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I get Healthy Origins Ubiquinol. The prices can't be beat. You can use my code, TEV814, and get $5 off your first order if you'd like. Steve --- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > > Good article, just read it. > > I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. > Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, > etc.. which I have. > > Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. > It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was > tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. > > May have to try this asap, and who knows. > > Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? > > Kookie > > > > --- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > > > > You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine > > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > > >To: [hidden email] > > >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 > > >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > > > > >Â > > > > > > > > >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing > > >acute electrical conductivity in the heart > > >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? > > >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent > > >and severe!! > > > > > >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias > > >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point > > >where the whole body trembles... > > > > > >There have been some other weird symptoms > > >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! > > > > > >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take > > >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic > > >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, > > >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is > > >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and > > >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients > > >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal > > >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia > > >etc... > > > > > >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes > > >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose > > >for which there is no label yet!! > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > >Kookie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > |
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Retinitis pigmentosa is classed as an ion channel disease, Kathy. So it is also something which I would think people with tight junction permeability could have issues with. [Emfs can cause tj permeability.]
Diane --- On Sat, 8/13/11, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote: From: KathyB <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:29 PM http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm Has anyone looked into this possibility: Refsum or ARD? Increasing night blindness due to degeneration of the retina (retinitis pigmentosa). If the disease progresses symptoms can be: deafness, loss of the sense of smell (anosmia), problems with balance and coordination (ataxia), dry and scaly skin (ichthyosis), and heartbeat abnormalities (cardiac arrhythmias). Those w this lack the enzyme to break down foods that contain phytanic acid, including dairy products; beef and lamb; and fatty fish such as tuna, cod, and haddock. I'd like to look into it. Both my son & I noticed burning after eating beef. I also noticed it from a vitamin that contains cod & haddock. Treatment is diet changes. Some may need a plasma exchange. Untreated, ARD can lead to sudden death caused by heartbeat abnormalities. Kathy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I had very frightening cardiac symptoms, medically tested/diagnosed. All gone now. My personal physician deduced the cause was dirty electricity. #1 thing to do is reduce your exposure! Then look at improving diet, getting metals/root canals out of mouth, etc. Reducing all stress you can. One-dose classical homeopathy can help greatly. Shivani Arjuna www.lifeEnergies.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks a lot Steve, I can't take that one, caps are safer for me, I open them, try a tiny little bit to make sure I don't react, then add over a period of time before swallowing the whole dose, hence caps. Will look for Jarrow instead in a health food shop and keep the order from Amazon. --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@...> wrote: > > Go to www.iherb.com > I get Healthy Origins Ubiquinol. The prices can't be beat. You can use my code, TEV814, and get $5 off your first order if you'd like. > Steve > > --- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Good article, just read it. > > > > I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. > > Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, > > etc.. which I have. > > > > Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. > > It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was > > tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. > > > > May have to try this asap, and who knows. > > > > Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? > > > > Kookie > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > > > > > > You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine > > > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > > > >To: [hidden email] > > > >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 > > > >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > > > > > > > >Â > > > > > > > > > > > >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing > > > >acute electrical conductivity in the heart > > > >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? > > > >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent > > > >and severe!! > > > > > > > >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias > > > >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point > > > >where the whole body trembles... > > > > > > > >There have been some other weird symptoms > > > >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! > > > > > > > >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take > > > >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic > > > >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, > > > >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is > > > >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and > > > >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients > > > >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal > > > >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia > > > >etc... > > > > > > > >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes > > > >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose > > > >for which there is no label yet!! > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >Kookie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > |
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Which homeo rem? K --- In [hidden email], SArjuna@... wrote: > > > I had very frightening cardiac symptoms, medically tested/diagnosed. All gone now. > > My personal physician deduced the cause was dirty electricity. #1 thing to do is reduce your exposure! > > Then look at improving diet, getting metals/root canals out of mouth, etc. Reducing all stress you can. > > One-dose classical homeopathy can help greatly. > > Shivani Arjuna > www.lifeEnergies.com > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Yes, that is what I wrote; Jarrow use Kaneka Ubiqinol, but has much better absorption because it
is liposome based. Order from iherb and get through DHL, you have it in 2 days. But you can get it so many places in the UK. From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:02 >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >Is Jarrow using Kaneka Ubiquinol? >Just read Kaneka is the best... > >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: >> >> OK, then it seems Q10 is what you should get asap, remember to get the reduced Kaneka Ubiquinol form. I tried >> different brands, but find that QH from Jarrow have superior absorption and dont feel synthetic. >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 21:33 >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> > >> > >> >  >> > >> > >> >WOW, this is amazing. >> > >> >I just read the symptoms of QO10 deficiency, and I have all of them!! >> > >> >http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=118 >> > >> >It all makes sense to me now. For a few years I had to eat large >> >quantities of lamb to calm those palps. it worked - for a while. >> >Lamb contains Q10!! I am allergic to fish, which contains higher. >> > >> >I tried L-Carnitine, and that helped, again, not sustainable. Then >> >all amino acids from yellow split peas, and green peas, and Hemp. >> >Didn't help much, high content of all amino acids! >> > >> >Am also low on folic acid and omega fatty acids, but allergic to >> >fish, and flax seed oil does not convert well to DHA & EPA. >> > >> >Low on other nutrients due to restrictive diet for so long. >> > >> >I have little doubt that Q10 has a role to play in those palps >> >and weird hypoglycemic attacks, cramps, bleeding gums >> >and so forth. >> > >> >I will order the Jarrow formula. I read that Now is also good >> >as well as Life Extension. I am worried about beeswax it contains!! >> > >> >I heard about other people saying that when they took Q10 it triggered >> >palpitations. Would that be because the dose was too high? >> > >> >I started on a multi vits and minerals a few days ago.. >> >Does not contain all necessary nutrients, nor does it contain >> >Q10. In anycase, if I was low a few years ago, then... >> > >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than a day immediately >> >> with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try liposomal Ubiquinol. >> >> You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg. >> >> It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine (best for heart is propionyl form) >> >>  >> >> Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals brand >> >>  >> >> Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride "oil", ubelieveable >> >> absorption, remember to get an original Zechstein sourced product >> >>  >> >> Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role. >> >>  >> >>  >> >> >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04 >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >  >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Good article, just read it. >> >> > >> >> >I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. >> >> >Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, >> >> >etc.. which I have. >> >> > >> >> >Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. >> >> >It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was >> >> >tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. >> >> > >> >> >May have to try this asap, and who knows. >> >> > >> >> >Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? >> >> > >> >> >Kookie >> >> > >> >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine >> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing >> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart >> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? >> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent >> >> >> >and severe!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias >> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point >> >> >> >where the whole body trembles... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms >> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take >> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic >> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, >> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is >> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and >> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients >> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal >> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia >> >> >> >etc... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes >> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose >> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Thanks >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Kookie >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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This is Ubiquinone, not Ubiquinol.
From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:04 >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >I ordered this one: > >http://www.jarrow.com/product.php?prodid=154 > >Will arrive between 20-24 August... will see if I can >it sooner!! > >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: >> >> OK, then it seems Q10 is what you should get asap, remember to get the reduced Kaneka Ubiquinol form. I tried >> different brands, but find that QH from Jarrow have superior absorption and dont feel synthetic. >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 21:33 >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> > >> > >> >  >> > >> > >> >WOW, this is amazing. >> > >> >I just read the symptoms of QO10 deficiency, and I have all of them!! >> > >> >http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=118 >> > >> >It all makes sense to me now. For a few years I had to eat large >> >quantities of lamb to calm those palps. it worked - for a while. >> >Lamb contains Q10!! I am allergic to fish, which contains higher. >> > >> >I tried L-Carnitine, and that helped, again, not sustainable. Then >> >all amino acids from yellow split peas, and green peas, and Hemp. >> >Didn't help much, high content of all amino acids! >> > >> >Am also low on folic acid and omega fatty acids, but allergic to >> >fish, and flax seed oil does not convert well to DHA & EPA. >> > >> >Low on other nutrients due to restrictive diet for so long. >> > >> >I have little doubt that Q10 has a role to play in those palps >> >and weird hypoglycemic attacks, cramps, bleeding gums >> >and so forth. >> > >> >I will order the Jarrow formula. I read that Now is also good >> >as well as Life Extension. I am worried about beeswax it contains!! >> > >> >I heard about other people saying that when they took Q10 it triggered >> >palpitations. Would that be because the dose was too high? >> > >> >I started on a multi vits and minerals a few days ago.. >> >Does not contain all necessary nutrients, nor does it contain >> >Q10. In anycase, if I was low a few years ago, then... >> > >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than a day immediately >> >> with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try liposomal Ubiquinol. >> >> You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg. >> >> It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine (best for heart is propionyl form) >> >>  >> >> Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals brand >> >>  >> >> Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride "oil", ubelieveable >> >> absorption, remember to get an original Zechstein sourced product >> >>  >> >> Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role. >> >>  >> >>  >> >> >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04 >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >  >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Good article, just read it. >> >> > >> >> >I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. >> >> >Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, >> >> >etc.. which I have. >> >> > >> >> >Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. >> >> >It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was >> >> >tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. >> >> > >> >> >May have to try this asap, and who knows. >> >> > >> >> >Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? >> >> > >> >> >Kookie >> >> > >> >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine >> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing >> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart >> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? >> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent >> >> >> >and severe!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias >> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point >> >> >> >where the whole body trembles... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms >> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take >> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic >> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, >> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is >> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and >> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients >> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal >> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia >> >> >> >etc... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes >> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose >> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Thanks >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Kookie >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Kooky and all, Blood tests are notorious for being in accurate. Why? Because the medical system keeps "changing" the levels that supposedly show what's normal and what is NOT normal, or healthy. What this often translates to, is that by the time mainstream medicine diagnoses someone's thyroid being out of whack, THEIR THRYOID HAS ALREADY HIT ROCK BOTTOM....this is something you DON"T want. The lower that thryoid goes, the harder it is to bring it back in line. Whereas if you catch it earlier, its much easier to deal with. For those who really want to check their own thryoids, put a pen/pad of paper by your bed, take your temperature every morning BEFORE you get out of bed. If you are using a digital thermomneter, ignore the beeps and keep it in your mouth under tongue, for 4 min. Do this for a week...and then average out your temperatures. Add them all up, and divide by the number of days you took your temp. Any temp UNDER 97.6 means the thyroid is OUT of balance. If it is OVER 99, this means the thryoid is OVER active, they call this hyPER thyroidsim. Under active is HYPO thryoidism. Do NOT Rely on blood test...This is called the Barnes Basal Temperature Test and you can find it on line, by googling it. Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons? Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed, they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support. That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally work their way out of the body. So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then add in the thyroid support. Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair- lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the "word" you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping, wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few) Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary, exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP? This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN. My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium, Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India (holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like almonds, which is important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up, and a small amt before you go to bed. Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in many cases, the adrenals are also low. In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried. Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and pushed to their limit. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias HI, I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better. Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time? http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong Kathy [hidden email] wrote: Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias Hi Lizzie: Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms have been acute and severe!! I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out... Sometimes, I continue with my activities. I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking, heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed. The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally? It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number of other medical problems. My thyroid test came back "normal", my blood sugar level "normal" I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the last six months show "normal"... Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take? I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage, on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual. Thanks, Kookie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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For magnesium, get topical/transdermal magnesium hydrochloride oil, it goes through your skin and is taken up by the cells immediately.
It is the most amqazing magnesium supplement I have ever tried, ubelievable. You can get it at Amazon UK under the BetterYou brand and others, but only use a Zechstein origin product. From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:22 >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >Thanks, Kathy, its probably quite a few things, >for instance, I read that we Vit E to process Q10, >and I am low on that too. Guess will have to spend >some time to read. > >Same for Magnesium, can also cause heart spasms >and sudden cardiac death. > >I read on a health forum about people suddenly dying, >and some were found to be very low on magnesium. > >One man wrote about his father, who had leg cramps >and died a few months later, I often wonder how many >of those people suffered from nutrient deficiency!! > >I hope that I won't react to the Q10.. SIGH, need to >keep positive. > >--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: >> >> Oh yes, >> >> I forgot to mention, but carnitine helps my heart symptoms some, too. And CoQ10--yes, very much--my heart symptoms need B12, calcium AEP, and pantethine, tho, also, to go away, but it takes only about 30 minutes to an hour after I take them for all of the autonomic nervous system symptoms to go away.  >> >> DIane >> >> --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: >> >> From: Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:06 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than a day immediately >> >> with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try liposomal Ubiquinol. >> >> You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg. >> >> It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine (best for heart is propionyl form) >> >>  >> >> Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals brand >> >>  >> >> Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride "oil", ubelieveable >> >> absorption, remember to get an original Zechstein sourced product >> >>  >> >> Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role. >> >>  >> >>  >> >> >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04 >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >  >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Good article, just read it. >> >> > >> >> >I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. >> >> >Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, >> >> >etc.. which I have. >> >> > >> >> >Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. >> >> >It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was >> >> >tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. >> >> > >> >> >May have to try this asap, and who knows. >> >> > >> >> >Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? >> >> > >> >> >Kookie >> >> > >> >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine >> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing >> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart >> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? >> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent >> >> >> >and severe!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias >> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point >> >> >> >where the whole body trembles... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms >> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take >> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic >> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, >> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is >> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and >> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients >> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal >> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia >> >> >> >etc... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes >> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose >> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Thanks >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Kookie >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I have suffered from extreme adrenal fatigue, almost recuperated/rebuilt after 4 years. Get adrenals and thyroid tested. Read the James Wilson book on AF, I had personal help
from him as well. Please avoid Tulsi, it lowers cortisol. From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 0:03 >Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >Hi Kooky and all, >Blood tests are notorious for being in accurate. Why? Because the medical system keeps "changing" the levels that supposedly show what's normal and what is NOT normal, or healthy. >What this often translates to, is that by the time mainstream medicine diagnoses someone's thyroid being out of whack, THEIR THRYOID HAS ALREADY HIT ROCK BOTTOM....this is something you DON"T want. The lower that thryoid goes, the harder it is to bring it back in line. Whereas if you catch it earlier, its much easier to deal with. >For those who really want to check their own thryoids, put a pen/pad of paper by your bed, take your temperature every morning BEFORE you get out of bed. If you are using a digital thermomneter, ignore the beeps and keep it in your mouth under tongue, for 4 min. Do this for a week...and then average out your temperatures. Add them all up, and divide by the number of days you took your temp. Any temp UNDER 97.6 means the thyroid is OUT of balance. If it is OVER 99, this means the thryoid is OVER active, they call this hyPER thyroidsim. Under active is HYPO thryoidism. >Do NOT Rely on blood test...This is called the Barnes Basal Temperature Test and you can find it on line, by googling it. >Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons? >Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed, they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support. That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally work their way out of the body. >So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then add in the thyroid support. >Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair- lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the "word" you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping, wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few) >Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary, exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP? >This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN. >My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium, Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India (holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like >Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in many cases, the adrenals are also low. >In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried. Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and pushed to their limit. >Lizzie > > > > >To: [hidden email] >From: [hidden email] >Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700 >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >HI, > >I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better. > >Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time? > >http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong > >Kathy > >[hidden email] wrote: >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >Hi Lizzie: > >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an > >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements > >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms > >have been acute and severe!! > >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out... > >Sometimes, I continue with my activities. > >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking, heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed. > >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally? > >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number of other medical problems. > >My thyroid test came back "normal", my blood sugar level "normal" > >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the last six months show "normal"... > >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take? > >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes > >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate > >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage, > >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual. > >Thanks, > >Kookie > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Well, I ordered from Amazon, just cancelled, would take almost two weeks for delivery. Now looking for another faster supplier!! --- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: > > Yes, that is what I wrote; Jarrow use Kaneka Ubiqinol, but has much better absorption because it > is liposome based. Order from iherb and get through DHL, you have it in 2 days. But you can get it > so many places in the UK. > > From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> > >To: [hidden email] > >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:02 > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >  > > > > > >Is Jarrow using Kaneka Ubiquinol? > >Just read Kaneka is the best... > > > >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> > >> OK, then it seems Q10 is what you shouldàget asap, remember to get the reduced Kaneka Ubiquinol form. I tried > >> different brands, but find that QH from Jarrow have superior absorption and dont feel synthetic. > >> > >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 21:33 > >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > > >> > > >> > à> >> > > >> > > >> >WOW, this is amazing. > >> > > >> >I just read the symptoms of QO10 deficiency, and I have all of them!! > >> > > >> >http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=118 > >> > > >> >It all makes sense to me now. For a few years I had to eat large > >> >quantities of lamb to calm those palps. it worked - for a while. > >> >Lamb contains Q10!! I am allergic to fish, which contains higher. > >> > > >> >I tried L-Carnitine, and that helped, again, not sustainable. Then > >> >all amino acids from yellow split peas, and green peas, and Hemp. > >> >Didn't help much, high content of all amino acids! > >> > > >> >Am also low on folic acid and omega fatty acids, but allergic to > >> >fish, and flax seed oil does not convert well to DHA & EPA. > >> > > >> >Low on other nutrients due to restrictive diet for so long. > >> > > >> >I have little doubt that Q10 has a role to play in those palps > >> >and weird hypoglycemic attacks, cramps, bleeding gums > >> >and so forth. > >> > > >> >I will order the Jarrow formula. I read that Now is also good > >> >as well as Life Extension. I am worried about beeswax it contains!! > >> > > >> >I heard about other people saying that when they took Q10 it triggered > >> >palpitations. Would that be because the dose was too high? > >> > > >> >I started on a multi vits and minerals a few days ago.. > >> >Does not contain all necessary nutrients, nor does it contain > >> >Q10. In anycase, if I was low a few years ago, then... > >> > > >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than aÃâàday immediately > >> >> with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try liposomal Ubiquinol. > >> >> You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg. > >> >> It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine (bestÃâàfor heart is propionyl form) > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals brand > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride "oil", ubelieveable > >> >> absorption, remember to getÃâàan original Zechstein sourced product > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role. > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> Ãâà> >> >> > >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04 > >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Ãâà> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Good article, just read it. > >> >> > > >> >> >I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. > >> >> >Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, > >> >> >etc.. which I have. > >> >> > > >> >> >Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. > >> >> >It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was > >> >> >tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. > >> >> > > >> >> >May have to try this asap, and who knows. > >> >> > > >> >> >Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? > >> >> > > >> >> >Kookie > >> >> > > >> >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine > >> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >________________________________ > >> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 > >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing > >> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart > >> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? > >> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent > >> >> >> >and severe!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias > >> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point > >> >> >> >where the whole body trembles... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms > >> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take > >> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic > >> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, > >> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is > >> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and > >> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients > >> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal > >> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia > >> >> >> >etc... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes > >> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose > >> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Thanks > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Kookie > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Ooops, I thought it was Ubiquinol, aghhh --- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: > > This is Ubiquinone, not Ubiquinol. > > > From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> > >To: [hidden email] > >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:04 > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >  > > > > > >I ordered this one: > > > >http://www.jarrow.com/product.php?prodid=154 > > > >Will arrive between 20-24 August... will see if I can > >it sooner!! > > > >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> > >> OK, then it seems Q10 is what you shouldàget asap, remember to get the reduced Kaneka Ubiquinol form. I tried > >> different brands, but find that QH from Jarrow have superior absorption and dont feel synthetic. > >> > >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 21:33 > >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > > >> > > >> > à> >> > > >> > > >> >WOW, this is amazing. > >> > > >> >I just read the symptoms of QO10 deficiency, and I have all of them!! > >> > > >> >http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=118 > >> > > >> >It all makes sense to me now. For a few years I had to eat large > >> >quantities of lamb to calm those palps. it worked - for a while. > >> >Lamb contains Q10!! I am allergic to fish, which contains higher. > >> > > >> >I tried L-Carnitine, and that helped, again, not sustainable. Then > >> >all amino acids from yellow split peas, and green peas, and Hemp. > >> >Didn't help much, high content of all amino acids! > >> > > >> >Am also low on folic acid and omega fatty acids, but allergic to > >> >fish, and flax seed oil does not convert well to DHA & EPA. > >> > > >> >Low on other nutrients due to restrictive diet for so long. > >> > > >> >I have little doubt that Q10 has a role to play in those palps > >> >and weird hypoglycemic attacks, cramps, bleeding gums > >> >and so forth. > >> > > >> >I will order the Jarrow formula. I read that Now is also good > >> >as well as Life Extension. I am worried about beeswax it contains!! > >> > > >> >I heard about other people saying that when they took Q10 it triggered > >> >palpitations. Would that be because the dose was too high? > >> > > >> >I started on a multi vits and minerals a few days ago.. > >> >Does not contain all necessary nutrients, nor does it contain > >> >Q10. In anycase, if I was low a few years ago, then... > >> > > >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than aÃâàday immediately > >> >> with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try liposomal Ubiquinol. > >> >> You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg. > >> >> It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine (bestÃâàfor heart is propionyl form) > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals brand > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride "oil", ubelieveable > >> >> absorption, remember to getÃâàan original Zechstein sourced product > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role. > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> Ãâà> >> >> > >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04 > >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Ãâà> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Good article, just read it. > >> >> > > >> >> >I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. > >> >> >Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, > >> >> >etc.. which I have. > >> >> > > >> >> >Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. > >> >> >It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was > >> >> >tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. > >> >> > > >> >> >May have to try this asap, and who knows. > >> >> > > >> >> >Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? > >> >> > > >> >> >Kookie > >> >> > > >> >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine > >> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >________________________________ > >> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 > >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing > >> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart > >> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? > >> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent > >> >> >> >and severe!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias > >> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point > >> >> >> >where the whole body trembles... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms > >> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take > >> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic > >> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, > >> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is > >> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and > >> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients > >> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal > >> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia > >> >> >> >etc... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes > >> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose > >> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Thanks > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Kookie > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Lizzie:
Thanks for all the info. Totally agree with you about blood tests, not only do the health officials keep changing what constitutes "normal" but these tests are unreliable. Its just that mine, did show normal for a while now, the TSH was 2 or something like that. As for vits and nutrients, there are difficulties with serum, urine, and hair testing, as well as sweat or tissue samples. They all differ!! Other variables contribute to inaccuracies such as metabolizing, digestive issues, accumulation often localized, etc.. not so easy after all. I started eating fresh kelp, and will also pursue this avenue... Meanwhile, I will take the supps and the Q10 since I am deficient. Its very difficult to rely on symptoms alone, nutrional deficiencies are very serious, and often, symptoms are alike. Hum, many illnesses have the same symptoms, its takes a little time to work it, whilst keeping in mind, that there are often multi systems connected, and thus a target approach is not an option. For instance, being low on magnesium or Q10 can result in hypoglycemic attacks, and diabetics have been found to be low on Magnesium.. I had no idea about pouring iodine on the belly button, simply genial, lol. Will give it a whirl. More and more western open minded doctors reach the consensus that no matter what the label given to an illness/disease, it all stems from toxicity and malnutrition or imbalance in nutrients... How is your friend doing now?? wrote: > > > Hi Kooky and all, > Blood tests are notorious for being in accurate. Why? Because the medical system keeps "changing" the levels that supposedly show what's normal and what is NOT normal, or healthy. > What this often translates to, is that by the time mainstream medicine diagnoses someone's thyroid being out of whack, THEIR THRYOID HAS ALREADY HIT ROCK BOTTOM....this is something you DON"T want. The lower that thryoid goes, the harder it is to bring it back in line. Whereas if you catch it earlier, its much easier to deal with. > For those who really want to check their own thryoids, put a pen/pad of paper by your bed, take your temperature every morning BEFORE you get out of bed. If you are using a digital thermomneter, ignore the beeps and keep it in your mouth under tongue, for 4 min. Do this for a week...and then average out your temperatures. Add them all up, and divide by the number of days you took your temp. Any temp UNDER 97.6 means the thyroid is OUT of balance. If it is OVER 99, this means the thryoid is OVER active, they call this hyPER thyroidsim. Under active is HYPO thryoidism. > Do NOT Rely on blood test...This is called the Barnes Basal Temperature Test and you can find it on line, by googling it. > Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons? > Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed, they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support. That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally work their way out of the body. > So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then add in the thyroid support. > Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair- lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the "word" you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping, wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few) > Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary, exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP? > This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN. > My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium, Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India (holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like almonds, which is important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up, and a small amt before you go to bed. > Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in many cases, the adrenals are also low. > In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried. Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and pushed to their limit. > Lizzie > > > > > > > > > > To: [hidden email] > From: calicocat477@... > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > > HI, > > I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better. > > Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time? > > http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong > > Kathy > > furstc0404@... wrote: > Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > Hi Lizzie: > > Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an > > excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements > > in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms > > have been acute and severe!! > > I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out... > > Sometimes, I continue with my activities. > > I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking, heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed. > > The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally? > > It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number of other medical problems. > > My thyroid test came back "normal", my blood sugar level "normal" > > I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the last six months show "normal"... > > Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take? > > I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes > > can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate > > why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage, > > on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual. > > Thanks, > > Kookie > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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There is only Magnesium Chloride by Bobby's Healthy Shop are you sure it was Amazon UK? --- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: > > For magnesium, get topical/transdermal magnesium hydrochloride oil, it goes through your skin and is taken up by the cells immediately. > It is the most amqazing magnesium supplement I have ever tried, ubelievable. You can get it at Amazon UK under the BetterYou > brand and others, but only use a Zechstein origin product.  > > From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> > >To: [hidden email] > >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:22 > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >  > > > > > >Thanks, Kathy, its probably quite a few things, > >for instance, I read that we Vit E to process Q10, > >and I am low on that too. Guess will have to spend > >some time to read. > > > >Same for Magnesium, can also cause heart spasms > >and sudden cardiac death. > > > >I read on a health forum about people suddenly dying, > >and some were found to be very low on magnesium. > > > >One man wrote about his father, who had leg cramps > >and died a few months later, I often wonder how many > >of those people suffered from nutrient deficiency!! > > > >I hope that I won't react to the Q10.. SIGH, need to > >keep positive. > > > >--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote: > >> > >> Oh yes, > >> > >> I forgot to mention, but carnitine helps my heart symptoms some, too.àAnd CoQ10--yes, very much--my heart symptoms need B12, calcium AEP, and pantethine, tho, also, to go away, but it takes only about 30 minutes to an hour after I take them for all of the autonomic nervous system symptoms to go away. à> >> > >> DIane > >> > >> --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> > >> From: Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> > >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > >> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:06 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> à> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than aàday immediately > >> > >> with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try liposomal Ubiquinol. > >> > >> You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg. > >> > >> It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine (bestàfor heart is propionyl form) > >> > >> à> >> > >> Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals brand > >> > >> à> >> > >> Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride "oil", ubelieveable > >> > >> absorption, remember to getàan original Zechstein sourced product > >> > >> à> >> > >> Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role. > >> > >> à> >> > >> à> >> > >> > >> > >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> > >> >To: [hidden email] > >> > >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04 > >> > >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > à> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Good article, just read it. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. > >> > >> >Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, > >> > >> >etc.. which I have. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. > >> > >> >It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was > >> > >> >tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >May have to try this asap, and who knows. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Kookie > >> > >> > > >> > >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine > >> > >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> >________________________________ > >> > >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> > >> >> >To: [hidden email] > >> > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 > >> > >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Ãâà> >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing > >> > >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart > >> > >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? > >> > >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent > >> > >> >> >and severe!! > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias > >> > >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point > >> > >> >> >where the whole body trembles... > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms > >> > >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take > >> > >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic > >> > >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, > >> > >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is > >> > >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and > >> > >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients > >> > >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal > >> > >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia > >> > >> >> >etc... > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes > >> > >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose > >> > >> >> >for which there is no label yet!! > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Thanks > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Kookie > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Is this the one you bought: http://www.amazon.co.uk/BetterYou-Magnesium-Oil-Original-100ml/dp/B002VPDX4W/ref=pd_sim_sg_2 --- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: > > For magnesium, get topical/transdermal magnesium hydrochloride oil, it goes through your skin and is taken up by the cells immediately. > It is the most amqazing magnesium supplement I have ever tried, ubelievable. You can get it at Amazon UK under the BetterYou > brand and others, but only use a Zechstein origin product.  > > From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> > >To: [hidden email] > >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:22 > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >  > > > > > >Thanks, Kathy, its probably quite a few things, > >for instance, I read that we Vit E to process Q10, > >and I am low on that too. Guess will have to spend > >some time to read. > > > >Same for Magnesium, can also cause heart spasms > >and sudden cardiac death. > > > >I read on a health forum about people suddenly dying, > >and some were found to be very low on magnesium. > > > >One man wrote about his father, who had leg cramps > >and died a few months later, I often wonder how many > >of those people suffered from nutrient deficiency!! > > > >I hope that I won't react to the Q10.. SIGH, need to > >keep positive. > > > >--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote: > >> > >> Oh yes, > >> > >> I forgot to mention, but carnitine helps my heart symptoms some, too.àAnd CoQ10--yes, very much--my heart symptoms need B12, calcium AEP, and pantethine, tho, also, to go away, but it takes only about 30 minutes to an hour after I take them for all of the autonomic nervous system symptoms to go away. à> >> > >> DIane > >> > >> --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> > >> From: Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> > >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > >> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:06 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> à> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than aàday immediately > >> > >> with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try liposomal Ubiquinol. > >> > >> You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg. > >> > >> It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine (bestàfor heart is propionyl form) > >> > >> à> >> > >> Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals brand > >> > >> à> >> > >> Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride "oil", ubelieveable > >> > >> absorption, remember to getàan original Zechstein sourced product > >> > >> à> >> > >> Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role. > >> > >> à> >> > >> à> >> > >> > >> > >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> > >> >To: [hidden email] > >> > >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04 > >> > >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > à> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Good article, just read it. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. > >> > >> >Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, > >> > >> >etc.. which I have. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. > >> > >> >It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was > >> > >> >tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >May have to try this asap, and who knows. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Kookie > >> > >> > > >> > >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine > >> > >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> >________________________________ > >> > >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> > >> >> >To: [hidden email] > >> > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 > >> > >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Ãâà> >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing > >> > >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart > >> > >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? > >> > >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent > >> > >> >> >and severe!! > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias > >> > >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point > >> > >> >> >where the whole body trembles... > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms > >> > >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take > >> > >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic > >> > >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, > >> > >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is > >> > >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and > >> > >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients > >> > >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal > >> > >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia > >> > >> >> >etc... > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes > >> > >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose > >> > >> >> >for which there is no label yet!! > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Thanks > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Kookie > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=+magnesium+oil
From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:21 >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > > >There is only Magnesium Chloride by Bobby's Healthy Shop are >you sure it was Amazon UK? > >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: >> >> For magnesium, get topical/transdermal magnesium hydrochloride oil, it goes through your skin and is taken up by the cells immediately. >> It is the most amqazing magnesium supplement I have ever tried, ubelievable. You can get it at Amazon UK under the BetterYou >> brand and others, but only use a Zechstein origin product.  >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:22 >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> > >> > >> >  >> > >> > >> >Thanks, Kathy, its probably quite a few things, >> >for instance, I read that we Vit E to process Q10, >> >and I am low on that too. Guess will have to spend >> >some time to read. >> > >> >Same for Magnesium, can also cause heart spasms >> >and sudden cardiac death. >> > >> >I read on a health forum about people suddenly dying, >> >and some were found to be very low on magnesium. >> > >> >One man wrote about his father, who had leg cramps >> >and died a few months later, I often wonder how many >> >of those people suffered from nutrient deficiency!! >> > >> >I hope that I won't react to the Q10.. SIGH, need to >> >keep positive. >> > >> >--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Oh yes, >> >> >> >> I forgot to mention, but carnitine helps my heart symptoms some, too. And CoQ10--yes, very much--my heart symptoms need B12, calcium AEP, and pantethine, tho, also, to go away, but it takes only about 30 minutes to an hour after I take them for all of the autonomic nervous system symptoms to go away.  >> >> >> >> DIane >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> From: Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> >> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >> >> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:06 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than a day immediately >> >> >> >> with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try liposomal Ubiquinol. >> >> >> >> You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg. >> >> >> >> It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine (best for heart is propionyl form) >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals brand >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride "oil", ubelieveable >> >> >> >> absorption, remember to get an original Zechstein sourced product >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role. >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04 >> >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >  >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Good article, just read it. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. >> >> >> >> >Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, >> >> >> >> >etc.. which I have. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. >> >> >> >> >It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was >> >> >> >> >tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >May have to try this asap, and who knows. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Kookie >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine >> >> >> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing >> >> >> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart >> >> >> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? >> >> >> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent >> >> >> >> >> >and severe!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias >> >> >> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point >> >> >> >> >> >where the whole body trembles... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms >> >> >> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take >> >> >> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic >> >> >> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, >> >> >> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is >> >> >> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and >> >> >> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients >> >> >> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal >> >> >> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia >> >> >> >> >> >etc... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes >> >> >> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose >> >> >> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Thanks >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Kookie >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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had no idea Tulsi lowers cortisol mine is already low.. --- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: > > I have suffered from extreme adrenal fatigue, almost recuperated/rebuilt after 4 years. Get adrenals and thyroid tested. Read the James Wilson book on AF, I had personal help > from him as well. Please avoid Tulsi, it lowers cortisol. > > From: Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> > >To: [hidden email] > >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 0:03 > >Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >  > > > > > >Hi Kooky and all, > >Blood tests are notorious for being in accurate. Why? Because the medical system keeps "changing" the levels that supposedly show what's normal and what is NOT normal, or healthy. > >What this often translates to, is that by the time mainstream medicine diagnoses someone's thyroid being out of whack, THEIR THRYOID HAS ALREADY HIT ROCK BOTTOM....this is something you DON"T want. The lower that thryoid goes, the harder it is to bring it back in line. Whereas if you catch it earlier, its much easier to deal with. > >For those who really want to check their own thryoids, put a pen/pad of paper by your bed, take your temperature every morning BEFORE you get out of bed. If you are using a digital thermomneter, ignore the beeps and keep it in your mouth under tongue, for 4 min. Do this for a week...and then average out your temperatures. Add them all up, and divide by the number of days you took your temp. Any temp UNDER 97.6 means the thyroid is OUT of balance. If it is OVER 99, this means the thryoid is OVER active, they call this hyPER thyroidsim. Under active is HYPO thryoidism. > >Do NOT Rely on blood test...This is called the Barnes Basal Temperature Test and you can find it on line, by googling it. > >Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons? > >Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed, they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support. That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally work their way out of the body. > >So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then add in the thyroid support. > >Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair- lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the "word" you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping, wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few) > >Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary, exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP? > >This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN. > >My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium, Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India (holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like > almonds, which is important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up, and a small amt before you go to bed. > >Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in many cases, the adrenals are also low. > >In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried. Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and pushed to their limit. > >Lizzie > > > > > > > > > >To: [hidden email] > >From: calicocat477@... > >Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700 > >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > >HI, > > > >I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better. > > > >Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time? > > > >http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong > > > >Kathy > > > >furstc0404@... wrote: > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > >Hi Lizzie: > > > >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an > > > >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements > > > >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms > > > >have been acute and severe!! > > > >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out... > > > >Sometimes, I continue with my activities. > > > >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking, heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed. > > > >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally? > > > >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number of other medical problems. > > > >My thyroid test came back "normal", my blood sugar level "normal" > > > >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the last six months show "normal"... > > > >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take? > > > >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes > > > >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate > > > >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage, > > > >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Kookie > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Thanks, I ordered the Original Magnesium Joint spray... can't wait for it!! --- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=+magnesium+oil > > > From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> > >To: [hidden email] > >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:21 > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >There is only Magnesium Chloride by Bobby's Healthy Shop are > >you sure it was Amazon UK? > > > >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> > >> For magnesium, get topical/transdermal magnesium hydrochloride oil, it goes through your skin and is taken up by the cells immediately. > >> It is the most amqazing magnesium supplement I have ever tried, ubelievable. You can get it at Amazon UK under the BetterYou > >> brand and others, but only useàa Zechstein origin product. à> >> > >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:22 > >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> > > >> > > >> > à> >> > > >> > > >> >Thanks, Kathy, its probably quite a few things, > >> >for instance, I read that we Vit E to process Q10, > >> >and I am low on that too. Guess will have to spend > >> >some time to read. > >> > > >> >Same for Magnesium, can also cause heart spasms > >> >and sudden cardiac death. > >> > > >> >I read on a health forum about people suddenly dying, > >> >and some were found to be very low on magnesium. > >> > > >> >One man wrote about his father, who had leg cramps > >> >and died a few months later, I often wonder how many > >> >of those people suffered from nutrient deficiency!! > >> > > >> >I hope that I won't react to the Q10.. SIGH, need to > >> >keep positive. > >> > > >> >--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Oh yes, > >> >> > >> >> I forgot to mention, but carnitine helps my heart symptoms some, too.ÃâàAnd CoQ10--yes, very much--my heart symptoms need B12, calcium AEP, and pantethine, tho, also, to go away, but it takes only about 30 minutes to an hour after I take them for all of the autonomic nervous system symptoms to go away. Ãâà> >> >> > >> >> DIane > >> >> > >> >> --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> From: Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> > >> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > >> >> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:06 PM > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than aÃâàday immediately > >> >> > >> >> with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try liposomal Ubiquinol. > >> >> > >> >> You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg. > >> >> > >> >> It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine (bestÃâàfor heart is propionyl form) > >> >> > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> > >> >> Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals brand > >> >> > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> > >> >> Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride "oil", ubelieveable > >> >> > >> >> absorption, remember to getÃâàan original Zechstein sourced product > >> >> > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> > >> >> Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role. > >> >> > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> > >> >> Ãâà> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> >> > >> >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >> > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04 > >> >> > >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > Ãâà> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >Good article, just read it. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. > >> >> > >> >> >Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, > >> >> > >> >> >etc.. which I have. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. > >> >> > >> >> >It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was > >> >> > >> >> >tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >May have to try this asap, and who knows. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >Kookie > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine > >> >> > >> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >________________________________ > >> >> > >> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> > >> >> > >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >> > >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 > >> >> > >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing > >> >> > >> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart > >> >> > >> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? > >> >> > >> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent > >> >> > >> >> >> >and severe!! > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias > >> >> > >> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point > >> >> > >> >> >> >where the whole body trembles... > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms > >> >> > >> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take > >> >> > >> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic > >> >> > >> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, > >> >> > >> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is > >> >> > >> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and > >> >> > >> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients > >> >> > >> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal > >> >> > >> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia > >> >> > >> >> >> >etc... > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes > >> >> > >> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose > >> >> > >> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!! > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >Thanks > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >Kookie > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Every magnesium oil product that is undiluted Zechstein material is the same.
From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:24 >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >Is this the one you bought: > >http://www.amazon.co.uk/BetterYou-Magnesium-Oil-Original-100ml/dp/B002VPDX4W/ref=pd_sim_sg_2 > >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: >> >> For magnesium, get topical/transdermal magnesium hydrochloride oil, it goes through your skin and is taken up by the cells immediately. >> It is the most amqazing magnesium supplement I have ever tried, ubelievable. You can get it at Amazon UK under the BetterYou >> brand and others, but only use a Zechstein origin product.  >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@...> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 22:22 >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> > >> > >> >  >> > >> > >> >Thanks, Kathy, its probably quite a few things, >> >for instance, I read that we Vit E to process Q10, >> >and I am low on that too. Guess will have to spend >> >some time to read. >> > >> >Same for Magnesium, can also cause heart spasms >> >and sudden cardiac death. >> > >> >I read on a health forum about people suddenly dying, >> >and some were found to be very low on magnesium. >> > >> >One man wrote about his father, who had leg cramps >> >and died a few months later, I often wonder how many >> >of those people suffered from nutrient deficiency!! >> > >> >I hope that I won't react to the Q10.. SIGH, need to >> >keep positive. >> > >> >--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Oh yes, >> >> >> >> I forgot to mention, but carnitine helps my heart symptoms some, too. And CoQ10--yes, very much--my heart symptoms need B12, calcium AEP, and pantethine, tho, also, to go away, but it takes only about 30 minutes to an hour after I take them for all of the autonomic nervous system symptoms to go away.  >> >> >> >> DIane >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> From: Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> >> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >> >> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:06 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Both my girlfriend and I reduced our heart palpitations etc in less than a day immediately >> >> >> >> with the Ubiquinol form of Q10. Get either Jarrow QH from iherb.comor try liposomal Ubiquinol. >> >> >> >> You need to take 200mg for a week, then reduce to 100mg. >> >> >> >> It works wonders if the problem is deficiency of Q10. Creatine and carnitine (best for heart is propionyl form) >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> Best form of oral magnesium is the malate form, either NOW or Source Naturals brand >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> Best possible form of supplemental magnesium is topical magnesium hydrochloride "oil", ubelieveable >> >> >> >> absorption, remember to get an original Zechstein sourced product >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> Potassium and calcium deficiencies may also play a role. >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 20:04 >> >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >  >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Good article, just read it. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I had no idea that being low on Q10 could cause those symptoms. >> >> >> >> >Its difficult, other deficiencies can cause same symptoms, cramps, >> >> >> >> >etc.. which I have. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Have been on very limited diet since 2002 because of allergies. >> >> >> >> >It makes sense there are some deficiencies. A few years ago, I was >> >> >> >> >tested for Q10 level, it was lowish.. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >May have to try this asap, and who knows. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Which would be the best C0Q10 to try??? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Kookie >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You may want to look into supplementation to cure deficiency of Q10 Ubiquinol, creatine, carnosine >> >> >> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174003001815 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011, 15:53 >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [eSens] Heart spasms and arrythmias >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Has anyone heard of EMF/ES causing >> >> >> >> >> >acute electrical conductivity in the heart >> >> >> >> >> >leading to acute and severe spasms in the heart? >> >> >> >> >> >This is increasing, and becoming more frequent >> >> >> >> >> >and severe!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >There is a sudden increase in arrythmias >> >> >> >> >> >and heart feels as in spasm, to the point >> >> >> >> >> >where the whole body trembles... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >There have been some other weird symptoms >> >> >> >> >> >where there is a need for large consumption of lamb!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Two days ago, against my own resolution not to take >> >> >> >> >> >vits and supps, I started on multi adding B1 and Panthotenic >> >> >> >> >> >Acid, Kelp and a multi minerals. There has been lessening, >> >> >> >> >> >of those symptoms, but it continues. I am wondering if it is >> >> >> >> >> >possible for ES/EMF to cause damage to ion channels and >> >> >> >> >> >metabolizing pathways leading to inability to absorb nutrients >> >> >> >> >> >from foods? There are hypglycemic attacks, with normal >> >> >> >> >> >blood sugar level!! It does not exclude possibilities of hyperinsulnemia >> >> >> >> >> >etc... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I came across a paper which mentioned EMF exposure causing diabetes >> >> >> >> >> >and who knows what other metabolic process which we are unable to diagnose >> >> >> >> >> >for which there is no label yet!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Thanks >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Kookie >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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If you cortisol is too low, supplement with Isocort while you rebuild adrenals with nutrition and supplements. Can save you a lot of suffering. You can get Isocort from iherb.com
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/isocort/ From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 1:34 >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias > > > > > >had no idea Tulsi lowers cortisol >mine is already low.. > >--- In [hidden email], Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> wrote: >> >> I have suffered from extreme adrenal fatigue, almost recuperated/rebuilt after 4 years. Get adrenals and thyroid tested. Read the James Wilson book on AF, I had personal help >> from him as well. Please avoid Tulsi, it lowers cortisol. >> >> From: Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011, 0:03 >> >Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> > >> > >> >  >> > >> > >> >Hi Kooky and all, >> >Blood tests are notorious for being in accurate. Why? Because the medical system keeps "changing" the levels that supposedly show what's normal and what is NOT normal, or healthy. >> >What this often translates to, is that by the time mainstream medicine diagnoses someone's thyroid being out of whack, THEIR THRYOID HAS ALREADY HIT ROCK BOTTOM....this is something you DON"T want. The lower that thryoid goes, the harder it is to bring it back in line. Whereas if you catch it earlier, its much easier to deal with. >> >For those who really want to check their own thryoids, put a pen/pad of paper by your bed, take your temperature every morning BEFORE you get out of bed. If you are using a digital thermomneter, ignore the beeps and keep it in your mouth under tongue, for 4 min. Do this for a week...and then average out your temperatures. Add them all up, and divide by the number of days you took your temp. Any temp UNDER 97.6 means the thyroid is OUT of balance. If it is OVER 99, this means the thryoid is OVER active, they call this hyPER thyroidsim. Under active is HYPO thryoidism. >> >Do NOT Rely on blood test...This is called the Barnes Basal Temperature Test and you can find it on line, by googling it. >> >Oh I absolutely believe you that you are NOT having anxiety attacks. And because the thryoid does have a huge role in the heart, it could well BE the thryoid that is causing this...along with being exposed to high fields, you never asnswered that question. Is this happening under certain conditons? >> >Many people are unaware that both the thryoid and adrenals WORK together. So if the adrenals are out of whack, it is common for the thryoid to be out of balance, as well. And why this is important? Because those with adrenal isssues who try to take Armour, or ect....if the adrenals are out of balance, stressed, they don't make enough of the hormone to be able to USE the thyroid support. That means the body is not able to metabolize the thryoid help because the adrenals are so low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are responsible for USING the thryoid hormones. So what happens is , the thryoid hormones build up, you feel extremely crapppy, awful in some cases....until the high levels of thryoid that the body is simply not able to metabolize, finally work their way out of the body. >> >So many who try the thryoid and don't have a positive experience, actually need to support the adrenal glands. This is why I said first treat the adrenals, then add in the thyroid support. >> >Here are some common symptoms of an under active thryoid: brain fog, thin hair- lifeless no body, thin eyebrows, vision trouble, digestive issues, puffy under the eyes, bad periods, weight problems, bad memory, can't think of the "word" you want to use, walk out the door, forget your keys , can't find your car in the parking lot, can't remember what you did with whatever, trouble sleeping, wake up tired, weirded out dreams, thin nails that break all the time, often candida issues, dry skin...heart problems. (these are just a few) >> >Adrenal: bruised look under eyes, low energy, aches and pains, allergies, low physical body strenghth, very low patience, hypoglycemic, stand up too fast, get dizzy, feel better in bottom half of day, wake up want something sugary, exercise makes you more tired, if someone has a cold a mile away, you catch it...low immunity,irregular pulse and/or low pulse....if severe, weight decreases.....**These are just a few, notice how the symptoms OVER LAP? >> >This is because the thryoid and adrenals are like best friends. When one goes down, the other jumps in to help. If no one hears them screaming for help....THEY BOTH GO DOWN. >> >My friend took: for thyroid: 1) Iodine drops - Nascent Iodine. 2) Selenium, Thryoid Helper from www.wellnessresources.com 3) Magnesium Chloride Oil from Ancient MInerals --google Mark Sircus, Magnesium, Leptin and Obesity.....excellent article! Also the company that sells Ancient Minerals Magnesium, if you read Sircus's article, he has a coupon code, they are offering the Magnesium at a good price this week. And a good Vitamin B-complex. For adrenals, 1) raw glandulars 2) Holy Basil Tea or capsules from Organic India (holy basil tea helps to regulate the adrenals), 3) Turmeric capsules also from Organic India..**She is actually Diabetic, has been for years and was able to get off of her meds, using diet to control, once she started taking supplements to support both her thryoid and adrenals. She also deals with candida, and eats no wheat, no sugar, but still uses her cell phone/and cordless phone....unfortunately. She eats high quality protein like >> almonds, which is important for low adrenals..protein when you first get up, and a small amt before you go to bed. >> >Let me clarify....many people mistakenly believe they are having anxiety attacks, when the real culprit IS the thryoid, which controls the heart- and in many cases, the adrenals are also low. >> >In the beginning, she was VERY sensitive to almost everything she tried. Because her thryoid and adrenals were so low. The IODINE we found for her, that putting the drops right on the belly button, 2-3 drops, let it dry....enabled her to be able to tolerate the Iodine drops. Her metabolism was very messed up for along time. The adrenals regulate the body's blood sugar levels, by the time the body goes into full diabetes, those poor adrenal glands have been pushed and pushed to their limit. >> >Lizzie >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >To: [hidden email] >> >From: calicocat477@... >> >Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:06:02 -0700 >> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> > >> >HI, >> > >> >I hope you find the supplements to help you feel better. >> > >> >Can you explain this type of therapy when you have time? >> > >> >http://www.medicalqigong.org/resources.htm#medical_qigong >> > >> >Kathy >> > >> >furstc0404@... wrote: >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Heart spasms and arrythmias >> > >> >Hi Lizzie: >> > >> >Thanks for the info. Since receiving Medical Qi Gong from an >> > >> >excellent practitioner, there have been huge improvements >> > >> >in my symptoms, but for the last week or so, the heart spasms >> > >> >have been acute and severe!! >> > >> >I am NOT having anxiety attacks, in fact, I am calm when this happens. Not panicky, and I usually feel so ill when it happens, I just sit it out... >> > >> >Sometimes, I continue with my activities. >> > >> >I am wondering if your friends described what I did, that is heart shaking, heart spasms, irregular pulse, dizzy, but not panick, not stressed. >> > >> >The heart feels as if its vibrating as do muscles, literally? >> > >> >It it is, then quite rightly, it could by hypthyroidism, diabetes, or any number of other medical problems. >> > >> >My thyroid test came back "normal", my blood sugar level "normal" >> > >> >I was hypothryoid, unable to take Armour or Thyroxine. Recent tests for the last six months show "normal"... >> > >> >Why thyroid & adrenal support did she take? >> > >> >I read a published paper recently which mentions diabetes >> > >> >can be caused by EMF, in which case, I would postulate >> > >> >why not hypothyroidism??? It can cause so much damage, >> > >> >on all levels cascading in various symptoms for the individual. >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Kookie >> > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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