltage in the body, or is it cell stress, histamine reaction, or exactly what???? Then once that is known, we can figure out how to nullify or lessen it.  As you said, it is not advisable to get under the canopy when you are full or radiation.  So what to do????

Thanks for any input.

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee


--- On Fri, 1/25/13, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:




















 


   
     
     
      I have sent you a sheet on how to use a bed grounding system
with OUT using the water pipe. Water pipes can have alot of RF frequency
 piggyback on them, and also can have HIGH magnetic fields. I read years
 ago, to NOT use water pipes for grounding.  Lizzie

























Bed grounding system using ceramic
planter

 

Supplies:


1.   Enough
grounding fabric to cover the bed (some people use a piece big enough to cover
only half of the bed)

 

2.   One
copper rod, 6 inches long, ½ inch in diameter.

3.   Two
alligator clips, attached to plastic coated wiring.

4.   The
above wiring length should be NO longer then 12 inches long.

5.   One
ceramic planter, 4-5 gallon size works best.- Make sure planter has drainage
holes in bottom.

6.   Enough
soil/dirt to fill above planter to 2 inches below the lip. This soil needs good
mixture, not too much clay, not too sandy. Other wise- too much clay the soil
won’t drain well, too much sand, drains too well. You want the soil to hold
some moisture.

7.   Spring
water to keep dirt moist.

8.   A
shallow container for the bottom of the planter, to protect flooring from over
drainage. Shallow plastic large Tupperware will also work.

9.   Plumbers
Sanding  tape. This is for sanding off
the copper rod every so often, to make sure the copper is holding the charge,
discharging. It will turn cloudy after so many months.

Instructions:

1.  
Place grounding fabric under
the bottom sheet.

2.  
Make sure the planter ‘s
drain holes are open.

3.  
Fill planter with soil/dirt
mix.

4.  
Place at/near foot of the
bed.

5.  
Put copper rod in the center
of the pot, leave 2 inches sticking up.

6.  
Water the dirt.

7.  
Attach one end of alligator
clip to bottom of grounding fabric.

8.  
Attach other end to the
copper rod.

9.  
Keep water bottle next to
planter, and make sure the dirt is MOIST.

10.               
DO NOT LET THE DIRT GO DRY!









 










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C.a.b. Johnson
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Thanks Lizzie for the info on the Cosmic Stones. Can you use distilled or spring water out of plastic jugs with them?

I have not drank a drop of tap water in over 20 years.  The only uncooked tap water I may have gotten is if I had a salad in a restaurant.. I never order ice in my drinks.   I drink Crystal Gyser, Distilled or Spring Water out of the plsstic jug that I buy at the store.

As far as the water technique, I was wondering about those grounding stations they have in France where you can wet your hair and feet at a special grounded fountain to dissipate pent up radiation.  www.Next Up.orgHow is kinda hard to navigate and I can't find it now.  How could one make one of those for home use?


C. Johnson
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Wireless Refugee


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Good memory.



I used filtered

water, no Fluoride, and bought these cosmic stones from www.globallight.net



Look under

Water Transformation.



I used 3 of

these balls, in a glass milk jug, and let the water sit to activate for 6 hrs.



I had many of

these jugs going, and i used masking tape, to write the date and time



on the milk

cap, so I could keep track of how long the water had been activated.



I still use

this today. It is the most awesome water, those stones change the formation



of the water,

and drinking this water is amazing.



You can read

the info on the above site. It changes the Bovis reading on the water.



This is the

water we used to discharge excess static off of our heads/hair.



But, the water

used cannot BE tap water, or contaminated water filtered thru a reverse

osmosis.



If you suspect

your water is contaminated, do what you have to do, to get as clean of water as



you can.



The water in my

area, IS contaminated by leaking udnerground storage tanks.



So I get my water from the Krogers in the next town up, from their Reverse

Osmosis machine.



You can buy jugs,fill em, and save the jugs and refill em. It costs me .39

cents a re fill.



LizzieTo: [hidden email]

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:57:43 -0800

Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: How to deal with ES while living in an apartment?



Lizzie,



You talked in the last year or two, about the technique you use to dissipate built up radiation by wetting your head and feet with special water.  Could you elaborate on that again or point me to where it is in the archives?  Thanks



C. Johnson



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The canopy works well, or did for us, as long as the person sleeping inside of the canopy isn't heavily irradiated.



Otherwise, the body being RF'd, will also lock in the radiation to the sleep area.





 










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RE: Grounding Pent Up Radiation

Elizabeth thode
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Hi C,  Wow! That's quite a platter of questions you have. I will answer as best as I can. But first, a few reminders. I tend to focus on the root causes of conditions. As I see it, at the "root" of ES and probably every other health condition are the unsafe/harmful technologies. This includes the antiquidated grid system, the smart meters, the cell towers, all wireless, the not so "stray' voltage all around us, and tons of dirty elecricity. So absolutely, we have to focus on how to best help ourselves, while under this onslaught of emfs. But we owe it to ourselves , and to are children, to demand the advanced technologies that already exist, that are SAFE, be brought out. Otherwise, we are constantly plugging up leaks in a boat, and never solving what's causing all these leaks. It feels to me-  there are two issues blocking this. The first is the political/big oil and second is with humanity herself. The first block will roll down and crumble, when enough of US demand the new advancd energies, that already exist! But I hear so many say: we have no power.  Really? If I had believed I had no power, my daughter wouldn't be well today! I found ways to help her body heal, because I refused to take "no" for an answer.  What we believe is what we will get. If the majority of people truly believe they have no power, that "is" what they will get.On the other hand, when the many combine their thoughts/beliefs to a belief that says we DO have power, that too, is what we will get.Our belief systems rule our lives. Outwardly and inner wardly.  We've been treating the symptoms all along. What I say to all of you today; is we can do BOTH! We can continue to treat the symptoms because we have to....but, we can also change from giving our power away to taking it back and claiming it.  And we do this by demanding the release of the advanced SAFE technologies. They already exist! We need to pull this from the warehouses to our houses, our cities, our towns, our states, and our countries.Does anyone know how to write up a petition, this time, not demandng they stop the cell towers, ect, but demandng the release of the advanced technologies, which will replace all of this dangerous crap we have now.  Next issue: We are frequency beings. Anyone see the movie/dvd "Beings of Resonance?" If you haven't, gooogle it. Thougths are frequencies. Negative thoughts, anger, ect are lower frequencies. Yes, I fully realize having lived there, in those lower frequencies for a long time, it is easy to be angry, to be frustrated, ect. But the fact remains, we can choose whether we spend our energy being angry or we spend our energy being grateful. Gratitude is a holy Powerful frequency.    
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      Lizzie,



Thanks for the directions for the ceramic planter grounding method again.  We need to be reminded once in awhile.  I already bought two large clay pots about 8  months ago and still haven't set them up.  So now, I will do that, but I have a couple questions.  



What kind of grounding fabric should one use?  I don't mind putting grounding fabric with silver or stainless steel threads in it, under the mattress or on the floor, but putting it under the bottom sheet you sleep on bothers me because with all the rolling around during the night a body does, the silver or stainless threads in the fabric will get broken down and I worry about the fabric loosing effectiveness, and flaking of metal particles getting embedded in the sheets, breathing it in, and so on.  So why does the grounding fabric have to be under the bottom sheet you sleep on?   Why not over the top sheet?  I have some shielding fabric over my top sheet. with a blanket on top of it.  



Can the ceramic planter grounding method be used to ground a Faraday Cage around the bed, made out of aluminum or brass screen material or perhaps a canopy? In that case, would there have to be a ceramic planter on each of the four sides of the Faraday Cage, or canopy, because if you extend wires from the four sides to one or two pots, the wire would obviously be longer than 12 inches.  How many grounding cords are required for a four sided Farady Cage made of screen?



Besides just grounding oneself in bed, what other techniques can be used to try and get the radiation to dissipate from the body before you get into bed?  I wish someone would make a machine that could drain the excess voltage from the body just by touching it.  How can one do that?  By touching an alligator clip connected to ground?  Would that actually drain the excess voltage out of the body?  What about those water techniques?  If the water is carrying voltage, would that work?



I think it is important for people on this list to investigate this subject and establish some working techniques that can be used to dissipate pent up radiation.  Being exposed to radiation is bad, but carrying that radiation around in the body is very bad.  I guess the first place to start would be in trying to understand what is being absorbed, and if that translates in to being voltage in the body, or is it cell stress, histamine reaction, or exactly what???? Then once that is known, we can figure out how to nullify or lessen it.  As you said, it is not advisable to get under the canopy when you are full or radiation.  So what to do????



Thanks for any input.



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



--- On Fri, 1/25/13, Elizabeth thode [hidden email]> wrote:



I have sent you a sheet on how to use a bed grounding system

with OUT using the water pipe. Water pipes can have alot of RF frequency

 piggyback on them, and also can have HIGH magnetic fields. I read years

 ago, to NOT use water pipes for grounding.  Lizzie



Bed grounding system using ceramic

planter



 



Supplies:



1.   Enough

grounding fabric to cover the bed (some people use a piece big enough to cover

only half of the bed)



 



2.   One

copper rod, 6 inches long, ½ inch in diameter.



3.   Two

alligator clips, attached to plastic coated wiring.



4.   The

above wiring length should be NO longer then 12 inches long.



5.   One

ceramic planter, 4-5 gallon size works best.- Make sure planter has drainage

holes in bottom.



6.   Enough

soil/dirt to fill above planter to 2 inches below the lip. This soil needs good

mixture, not too much clay, not too sandy. Other wise- too much clay the soil

won’t drain well, too much sand, drains too well. You want the soil to hold

some moisture.



7.   Spring

water to keep dirt moist.



8.   A

shallow container for the bottom of the planter, to protect flooring from over

drainage. Shallow plastic large Tupperware will also work.



9.   Plumbers

Sanding  tape. This is for sanding off

the copper rod every so often, to make sure the copper is holding the charge,

discharging. It will turn cloudy after so many months.



Instructions:



1.  

Place grounding fabric under

the bottom sheet.



2.  

Make sure the planter ‘s

drain holes are open.



3.  

Fill planter with soil/dirt

mix.



4.  

Place at/near foot of the

bed.



5.  

Put copper rod in the center

of the pot, leave 2 inches sticking up.



6.  

Water the dirt.



7.  

Attach one end of alligator

clip to bottom of grounding fabric.



8.  

Attach other end to the

copper rod.



9.  

Keep water bottle next to

planter, and make sure the dirt is MOIST.



10.              

DO NOT LET THE DIRT GO DRY!



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This will be part 2. I hit the send button before I was done, and forgive me, the format will probably be challenging to read. So I will re do it, and then address your questions. Lizzie
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      Lizzie,



Thanks for the directions for the ceramic planter grounding method again.  We need to be reminded once in awhile.  I already bought two large clay pots about 8  months ago and still haven't set them up.  So now, I will do that, but I have a couple questions.  



What kind of grounding fabric should one use?  I don't mind putting grounding fabric with silver or stainless steel threads in it, under the mattress or on the floor, but putting it under the bottom sheet you sleep on bothers me because with all the rolling around during the night a body does, the silver or stainless threads in the fabric will get broken down and I worry about the fabric loosing effectiveness, and flaking of metal particles getting embedded in the sheets, breathing it in, and so on.  So why does the grounding fabric have to be under the bottom sheet you sleep on?   Why not over the top sheet?  I have some shielding fabric over my top sheet. with a blanket on top of it.  



Can the ceramic planter grounding method be used to ground a Faraday Cage around the bed, made out of aluminum or brass screen material or perhaps a canopy? In that case, would there have to be a ceramic planter on each of the four sides of the Faraday Cage, or canopy, because if you extend wires from the four sides to one or two pots, the wire would obviously be longer than 12 inches.  How many grounding cords are required for a four sided Farady Cage made of screen?



Besides just grounding oneself in bed, what other techniques can be used to try and get the radiation to dissipate from the body before you get into bed?  I wish someone would make a machine that could drain the excess voltage from the body just by touching it.  How can one do that?  By touching an alligator clip connected to ground?  Would that actually drain the excess voltage out of the body?  What about those water techniques?  If the water is carrying voltage, would that work?



I think it is important for people on this list to investigate this subject and establish some working techniques that can be used to dissipate pent up radiation.  Being exposed to radiation is bad, but carrying that radiation around in the body is very bad.  I guess the first place to start would be in trying to understand what is being absorbed, and if that translates in to being voltage in the body, or is it cell stress, histamine reaction, or exactly what???? Then once that is known, we can figure out how to nullify or lessen it.  As you said, it is not advisable to get under the canopy when you are full or radiation.  So what to do????



Thanks for any input.



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



--- On Fri, 1/25/13, Elizabeth thode [hidden email]> wrote:



I have sent you a sheet on how to use a bed grounding system

with OUT using the water pipe. Water pipes can have alot of RF frequency

 piggyback on them, and also can have HIGH magnetic fields. I read years

 ago, to NOT use water pipes for grounding.  Lizzie



Bed grounding system using ceramic

planter



 



Supplies:



1.   Enough

grounding fabric to cover the bed (some people use a piece big enough to cover

only half of the bed)



 



2.   One

copper rod, 6 inches long, ½ inch in diameter.



3.   Two

alligator clips, attached to plastic coated wiring.



4.   The

above wiring length should be NO longer then 12 inches long.



5.   One

ceramic planter, 4-5 gallon size works best.- Make sure planter has drainage

holes in bottom.



6.   Enough

soil/dirt to fill above planter to 2 inches below the lip. This soil needs good

mixture, not too much clay, not too sandy. Other wise- too much clay the soil

won’t drain well, too much sand, drains too well. You want the soil to hold

some moisture.



7.   Spring

water to keep dirt moist.



8.   A

shallow container for the bottom of the planter, to protect flooring from over

drainage. Shallow plastic large Tupperware will also work.



9.   Plumbers

Sanding  tape. This is for sanding off

the copper rod every so often, to make sure the copper is holding the charge,

discharging. It will turn cloudy after so many months.



Instructions:



1.  

Place grounding fabric under

the bottom sheet.



2.  

Make sure the planter ‘s

drain holes are open.



3.  

Fill planter with soil/dirt

mix.



4.  

Place at/near foot of the

bed.



5.  

Put copper rod in the center

of the pot, leave 2 inches sticking up.



6.  

Water the dirt.



7.  

Attach one end of alligator

clip to bottom of grounding fabric.



8.  

Attach other end to the

copper rod.



9.  

Keep water bottle next to

planter, and make sure the dirt is MOIST.



10.              

DO NOT LET THE DIRT GO DRY!



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Elizabeth thode
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This is a repeat post, in hopefully an easier format to read.



Wow! That's quite a platter of questions you have. I will answer as best as I
can.



But first, a few reminders.

I tend to focus on the root causes of conditions.



As I see it, at the "root" of ES and probably every other health
condition are the unsafe/harmful technologies. This includes the antiquidated
grid system, the smart meters, the cell towers, all wireless, the not so
"stray' voltage all around us, and tons of dirty electricity.



So absolutely, we have to focus on how to best help ourselves, while under this
onslaught of emfs. But we owe it to ourselves , and to our children, to demand
the advanced technologies that already exist, that are SAFE, be brought out.

Otherwise, we are constantly plugging up leaks in a boat, and never solving
what's causing all these leaks.



It feels to me- there are two issues blocking this.

The first is the political/big oil and second is with humanity herself. The
first block will roll down and crumble, when enough of US demand the new
advancd energies, that already exist! But I hear so many say: we have no power.




Really? If I had believed I had no power, my daughter wouldn't be well today!

I found ways to help her body heal, because I refused to take "no"
for an answer.



What we believe is what we will get. If the majority of people truly believe
they have no power, that "is" what they will get.

On the other hand, when the many combine their thoughts/beliefs to a belief
that says we DO have power, that too, is what we will get.



Our belief systems rule our lives. Outwardly and inner wardly.



We've been treating the symptoms all along. What I say to all of you today; is
we can do BOTH! We can continue to treat the symptoms because we have
to....but, we can also change from giving our power away to taking it back and
claiming it.



And we do this by demanding the release of the advanced SAFE technologies.

They already exist! We need to pull this from the warehouses to our houses, our
cities, our towns, our states, and our countries.



Does anyone know how to write up a petition, this time, not demandng they stop
the cell towers, ect, but demandng the release of the advanced technologies, which
will replace all of this dangerous crap we have now.



Next issue:

We are frequency beings. Anyone see the movie/dvd "Beings of
Resonance?" If you haven't, gooogle it.



Thoughts are frequencies. Negative thoughts, anger, ect are lower frequencies.
Yes, I fully realize having lived there, in those lower frequencies for a long
time, it is easy to be angry, to be frustrated, ect.

But the fact remains, we can
choose whether we spend our energy being angry or we spend our energy being
grateful. Gratitude is a holy Powerful frequency.


 To: [hidden email]
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:41:07 -0800
Subject: RE: [eSens] Grounding Pent Up Radiation
















 



 


   
     
     
      Lizzie,



Thanks for the directions for the ceramic planter grounding method again.  We need to be reminded once in awhile.  I already bought two large clay pots about 8  months ago and still haven't set them up.  So now, I will do that, but I have a couple questions.  



What kind of grounding fabric should one use?  I don't mind putting grounding fabric with silver or stainless steel threads in it, under the mattress or on the floor, but putting it under the bottom sheet you sleep on bothers me because with all the rolling around during the night a body does, the silver or stainless threads in the fabric will get broken down and I worry about the fabric loosing effectiveness, and flaking of metal particles getting embedded in the sheets, breathing it in, and so on.  So why does the grounding fabric have to be under the bottom sheet you sleep on?   Why not over the top sheet?  I have some shielding fabric over my top sheet. with a blanket on top of it.  



Can the ceramic planter grounding method be used to ground a Faraday Cage around the bed, made out of aluminum or brass screen material or perhaps a canopy? In that case, would there have to be a ceramic planter on each of the four sides of the Faraday Cage, or canopy, because if you extend wires from the four sides to one or two pots, the wire would obviously be longer than 12 inches.  How many grounding cords are required for a four sided Farady Cage made of screen?



Besides just grounding oneself in bed, what other techniques can be used to try and get the radiation to dissipate from the body before you get into bed?  I wish someone would make a machine that could drain the excess voltage from the body just by touching it.  How can one do that?  By touching an alligator clip connected to ground?  Would that actually drain the excess voltage out of the body?  What about those water techniques?  If the water is carrying voltage, would that work?



I think it is important for people on this list to investigate this subject and establish some working techniques that can be used to dissipate pent up radiation.  Being exposed to radiation is bad, but carrying that radiation around in the body is very bad.  I guess the first place to start would be in trying to understand what is being absorbed, and if that translates in to being voltage in the body, or is it cell stress, histamine reaction, or exactly what???? Then once that is known, we can figure out how to nullify or lessen it.  As you said, it is not advisable to get under the canopy when you are full or radiation.  So what to do????



Thanks for any input.



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



--- On Fri, 1/25/13, Elizabeth thode [hidden email]> wrote:



I have sent you a sheet on how to use a bed grounding system

with OUT using the water pipe. Water pipes can have alot of RF frequency

 piggyback on them, and also can have HIGH magnetic fields. I read years

 ago, to NOT use water pipes for grounding.  Lizzie



Bed grounding system using ceramic

planter



 



Supplies:



1.   Enough

grounding fabric to cover the bed (some people use a piece big enough to cover

only half of the bed)



 



2.   One

copper rod, 6 inches long, ½ inch in diameter.



3.   Two

alligator clips, attached to plastic coated wiring.



4.   The

above wiring length should be NO longer then 12 inches long.



5.   One

ceramic planter, 4-5 gallon size works best.- Make sure planter has drainage

holes in bottom.



6.   Enough

soil/dirt to fill above planter to 2 inches below the lip. This soil needs good

mixture, not too much clay, not too sandy. Other wise- too much clay the soil

won’t drain well, too much sand, drains too well. You want the soil to hold

some moisture.



7.   Spring

water to keep dirt moist.



8.   A

shallow container for the bottom of the planter, to protect flooring from over

drainage. Shallow plastic large Tupperware will also work.



9.   Plumbers

Sanding  tape. This is for sanding off

the copper rod every so often, to make sure the copper is holding the charge,

discharging. It will turn cloudy after so many months.



Instructions:



1.  

Place grounding fabric under

the bottom sheet.



2.  

Make sure the planter ‘s

drain holes are open.



3.  

Fill planter with soil/dirt

mix.



4.  

Place at/near foot of the

bed.



5.  

Put copper rod in the center

of the pot, leave 2 inches sticking up.



6.  

Water the dirt.



7.  

Attach one end of alligator

clip to bottom of grounding fabric.



8.  

Attach other end to the

copper rod.



9.  

Keep water bottle next to

planter, and make sure the dirt is MOIST.



10.              

DO NOT LET THE DIRT GO DRY!



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Patricia
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can you say more about each of those, puk?  
thanks.  
patricia


On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:37 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> There are a number of glands in the body that control heat ? Personally I  
> think most of the Es problem is based on a highly defensive immune system  
> coupled with genetic memory for EMF plus psychosomatic confounders..........  
> plus usual topographical/anthropometrical anomolies/variations
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> puk


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surpriseshan2
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   You sound as if you have read about Dr Hamer and what is called "German Medicine".

The New Medicine of Dr Hamer
by Walter Last.
Dr Hamer had an exceptionally high success rate with his cancer therapy, by far the highest I have seen of any therapy.  During one of several trials of the persecuted Dr Hamer the public prosecutor (Wiener-Neustadt in Austria) had to admit that after 4 to 5 years 6,000 out of 6,500 patients with mostly advanced cancer were still alive. That is over 90%, almost a reversal of the results to be expected after conventional treatment of advanced conditions.
http://www.health-science-spirit.com/hamer.html

GERMAN NEW MEDICINE® (GNM)
Dr. Hamer's Medical Paradigm at a glance.
Numerous studies had already shown that cancer and other diseases are often preceded by a traumatic event. But Dr.
Hamer took his research a momentous step further. Pursuing the hypothesis that all bodily events are controlled from the brain, he analyzed his patients' brain scans and compared them with their medical records. Dr. Hamer discovered that every disease—not only cancer!—is controlled from its own specific area in the brain and linked to a very particular, identifiable, "conflict shock". The result of his research is a scientific chart that illustrates the biological relationship between the psyche and the brain in correlation with the organs and tissues of the entire human body (the English "Scientific Chart of GNM" is in the works).
http://www.learninggnm.com/documents/Explore%20GNM%20Website%20Update.pdf

                 blessings
                        Shan

--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode  wrote:

>
> Hi C,  Wow! That's quite a platter of questions you have. I will answer as best as I can. But first, a few reminders. I tend to focus on the root causes of conditions. As I see it, at the "root" of ES and probably every other health condition are the unsafe/harmful technologies. This includes the antiquidated grid system, the smart meters, the cell towers, all wireless, the not so "stray' voltage all around us, and tons of dirty elecricity. So absolutely, we have to focus on how to best help ourselves, while under this onslaught of emfs. But we owe it to ourselves , and to are children, to demand the advanced technologies that already exist, that are SAFE, be brought out. Otherwise, we are constantly plugging up leaks in a boat, and never solving what's causing all these leaks. It feels to me-  there are two issues blocking this. The first is the political/big oil and second is with humanity herself. The first block will roll down and crumble, when enough of US demand the new advancd energies, that already exist! But I hear so many say: we have no power.  Really? If I had believed I had no power, my daughter wouldn't be well today! I found ways to help her body heal, because I refused to take "no" for an answer.  What we believe is what we will get. If the majority of people truly believe they have no power, that "is" what they will get.On the other hand, when the many combine their thoughts/beliefs to a belief that says we DO have power, that too, is what we will get.Our belief systems rule our lives. Outwardly and inner wardly.  We've been treating the symptoms all along. What I say to all of you today; is we can do BOTH! We can continue to treat the symptoms because we have to....but, we can also change from giving our power away to taking it back and claiming it.  And we do this by demanding the release of the advanced SAFE technologies. They already exist! We need to pull this from the warehouses to our houses, our cities, our towns, our states, and our countries.Does anyone know how to write up a petition, this time, not demandng they stop the cell towers, ect, but demandng the release of the advanced technologies, which will replace all of this dangerous crap we have now.  Next issue: We are frequency beings. Anyone see the movie/dvd "Beings of Resonance?" If you haven't, gooogle it. Thougths are frequencies. Negative thoughts, anger, ect are lower frequencies. Yes, I fully realize having lived there, in those lower frequencies for a long time, it is easy to be angry, to be frustrated, ect. But the fact remains, we can choose whether we spend our energy being angry or we spend our energy being grateful. Gratitude is a holy Powerful frequency.    
>  To: [hidden email]
> From: superdrove@...
> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:41:07 -0800
> Subject: RE: [eSens] Grounding Pent Up Radiation
>
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>       Lizzie,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the directions for the ceramic planter grounding method again.  We need to be reminded once in awhile.  I already bought two large clay pots about 8  months ago and still haven't set them up.  So now, I will do that, but I have a couple questions.  
>
>
>
> What kind of grounding fabric should one use?  I don't mind putting grounding fabric with silver or stainless steel threads in it, under the mattress or on the floor, but putting it under the bottom sheet you sleep on bothers me because with all the rolling around during the night a body does, the silver or stainless threads in the fabric will get broken down and I worry about the fabric loosing effectiveness, and flaking of metal particles getting embedded in the sheets, breathing it in, and so on.  So why does the grounding fabric have to be under the bottom sheet you sleep on?   Why not over the top sheet?  I have some shielding fabric over my top sheet. with a blanket on top of it.  
>
>
>
> Can the ceramic planter grounding method be used to ground a Faraday Cage around the bed, made out of aluminum or brass screen material or perhaps a canopy? In that case, would there have to be a ceramic planter on each of the four sides of the Faraday Cage, or canopy, because if you extend wires from the four sides to one or two pots, the wire would obviously be longer than 12 inches.  How many grounding cords are required for a four sided Farady Cage made of screen?
>
>
>
> Besides just grounding oneself in bed, what other techniques can be used to try and get the radiation to dissipate from the body before you get into bed?  I wish someone would make a machine that could drain the excess voltage from the body just by touching it.  How can one do that?  By touching an alligator clip connected to ground?  Would that actually drain the excess voltage out of the body?  What about those water techniques?  If the water is carrying voltage, would that work?
>
>
>
> I think it is important for people on this list to investigate this subject and establish some working techniques that can be used to dissipate pent up radiation.  Being exposed to radiation is bad, but carrying that radiation around in the body is very bad.  I guess the first place to start would be in trying to understand what is being absorbed, and if that translates in to being voltage in the body, or is it cell stress, histamine reaction, or exactly what???? Then once that is known, we can figure out how to nullify or lessen it.  As you said, it is not advisable to get under the canopy when you are full or radiation.  So what to do????
>
>
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
>
>
> C. Johnson
>
> superdrove@...
>
> Wireless Refugee
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 1/25/13, Elizabeth thode lizt777@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I have sent you a sheet on how to use a bed grounding system
>
> with OUT using the water pipe. Water pipes can have alot of RF frequency
>
>  piggyback on them, and also can have HIGH magnetic fields. I read years
>
>  ago, to NOT use water pipes for grounding.  Lizzie
>
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>
> Bed grounding system using ceramic
>
> planter
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> Supplies:
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>
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> 2.   One
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> copper rod, 6 inches long, ½ inch in diameter.
>
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>
> 3.   Two
>
> alligator clips, attached to plastic coated wiring.
>
>
>
> 4.   The
>
> above wiring length should be NO longer then 12 inches long.
>
>
>
> 5.   One
>
> ceramic planter, 4-5 gallon size works best.- Make sure planter has drainage
>
> holes in bottom.
>
>
>
> 6.   Enough
>
> soil/dirt to fill above planter to 2 inches below the lip. This soil needs good
>
> mixture, not too much clay, not too sandy. Other wise- too much clay the soil
>
> won't drain well, too much sand, drains too well. You want the soil to hold
>
> some moisture.
>
>
>
> 7.   Spring
>
> water to keep dirt moist.
>
>
>
> 8.   A
>
> shallow container for the bottom of the planter, to protect flooring from over
>
> drainage. Shallow plastic large Tupperware will also work.
>
>
>
> 9.   Plumbers
>
> Sanding  tape. This is for sanding off
>
> the copper rod every so often, to make sure the copper is holding the charge,
>
> discharging. It will turn cloudy after so many months.
>
>
>
> Instructions:
>
>
>
> 1.  
>
> Place grounding fabric under
>
> the bottom sheet.
>
>
>
> 2.  
>
> Make sure the planter `s
>
> drain holes are open.
>
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>
> 3.  
>
> Fill planter with soil/dirt
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> mix.
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> 4.  
>
> Place at/near foot of the
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> bed.
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>
>
> 5.  
>
> Put copper rod in the center
>
> of the pot, leave 2 inches sticking up.
>
>
>
> 6.  
>
> Water the dirt.
>
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>
> 7.  
>
> Attach one end of alligator
>
> clip to bottom of grounding fabric.
>
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>
> 8.  
>
> Attach other end to the
>
> copper rod.
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> 9.  
>
> Keep water bottle next to
>
> planter, and make sure the dirt is MOIST.
>
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> DO NOT LET THE DIRT GO DRY!
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Patricia
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thank you, lizzie, for all that great information.
i've done acupressure for years but just forgot
it when i was being exposed to chemical fumes
and high EMF in my condo... my brain totally
went out the window.  :)  it's back somewhat
now and i am grateful for that.  will start
doing what you advised.  i have some of my
books here with me... are reflexology points
nearly the same as acupressure points?  
what i used to say was, "if it hurts, rub it."  
thanks.  
love, patricia



On Jan 26, 2013, at 7:52 AM, Elizabeth thode wrote:

>
> As for glands that control heat?
>
> The thyroid gland regulates the
> temperatures in the body,
>
> much like a thermostat does.


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Presently
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You may want to read this blog on grounding. http://healthiestdayever.com/2010/08/protecting-yourself-from-emf-radiation/


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Patricia
In reply to this post by surpriseshan2
shan, i am TOTALLY in line with dr. hamer's understanding.
i admire his work tremendously.  
and there are other, non-orthodox medical understandings
that correlate with his orthodox medical understanding...
not that the orthodoxy would think he is orthodox...
to them, he is a total heretic.  :)  
i have been a hypnotherapist and every condition can be
taken back to a traumatic event - and cleared at the source
in the present time.  i also study *a course in miracles*
and christian science - which both work off this understanding...
"all healing is essentially the release from fear."  :)  love it!!!
love, patricia


On Jan 26, 2013, at 4:31 PM, bestsurprise2 wrote:

>   You sound as if you have read about Dr Hamer and what is called "German Medicine".
>
> The New Medicine of Dr Hamer
> by Walter Last.
> Dr Hamer had an exceptionally high success rate with his cancer therapy, by far the highest I have seen of any therapy.  During one of several trials of the persecuted Dr Hamer the public prosecutor (Wiener-Neustadt in Austria) had to admit that after 4 to 5 years 6,000 out of 6,500 patients with mostly advanced cancer were still alive. That is over 90%, almost a reversal of the results to be expected after conventional treatment of advanced conditions.
> http://www.health-science-spirit.com/hamer.html
>
> GERMAN NEW MEDICINE® (GNM)
> Dr. Hamer's Medical Paradigm at a glance.
> Numerous studies had already shown that cancer and other diseases are often preceded by a traumatic event. But Dr.
> Hamer took his research a momentous step further. Pursuing the hypothesis that all bodily events are controlled from the brain, he analyzed his patients' brain scans and compared them with their medical records. Dr. Hamer discovered that every disease—not only cancer!—is controlled from its own specific area in the brain and linked to a very particular, identifiable, "conflict shock". The result of his research is a scientific chart that illustrates the biological relationship between the psyche and the brain in correlation with the organs and tissues of the entire human body (the English "Scientific Chart of GNM" is in the works).
> http://www.learninggnm.com/documents/Explore%20GNM%20Website%20Update.pdf
>
>                 blessings
>                        Shan




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On January 26, Presently <[hidden email]> wrote:
> You may want to read this blog on grounding. http://healthiestdayever.com/2010/08/protecting-yourself-from-emf-radiation/

Although, this sort of grounding attracts EMF to your body, so it can
pass through you and then into the grounding pad.  Probably not the
best idea for some of the folks on this group.

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Now, on to your questions.

 

1.     I used the High Performance Silver from www.lessemf.com
I do know they sell a cheaper fabric, the white with the silver threads thru
it. How well this will work? I don't know. If I had to guess, I'd say it should
be good enough, but again, I have not used this fabric as my bed grounding
fabric.

 

2.      I
was following instructions from an Irish friend, who is also a Natural healer.
(thank you Ciaran!)
He is a scientist type and used this formula/method on his bed, on his Reiki
table to help ground his clients, and in his car, using a much smaller planter,
and a seat pad, with the grounding fabric as the inner layer, leaving a seam
open, to connect the alligator clips to both the pot and the seat pad.

When I have looked at all of the
commercial products/ bed grounding systems, it seems like they all put the
special fabric under the bottom sheet. Which tells me- maybe it works better if
the body has some kind of contact. (same theory as walking barefoot.)

 

A suggestion? Get some of those
elastic sheet holders, make a chain, and connect both sides of the special
fabric, underneath the mattress. to hold the fabric in place, to keep from
sliding. I saw these at the fabric store (Jo annes) and I think they were
plastic.

 

You are going to get some wear
and tear, this is unavoidable. But mine have lasted 3 years, so far. And yes, I
do have to straighten the silver fabric, but I have gotten used to this. Chuckle...yes,
we did have to straighten out her bedding.

 

At this point, I don't focus on
the inconviances,
I focus on being grateful I was given this information, that so helped me, to
help my daughter. And yes, I do have some silver rubbing on the underside of my
sheet. Oh well. My health or my sheet? No contest!

 

2A.  All I can say is, you could try it on top, and
see if it helps you.

 

3.     I have the canopy i made, out of the high
performance silver fabric. I did not ground it. No need to. The swiss fabric
canopy sold by lessemf states "no grounding needed" .

 

I used clothes line rope to make
a frame around the bed, I used those hook eye holders, in the wall, to tie the
clothes line rope to. I layered the fabric, over lapping the sections, and used
wooden clothes pins to keep the sections closed.

 

3A. I don't know whether you'd
need to ground a faraday cage, using brass or aluminum. Some one on here may
know the answer to this one.

 

3AA. I should point out, that
there is NO electrical working, hooked up at the main power box, in the
bedroom, in the room below the bedroom, or in any of the bedroom walls, or
outside in the hallway. Yeay for flashlight Power! Google:
Energizer-EVEECABL3AA

 

(11.24 each at Discount Office
Items) I took those Over the door plastic organizers, cut the sections, they
fit this light perfectly, used those free hanging self stick hooks, cut a hole
in the plastic holder, and these are my fancy dancy wall sconces. Those are LED
lights with a frosted cover, gives beautiful light without the glare.

 

4.     A machine to take out the excess voltage
would be nice! Mother Nature, in her wisdom, provided for this. Then man came
along and screwed it up. Particularly, when they allowed the utility co's to
use earth as ground.

 

5.     Seems to me, that using water with
current/voltage in it, is what caused part of my daughter's problem. I somehow
can't see it, helping to reduce body voltage.

 

 

6.     Radiation and high body voltage are two
different things. You have two mechanisms at play here. However, grounding the
body reduces the effects of both. From my experience, anyway.

 

6A. I learned the hard way, to
not get in that canopy when exposed to high radiation.

 

Rinsing our head/hair, hands,feet
in the cosmic stone treated water was hugely helpful. I mentioned the cosmic
stones in an earlier post. www.globallight.net.
Look under water transformation.

 

Understand: these stones will
only work when using filtered water, and I do mean, the best water can find! If
the water is either fluoridated or contaminated, this water will both taste
BADD, and will not work as well. We drink this treated water too. Go the above
site and read for more info.

 

7.     Solutions?

 

Top of the list is barefoot
grounding. Next to this, is tree hugging. Next is the bed grounding system.
After that, soaking your feet in Magnesium chloride oil, or the bath flakes
they sell, also helped my daughter. magnesum plays a large role in the body's
electrical system. Also, learning to do the Accupressure therapy I mentioned in
todays's earlier post, is also very helpful.

 

Radiation does something else,
that is not often talked about.

 

It turns the body acidic. Disease
and health conditions can only thrive in an acidic body. This is where using
the Baking Soda (Arm & Hammer or bob's redmill- No Aluminum) help to
alkalize the body.

 

I started on low doses, 1/8 of a
teaspoon, in a glass of water. Drink slowly, I carried a bottle of this
whenever we went out. We sipped from this baking soda water, to help keep our
body's alkalized. This is by far the cheapest way to do this. No, it doesnt'
taste like candy.

 

Most of the things we've done,
tried, weren't convenient, didn't taste good, but if they helped? That's all
that mattered to me.

 

Sipping a glass of filtered water
with real lemon juice squeezed in, is also very helpful, as is brewing some
parsley tea.

 

Diet plays an important role in
any health condition.

 

Processed foods are acidic. Raw
veggies are alkaline. We took away: Dairy, Wheat, Soy, mushrooms, fake foods,
plastic margarine, peanuts, corn, any crop that tends to be moldy. Wheat
products tend to be moldy. Radiation and emfs multiply these molds in the body.


 

Probiotics are a really helpful
supplement. As are supporting the adrenals and the thyroid, these two glands
ARE the body's immune system, and the digestive system is also part of this.

 

*I came at this whole issue from
every angle I could.

Every day, I am making it a
point, to be quiet and meditate, see the new advanced technologies, here, NOW,
and I say : "it is done!"

I imagine how it feels to
see all of us jumping for Joy.....then I am Gratitude Multiplied.

 

This is a way to meditate, to
manifest, that was conveniently left "out" of our teachings. google
the youtube: "the Language of the divine matrix". By Greg Braden.

 

I will use every tool I can find,
until I get the answers I want! "Leave No Stone Un-turned!"

 

Blessings,

 

Lizzie

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      Lizzie,



Thanks for the directions for the ceramic planter grounding method again.  We need to be reminded once in awhile.  I already bought two large clay pots about 8  months ago and still haven't set them up.  So now, I will do that, but I have a couple questions.  



What kind of grounding fabric should one use?  I don't mind putting grounding fabric with silver or stainless steel threads in it, under the mattress or on the floor, but putting it under the bottom sheet you sleep on bothers me because with all the rolling around during the night a body does, the silver or stainless threads in the fabric will get broken down and I worry about the fabric loosing effectiveness, and flaking of metal particles getting embedded in the sheets, breathing it in, and so on.  So why does the grounding fabric have to be under the bottom sheet you sleep on?   Why not over the top sheet?  I have some shielding fabric over my top sheet. with a blanket on top of it.  



Can the ceramic planter grounding method be used to ground a Faraday Cage around the bed, made out of aluminum or brass screen material or perhaps a canopy? In that case, would there have to be a ceramic planter on each of the four sides of the Faraday Cage, or canopy, because if you extend wires from the four sides to one or two pots, the wire would obviously be longer than 12 inches.  How many grounding cords are required for a four sided Farady Cage made of screen?



Besides just grounding oneself in bed, what other techniques can be used to try and get the radiation to dissipate from the body before you get into bed?  I wish someone would make a machine that could drain the excess voltage from the body just by touching it.  How can one do that?  By touching an alligator clip connected to ground?  Would that actually drain the excess voltage out of the body?  What about those water techniques?  If the water is carrying voltage, would that work?



I think it is important for people on this list to investigate this subject and establish some working techniques that can be used to dissipate pent up radiation.  Being exposed to radiation is bad, but carrying that radiation around in the body is very bad.  I guess the first place to start would be in trying to understand what is being absorbed, and if that translates in to being voltage in the body, or is it cell stress, histamine reaction, or exactly what???? Then once that is known, we can figure out how to nullify or lessen it.  As you said, it is not advisable to get under the canopy when you are full or radiation.  So what to do????



Thanks for any input.



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I have sent you a sheet on how to use a bed grounding system

with OUT using the water pipe. Water pipes can have alot of RF frequency

 piggyback on them, and also can have HIGH magnetic fields. I read years

 ago, to NOT use water pipes for grounding.  Lizzie



Bed grounding system using ceramic

planter



 



Supplies:



1.   Enough

grounding fabric to cover the bed (some people use a piece big enough to cover

only half of the bed)



 



2.   One

copper rod, 6 inches long, ½ inch in diameter.



3.   Two

alligator clips, attached to plastic coated wiring.



4.   The

above wiring length should be NO longer then 12 inches long.



5.   One

ceramic planter, 4-5 gallon size works best.- Make sure planter has drainage

holes in bottom.



6.   Enough

soil/dirt to fill above planter to 2 inches below the lip. This soil needs good

mixture, not too much clay, not too sandy. Other wise- too much clay the soil

won’t drain well, too much sand, drains too well. You want the soil to hold

some moisture.



7.   Spring

water to keep dirt moist.



8.   A

shallow container for the bottom of the planter, to protect flooring from over

drainage. Shallow plastic large Tupperware will also work.



9.   Plumbers

Sanding  tape. This is for sanding off

the copper rod every so often, to make sure the copper is holding the charge,

discharging. It will turn cloudy after so many months.



Instructions:



1.  

Place grounding fabric under

the bottom sheet.



2.  

Make sure the planter ‘s

drain holes are open.



3.  

Fill planter with soil/dirt

mix.



4.  

Place at/near foot of the

bed.



5.  

Put copper rod in the center

of the pot, leave 2 inches sticking up.



6.  

Water the dirt.



7.  

Attach one end of alligator

clip to bottom of grounding fabric.



8.  

Attach other end to the

copper rod.



9.  

Keep water bottle next to

planter, and make sure the dirt is MOIST.



10.              

DO NOT LET THE DIRT GO DRY!



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For what I've read?  yes, they are the same merideans.There may be slight variations, and they may use differntnames.  If it hurts, rub it, press on, absolutely. I think Fibromyaglia is really a blend of superarthritis and electrical blockages.  What happenswhen the body's energy flow is blocked?Inflammation.  Lizzie
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      thank you, lizzie, for all that great information.

i've done acupressure for years but just forgot

it when i was being exposed to chemical fumes

and high EMF in my condo... my brain totally

went out the window.  :)  it's back somewhat

now and i am grateful for that.  will start

doing what you advised.  i have some of my

books here with me... are reflexology points

nearly the same as acupressure points?  

what i used to say was, "if it hurts, rub it."  

thanks.  

love, patricia



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>

> As for glands that control heat?

>

> The thyroid gland regulates the

> temperatures in the body,

>

> much like a thermostat does.





   
     

   
   






       

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Elizabeth thode
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Welcome. I use distilled water, run it thru my Berkley, put in the cosmic stone glass jug, let it sit (activate) for 6 hrs,and then when I pour a glass of water, I add some Himalayan sea salt, and a spray or two of diluted Magnesium water(20 % magnesium oil 80% filtered water) .  Distilled water alone should be fine, According to Dr. Wilson, distilled water is the only water that the spin, the molecular structure, isn't damaged by the filtering process.  It does tend to be acidic though, so adding the trace minerals and magnesium fixes this.
 I would love to find the Next UP water treatment system. If memory serves me right, they called that water: Hexagonal water. What exactly this means, I do not know.I do know, that using the cosmic stones helped us alot. LizzieTo: [hidden email]
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      Thanks Lizzie for the info on the Cosmic Stones. Can you use distilled or spring water out of plastic jugs with them?



I have not drank a drop of tap water in over 20 years.  The only uncooked tap water I may have gotten is if I had a salad in a restaurant.. I never order ice in my drinks.   I drink Crystal Gyser, Distilled or Spring Water out of the plsstic jug that I buy at the store.



As far as the water technique, I was wondering about those grounding stations they have in France where you can wet your hair and feet at a special grounded fountain to dissipate pent up radiation.  www.Next Up.orgHow is kinda hard to navigate and I can't find it now.  How could one make one of those for home use?



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Good memory.



I used filtered



water, no Fluoride, and bought these cosmic stones from www.globallight.net



Look under



Water Transformation.



I used 3 of



these balls, in a glass milk jug, and let the water sit to activate for 6 hrs.



I had many of



these jugs going, and i used masking tape, to write the date and time



on the milk



cap, so I could keep track of how long the water had been activated.



I still use



this today. It is the most awesome water, those stones change the formation



of the water,



and drinking this water is amazing.



You can read



the info on the above site. It changes the Bovis reading on the water.



This is the



water we used to discharge excess static off of our heads/hair.



But, the water



used cannot BE tap water, or contaminated water filtered thru a reverse



osmosis.



If you suspect



your water is contaminated, do what you have to do, to get as clean of water as



you can.



The water in my



area, IS contaminated by leaking udnerground storage tanks.



So I get my water from the Krogers in the next town up, from their Reverse



Osmosis machine.



You can buy jugs,fill em, and save the jugs and refill em. It costs me .39



cents a re fill.



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Lizzie,



You talked in the last year or two, about the technique you use to dissipate built up radiation by wetting your head and feet with special water.  Could you elaborate on that again or point me to where it is in the archives?  Thanks



C. Johnson



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The canopy works well, or did for us, as long as the person sleeping inside of the canopy isn't heavily irradiated.



Otherwise, the body being RF'd, will also lock in the radiation to the sleep area.



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Lizzie, thank you for this information.  I'm going to see  out this book.  
I have a soreness by my ear, the ear I press my phone to.  Maybe acupressure
will help me.
 
 
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> Welcome. I use distilled water, run it thru my Berkley, put in the cosmic stone glass jug, let it sit (activate) for 6 hrs,and then when I pour a glass of water, I add some Himalayan sea salt, and a spray or two of diluted Magnesium water(20 % magnesium oil 80% filtered water) .  Distilled water alone should be fine, According to Dr. Wilson, distilled water is the only water that the spin, the molecular structure, isn't damaged by the filtering process.  It does tend to be acidic though, so adding the trace minerals and magnesium fixes this.

I am so happy to find this post!  I need to talk to someone who uses a Berkey.  I have one that has both the regular black filters for just tap water, and also two more filters that filter fluoride.  First, I run my tap water through, then I boil it to make tea. But, after pouring the water out for the tea, the pan has a slight murky white film on the bottom of the pan. I move my finger across it and it leaves a filmy trail behind.

I asked the Berkey people what that was and they told me it was merely minerals from the tap water.  Why does it linger in the pan? I asked.  They said the filter breaks the minerals down so tiny they aren't absorbed by the filters and pass through.

That explanation didn't make a lot of sense to me.  So I tried the entire thing with distilled water.  Oddly enough, the distilled water that had contained NO distilates or minerals at first, came out of my Berkey filter with the same murky cloudy stuff left in the pan after boiling the water.

I tested all the water products with a "dissolved solids" tester that came with the PUR filter set I had bought before.  The tap water tested high, the bottled spring water tested a bit lower, the distilled water tested near zero, but after running the distilled water through the Berkey the distilled water tested HIGH like the tap water.  

Could you do me a huge favor and do this with your water after using the Berkey, but before you add any salts or anything else?  Just use the pure distilled water that has been run through the filters. Then, boil some in a stainless steel pan, pour it off, then when cool, run your finger across the empty bottom of the pan.  See if your Berkey has given your water some solids from its filter components.  I can't get a straight answer from the Berkey folks, so your test would be a great help for me.  Thanks much, very much!

Marji  

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Elizabeth thode
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Glad to help,.

In the meantime,

try; this:

 

1. Put your finger (middle)

behind your ears, right behind
the ear lobe, that crevice

right next to your head.

 

(each side at same time if you
can.)

Press finger IN that crevice
pressing towards the head,  and hold for
one minute.

 

2. Ear flap area, both ears,
press both ear flaps IN. And Hold

for one minute. You may feel a
release or opening.

 

3.. Now, look in a mirror, SMILE
widely- open mouth up and down,

Take your pointer and middle
finger,

to the center of your
cheekbone/jaw bones

on both sides of the face.

 

Feel with your finger tips where
the jaw bone meets-

there is a crevice there. If you
are smiling widely and opening your mouth

and up and down, you will find
this spot on either side of the face.

 

When you find it, *this spot will
probably be tender. Press and hold for one minute.

 

The long way to do this acupressure,
is to gently explore your entire body, and find

any areas that are tender. These
are meridian / electrical blockages.

 

The bottom of the foot, if you
were to take a marker, and draw a line,

Not long ways, (not from the toe
to the ankle)  but the short way,

Using your toes as a guide, almost
at that center line, about a half inch past that line you drew, going toward
the toes, that is the Ball area of the foot.

This is a common blockage area. Press
and hold.

 

Also, around the ankles, cup your
hand around your ankle, inner ankle, right below the ankle bone, is another
very common tender spot. Press and hold.

Often, it takes several treatments
a day to unblock these.

 

Blessings,

Lizzie


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      Lizzie, thank you for this information.  I'm going to see  out this book.  

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will help me.

 

 

Estelle



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Sure, I can do that.

 

But I can also tell you this:

Tap water can be contaminated
with Petro chemicals.

Fluoride filters will not remove
these petro chemicals.

 

I was told this by the Lab I
used, when I had my tap water tested.

Particularly when the petro
chemicals are combined with Fluoride.

 

I had a very similiar white
coating ....which is why I now haul water from another town, that's water is

not contaminated (at least not
the extent it is here!)

 

Try going to www.homefacts.com

and put your address in, and see
if your area comes up with any "Tanks or Spills".

 

I just happened to be at a city
hall meeting when they were getting a report from

 the Environmental Clean Up Mitigation company,
the city had hired.....

 

something made my ears perk up. I
took notes. Turned out, the EPA wouldn't sign off

on the clean up, because the city
had to show them where the "bleed path" was, from

two Underground storage tanks
that had leaked ALOT...20 years ago.

Guess where the bleed path was?

 

Interesting thing
happened...after I started hauling water, (still run it thru the Berkley) my
daughter, who’was severely ES, and had been making steady progress...jumped way
ahead in her progress within 3 mths of me changing my water source.

 

Also, there were 2 houses shut
down for “Lead Poisoning” during the past 3 years. One house was down the block
from me, very close to where the storage tanks had leaked.    (twenty years ago!) The other house was a
few blocks away.

 

Likely, both home owners were
told the lead came from lead paint. I don’t think so. And I’ll tell you why:

Where my daughter spent 99% of
her time, in our house, was a completely paneled room, oak, even on the window
trims and the doors are not painted, period.

 

When Fluoride is combined with
these Petro Chemicals, such as Lead and cadmium, the resulting cocktail is a
nightmare for the human body.

 

Google the movie/youtube: ‘Fluoridate”.


They talk about these toxic
combinations in that movie.

 

Now I am in no way saying the
water was the whole cause. What I am saying is,

It definitely helped to tip the
scales over.

 

Lizzie

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--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode  wrote:

>

> Welcome. I use distilled water, run it thru my Berkley, put in the cosmic stone glass jug, let it sit (activate) for 6 hrs,and then when I pour a glass of water, I add some Himalayan sea salt, and a spray or two of diluted Magnesium water(20 % magnesium oil 80% filtered water) .  Distilled water alone should be fine, According to Dr. Wilson, distilled water is the only water that the spin, the molecular structure, isn't damaged by the filtering process.  It does tend to be acidic though, so adding the trace minerals and magnesium fixes this.



I am so happy to find this post!  I need to talk to someone who uses a Berkey.  I have one that has both the regular black filters for just tap water, and also two more filters that filter fluoride.  First, I run my tap water through, then I boil it to make tea. But, after pouring the water out for the tea, the pan has a slight murky white film on the bottom of the pan. I move my finger across it and it leaves a filmy trail behind.



I asked the Berkey people what that was and they told me it was merely minerals from the tap water.  Why does it linger in the pan? I asked.  They said the filter breaks the minerals down so tiny they aren't absorbed by the filters and pass through.



That explanation didn't make a lot of sense to me.  So I tried the entire thing with distilled water.  Oddly enough, the distilled water that had contained NO distilates or minerals at first, came out of my Berkey filter with the same murky cloudy stuff left in the pan after boiling the water.



I tested all the water products with a "dissolved solids" tester that came with the PUR filter set I had bought before.  The tap water tested high, the bottled spring water tested a bit lower, the distilled water tested near zero, but after running the distilled water through the Berkey the distilled water tested HIGH like the tap water.  



Could you do me a huge favor and do this with your water after using the Berkey, but before you add any salts or anything else?  Just use the pure distilled water that has been run through the filters. Then, boil some in a stainless steel pan, pour it off, then when cool, run your finger across the empty bottom of the pan.  See if your Berkey has given your water some solids from its filter components.  I can't get a straight answer from the Berkey folks, so your test would be a great help for me.  Thanks much, very much!



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Funny you should mention this area I have a lump in here, on the left hand  
side whereas on the right I feel only soft tissue and a bit of cartilage. I
have  complained for years to my Dr about this they say its a lack of
symetry which is  poppycock !!  Apparently nothing showed up on an MRI several
years ago when  a thug broke may face.
 
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behind  your ears, right behind
the ear lobe, that crevice

right next to  your head.

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