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I am not very electrosensative. I began having problems when I was laid off and
sat at my own desk with wifi two ft. from my head. Our house is RF free now. That is when I began my journey of self education on all forms of RF and AC issues. I do not look for less than 100MHZ.. But I do know steel belted radial tires are a source emf and they can be demagnetized. Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti 805-642-0546 [hidden email] ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 8:42:20 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Rental Cars On May 30, John Puccetti <[hidden email]> wrote: > In my Prius it is the GPS and the Bluetooth that emit RF. They both can be > turned off. Well, I think it depends on how sensitive you are. I've been bothered by things in my car, and I think it's the sensors in the seat to adjust how the airbags deploy. Also, a lot of these newer cars have LCD screens in them, which could bother many people here. Seems like an ES person should just become a "classic car enthusiast"... :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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You know that is funny because I was told that once before. So I checked with
two meters Lutron and Coronet ED75 and I can find no abnormal readings at any speed. What kind of meter do you have? Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti 805-642-0546 [hidden email] ________________________________ From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Cc: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 9:06:10 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Rental Cars honey, there are a gazillion batteries in that car. my roommate has one and i hesitate to go anywhere in her car. the emf is from the action of the car, generating its own energy from the movement of the car. the car itself is one huge transformer. even the magnetic anti-gravity things i've seen are based on ELECTRO-MAGNETIC FIELDS. darn! i have an old-fashioned car that runs on gas only and when it performs certain functions, like braking or accelerating, it also makes the EMF meter shoot up. anything that contains metal and produces sound or light or movement is going to be producing EMF. the olden days really do seem golden now that we know what we know, don't they?!??!? love, patricia On May 30, 2013, at 1:26 AM, C.a.b. Johnson wrote: > Speaking of cars, let this be a lesson to anyone wanting to rent a car. > Learn from my mistakes. I rented a car for a long drive. It > was a 2012 Toyota Camry. I told the rental desk I did not want any > wireless devices or capability in the car. I made quite a ruckus about > it. They assured me it did not have GPS, cell phone or wireless... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Dont know. Do notice I have to bring a towell as people leave their perfume on the seat belt straps and it gets on my neck. I think it depends on the brand as some cars feel worse then others. Also what models, noticed some smell very plastic and some seem ok to me. Also remember to try ac and heater before saying you want that car as smoke or mold sits in some air vents . Maybe go to a place ahead of time and try your meter out. Good luck Has anyone tried that EMF supplement? Lynn D Moorpark --- In [hidden email], "C.a.b. Johnson" <superdrove@...> wrote: > > Speaking of cars, let this be a lesson to anyone wanting to rent a car. > Learn from my mistakes. I rented a car for a long drive. It > was a 2012 Toyota Camry. I told the rental desk I did not want any > wireless devices or capability in the car. I made quite a ruckus about > it. They assured me it did not have GPS, cell phone or wireless. They > obviously did not know what they were talking about and I was stupid > enough and in a hurry enough to take their word for it. I should have > measured the levels in the car as soon as I turned on the ignition and > before leaving the Rental agency. The people that work at Car Rental > Agencies are not qualified to know if each individual car has wireless > or not. Always check first! > > After 300 miles I decided to take out my meter and > measure the levels in a town I was in. That is when I found out the car > was > a nightmare. It was emitting the loudest most horrific sound I have > ever heard on the Acoustimeter and pulsing between .30 and .70 V/M. The > levels went to zero when I turned off the ignition and back up when I > turned the ignition on. > > I freaked out and called the Rental > Company and told them I wanted to trade the car in. They said I could > only trade it in at the nearest airport. Unfortunately I was in such a > remote place that the next drop off point was over 800 miles away. I > was just devastated because I had to drive 800 miles being blasted with > microwaves at horrendous levels. I asked if I could stop at a Auto > Repair station and have the wireless device, whatever it is, disabled. > They said it was probably the car's computer and it could not be > disabled. The car also had Serius Satellite Radio, but the radio was > never on, so I don't believe it could have been coming > from the radio. > > After 1100 miles of being assaulted by this > car, I fell ill the day after dropping it off, not to mention > feeling like I got hit in the head with a hammer. I am so angry. > > Does > anyone know what could have been causing these levels of microwave > radiation? If it is the car's computer, how do these computers emit > microwaves? > > C. Johnson > Superdrove@... > Wireless Refugee > > --- On Thu, 5/30/13, John Puccetti <johnpuccetti@...> wrote: > > From: John Puccetti <johnpuccetti@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] How do you block a satellite dish? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 2:27 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I drive a plug-in Prius and it has radar braking available so you can set it to > > the distance that you want the car to automatically brake within. Scary! In > > the manual it says if you have a pacemaker do not walk in front of the car. I > > disabled this feature . Wow! > > > > Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti > > 805-642-0546 > > johnpuccetti@... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Thanks for everyone's suggestions!
PS It may or may not be the dish and I get yellow red readings with pulsing. So I'm going to try a couple of things and see how it goes. >________________________________ > From: John Puccetti <[hidden email]> > >Aluminum screen is effective and we let air in, Mylar is good and cheap but no >air. |
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did you test back where the batteries are?
On May 30, 2013, at 11:13 AM, John Puccetti wrote: > You know that is funny because I was told that once before. So I checked with > two meters Lutron and Coronet ED75 and I can find no abnormal readings at any > speed. What kind of meter do you have? > > Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti > 805-642-0546 > [hidden email] > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Cc: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> > Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 9:06:10 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Rental Cars > > > honey, there are a gazillion batteries in that car. > my roommate has one and i hesitate to go > anywhere in her car. the emf is from the action > of the car, generating its own energy from the > movement of the car. the car itself is one huge > transformer. even the magnetic anti-gravity > things i've seen are based on ELECTRO-MAGNETIC > FIELDS. darn! i have an old-fashioned car that > runs on gas only and when it performs certain > functions, like braking or accelerating, it also > makes the EMF meter shoot up. anything that > contains metal and produces sound or light or > movement is going to be producing EMF. the > olden days really do seem golden now that we > know what we know, don't they?!??!? > love, patricia > > On May 30, 2013, at 1:26 AM, C.a.b. Johnson wrote: > >> Speaking of cars, let this be a lesson to anyone wanting to rent a car. >> Learn from my mistakes. I rented a car for a long drive. It >> was a 2012 Toyota Camry. I told the rental desk I did not want any >> wireless devices or capability in the car. I made quite a ruckus about >> it. They assured me it did not have GPS, cell phone or wireless... > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
Re: How do you block a satellite dish?
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I bet its a WiFi router. ------------------------------ On Thu, May 30, 2013 6:56 PM PDT Laura wrote: >Thanks for everyone's suggestions! > >PS It may or may not be the dish and I get yellow red readings with pulsing. So I'm going to try a couple of things and see how it goes. > > > >>________________________________ >> From: John Puccetti <[hidden email]> >> >>Aluminum screen is effective and we let air in, Mylar is good and cheap but no >>air. |
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Parked with the engine on max 3 mG 2mG is safe. Just to make sure I am going to test it at 45 mph to make sure it is not the tires. I will let you know. Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti 805-642-0546 [hidden email] ________________________________ From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Cc: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 8:34:18 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Rental Cars did you test back where the batteries are? On May 30, 2013, at 11:13 AM, John Puccetti wrote: > You know that is funny because I was told that once before. So I checked with > two meters Lutron and Coronet ED75 and I can find no abnormal readings at any > speed. What kind of meter do you have? > > Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti > 805-642-0546 > [hidden email] > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Cc: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> > Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 9:06:10 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Rental Cars > > > honey, there are a gazillion batteries in that car. > my roommate has one and i hesitate to go > anywhere in her car. the emf is from the action > of the car, generating its own energy from the > movement of the car. the car itself is one huge > transformer. even the magnetic anti-gravity > things i've seen are based on ELECTRO-MAGNETIC > FIELDS. darn! i have an old-fashioned car that > runs on gas only and when it performs certain > functions, like braking or accelerating, it also > makes the EMF meter shoot up. anything that > contains metal and produces sound or light or > movement is going to be producing EMF. the > olden days really do seem golden now that we > know what we know, don't they?!??!? > love, patricia > > On May 30, 2013, at 1:26 AM, C.a.b. Johnson wrote: > >> Speaking of cars, let this be a lesson to anyone wanting to rent a car. >> Learn from my mistakes. I rented a car for a long drive. It >> was a 2012 Toyota Camry. I told the rental desk I did not want any >> wireless devices or capability in the car. I made quite a ruckus about >> it. They assured me it did not have GPS, cell phone or wireless... > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: smells in cars and general EMF as Patricia mentioned - I was
severely car-sick as a child. My father changed his car often, though they were usually secondhand. The worst one was the brand new one witih the "new car" smell. Ugh. It stank of plastic and made me want to throw up as soon as I got in. It will only mean anything to the UK folk, but it was a Vauxhall Cavalier. :-P I much prefer old cars with less plastic in. On 31/05/2013, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote: > did you test back where the batteries are? > > > On May 30, 2013, at 11:13 AM, John Puccetti wrote: > >> You know that is funny because I was told that once before. So I checked >> with >> two meters Lutron and Coronet ED75 and I can find no abnormal readings at >> any >> speed. What kind of meter do you have? >> >> Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti >> 805-642-0546 >> [hidden email] >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Cc: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 9:06:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Rental Cars >> >> >> honey, there are a gazillion batteries in that car. >> my roommate has one and i hesitate to go >> anywhere in her car. the emf is from the action >> of the car, generating its own energy from the >> movement of the car. the car itself is one huge >> transformer. even the magnetic anti-gravity >> things i've seen are based on ELECTRO-MAGNETIC >> FIELDS. darn! i have an old-fashioned car that >> runs on gas only and when it performs certain >> functions, like braking or accelerating, it also >> makes the EMF meter shoot up. anything that >> contains metal and produces sound or light or >> movement is going to be producing EMF. the >> olden days really do seem golden now that we >> know what we know, don't they?!??!? >> love, patricia >> >> On May 30, 2013, at 1:26 AM, C.a.b. Johnson wrote: >> >>> Speaking of cars, let this be a lesson to anyone wanting to rent a car. >>> Learn from my mistakes. I rented a car for a long drive. It >>> was a 2012 Toyota Camry. I told the rental desk I did not want any >>> wireless devices or capability in the car. I made quite a ruckus about >>> it. They assured me it did not have GPS, cell phone or wireless... >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > > -- CHARLIE FOULKES BA Hons MSc ******************************************************** http://www.charliefoulkes.co.uk/truth http://www.mothersagainstsocialservices.org.uk |
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OK recheck of 2012 Plug in Prius highest 4.5 Milli Gauss near battery in back
seat. The ac to dc transformer for my computer speakers is 200 mG but drops to .2 mG at 18" away from transformer. Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti 805-642-0546 [hidden email] ________________________________ From: John Puccetti <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Fri, May 31, 2013 8:13:51 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Rental Cars Parked with the engine on max 3 mG 2mG is safe. Just to make sure I am going to test it at 45 mph to make sure it is not the tires. I will let you know. Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti 805-642-0546 [hidden email] ________________________________ From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Cc: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 8:34:18 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Rental Cars did you test back where the batteries are? On May 30, 2013, at 11:13 AM, John Puccetti wrote: > You know that is funny because I was told that once before. So I checked with > two meters Lutron and Coronet ED75 and I can find no abnormal readings at any > speed. What kind of meter do you have? > > Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti > 805-642-0546 > [hidden email] > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Cc: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> > Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 9:06:10 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Rental Cars > > > honey, there are a gazillion batteries in that car. > my roommate has one and i hesitate to go > anywhere in her car. the emf is from the action > of the car, generating its own energy from the > movement of the car. the car itself is one huge > transformer. even the magnetic anti-gravity > things i've seen are based on ELECTRO-MAGNETIC > FIELDS. darn! i have an old-fashioned car that > runs on gas only and when it performs certain > functions, like braking or accelerating, it also > makes the EMF meter shoot up. anything that > contains metal and produces sound or light or > movement is going to be producing EMF. the > olden days really do seem golden now that we > know what we know, don't they?!??!? > love, patricia > > On May 30, 2013, at 1:26 AM, C.a.b. Johnson wrote: > >> Speaking of cars, let this be a lesson to anyone wanting to rent a car. >> Learn from my mistakes. I rented a car for a long drive. It >> was a 2012 Toyota Camry. I told the rental desk I did not want any >> wireless devices or capability in the car. I made quite a ruckus about >> it. They assured me it did not have GPS, cell phone or wireless... > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hey, I am affected by reads of 0.3 uW/m2 when it's pulsed RF! So, I feel for you getting hit with 1+ mW/m2. We all have different sensitivity levels. I've purchased expensive high frequency meters and measure when I begin to "feel" something happening.
Snoshoes (?) suggestion of the water bottles is a good one, even though it may be unsightly. I've purchased foil faced foam board from Lowes and put it over my windows and it helps a lot - I face the foil side towards wall or window because it stops RF from bouncing around the house. Keep it in good shape and if it doesn't help you can return it for a refund. Also, I've purchased rolls of aluminum window screen material on Ebay to put over my windows (it must be metal screen not the synthetic polyester stuff). Even though it has small holes, the RF sees it as a solid metal wall and has very little penetration. It's been useful for blocking much RF except for blocking what's coming off one neighbor's white plastic rectangular antenna mounted on a tripod on his roof. That thing is nasty and hard to block. I've asked the neighbor what it is and does and have received three different answers..they aren't telling! Probably stealing some free internet or TV access. |
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Oops, I meant to say what Al Harding said about the water bottles....
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