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Okay I made a mistake. I used kelp for few weeks w/o relying on enough panthenine acid. I lost a few lbs on kelp & then gained it back. In the beginning I ha a reaction to panthethine b/c my adrenals were so low. I am a person w anxiety, who was afraid to help the adrenals up to possibly cause anxiety. What is Tulsi? Kathy From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias had no idea Tulsi lowers cortisol mine is already low.. --- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: > > I have suffered from extreme adrenal fatigue, almost recuperated/rebuilt after 4 years. Get adrenals and thyroid tested. Read the James Wilson book on AF, I had personal help > from him as well. Please avoid Tulsi, it lowers cortisol. > > From: Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> > >To: [hidden email] > >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 0:03 > >Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >  > > > > > >Hi Kooky and all, > >Blood tests are notorious for being in accurate. Why? Because the medical system keeps "changing" the levels that supposedly show what's normal and what is NOT normal, or healthy. > >What this often translates to, is that by the time mainstream medicine diagnoses someone's thyroid being out of whack, THEIR THRYOID HAS ALREADY HIT ROCK BOTTOM....this is something you DON"T want. The lower that thryoid goes, the harder it is to bring it back in line. Whereas if you catch it earlier, its much easier to deal with. > >For those who really want to check their own thryoids, put a pen/pad of paper by your bed, take your temperature every morning BEFORE you get out of bed. If you are using a digital thermomneter, ignore the beeps and keep it in your mouth under tongue, for 4 min. Do this for a week...and then average out your temperatures. Add them all up, and divide by the number of days you took your temp. Any temp UNDER 97.6 means the thyroid is OUT of balance. If it is OVER 99, this means the thryoid is OVER active, they call this hyPER thyroidsim. Under active is HYPO thryoidism. > >Do NOT Rely on blood test...This is called the Barnes Basal Temperature Test and you can find it on line, by googling it. > >Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons? > >Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed, they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support. That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally work their way out of the body. > >So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then add in the thyroid support. > >Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair- lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the "word" you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping, wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few) > >Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary, exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP? > >This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN. > >My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium, Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India (holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like > almonds, which is important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up, and a small amt before you go to bed. > >Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in many cases, the adrenals are also low. > >In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried. Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and pushed to their limit. > >Lizzie > > > > > > > > > >To: [hidden email] > >From: calicocat477@... > >Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > >HI, > > > >I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better. > > > >Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time? > > > >http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong > > > >Kathy > > > >furstc0404@... wrote: > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > >Hi Lizzie: > > > >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an > > > >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements > > > >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms > > > >have been acute and severe!! > > > >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out... > > > >Sometimes, I continue with my activities. > > > >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking, heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed. > > > >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally? > > > >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number of other medical problems. > > > >My thyroid test came back "normal", my blood sugar level "normal" > > > >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the last six months show "normal"... > > > >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take? > > > >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes > > > >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate > > > >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage, > > > >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Kookie > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Great. Its terrific stuff. Will replenish magnesium levels like no other product.
From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:38 >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >Thanks, I ordered the Original Magnesium Joint >spray... can't wait for it!! > >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: >> >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=+magnesium+oil >> >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:21 >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> > >> > >> >  >> > >> > >> > >> >There is only Magnesium Chloride by Bobby's Healthy Shop are >> >you sure it was Amazon UK? >> > >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> For magnesium, get topical/transdermal magnesium hydrochloride oil, it goes through your skin and is taken up by the cells immediately. >> >> It is the most amqazing magnesium supplement I have ever tried, ubelievable. You can get it at Amazon UK under the BetterYou >> >> brand and others, but only use a Zechstein origin product.  >> >> >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:22 >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >  >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Thanks, Kathy, its probably quite a few things, >> >> >for instance, I read that we Vit E to process Q10, >> >> >and I am low on that too. Guess will have to spend >> >> >some time to read. >> >> > >> >> >Same for Magnesium, can also cause heart spasms >> >> >and sudden cardiac death. >> >> > >> >> >I read on a health forum about people suddenly dying, >> >> >and some were found to be very low on magnesium. >> >> > >> >> >One man wrote about his father, who had leg cramps >> >> >and died a few months later, I often wonder how many >> >> >of those people suffered from nutrient deficiency!! >> >> > >> >> >I hope that I won't react to the Q10.. SIGH, need to >> >> >keep positive. >> >> > >> >> >--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Oh yes, >> >> >> >> >> >> I forgot to mention, but carnitine helps my heart symptoms some, too. And CoQ10--yes, very much--my heart symptoms need B12, calcium AEP, and pantethine, tho, also, to go away, but it takes only about 30 minutes to an hour after I take them for all of the autonomic nervous system symptoms to go away.  >> >> >> >> >> >> DIane >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >> >> >> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:06 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than a day immediately >> >> >> >> >> >> with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try liposomal Ubiquinol. >> >> >> >> >> >> You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg. >> >> >> >> >> >> It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine (best for heart is propionyl form) >> >> >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals brand >> >> >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride "oil", ubelieveable >> >> >> >> >> >> absorption, remember to get an original Zechstein sourced product >> >> >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role. >> >> >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04 >> >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >  >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good article, just read it. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. >> >> >> >> >> >> >Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, >> >> >> >> >> >> >etc.. which I have. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. >> >> >> >> >> >> >It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was >> >> >> >> >> >> >tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >May have to try this asap, and who knows. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kookie >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'‚ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and severe!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >where the whole body trembles... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >etc... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kookie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Tulsi is the Indian name for Holy Basil. I dont like pantetheine frome xperience, it can push your adrenals too much, if the other B's are not
balanced, or if there are problems with hypothyroid. I prefer pantothenic acid. From: KathyB <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:50 >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >Okay I made a mistake. I used kelp for few weeks w/o relying on enough > >panthenine acid. I lost a few lbs on kelp & then gained it back. > > In the beginning I ha a reaction to panthethine b/c > >my adrenals were so low. I am a person w anxiety, who was afraid to help the adrenals up >to possibly cause anxiety. > >What is Tulsi? > >Kathy > >From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > >had no idea Tulsi lowers cortisol > >mine is already low.. > >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: > >> > >> I have suffered from extreme adrenal fatigue, almost recuperated/rebuilt after 4 years. Get adrenals and thyroid tested. Read the James Wilson book on AF, I had personal help > >> from him as well. Please avoid Tulsi, it lowers cortisol. > >> > >> From: Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> > >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 0:03 > >> >Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > > >> > > >> >  > >> > > >> > > >> >Hi Kooky and all, > >> >Blood tests are notorious for being in accurate. Why? Because the medical system keeps "changing" the levels that supposedly show what's normal and what is NOT normal, or healthy. > >> >What this often translates to, is that by the time mainstream medicine diagnoses someone's thyroid being out of whack, THEIR THRYOID HAS ALREADY HIT ROCK BOTTOM....this is something you DON"T want. The lower that thryoid goes, the harder it is to bring it back in line. Whereas if you catch it earlier, its much easier to deal with. > >> >For those who really want to check their own thryoids, put a pen/pad of paper by your bed, take your temperature every morning BEFORE you get out of bed. If you are using a digital thermomneter, ignore the beeps and keep it in your mouth under tongue, for 4 min. Do this for a week...and then average out your temperatures. Add them all up, and divide by the number of days you took your temp. Any temp UNDER 97.6 means the thyroid is OUT of balance. If it is OVER 99, this means the thryoid is OVER active, they call this hyPER thyroidsim. Under active is HYPO thryoidism. > >> >Do NOT Rely on blood test...This is called the Barnes Basal Temperature Test and you can find it on line, by googling it. > >> >Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons? > >> >Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed, they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support. That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally work their way out of the body. > >> >So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then add in the thyroid support. > >> >Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair- lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the "word" you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping, wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few) > >> >Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary, exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP? > >> >This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN. > >> >My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium, Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India (holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like > >> almonds, which is important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up, and a small amt before you go to bed. > >> >Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in many cases, the adrenals are also low. > >> >In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried. Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and pushed to their limit. > >> >Lizzie > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >From: calicocat477@... > >> >Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700 > >> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > > >> >HI, > >> > > >> >I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better. > >> > > >> >Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time? > >> > > >> >http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong > >> > > >> >Kathy > >> > > >> >furstc0404@... wrote: > >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > > >> >Hi Lizzie: > >> > > >> >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an > >> > > >> >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements > >> > > >> >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms > >> > > >> >have been acute and severe!! > >> > > >> >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out... > >> > > >> >Sometimes, I continue with my activities. > >> > > >> >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking, heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed. > >> > > >> >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally? > >> > > >> >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number of other medical problems. > >> > > >> >My thyroid test came back "normal", my blood sugar level "normal" > >> > > >> >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the last six months show "normal"... > >> > > >> >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take? > >> > > >> >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes > >> > > >> >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate > >> > > >> >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage, > >> > > >> >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual. > >> > > >> >Thanks, > >> > > >> >Kookie > >> > > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Is it thyroid or adrenals that make you so tired you can hardly get out of bed? I wake up & want to get up but it now takes my body time to be able to move. Feel like you're awake but not. From: KathyB <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 6:50 PM Okay I made a mistake. I used kelp for few weeks w/o relying on enough panthenine acid. I lost a few lbs on kelp & then gained it back. In the beginning I ha a reaction to panthethine b/c my adrenals were so low. I am a person w anxiety, who was afraid to help the adrenals up to possibly cause anxiety. What is Tulsi? Kathy > From: Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> > >To: [hidden email] > >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 0:03 > >Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons? > >Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed, they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support. That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally work their way out of the body. > >So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then add in the thyroid support. > >Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair- lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the "word" you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping, wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few) > >Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary, exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP? > >This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN. > >My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium, Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India (holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like > almonds, which is important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up, and a small amt before you go to bed. > >Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in many cases, the adrenals are also low. > >In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried. Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and pushed to their limit. > >Lizzie > > > > > > > > > >To: [hidden email] > >From: calicocat477@... > >Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > >HI, > > > >I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better. > > > >Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time? > > > >http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong > > > >Kathy > > > >furstc0404@... wrote: > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > >Hi Lizzie: > > > >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an > > > >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements > > > >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms > > > >have been acute and severe!! > > > >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out... > > > >Sometimes, I continue with my activities. > > > >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking, heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed. > > > >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally? > > > >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number of other medical problems. > > > >My thyroid test came back "normal", my blood sugar level "normal" > > > >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the last six months show "normal"... > > > >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take? > > > >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes > > > >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate > > > >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage, > > > >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Kookie > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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We used Basil spice for the last few mos. So, I've been pushing the adrenals. I took one in the car & I felt a bit shaky. Now I' can hardly get out of bed. Pushing the thyroid down. I'll get pantothenic M b's are out of wack, w the b-12 need. I have been loosing the word I want to use all week. Kathy From: Ole Alstrup <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias T Tulsi is the Indian name for Holy Basil. I dont like pantetheine frome xperience, it can push your adrenals too much, if the other B's are not balanced, or if there are problems with hypothyroid. I prefer pantothenic acid. From: KathyB <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:50 >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >Okay I made a mistake. I used kelp for few weeks w/o relying on enough > >panthenine acid. I lost a few lbs on kelp & then gained it back. > > In the beginning I ha a reaction to panthethine b/c > >my adrenals were so low. I am a person w anxiety, who was afraid to help the adrenals up >to possibly cause anxiety. > >What is Tulsi? > >Kathy > >From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > >had no idea Tulsi lowers cortisol > >mine is already low.. > >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: > >> > >> I have suffered from extreme adrenal fatigue, almost recuperated/rebuilt after 4 years. Get adrenals and thyroid tested. Read the James Wilson book on AF, I had personal help > >> from him as well. Please avoid Tulsi, it lowers cortisol. > >> > >> From: Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> > >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 0:03 > >> >Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > > >> > > >> >  > >> > > >> > > >> >Hi Kooky and all, > >> >Blood tests are notorious for being in accurate. Why? Because the medical system keeps "changing" the levels that supposedly show what's normal and what is NOT normal, or healthy. > >> >What this often translates to, is that by the time mainstream medicine diagnoses someone's thyroid being out of whack, THEIR THRYOID HAS ALREADY HIT ROCK BOTTOM....this is something you DON"T want. The lower that thryoid goes, the harder it is to bring it back in line. Whereas if you catch it earlier, its much easier to deal with. > >> >For those who really want to check their own thryoids, put a pen/pad of paper by your bed, take your temperature every morning BEFORE you get out of bed. If you are using a digital thermomneter, ignore the beeps and keep it in your mouth under tongue, for 4 min. Do this for a week...and then average out your temperatures. Add them all up, and divide by the number of days you took your temp. Any temp UNDER 97.6 means the thyroid is OUT of balance. If it is OVER 99, this means the thryoid is OVER active, they call this hyPER thyroidsim. Under active is HYPO thryoidism. > >> >Do NOT Rely on blood test...This is called the Barnes Basal Temperature Test and you can find it on line, by googling it. > >> >Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons? > >> >Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed, they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support. That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally work their way out of the body. > >> >So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then add in the thyroid support. > >> >Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair- lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the "word" you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping, wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few) > >> >Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary, exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP? > >> >This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN. > >> >My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium, Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India (holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like > >> almonds, which is important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up, and a small amt before you go to bed. > >> >Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in many cases, the adrenals are also low. > >> >In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried. Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and pushed to their limit. > >> >Lizzie > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >From: calicocat477@... > >> >Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700 > >> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > > >> >HI, > >> > > >> >I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better. > >> > > >> >Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time? > >> > > >> >http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong > >> > > >> >Kathy > >> > > >> >furstc0404@... wrote: > >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > > >> >Hi Lizzie: > >> > > >> >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an > >> > > >> >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements > >> > > >> >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms > >> > > >> >have been acute and severe!! > >> > > >> >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out... > >> > > >> >Sometimes, I continue with my activities. > >> > > >> >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking, heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed. > >> > > >> >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally? > >> > > >> >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number of other medical problems. > >> > > >> >My thyroid test came back "normal", my blood sugar level "normal" > >> > > >> >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the last six months show "normal"... > >> > > >> >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take? > >> > > >> >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes > >> > > >> >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate > >> > > >> >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage, > >> > > >> >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual. > >> > > >> >Thanks, > >> > > >> >Kookie > >> > > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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You can get some good help from Carol W. - moderator and educator-in-residence From: KathyB <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 2:01 >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >We used Basil spice for the last few mos. So, I've been pushing the adrenals. I took one in the car & I felt a bit shaky. Now I' can hardly get out of bed. Pushing the thyroid down. > >I'll get pantothenic M b's are out of wack, w the b-12 need. I have been loosing the word I want to use all week. > >Kathy >From: Ole Alstrup <[hidden email]> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >T > > > >Tulsi is the Indian name for Holy Basil. I dont like pantetheine frome xperience, it can push your adrenals too much, if the other B's are not > >balanced, or if there are problems with hypothyroid. I prefer pantothenic acid. > >From: KathyB <[hidden email]> > >>To: [hidden email] > >>Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:50 > >>Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Okay I made a mistake. I used kelp for few weeks w/o relying on enough > >> > >>panthenine acid. I lost a few lbs on kelp & then gained it back. > >> > >> In the beginning I ha a reaction to panthethine b/c > >> > >>my adrenals were so low. I am a person w anxiety, who was afraid to help the adrenals up > >>to possibly cause anxiety. > >> > >>What is Tulsi? > >> > >>Kathy > >> > >>From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> > >>Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > >> > >> > >>had no idea Tulsi lowers cortisol > >> > >>mine is already low.. > >> > >>--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I have suffered from extreme adrenal fatigue, almost recuperated/rebuilt after 4 years. Get adrenals and thyroid tested. Read the James Wilson book on AF, I had personal help > >> > >>> from him as well. Please avoid Tulsi, it lowers cortisol. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> From: Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> > >> > >>> >To: [hidden email] > >> > >>> >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 0:03 > >> > >>> >Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >  > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >Hi Kooky and all, > >> > >>> >Blood tests are notorious for being in accurate. Why? Because the medical system keeps "changing" the levels that supposedly show what's normal and what is NOT normal, or healthy. > >> > >>> >What this often translates to, is that by the time mainstream medicine diagnoses someone's thyroid being out of whack, THEIR THRYOID HAS ALREADY HIT ROCK BOTTOM....this is something you DON"T want. The lower that thryoid goes, the harder it is to bring it back in line. Whereas if you catch it earlier, its much easier to deal with. > >> > >>> >For those who really want to check their own thryoids, put a pen/pad of paper by your bed, take your temperature every morning BEFORE you get out of bed. If you are using a digital thermomneter, ignore the beeps and keep it in your mouth under tongue, for 4 min. Do this for a week...and then average out your temperatures. Add them all up, and divide by the number of days you took your temp. Any temp UNDER 97.6 means the thyroid is OUT of balance. If it is OVER 99, this means the thryoid is OVER active, they call this hyPER thyroidsim. Under active is HYPO thryoidism. > >> > >>> >Do NOT Rely on blood test...This is called the Barnes Basal Temperature Test and you can find it on line, by googling it. > >> > >>> >Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons? > >> > >>> >Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed, they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support. That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally work their way out of the body. > >> > >>> >So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then add in the thyroid support. > >> > >>> >Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair- lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the "word" you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping, wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few) > >> > >>> >Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary, exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP? > >> > >>> >This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN. > >> > >>> >My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium, Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India (holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like > >> > >>> almonds, which is important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up, and a small amt before you go to bed. > >> > >>> >Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in many cases, the adrenals are also low. > >> > >>> >In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried. Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and pushed to their limit. > >> > >>> >Lizzie > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >To: [hidden email] > >> > >>> >From: calicocat477@... > >> > >>> >Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700 > >> > >>> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >HI, > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better. > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time? > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >Kathy > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >furstc0404@... wrote: > >> > >>> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >Hi Lizzie: > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >have been acute and severe!! > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out... > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >Sometimes, I continue with my activities. > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking, heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed. > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally? > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number of other medical problems. > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >My thyroid test came back "normal", my blood sugar level "normal" > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the last six months show "normal"... > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take? > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage, > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual. > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >Thanks, > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >Kookie > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >>> > >> > >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks so much. I got more going on than that though. I have Lyme or MS. Kathy From: Ole Alstrup <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias I would recommend you to join the adrenalfatigue forum at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/adrenalfatigue/ You can get some good help from Carol W. - moderator and educator-in-residence [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Wow....what a coincidence! Do you mean to tell me that someone made up a syndrome for something that already exists by a different name? All those symptoms: night blindness (thryoid), hearing (adrenal), balance and coordination problems (thryoid), dry skin (thyroid), abnormal heartbeat/arthymia (thyroid), digestive issues (thryoid)......are classic textbook symptoms of thryoid imbalances. But hey, don't take my word for this, read it from an expert. The following book is one of the best books written on the thyroid and adrenal issues. This dr from the UK, has been around for decades...I have a copy of his original book, which he has since changed the name to the below title. HIs original book was titled: THE GREAT THYROID SCANDAL AND HOW TO SURVIVE IT. Check it out people....you will find the same symptoms listed in this book, written A LONG TIME AGO. And this guy KNOWS his stuff!! And there are many, many more dr's today- most who are not strictly mainstream, but a blend bwte alternative and mainstream..who's articles/books echo the very same symptoms. Different countries....same information. See for yourself...and save yourself alot of grief. Most people don't have any idea just how important the thyroid and adrenal glands REALLY are. Lizzie Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... www.amazon.com Books Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and ... To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:29:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias Retinitis pigmentosa is classed as an ion channel disease, Kathy. So it is also something which I would think people with tight junction permeability could have issues with. [Emfs can cause tj permeability.] Diane --- On Sat, 8/13/11, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote: From: KathyB <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:29 PM http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm Has anyone looked into this possibility: Refsum or ARD? Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the retina (retinitis pigmentosa). If the disease progresses symptoms can be: deafness, loss of the sense of smell (anosmia), problems with balance and coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat abnormalities (cardiac arrhythmias). Those w this lack the enzyme to break down foods that contain phytanic acid, including dairy products; beef and lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod, and haddock. I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I noticed burning after eating beef. I also noticed it from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some may need a plasma exchange. Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities. Kathy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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No, thats not what I said. What those scientists are saying, is no matter what the disease, all diseases, no matter what we call them, or label them, resulted from some type of toxicity or lack of a nutrient or several nutrients. These manifest themselves with various symptoms and breakdown in connected various systems As you know already, if you have thyroid dysfunction, there are other systems connected to this, ie, adrenals, pancreas, and biliary, adrenals, kidneys, heart etc... As for most symptoms, and I remember telling doctors my symptoms, and the honest would say, that it could be any 40 or more disease they can think of on top of the head!! Meaning: The symptoms listed for adrenals and thyroid could be attributed to other causes, likewise, some may have adrenals/thryoid issue and have no symptoms, or few symptoms. We are brought up to believe, that if we have symptoms=illness=disease, its given a name, and a target approach will "cure" or "control" it... in fact, whenever there is a health issue, its connected to all other systems, and we simply don't have the answer how to treat at cellular level. Yes, I read those books about thyroid/adrenals (Have three or four books at home) use to belong thryoid forums, tried adrenal support from Nutri, saw alternative endocrinologist specializing in treating thyroid... my hypothyroidism was triggered by two prescribed meds 14 years ago. Its actually well known that many meds can and do cause thyroid issues, and fluoride in tap water etc.. The problem with adrenal supps, when I was able to tolerate them about six years ago, for a few months, then crashed when I had to stop (allergies). Its not healthy to stay on those supps for long period of time, (IMHO) what happens when you stop adrenal support supps? Kookie --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote: > > > Wow....what a coincidence! > Do you mean to tell me that someone made up a syndrome for something that already exists by a different name? > All those symptoms: night blindness (thryoid), hearing (adrenal), balance and coordination problems (thryoid), dry skin (thyroid), abnormal heartbeat/arthymia (thyroid), digestive issues (thryoid)......are classic textbook symptoms of thryoid imbalances. But hey, don't take my word for this, read it from an expert. > The following book is one of the best books written on the thyroid and adrenal issues. This dr from the UK, has been around for decades...I have a copy of his original book, which he has since changed the name to the below title. HIs original book was titled: THE GREAT THYROID SCANDAL AND HOW TO SURVIVE IT. > Check it out people....you will find the same symptoms listed in this book, written A LONG TIME AGO. And this guy KNOWS his stuff!! And there are many, many more dr's today- most who are not strictly mainstream, but a blend bwte alternative and mainstream..who's articles/books echo the very same symptoms. > Different countries....same information. > See for yourself...and save yourself alot of grief. Most people don't have any idea just how important the thyroid and adrenal glands REALLY are. > Lizzie > > > > > Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... > > www.amazon.com Books Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and ... > > > > > > To: [hidden email] > From: evie15422@... > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:29:19 -0700 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > > > Retinitis pigmentosa is classed as an ion channel disease, Kathy. So it is also something which I would think people with tight junction permeability could have issues with. [Emfs can cause tj permeability.] > > Diane > > --- On Sat, 8/13/11, KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote: > > From: KathyB <calicocat477@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > To: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:29 PM > > > > http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm > > Has anyone looked into this possibility: Refsum or ARD? > > Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the > > retina (retinitis pigmentosa). If the disease progresses symptoms can be: > > deafness, loss of the sense of smell > > (anosmia), problems with balance and > > coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat > > abnormalities (cardiac > > arrhythmias). > > > > Those w this lack the enzyme to break down > > foods that contain phytanic acid, including > > dairy products; beef and > > lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod, and haddock. > > I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I noticed burning after eating beef. I also noticed it > > from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some may need a plasma exchange. > > Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities. > > Kathy > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for eg.. The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years. Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things. I will need to work this out without much help from doctors. The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....?????? Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more so on fingers. Anyone knows??? i --- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > No, thats not what I said. > > What those scientists are saying, is no matter what the disease, all diseases, > no matter what we call them, or label them, resulted > from some type of toxicity or lack of a nutrient or several nutrients. These > manifest themselves with various symptoms and breakdown in connected > various systems > > As you know already, if you have thyroid dysfunction, there are other > systems connected to this, ie, adrenals, pancreas, and biliary, adrenals, > kidneys, heart etc... > > As for most symptoms, and I remember telling doctors my symptoms, and the honest would say, that it could be any 40 or more disease they can think of on top of the head!! > > Meaning: The symptoms listed for adrenals and thyroid could be attributed to other causes, likewise, some may have adrenals/thryoid issue and have no symptoms, or few symptoms. > > We are brought up to believe, that if we have symptoms=illness=disease, its given a name, and a target approach will "cure" or "control" it... in fact, whenever there is a health issue, its connected to all other systems, and we simply don't have the answer how to treat at cellular level. > > Yes, I read those books about thyroid/adrenals (Have three or four books at home) use to belong thryoid forums, tried adrenal support from Nutri, saw alternative endocrinologist specializing in treating thyroid... my hypothyroidism was triggered by two prescribed meds > 14 years ago. Its actually well known that many meds can and do cause thyroid issues, and fluoride in tap water etc.. > > The problem with adrenal supps, when I was able to tolerate them about six years ago, for a few months, then crashed when I had to stop (allergies). Its not healthy to stay on those supps for long period of time, (IMHO) what happens when you stop adrenal support supps? > Kookie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote: > > > > > > Wow....what a coincidence! > > Do you mean to tell me that someone made up a syndrome for something that already exists by a different name? > > All those symptoms: night blindness (thryoid), hearing (adrenal), balance and coordination problems (thryoid), dry skin (thyroid), abnormal heartbeat/arthymia (thyroid), digestive issues (thryoid)......are classic textbook symptoms of thryoid imbalances. But hey, don't take my word for this, read it from an expert. > > The following book is one of the best books written on the thyroid and adrenal issues. This dr from the UK, has been around for decades...I have a copy of his original book, which he has since changed the name to the below title. HIs original book was titled: THE GREAT THYROID SCANDAL AND HOW TO SURVIVE IT. > > Check it out people....you will find the same symptoms listed in this book, written A LONG TIME AGO. And this guy KNOWS his stuff!! And there are many, many more dr's today- most who are not strictly mainstream, but a blend bwte alternative and mainstream..who's articles/books echo the very same symptoms. > > Different countries....same information. > > See for yourself...and save yourself alot of grief. Most people don't have any idea just how important the thyroid and adrenal glands REALLY are. > > Lizzie > > > > > > > > > > Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... > > > > www.amazon.com Books Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and ... > > > > > > > > > > > > To: [hidden email] > > From: evie15422@ > > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:29:19 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Retinitis pigmentosa is classed as an ion channel disease, Kathy. So it is also something which I would think people with tight junction permeability could have issues with. [Emfs can cause tj permeability.] > > > > Diane > > > > --- On Sat, 8/13/11, KathyB <calicocat477@> wrote: > > > > From: KathyB <calicocat477@> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > To: [hidden email] > > Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:29 PM > > > > > > > > http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm > > > > Has anyone looked into this possibility: Refsum or ARD? > > > > Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the > > > > retina (retinitis pigmentosa). If the disease progresses symptoms can be: > > > > deafness, loss of the sense of smell > > > > (anosmia), problems with balance and > > > > coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat > > > > abnormalities (cardiac > > > > arrhythmias). > > > > > > > > Those w this lack the enzyme to break down > > > > foods that contain phytanic acid, including > > > > dairy products; beef and > > > > lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod, and haddock. > > > > I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I noticed burning after eating beef. I also noticed it > > > > from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some may need a plasma exchange. > > > > Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities. > > > > Kathy > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > |
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Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that.
--- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms > due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs > refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level > show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various > type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for > eg.. > > The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be > diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is > also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years. > > Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things. > I will need to work this out without much help from doctors. > > The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....?????? > Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small > fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the > cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more > so on fingers. > > Anyone knows??? > |
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Hi, Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc? The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low on others as well. So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right, nothing in the body will work right. Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot. Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels. Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK) I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the title- (The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title) **As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida. I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com) mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil is called the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa Buckthorn & cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is very expensive.. so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars for a 4 fl oz of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way to do this is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5 drops each of the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before bed, put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your hands. I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong Anti-Fungal.. this is what is needed to combat candida. IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will make the arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when exposed to emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well. This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid. Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are "normal"> Look up: The Barnes BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No doctors, no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right. **I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart health. Soaking in a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet another supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily absorbed, and gives people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works quite well, as the SKIN is the body's largest organ. Blessings of Many, Lizzie Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... www.amazon.com Books Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that. --- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms > due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs > refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level > show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various > type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for > eg.. > > The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be > diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is > also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years. > > Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things. > I will need to work this out without much help from doctors. > > The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....?????? > Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small > fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the > cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more > so on fingers. > > Anyone knows??? > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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Hi Elizabeth,
I was wondering if electrical sensitivity and thyroid problems are strongly related. I have a hyperthyroid and at one time it was severe and then moderate and then severely hypo. Have others experienced these thyroid problems? I have found the Thyroid Patient Advocacy to be very informative and they also recommend the book you mentioned. Thanks for reading. Cheryl --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM Hi, Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc? The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low on others as well. So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right, nothing in the body will work right. Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot. Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels. Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK) I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the title- (The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title) **As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida. I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com) mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil is called the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa Buckthorn & cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is very expensive.. so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars for a 4 fl oz of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way to do this is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5 drops each of the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before bed, put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your hands. I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong Anti-Fungal.. this is what is needed to combat candida. IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will make the arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when exposed to emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well. This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid. Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are "normal"> Look up: The Barnes BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No doctors, no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right. **I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart health. Soaking in a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet another supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily absorbed, and gives people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works quite well, as the SKIN is the body's largest organ. Blessings of Many, Lizzie Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that. --- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms > due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs > refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level > show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various > type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for > eg.. > > The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be > diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is > also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years. > > Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things. > I will need to work this out without much help from doctors. > > The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....?????? > Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small > fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the > cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more > so on fingers. > > Anyone knows??? > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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HI, You know, that is a really good question. Here's my thoughts. If a hundred people in a room, all decided to take the BArnes Basal Temp Test...I wouldn't be at all surprised if 90 of them showed an out of balance thryoid! Many toxins effect the thryoid, from mercury in fillings, mercury in seafood, fluoride in water/juice/toothpaste..ect, prescriptions medications are 90 percent fluoride, then you have dirty electricity, emf's, ....bottom line? It would be the "norm" today to have a thryoid issue. And as to being HyPER thryoid, which is an over active thryoid..this is just as dangerous as having an under active thryoid. Here's why. When a thryoid is over active, it is still a symptom of the thryoid being out of balance. The damage to the body, to how the body regulates, may be to the other end..where over thryoid usually means people are always HOT...but its still the same problem. Those with over active thryoids can and do have heart issues, weight issues, vision problems as with graves disease, ... I don't think having a thryoid issue makes people more susceptible to being ES. What I do think is that those who have thryoid issues- who are NOT sensitive to emf's, usually have OTHER problems, or it could very well be, that they just don't SEE the connection that WE see. I know people who are very sensitive to emf's...they just blow offf the heada ches and take motrin..they blame it on stress....they get aches, they blame it on the weather, on old injuries...the list of the ways people rationaize this stuff, is too long to write! Something else...I see a thryoid being over active as a common first stage to thryoid issues. I've seen people who have graves or over active, stay in this cycle for years...its like the gear gets stuck. And I have seen these people eventually go from having an over active thryoid, to an UNDER active thyroid. The people who I"ve seen who didn't appear to go thru that first stage of having an Over active thyroid, had low adrenal issues. The low adrenal issues combined with thryoid issues, gave them low energy, all of the symtoms of both low thryoid and low adrenals..severe low adrenals usually ;means thin people- skinny people...people with mild adrenal and underactive thryoids usually gain weight. But all of them usually share some common problems, like: allergies, thin hair, bruised skin under eyes or puffy under eyes, digestive problems, candida, low body strenght, clumsiness, vision problems/hearing problems/ low lidido...except in cases of over active thryoid, the libido can be on over drive....the opposite of low thryoid, where the libido is like gone... Ever see people who look like they OVER plucked their eyebrows? LIke the last half is missing? Those are severe low low thryoid cases! Ever see people with bruises under their eyes? Those are adrenal cases. The thryoid can YO YO, back and forth. This is the thryoid and adrenals trying very very hard to regulate. The take home message is: something/or things are deeply stressing out this gland, which is a vital part of the immune system. The body cannot live without these two glands...that is HOW important they are to health. It doesn't mean that emf's won't effect us, if these glands are working right...but it can mean the difference between being able to function quite well...or being in misery most of the time. Some believe that healthy bodies are reacting appropiately to nasty toxins like wireless radiation. There is a Dr Hal Huggins, who wrote a book on mercury fillings...(the book is called: It's All In Your Head") This man staged the first of many fights with the fda over mercury in silver fillings..he is an expert in this. Anyway, he has a clinic in I think New Mexico..his assistant told me that they believe a healthy body is supposed to react to toxins- be it emf's or whatever the source ...and that those who do not react..are too toxic. When it comes right down to it, there are 2 things that cause dis-ease. Toxic overload & Nutritional Deficiencies. So did you order the book? I read that book years ago and so many LIGHTS went ON for me. I now have many friends who have ordered that book.... Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:09:54 -0700 Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias Hi Elizabeth, I was wondering if electrical sensitivity and thyroid problems are strongly related. I have a hyperthyroid and at one time it was severe and then moderate and then severely hypo. Have others experienced these thyroid problems? I have found the Thyroid Patient Advocacy to be very informative and they also recommend the book you mentioned. Thanks for reading. Cheryl --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM Hi, Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc? The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low on others as well. So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right, nothing in the body will work right. Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot. Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels. Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK) I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the title- (The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title) **As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida. I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com) mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil is called the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa Buckthorn & cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is very expensive.. so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars for a 4 fl oz of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way to do this is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5 drops each of the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before bed, put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your hands. I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong Anti-Fungal.. this is what is needed to combat candida. IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will make the arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when exposed to emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well. This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid. Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are "normal"> Look up: The Barnes BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No doctors, no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right. **I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart health. Soaking in a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet another supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily absorbed, and gives people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works quite well, as the SKIN is the body's largest organ. Blessings of Many, Lizzie Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... www.amazon.com Books Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that. --- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms > due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs > refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level > show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various > type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for > eg.. > > The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be > diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is > also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years. > > Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things. > I will need to work this out without much help from doctors. > > The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....?????? > Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small > fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the > cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more > so on fingers. > > Anyone knows??? > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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Hi, Cheryl,
I have also had the same experience--hypothyroid on and off. I finally tracked that down to eating too many soy products. Soy products (and various other things) interfere with thyroid function. As to what Elizabeth is saying, tho, we do often need extra nutrients to help our thyroids, even when we are getting enough iodine. The same is true of our adrenals. I personally cannot use iodine directly; all celiacs are intolerant of iodine. I can once in awhile put a bit of potassium iodide in 16 oz of water (2 or 3 drops) and drink it. However, if I use this on an on-going basis, I end up with rusty palms and feet, and feel ill. I also get rusty palms and feet from kelp. Cheryl, if you are gluten-intolerant, your thyroid can often go off and on like that. Just an idea to check, if you haven't yet. Bless you, Diane --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 2:09 PM Hi Elizabeth, I was wondering if electrical sensitivity and thyroid problems are strongly related. I have a hyperthyroid and at one time it was severe and then moderate and then severely hypo. Have others experienced these thyroid problems? I have found the Thyroid Patient Advocacy to be very informative and they also recommend the book you mentioned. Thanks for reading. Cheryl --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM Hi, Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc? The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low on others as well. So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right, nothing in the body will work right. Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot. Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels. Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK) I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the title- (The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title) **As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida. I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com) mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil is called the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa Buckthorn & cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is very expensive.. so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars for a 4 fl oz of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way to do this is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5 drops each of the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before bed, put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your hands. I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong Anti-Fungal.. this is what is needed to combat candida. IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will make the arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when exposed to emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well. This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid. Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are "normal"> Look up: The Barnes BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No doctors, no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right. **I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart health. Soaking in a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet another supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily absorbed, and gives people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works quite well, as the SKIN is the body's largest organ. Blessings of Many, Lizzie Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that. --- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms > due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs > refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level > show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various > type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for > eg.. > > The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be > diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is > also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years. > > Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things. > I will need to work this out without much help from doctors. > > The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....?????? > Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small > fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the > cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more > so on fingers. > > Anyone knows??? > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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Hi, Kooky,
I am a little confused about what you are saying. Are you saying that you don't agree with taking targeted nutrients for the thyroid and adrenals? That is what you are about to do with the Ubiquitol. I have taken Q10 for years, along with calcium AEP and pantethine for my adrenals. Those have worked for me quite well. I was like you when I started--all the therapies seemed to bring my energies down instead of up. Qi-Gong would have never worked for me back then. One reason why this is particularly true for us, is the toxin issues. The lymphatics get overloaded and congested with toxins. The lymphatics use huge amounts of Q10, calcium, and pantethine to keep working; they steal the nutrition from the adrenals in order to keep functioning. Then, due to liver detox deficiencies (nutrient deficiencies), all these systems come tumbling down. You are so right about toxins and nutrient deficiencies causing everything. I have taken Q10, cal AEP, and pantethine now for over 13 years. Are you saying that you always become intolerant of nutrients? Have you tried quercitin? It helped me with all my food intolerance (except gluten/celiac disease). I also start with very small amounts of supplements and work up to tolerable levels over the space of 6 months or so when I start most nutrients, as you mentioned you do. Just a bit confused about what you mean, Diane --- On Sun, 8/14/11, furstc0404 <[hidden email]> wrote: From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 3:41 AM No, thats not what I said. What those scientists are saying, is no matter what the disease, all diseases, no matter what we call them, or label them, resulted from some type of toxicity or lack of a nutrient or several nutrients. These manifest themselves with various symptoms and breakdown in connected various systems As you know already, if you have thyroid dysfunction, there are other systems connected to this, ie, adrenals, pancreas, and biliary, adrenals, kidneys, heart etc... As for most symptoms, and I remember telling doctors my symptoms, and the honest would say, that it could be any 40 or more disease they can think of on top of the head!! Meaning: The symptoms listed for adrenals and thyroid could be attributed to other causes, likewise, some may have adrenals/thryoid issue and have no symptoms, or few symptoms. We are brought up to believe, that if we have symptoms=illness=disease, its given a name, and a target approach will "cure" or "control" it... in fact, whenever there is a health issue, its connected to all other systems, and we simply don't have the answer how to treat at cellular level. Yes, I read those books about thyroid/adrenals (Have three or four books at home) use to belong thryoid forums, tried adrenal support from Nutri, saw alternative endocrinologist specializing in treating thyroid... my hypothyroidism was triggered by two prescribed meds 14 years ago. Its actually well known that many meds can and do cause thyroid issues, and fluoride in tap water etc.. The problem with adrenal supps, when I was able to tolerate them about six years ago, for a few months, then crashed when I had to stop (allergies). Its not healthy to stay on those supps for long period of time, (IMHO) what happens when you stop adrenal support supps? Kookie --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote: > > > Wow....what a coincidence! > Do you mean to tell me that someone made up a syndrome for something that already exists by a different name? > All those symptoms: night blindness (thryoid), hearing (adrenal), balance and coordination problems (thryoid), dry skin (thyroid), abnormal heartbeat/arthymia (thyroid), digestive issues (thryoid)......are classic textbook symptoms of thryoid imbalances. But hey, don't take my word for this, read it from an expert. > The following book is one of the best books written on the thyroid and adrenal issues. This dr from the UK, has been around for decades...I have a copy of his original book, which he has since changed the name to the below title. HIs original book was titled: THE GREAT THYROID SCANDAL AND HOW TO SURVIVE IT. > Check it out people....you will find the same symptoms listed in this book, written A LONG TIME AGO. And this guy KNOWS his stuff!! And there are many, many more dr's today- most who are not strictly mainstream, but a blend bwte alternative and mainstream..who's articles/books echo the very same symptoms. > Different countries....same information. > See for yourself...and save yourself alot of grief. Most people don't have any idea just how important the thyroid and adrenal glands REALLY are. > Lizzie > > > > > Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... > > www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and ... > > > > > > To: [hidden email] > From: evie15422@... > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:29:19 -0700 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > > > Retinitis pigmentosa is classed as an ion channel disease, Kathy. So it is also something which I would think people with tight junction permeability could have issues with. [Emfs can cause tj permeability.] > > Diane > > --- On Sat, 8/13/11, KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote: > > From: KathyB <calicocat477@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > To: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:29 PM > > > > http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm > > Has anyone looked into this possibility: Refsum or ARD? > > Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the > > retina (retinitis pigmentosa). If the disease progresses symptoms can be: > > deafness, loss of the sense of smell > > (anosmia), problems with balance and > > coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat > > abnormalities (cardiac > > arrhythmias). > > > > Those w this lack the enzyme to break down > > foods that contain phytanic acid, including > > dairy products; beef and > > lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod, and haddock. > > I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I noticed burning after eating beef. I also noticed it > > from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some may need a plasma exchange. > > Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities. > > Kathy > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Diane,
Thanks for your quick response. I don't seem to have any reactions to foods with gluten but I am checking labels more carefully now. I seem to have many of the common symptoms of gluten intolerance. I am assuming that soy products effect estrogen levels which in turn effect the adrenal and thyroid. Does that make sense to you? Any ideas as to why my thyroid went from severely hyperactive to 90% better overnight? It was a good thing that the severity of it ended and never returned. But I still puzzle over how something like that could change overnight. It was delightfully strange. Cheryl --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 11:46 AM Hi, Cheryl, I have also had the same experience--hypothyroid on and off. I finally tracked that down to eating too many soy products. Soy products (and various other things) interfere with thyroid function. As to what Elizabeth is saying, tho, we do often need extra nutrients to help our thyroids, even when we are getting enough iodine. The same is true of our adrenals. I personally cannot use iodine directly; all celiacs are intolerant of iodine. I can once in awhile put a bit of potassium iodide in 16 oz of water (2 or 3 drops) and drink it. However, if I use this on an on-going basis, I end up with rusty palms and feet, and feel ill. I also get rusty palms and feet from kelp. Cheryl, if you are gluten-intolerant, your thyroid can often go off and on like that. Just an idea to check, if you haven't yet. Bless you, Diane --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 2:09 PM Hi Elizabeth, I was wondering if electrical sensitivity and thyroid problems are strongly related. I have a hyperthyroid and at one time it was severe and then moderate and then severely hypo. Have others experienced these thyroid problems? I have found the Thyroid Patient Advocacy to be very informative and they also recommend the book you mentioned. Thanks for reading. Cheryl --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM Hi, Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc? The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low on others as well. So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right, nothing in the body will work right. Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot. Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels. Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK) I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the title- (The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title) **As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida. I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com) mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil is called the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa Buckthorn & cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is very expensive.. so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars for a 4 fl oz of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way to do this is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5 drops each of the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before bed, put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your hands. I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong Anti-Fungal.. this is what is needed to combat candida. IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will make the arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when exposed to emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well. This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid. Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are "normal"> Look up: The Barnes BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No doctors, no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right. **I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart health. Soaking in a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet another supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily absorbed, and gives people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works quite well, as the SKIN is the body's largest organ. Blessings of Many, Lizzie Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that. --- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms > due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs > refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level > show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various > type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for > eg.. > > The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be > diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is > also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years. > > Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things. > I will need to work this out without much help from doctors. > > The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....?????? > Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small > fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the > cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more > so on fingers. > > Anyone knows??? > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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PS: I didn't mention the thyroid here, but it is also involved in the organ dysfunctionality cascade. Like Lizzie said, it steps in and tries to help the adrenals, and it goes down too. But all of this happened due to toxins and nutrient deficiency. So it is always important to ask oneself, "why? Why do I have toxin build up and nutrient deficiency?" For me, the answer was celiac disease. Cd caused gut damage and a lot of the nutrients just didn't get thru to my cells and organs; in other cases, I did not eat enough good foods to deal with the amount of mess the nutrients had to address.
We should not lose sight that emfs can damage tjs and the body, too. It is likely that our guts can be damaged from emfs, as well. So avoidance is very important for us. A friend of mine told me today that she lives in the middle of nowhere and an ES friend of hers lives in a city. The city friend was complaining that she did all that my friend was doing and was still ill. My friend remarked, but you are better and you STILL live in the city! My friend then told her that she, herself, could not visit the city without getting worse. One thing many ESsers never come to terms with is where they live. Living in Paris or New York is, itself, a huge strain on the body. It is most difficult to avoid emfs if you are living in the city. Yet many try, due to their careers, etc. My 5 cents, Diane --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 3:06 PM Hi, Kooky, I am a little confused about what you are saying. Are you saying that you don't agree with taking targeted nutrients for the thyroid and adrenals? That is what you are about to do with the Ubiquitol. I have taken Q10 for years, along with calcium AEP and pantethine for my adrenals. Those have worked for me quite well. I was like you when I started--all the therapies seemed to bring my energies down instead of up. Qi-Gong would have never worked for me back then. One reason why this is particularly true for us, is the toxin issues. The lymphatics get overloaded and congested with toxins. The lymphatics use huge amounts of Q10, calcium, and pantethine to keep working; they steal the nutrition from the adrenals in order to keep functioning. Then, due to liver detox deficiencies (nutrient deficiencies), all these systems come tumbling down. You are so right about toxins and nutrient deficiencies causing everything. I have taken Q10, cal AEP, and pantethine now for over 13 years. Are you saying that you always become intolerant of nutrients? Have you tried quercitin? It helped me with all my food intolerance (except gluten/celiac disease). I also start with very small amounts of supplements and work up to tolerable levels over the space of 6 months or so when I start most nutrients, as you mentioned you do. Just a bit confused about what you mean, Diane --- On Sun, 8/14/11, furstc0404 <[hidden email]> wrote: From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 3:41 AM No, thats not what I said. What those scientists are saying, is no matter what the disease, all diseases, no matter what we call them, or label them, resulted from some type of toxicity or lack of a nutrient or several nutrients. These manifest themselves with various symptoms and breakdown in connected various systems As you know already, if you have thyroid dysfunction, there are other systems connected to this, ie, adrenals, pancreas, and biliary, adrenals, kidneys, heart etc... As for most symptoms, and I remember telling doctors my symptoms, and the honest would say, that it could be any 40 or more disease they can think of on top of the head!! Meaning: The symptoms listed for adrenals and thyroid could be attributed to other causes, likewise, some may have adrenals/thryoid issue and have no symptoms, or few symptoms. We are brought up to believe, that if we have symptoms=illness=disease, its given a name, and a target approach will "cure" or "control" it... in fact, whenever there is a health issue, its connected to all other systems, and we simply don't have the answer how to treat at cellular level. Yes, I read those books about thyroid/adrenals (Have three or four books at home) use to belong thryoid forums, tried adrenal support from Nutri, saw alternative endocrinologist specializing in treating thyroid... my hypothyroidism was triggered by two prescribed meds 14 years ago. Its actually well known that many meds can and do cause thyroid issues, and fluoride in tap water etc.. The problem with adrenal supps, when I was able to tolerate them about six years ago, for a few months, then crashed when I had to stop (allergies). Its not healthy to stay on those supps for long period of time, (IMHO) what happens when you stop adrenal support supps? Kookie --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote: > > > Wow....what a coincidence! > Do you mean to tell me that someone made up a syndrome for something that already exists by a different name? > All those symptoms: night blindness (thryoid), hearing (adrenal), balance and coordination problems (thryoid), dry skin (thyroid), abnormal heartbeat/arthymia (thyroid), digestive issues (thryoid)......are classic textbook symptoms of thryoid imbalances. But hey, don't take my word for this, read it from an expert. > The following book is one of the best books written on the thyroid and adrenal issues. This dr from the UK, has been around for decades...I have a copy of his original book, which he has since changed the name to the below title. HIs original book was titled: THE GREAT THYROID SCANDAL AND HOW TO SURVIVE IT. > Check it out people....you will find the same symptoms listed in this book, written A LONG TIME AGO. And this guy KNOWS his stuff!! And there are many, many more dr's today- most who are not strictly mainstream, but a blend bwte alternative and mainstream..who's articles/books echo the very same symptoms. > Different countries....same information. > See for yourself...and save yourself alot of grief. Most people don't have any idea just how important the thyroid and adrenal glands REALLY are. > Lizzie > > > > > Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... > > www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and ... > > > > > > To: [hidden email] > From: evie15422@... > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:29:19 -0700 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > > > Retinitis pigmentosa is classed as an ion channel disease, Kathy. So it is also something which I would think people with tight junction permeability could have issues with. [Emfs can cause tj permeability.] > > Diane > > --- On Sat, 8/13/11, KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote: > > From: KathyB <calicocat477@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > To: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:29 PM > > > > http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm > > Has anyone looked into this possibility: Refsum or ARD? > > Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the > > retina (retinitis pigmentosa). If the disease progresses symptoms can be: > > deafness, loss of the sense of smell > > (anosmia), problems with balance and > > coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat > > abnormalities (cardiac > > arrhythmias). > > > > Those w this lack the enzyme to break down > > foods that contain phytanic acid, including > > dairy products; beef and > > lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod, and haddock. > > I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I noticed burning after eating beef. I also noticed it > > from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some may need a plasma exchange. > > Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities. > > Kathy > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hmmmm, Cheryl,
Well, yes, that does sound like it could have been directly caused by emfs or very bad stress of some sort. One thing to note here, tho... this would be a red flag to keep your thyroid well nourished (and adrenals, too). Diane --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 3:14 PM Hi Diane, Thanks for your quick response. I don't seem to have any reactions to foods with gluten but I am checking labels more carefully now. I seem to have many of the common symptoms of gluten intolerance. I am assuming that soy products effect estrogen levels which in turn effect the adrenal and thyroid. Does that make sense to you? Any ideas as to why my thyroid went from severely hyperactive to 90% better overnight? It was a good thing that the severity of it ended and never returned. But I still puzzle over how something like that could change overnight. It was delightfully strange. Cheryl --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 11:46 AM Hi, Cheryl, I have also had the same experience--hypothyroid on and off. I finally tracked that down to eating too many soy products. Soy products (and various other things) interfere with thyroid function. As to what Elizabeth is saying, tho, we do often need extra nutrients to help our thyroids, even when we are getting enough iodine. The same is true of our adrenals. I personally cannot use iodine directly; all celiacs are intolerant of iodine. I can once in awhile put a bit of potassium iodide in 16 oz of water (2 or 3 drops) and drink it. However, if I use this on an on-going basis, I end up with rusty palms and feet, and feel ill. I also get rusty palms and feet from kelp. Cheryl, if you are gluten-intolerant, your thyroid can often go off and on like that. Just an idea to check, if you haven't yet. Bless you, Diane --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 2:09 PM Hi Elizabeth, I was wondering if electrical sensitivity and thyroid problems are strongly related. I have a hyperthyroid and at one time it was severe and then moderate and then severely hypo. Have others experienced these thyroid problems? I have found the Thyroid Patient Advocacy to be very informative and they also recommend the book you mentioned. Thanks for reading. Cheryl --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM Hi, Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc? The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low on others as well. So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right, nothing in the body will work right. Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot. Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels. Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK) I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the title- (The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title) **As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida. I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com) mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil is called the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa Buckthorn & cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is very expensive.. so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars for a 4 fl oz of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way to do this is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5 drops each of the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before bed, put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your hands. I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong Anti-Fungal.. this is what is needed to combat candida. IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will make the arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when exposed to emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well. This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid. Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are "normal"> Look up: The Barnes BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No doctors, no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right. **I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart health. Soaking in a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet another supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily absorbed, and gives people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works quite well, as the SKIN is the body's largest organ. Blessings of Many, Lizzie Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that. --- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms > due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs > refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level > show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various > type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for > eg.. > > The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be > diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is > also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years. > > Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things. > I will need to work this out without much help from doctors. > > The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....?????? > Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small > fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the > cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more > so on fingers. > > Anyone knows??? > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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Hi Diane,
I do take a lot of supplements for both of these problems and all my other health problems. I am going crazy taking so many supplements every day - not to even mention the cost. I know they do help me but I still am not doing well. Anybody else have this frustration? Cheryl --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 12:30 PM Hmmmm, Cheryl, Well, yes, that does sound like it could have been directly caused by emfs or very bad stress of some sort. One thing to note here, tho... this would be a red flag to keep your thyroid well nourished (and adrenals, too). Diane --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 3:14 PM Hi Diane, Thanks for your quick response. I don't seem to have any reactions to foods with gluten but I am checking labels more carefully now. I seem to have many of the common symptoms of gluten intolerance. I am assuming that soy products effect estrogen levels which in turn effect the adrenal and thyroid. Does that make sense to you? Any ideas as to why my thyroid went from severely hyperactive to 90% better overnight? It was a good thing that the severity of it ended and never returned. But I still puzzle over how something like that could change overnight. It was delightfully strange. Cheryl --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 11:46 AM Hi, Cheryl, I have also had the same experience--hypothyroid on and off. I finally tracked that down to eating too many soy products. Soy products (and various other things) interfere with thyroid function. As to what Elizabeth is saying, tho, we do often need extra nutrients to help our thyroids, even when we are getting enough iodine. The same is true of our adrenals. I personally cannot use iodine directly; all celiacs are intolerant of iodine. I can once in awhile put a bit of potassium iodide in 16 oz of water (2 or 3 drops) and drink it. However, if I use this on an on-going basis, I end up with rusty palms and feet, and feel ill. I also get rusty palms and feet from kelp. Cheryl, if you are gluten-intolerant, your thyroid can often go off and on like that. Just an idea to check, if you haven't yet. Bless you, Diane --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 2:09 PM Hi Elizabeth, I was wondering if electrical sensitivity and thyroid problems are strongly related. I have a hyperthyroid and at one time it was severe and then moderate and then severely hypo. Have others experienced these thyroid problems? I have found the Thyroid Patient Advocacy to be very informative and they also recommend the book you mentioned. Thanks for reading. Cheryl --- On Sun, 8/14/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 10:49 AM Hi, Wouldn't it be nice if it was that simple..just take zinc? The reality is, low in one mineral is usually low on others as well. So, the question is: what in the body controls how we absorb and digest nutrients? Answer: the thyroid. People, while that Thyroid gland may be very small...but it is foolish to discount how VERY powerful that little gland really is.....and if the thryoid isn't working right, nothing in the body will work right. Those fissures are very painful...I know, I used to get them alot. Waking up ravenous...starving sounds like Thryoid/Adrenal. Thryoid regulates metabolism, adrenals regulate blood sugar levels. Thryoid regulates the heart. My bet is on the thryoid...A really good book to read is written by: Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield, (he's from the UK) I have his original book, same book, american publishers had him change the title- (The Great Thryoid Scandal and HOw to Survive It- was the original title) **As for cracks on hands...I think this is just one of many signs of candida. I found using: Sea Buckthorn OIl (www.mountainroseherbs.com ) and an essential oil blend called: Melrose (www.youngliving.com) mixed with coconut oil helped heal these very painful cracks. Sea Buckthorn Oil is called the Omega 7. Originally I had an organic lotion from Aubrey Organics called: SEa Buckthorn & cucumber with Ester-C that I mixed with the Melrose Oil. But that lotion is very expensive.. so I decided to try my own little mixture, seeing that I was paying 16. dollars for a 4 fl oz of the Aubreys lotion. You do have to warm up the coconut oil, so an easier way to do this is to use organic Olive Oil, or Apricot Oil, and mix in 2 oz of Olive OIl, to 5 drops each of the Melrose and Sea Buckthorn Oil. Rub this mixture on your hands and before bed, put some on, and put a cotton pair of ankle socks or cotton gloves on your hands. I found that this mixture, because the Melrose Oil is a very strong Anti-Fungal.. this is what is needed to combat candida. IN a pinch, pure Lavender Essential Oil, a few drps right on the heart, will make the arthymia stop and is safe. My daughter s/times gets this heart thing, when exposed to emf's. You can get the Lavender Oil from youngliving, as well. This will help the symptoms...the cause is more then likely the thryoid. Many who have their blood tested for thryoid are told they are "normal"> Look up: The Barnes BAsal Temperature TEst....this is somethng you can do at home, for free, that will tell you if your thryoid is out of balance. No doctors, no fees, just a pad of paper, a pen, a thermometer, and the willingness to take your temp before you get up every morning, for a week, and then average out your temp. Anythng under 97.6 means the thyroid is not working right. **I have also mentioned in other posts the importance of Magnesium and heart health. Soaking in a Magnesium bath, or doing foot soaks bypasses the liver having to digest yet another supplement...and for many, typical pill forms of magnesium are not easily absorbed, and gives people problems. Absorbing thru the skin, called: trandermal therapy, works quite well, as the SKIN is the body's largest organ. Blessings of Many, Lizzie Amazon.com: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy ... www.amazon.com › Books › Health, Mind & Body - CachedSimilar 9 reviews - $29.99 - In stockDr Durrant-Peatfield covers this crucial subject completely and with perfect clarity ... I recommend to you the book by Barry Durrant Peatfield, "Your Thyroid and To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:19:55 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias Zinc deficiency can cause exactly that. --- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > Its very difficult in this case to explain my cluster of symptoms > due to restrictive socialized health system in the UK. GPs > refuse a glucose challenge test, because my blood sugar level > show normal despite the fact that it is often normal for various > type of metabolic insulin disfunction such as hyperinsulemia for > eg.. > > The hunger pangs with arrythmias worse in the mornings could be > diabetes, or some other metabolic dysfunction, but for sure, there is > also deficiency in nutrients due to a very limited diet for many years. > > Those severe and acute hunger pangs could be a number of things. > I will need to work this out without much help from doctors. > > The fissures on my fingers are signs of.....?????? > Not caused by dry crackling skin, its spontaneous small > fissures, one or two, painful but am more worried about the > cause. At one point I had those on my heels too, but more > so on fingers. > > Anyone knows??? > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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