How do you block a satellite dish?

Hello,

I'm wondering if anyone might have advice on how to block the neighbors satellite dish from radiating through my bedroom window and onto my bed.

I've tried aluminum foil, but I'm still getting readings from the acoustimeter of 0.30 Peak - V/m, 1 Average - uW/m2.

I'd like to do this as economically as possible; I'm not concerned with appearances...

Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

I have a dish satellite 10 ft from my window I only read.0012 milivolts per sq
meter. or1.1 micro watts per sq meter. That is to low to even shield from. But
aluminum screen works well for the right application.
 
Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti
805-642-0546
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________________________________
From: Codeaux <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 2:01:55 PM
Subject: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?

 
Hello,

I'm wondering if anyone might have advice on how to block the neighbors
satellite dish from radiating through my bedroom window and onto my bed.


I've tried aluminum foil, but I'm still getting readings from the acoustimeter
of 0.30 Peak - V/m, 1 Average - uW/m2.


I'd like to do this as economically as possible; I'm not concerned with
appearances...

Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Thanks!




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Stack cases of water between you and the culprit. Microwaves can't penetrate water and are absorbed by it.


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On Wed, May 29, 2013 2:01 PM PDT Codeaux wrote:

I think you need the window for air?
 
Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti
805-642-0546
[hidden email]




________________________________
From: Al Harding <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 4:11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?

 


Stack cases of water between you and the culprit. Microwaves can't penetrate
water and are absorbed by it.


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On Wed, May 29, 2013 2:01 PM PDT Codeaux wrote:




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>________________________________
> From: John Puccetti <[hidden email]>
> 
>I think you need the window for air?

Yes. Ideally, I would be able to ventilate the room when it's cool outside and then block or replace the shield when I go in there to sleep. I was thinking chunks of foam or something similar wrapped in mylar (?), but that may be overkill. I put up the aluminum foil initially to see if it would work.

Thoughts?

Apparently, there are two kinds of home satellite dishes.  If installed for Direct TV only, the dish only recieves Radio Frequency signals from a satellite and does not transmit RF.  If installed by a cable company for DSL internet use, it is a two way satellite dish that recieves and transmits digital information or RF microwaves.  The reception and/or transmission is supposed to be in a a narrow cone beam like a flashlight - so no one is supposed to be in the line of path of the cone beam.  The company is supposed to give people instructions on not standing in front of the cone beam.  "Experts" claim the power density in front of the dish is low, and "should" be below the safety limit.  Quote: "The frequency is between 10 and 15 GHz and the power is a few watts.  At this frequency, when a person is exposed, the power deposition is primarily in the skin."

Woah!  10-15 GHZ!!!   They call this low and below the safety limit??  Make sure any satellite dishes in your vicinity are pointed away from you.  As far as emissions coming from the sides of the cone beam, or from the rear of the satellite dish, industry spokesmen claim there is no health effect.  But these statements are brought to you by the same people who represent the very U.S. corporations and governmental organizations that claim microwave radiation is not hazardous to human health:  FDA, EPA, Department of Labor OSHA, American Cancer Society, FCC, and many doctors in the AMA

Here is what  Ninni Jacobs, CHP, Environmental Health and Safety, Brown University says:






















"I would not be concerned about walking or driving in front of the satellte dish, or even if the children were to play near it."
 


















I am on the 3rd floor and there are two satellite dishes on neighbor's balconies within 4-5 yards of the window where I sleep.  It is hard for me to measure what might be coming from the sides or rear of these dishes as there is already such a toxic soup of microwaves in the area.  The Average 1 mw/m2 that you are getting is low, still in the green (compared to what is coming at me).  But people can still react to these levels and it can depend on the characteristics of the transmissions too - are there pulses and dirty electricity transmissions riding along with these waves?  

I have grouned hardware screen over the window and walls of the bedroom, floor to ceiling, and some large mirrors leaned up against the window as well.  But, there may be leakage thru the floor from the two satellite dishes that are on the ground below my unit, and leakage through the ceiling from Satellite dishes on upper decks, not to mention at least six Wi-Fi accounts in the building and several cell towers within two blocks.  What a toxic soup.  As far as shielding, I find aluminum hardware screen is the most economical at a cost of about $1.00 a foot.    Sheet metal is the best but it is expensive.  I understand tin foil develops microscopic holes in it, so probably not the best option. 

Since it is hard to block out all the leaks coming into my apartment, I find it essential to sleep under shielding fabrics at night to cut my exposures that accumulate through the day.

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee

--- On Wed, 5/29/13, Codeaux <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: Codeaux <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013, 9:01 PM



















 
 


   
     
     
      Hello,



I'm wondering if anyone might have advice on how to block the neighbors satellite dish from radiating through my bedroom window and onto my bed.



I've tried aluminum foil, but I'm still getting readings from the acoustimeter of 0.30 Peak - V/m, 1 Average - uW/m2.



I'd like to do this as economically as possible; I'm not concerned with appearances...



Any ideas would be much appreciated.



Thanks!





   
     







 










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Water is an excellent conductor of wireless radiation.
this means microwaves DO penetrate water.
 
 
Lizzie
 
To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 15:41:29 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?
















 



 


   
     
     
     



Stack cases of water between you and the culprit. Microwaves can't penetrate water and are absorbed by it.



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On Wed, May 29, 2013 2:01 PM PDT Codeaux wrote:



>Hello,

>

>I'm wondering if anyone might have advice on how to block the neighbors satellite dish from radiating through my bedroom window and onto my bed.

>

>I've tried aluminum foil, but I'm still getting readings from the acoustimeter of 0.30 Peak - V/m, 1 Average - uW/m2.

>

>I'd like to do this as economically as possible; I'm not concerned with appearances...

>

>Any ideas would be much appreciated.

>

>Thanks!

>

>

>

>






   
     

   
   






       

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I would suggest using the high performance silver fabric from www.lessemf.com
I have this over my windows and it blocks very well.
 
Or,you could try a mirror in the window, to reflect the crap back at your neighbor!
 
Lizzie
 
To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 21:01:25 +0000
Subject: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?
















 



 


   
     
     
      Hello,



I'm wondering if anyone might have advice on how to block the neighbors satellite dish from radiating through my bedroom window and onto my bed.



I've tried aluminum foil, but I'm still getting readings from the acoustimeter of 0.30 Peak - V/m, 1 Average - uW/m2.



I'd like to do this as economically as possible; I'm not concerned with appearances...



Any ideas would be much appreciated.



Thanks!






   
     

   
   






       

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>________________________________
> From: Al Harding <[hidden email]>
>
>Stack cases of water between you and the culprit. Microwaves can't penetrate water and are absorbed by it. 

Interesting. Though, I'm not sure this solution would work well for my situation.


It's a rather small room already and the window is about 4 feet off of the floor. So I would have to purchase a table or bench sturdy enough to hold quite a few cases of water...

Unless I'm missing the simpler, cheaper way to do this?

Aluminum screen is effective and we let air in, Mylar is good and cheap but no
air. 
Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti
805-642-0546
[hidden email]




________________________________
From: Laura <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 7:05:12 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?

 


>________________________________
> From: John Puccetti <[hidden email]>
> 
>I think you need the window for air?

Yes. Ideally, I would be able to ventilate the room when it's cool outside and
then block or replace the shield when I go in there to sleep. I was thinking
chunks of foam or something similar wrapped in mylar (?), but that may be
overkill. I put up the aluminum foil initially to see if it would work.

Thoughts?




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Good information I was only considering receiving Dish. Sending is whole
different issue thanks. As with any device receiving is not a big problem
sending is, all new appliances will be wifi enabled be care-full to not buy
them.
 
Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti
805-642-0546
[hidden email]




________________________________
From: C.a.b. Johnson <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 7:05:54 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?

 
Apparently, there are two kinds of home satellite dishes.  If installed for
Direct TV only, the dish only recieves Radio Frequency signals from a satellite
and does not transmit RF.  If installed by a cable company for DSL internet use,
it is a two way satellite dish that recieves and transmits digital information
or RF microwaves.  The reception and/or transmission is supposed to be in a a
narrow cone beam like a flashlight - so no one is supposed to be in the line of
path of the cone beam.  The company is supposed to give people instructions on
not standing in front of the cone beam.  "Experts" claim the power density in
front of the dish is low, and "should" be below the safety limit.  Quote: "The
frequency is between 10 and 15 GHz and the power is a few watts.  At this
frequency, when a person is exposed, the power deposition is primarily in the
skin."


Woah!  10-15 GHZ!!!   They call this low and below the safety limit??  Make sure
any satellite dishes in your vicinity are pointed away from you.  As far as
emissions coming from the sides of the cone beam, or from the rear of the
satellite dish, industry spokesmen claim there is no health effect.  But these
statements are brought to you by the same people who represent the very U.S.
corporations and governmental organizations that claim microwave radiation is
not hazardous to human health:  FDA, EPA, Department of Labor OSHA, American
Cancer Society, FCC, and many doctors in the AMA

Here is what  Ninni Jacobs, CHP, Environmental Health and Safety, Brown
University says:

"I would not be concerned about walking or driving in front of the satellte
dish, or even if the children were to play near it."
 

I am on the 3rd floor and there are two satellite dishes on neighbor's balconies
within 4-5 yards of the window where I sleep.  It is hard for me to measure what
might be coming from the sides or rear of these dishes as there is already such
a toxic soup of microwaves in the area.  The Average 1 mw/m2 that you are
getting is low, still in the green (compared to what is coming at me).  But
people can still react to these levels and it can depend on the characteristics
of the transmissions too - are there pulses and dirty electricity transmissions
riding along with these waves?  


I have grouned hardware screen over the window and walls of the bedroom, floor
to ceiling, and some large mirrors leaned up against the window as well.  But,
there may be leakage thru the floor from the two satellite dishes that are on
the ground below my unit, and leakage through the ceiling from Satellite dishes
on upper decks, not to mention at least six Wi-Fi accounts in the building and
several cell towers within two blocks.  What a toxic soup.  As far as shielding,
I find aluminum hardware screen is the most economical at a cost of about $1.00
a foot.    Sheet metal is the best but it is expensive.  I understand tin foil
develops microscopic holes in it, so probably not the best option. 


Since it is hard to block out all the leaks coming into my apartment, I find it
essential to sleep under shielding fabrics at night to cut my exposures that
accumulate through the day.

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee

--- On Wed, 5/29/13, Codeaux <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Codeaux <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013, 9:01 PM

 


Hello,

I'm wondering if anyone might have advice on how to block the neighbors
satellite dish from radiating through my bedroom window and onto my bed.


I've tried aluminum foil, but I'm still getting readings from the acoustimeter
of 0.30 Peak - V/m, 1 Average - uW/m2.


I'd like to do this as economically as possible; I'm not concerned with
appearances...

Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I drive a plug-in Prius and it has radar braking available so you can set it to
the distance that you want the car to automatically brake within. Scary! In
the manual it says if you have a pacemaker do not walk in front of the car. I
disabled this feature . Wow!
 
Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti
805-642-0546
[hidden email]




________________________________
From: C.a.b. Johnson <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 7:05:54 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?

 
Apparently, there are two kinds of home satellite dishes.  If installed for
Direct TV only, the dish only recieves Radio Frequency signals from a satellite
and does not transmit RF.  If installed by a cable company for DSL internet use,
it is a two way satellite dish that recieves and transmits digital information
or RF microwaves.  The reception and/or transmission is supposed to be in a a
narrow cone beam like a flashlight - so no one is supposed to be in the line of
path of the cone beam.  The company is supposed to give people instructions on
not standing in front of the cone beam.  "Experts" claim the power density in
front of the dish is low, and "should" be below the safety limit.  Quote: "The
frequency is between 10 and 15 GHz and the power is a few watts.  At this
frequency, when a person is exposed, the power deposition is primarily in the
skin."


Woah!  10-15 GHZ!!!   They call this low and below the safety limit??  Make sure
any satellite dishes in your vicinity are pointed away from you.  As far as
emissions coming from the sides of the cone beam, or from the rear of the
satellite dish, industry spokesmen claim there is no health effect.  But these
statements are brought to you by the same people who represent the very U.S.
corporations and governmental organizations that claim microwave radiation is
not hazardous to human health:  FDA, EPA, Department of Labor OSHA, American
Cancer Society, FCC, and many doctors in the AMA

Here is what  Ninni Jacobs, CHP, Environmental Health and Safety, Brown
University says:

"I would not be concerned about walking or driving in front of the satellte
dish, or even if the children were to play near it."
 

I am on the 3rd floor and there are two satellite dishes on neighbor's balconies
within 4-5 yards of the window where I sleep.  It is hard for me to measure what
might be coming from the sides or rear of these dishes as there is already such
a toxic soup of microwaves in the area.  The Average 1 mw/m2 that you are
getting is low, still in the green (compared to what is coming at me).  But
people can still react to these levels and it can depend on the characteristics
of the transmissions too - are there pulses and dirty electricity transmissions
riding along with these waves?  


I have grouned hardware screen over the window and walls of the bedroom, floor
to ceiling, and some large mirrors leaned up against the window as well.  But,
there may be leakage thru the floor from the two satellite dishes that are on
the ground below my unit, and leakage through the ceiling from Satellite dishes
on upper decks, not to mention at least six Wi-Fi accounts in the building and
several cell towers within two blocks.  What a toxic soup.  As far as shielding,
I find aluminum hardware screen is the most economical at a cost of about $1.00
a foot.    Sheet metal is the best but it is expensive.  I understand tin foil
develops microscopic holes in it, so probably not the best option. 


Since it is hard to block out all the leaks coming into my apartment, I find it
essential to sleep under shielding fabrics at night to cut my exposures that
accumulate through the day.

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee

--- On Wed, 5/29/13, Codeaux <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Codeaux <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013, 9:01 PM

 


Hello,

I'm wondering if anyone might have advice on how to block the neighbors
satellite dish from radiating through my bedroom window and onto my bed.


I've tried aluminum foil, but I'm still getting readings from the acoustimeter
of 0.30 Peak - V/m, 1 Average - uW/m2.


I'd like to do this as economically as possible; I'm not concerned with
appearances...

Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

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It would depend greatly on the proximity and power. For what he's using it for I guarantee nothing will get through.


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On Wed, May 29, 2013 4:50 PM PDT Elizabeth thode wrote:

Lizzie, If you have an analyzer you may want to experiment with my suggestion. For example, the atmosphere's water content blocks harmful radiation. A water wall stops a microwave dead in it's path, without any deflection. I suggest stacking cases of water without a cardboard support and then take measurements on the opposite side.


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On Wed, May 29, 2013 4:50 PM PDT Elizabeth thode wrote:

Are you certain that is coming from the satellite dish? Is your antenna omni or directional? Are you using an audible analyzer? If so is it a solid signal or a rapid pulse? Anyway, I would stack cases from the ground up using the wall as a support.  The closer to the source the better.


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On Wed, May 29, 2013 6:15 PM PDT Laura wrote:

Cases of water is by far the best. No grounding needed and it absorbs. You can get an electric charge build up with aluminium if not grounded properly. When was the last time you got a spark from a bottle of water. I am not guessing on this one.  I have the scientific equipment to prove this.


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On Wed, May 29, 2013 4:33 PM PDT Laura wrote:

Speaking of cars, let this be a lesson to anyone wanting to rent a  car. 
 Learn from my mistakes.  I rented a car for a long drive.  It
was a 2012 Toyota Camry.  I told the rental desk I did not  want any
wireless devices or capability in the car.  I made quite a ruckus about
it.  They assured me it did not have GPS, cell phone or wireless.  They
obviously did not know what they were talking about and I was stupid
enough and in a hurry enough to take their word for it.  I should have
measured the levels in the car as soon as I turned on the ignition and
before leaving the Rental agency.  The people that work at Car Rental
Agencies are not qualified to know if each individual car has wireless
or not.  Always check first!

After 300 miles I decided to take out my meter and
measure the levels in a town I was in.  That is when I found out the car
 was
 a nightmare.  It  was emitting the loudest most horrific sound I have
ever heard on the Acoustimeter and pulsing between .30 and .70 V/M.  The
 levels went to zero when I turned off the ignition and back up when I
turned the ignition on.

 I freaked out and called the Rental
Company and told them I wanted to trade the car in.  They said I could
only trade it in at the nearest airport.  Unfortunately I was in such a
remote place that the next drop off  point was over 800 miles away.  I
was just devastated because I had to drive 800 miles being blasted with
microwaves at horrendous levels.  I asked if I could stop at a Auto
Repair station and have the wireless device,  whatever it is, disabled. 
 They said it was probably the car's computer and it could not be
disabled.  The car also had Serius Satellite Radio, but the radio  was
never on, so I don't believe it could have been coming
 from the radio. 

After 1100 miles of being assaulted by this
car, I fell ill the day after dropping it off, not to mention
feeling like I got hit in the head with a hammer.  I am so angry. 

Does
 anyone know what could have been causing these levels of microwave
radiation?  If it is the car's computer, how do these computers emit
microwaves? 

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee

--- On Thu, 5/30/13, John Puccetti <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: John Puccetti <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 2:27 AM




















 


   
     
     
      I drive a plug-in Prius and it has radar braking available so you can set it to

the distance that you want the car to automatically brake within. Scary! In

the manual it says if you have a pacemaker do not walk in front of the car. I

disabled this feature . Wow!

 

Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti

805-642-0546

[hidden email]







 










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In my Prius it is the GPS and the Bluetooth that emit RF. They both can be
turned off.
 
Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti
805-642-0546
[hidden email]




________________________________
From: C.a.b. Johnson <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 8:31:56 AM
Subject: [eSens] Rental Cars

 
Speaking of cars, let this be a lesson to anyone wanting to rent a  car. 
Learn from my mistakes.  I rented a car for a long drive.  It
was a 2012 Toyota Camry.  I told the rental desk I did not  want any
wireless devices or capability in the car.  I made quite a ruckus about
it.  They assured me it did not have GPS, cell phone or wireless.  They
obviously did not know what they were talking about and I was stupid
enough and in a hurry enough to take their word for it.  I should have
measured the levels in the car as soon as I turned on the ignition and
before leaving the Rental agency.  The people that work at Car Rental
Agencies are not qualified to know if each individual car has wireless
or not.  Always check first!

After 300 miles I decided to take out my meter and
measure the levels in a town I was in.  That is when I found out the car
was
a nightmare.  It  was emitting the loudest most horrific sound I have
ever heard on the Acoustimeter and pulsing between .30 and .70 V/M.  The
levels went to zero when I turned off the ignition and back up when I
turned the ignition on.

 I freaked out and called the Rental
Company and told them I wanted to trade the car in.  They said I could
only trade it in at the nearest airport.  Unfortunately I was in such a
remote place that the next drop off  point was over 800 miles away.  I
was just devastated because I had to drive 800 miles being blasted with
microwaves at horrendous levels.  I asked if I could stop at a Auto
Repair station and have the wireless device,  whatever it is, disabled. 
They said it was probably the car's computer and it could not be
disabled.  The car also had Serius Satellite Radio, but the radio  was
never on, so I don't believe it could have been coming
from the radio. 

After 1100 miles of being assaulted by this
car, I fell ill the day after dropping it off, not to mention
feeling like I got hit in the head with a hammer.  I am so angry. 

Does
anyone know what could have been causing these levels of microwave
radiation?  If it is the car's computer, how do these computers emit
microwaves? 

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee

--- On Thu, 5/30/13, John Puccetti <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: John Puccetti <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 2:27 AM

I drive a plug-in Prius and it has radar braking available so you can set it to

the distance that you want the car to automatically brake within. Scary! In

the manual it says if you have a pacemaker do not walk in front of the car. I

disabled this feature . Wow!

 

Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti

805-642-0546

[hidden email]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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On May 30, John Puccetti <[hidden email]> wrote:
> In my Prius it is the GPS and the Bluetooth that emit RF. They both can be
> turned off.

Well, I think it depends on how sensitive you are.  I've been bothered
by things in my car, and I think it's the sensors in the seat to
adjust how the airbags deploy.

Also, a lot of these newer cars have LCD screens in them, which
could bother many people here.

Seems like an ES person should just become a "classic car enthusiast"... :-)

Marc

honey, there are a gazillion batteries in that car.
my roommate has one and i hesitate to go
anywhere in her car.  the emf is from the action
of the car, generating its own energy from the
movement of the car.  the car itself is one huge
transformer.  even the magnetic anti-gravity
things i've seen are based on ELECTRO-MAGNETIC
FIELDS.  darn!  i have an old-fashioned car that
runs on gas only and when it performs certain
functions, like braking or accelerating, it also
makes the EMF meter shoot up.  anything that
contains metal and produces sound or light or
movement is going to be producing EMF.  the
olden days really do seem golden now that we
know what we know, don't they?!??!?  
love, patricia



On May 30, 2013, at 1:26 AM, C.a.b. Johnson wrote:

> Speaking of cars, let this be a lesson to anyone wanting to rent a  car.
> Learn from my mistakes.  I rented a car for a long drive.  It
> was a 2012 Toyota Camry.  I told the rental desk I did not  want any
> wireless devices or capability in the car.  I made quite a ruckus about
> it.  They assured me it did not have GPS, cell phone or wireless...