Gold Crowns

> mouth. Do they have to grind down the good teeth to support a bridge?
>
> BW
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> Steph
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>
>
> ________________________________
> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
> To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>

> >so
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> > I'm hoping it goes well.
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Steph
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: torch369 <torch369@>
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > unflexible. Any ideas on this?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure why a main molar would be a problem... I've got 2 Lava
> > > crowns, and I think they're both on main molars.
> > >
> > > I *do* know that dentists have their own personal biases on what
> > > materials should be used (I also saw a dentist once who preferred
> > > gold), but these dentists are NOT taking ES into account... just
> > > how long the crown might last or how strong it is.
> > >
> > > Marc
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> Hi steve
>
> I am in the same situation about the 2 root canaled teeth I have - side by side
>
> in my lower jaw - my dentist is going to refer me to another holistic dentist
> who specialises in RC teeth to do a cavitat scan which checks to see whether
> there are cavitations or pockets of toxins which can form at the base of root
> canal teeth which won't show up on an ordinary dental X ray - if you havethese
>
> they are leaking a constant source of toxin into your whole system which can be
>
> a cause for a lot of the ill health and problems that MCS and ES people have
>and
>
> the existence of the cavitations or even the possibility that something like
> that might exist is something that a lot of dentists aren't even trained in. I

> know for sure in my case that a lot of my problems started after root canal
> treatment and have got steadily worse. these are the last 2 teeth I will be
> having treated and I would imagine that they alone are the cause of maybe50%
>of
>
> my problems - and if I had to have them extracted I would gladly do so ifit
> meant that my health might improve even if it meant leaving a big gap with no
> teeth. Having said that I have had 3 amalgams removed so far on one side of my
>
> mouth and since then I have had no pain in my head on driving past cell towers

> etc and haven't had a migraine since then either - before removal it was
>getting
>
> to the stage where I was getting very debilitating migraines sometimes 2-3 a
> week. Hang in there. I'm going tomorrow for another amalgam removal treatment
>so
>
> I'm hoping it goes well.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Steph
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Sat, 14 August, 2010 21:19:20
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns
>
>  
> I'm going to ask him which other material he prefers, I don't feel good about
> putting the gold in. He has used lava Crowns before, I've also heard Diamond
> Crowns are also good.
> If he prefers another non metal crown for the large molar I will go with what
>he
>
> recommends. He is very careful about his work which I like. His temporarycrown
>
> is better than the real corwn he pulled off. The dentist who did the Lava
>crowns
>
> did a poor job and so did the lab.
> My holistic dentist says he uses a more expensive lab when he does lava crowns

> because they are more difficult to cut.
> What to do about the root canal tooth is another issue. I wish they had a
>better
>
> option out there to replace it.
> Steve
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> >
> > > He didn't think Lava would be good for the main molar because it's so
> > > unflexible. Any ideas on this?
> >
> > I'm not sure why a main molar would be a problem... I've got 2 Lava
> > crowns, and I think they're both on main molars.
> >
> > I *do* know that dentists have their own personal biases on what
> > materials should be used (I also saw a dentist once who preferred
> > gold), but these dentists are NOT taking ES into account... just
> > how long the crown might last or how strong it is.
> >
> > Marc
> >
>
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> mouth. Do they have to grind down the good teeth to support a bridge?
>
> BW
>
> Steph
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
> To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>

> >so
> >
> > I'm hoping it goes well.
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Steph
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: torch369 <torch369@>
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > unflexible. Any ideas on this?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure why a main molar would be a problem... I've got 2 Lava
> > > crowns, and I think they're both on main molars.
> > >
> > > I *do* know that dentists have their own personal biases on what
> > > materials should be used (I also saw a dentist once who preferred
> > > gold), but these dentists are NOT taking ES into account... just
> > > how long the crown might last or how strong it is.
> > >
> > > Marc
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> her and am sure that it helped her to make some improvements. It gives mea lot
>
> of hope to know this and to have this information about Dr Ahearne so many
> thanks for the reply. Hope Sue continues to do well.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Steph
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Mon, 23 August, 2010 2:13:29
> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns / Cavitat scans
>
>  
> Hi Stephanie
>
> My bridge is a single tooth with a metal strip along the back. It is a
> central incisor so is bonded to an incisor on either side. torch369's point
> that it may be different for molars seems reasonable. I'm not ES so the
> metal hasn't caused me any problems, but I guess it might be awkward for
> some.
>
> Yes, it was John Ahearne in Poole that we went to, and we found him most
> helpful and very competent - prepared to think through the best treatment
> for the individual patient. The cavity was actually where Sue had already
> had a wisdom tooth extracted a couple of years earlier - the wound had not
> healed properly. (All 4 wisdom teeth had been taken out simultaneously in
> hospital, but only one site had felt troublesome afterwards). He cleaned it
> out very thoroughly and Sue's health did improve somewhat after that,
> probably because a source of bacterial infection had been removed. As
> mentioned, the full cavitat scan a year or two later showed that the wound
> had now healed properly and sealed up, and confirmed the other 3 sites were
> OK. She didn't need any further teeth extracted, nor any additional mouth
> surgery.
>
> Best wishes, Ian
>
> _____
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Stephanie Smith
> Sent: 19 August 2010 13:39
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns / Cavitat scans
>
> Hi Ian
>
> Thank you very much for this post - I too thought that was how a bridge
> could be
> fitted - without the need to grind down nearby healthy teeth. Can I ask does
>
> your bridge have metal in it or was it possible to do that without uding
> metal?
> I am thinking though that perhaps for stability reasons and where there
> might be
> a bigger gap than one tooth involved it might be necessary to use the crown
> method of bridging in case attaching it to neighbouring teeth might not be
> strong enough. This is something I will have to look at in more detail and
> wich
> that I had gone into it further with my holistic dentist at the outset. Iam
>
> posting from the UK and am wondering, out of interest, whether Sue went to
> John
> Ahearne in Poole perhaps - that is the guy my holistic dentist is going to
> refer
> me to and I was just wondering if it was the same one . When he did the
> biopsy
> did this mean that Sue was able to keep her tooth and not have to have it
> extracted?
> .
> Best wishes
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...
> <mailto:ianandsue.kemp%40ukgateway.net> >
> To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 23:57:35
> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns / Cavitat scans
>
> Hi,
> The reason your dentist didn't suggest the cavitat scan was maybe becauseit
> is a very rare technique and very few dentists (certainly in the UK) have
> the machine. It is not "mainstream" and therefore over here is done
> privately, at considerable expense.
>
> We went to an excellent holistic dentist and in view of Sue's ES he felt it
> unwise to do a cavitat scan although he had the equipment (it uses
> ultrasound and we feared it could worsen Sue's ES-related tinnitus).
> Instead he did an exploratory biopsy on the suspect area and found a big
> cavity underneath. He sorted this out and Sue's health did improve after
> that, although it could also have been partly due to other treatment done
> around the same time. A couple of years later when Sue was doing better we
> went back and did the full cavitat scan, which showed the gap had fully
> healed and there were no cavities around.
>
> A bit puzzled about the bridge - I have one where I had a front tooth
> knocked out, and only the gap has a crown (or false tooth) in it. The two
> teeth on either side were left intact and the bridge is bonded on to the
> rear of both of them. So I didn't think healthy teeth needed to be ground
> down and crowned.
>
> Ian
>
> _____
>
> From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
> Of
> torch369
> Sent: 18 August 2010 16:13
> To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns
>
> Hi Steph,
> I'm surprised my dentist didn't mention the cavitat scan. He did send me to
> an endodontist that he trusts and he x rayed the area and found no infection
> anywhere near the area or in the bone. The x ray also showed 2 blobs of
> mercury that were used to seal off an apicoectomy I had done to that root
> canal! Real nice having mercury inside my gums. Pulling the tooth would be
> the only way to get it out.
> As for the bridge, they do have to grind down the teeth around it. basically
> they use the surrounding teeth to hold up a false tooth in the middle. The
> only way to do this is to crown the surrounding teeth.
> That's the issue-there are no great answers to what to do about the hole.
> That's what is keeping me from extracting that tooth right away.
> Steve
>
> --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , Stephanie
> Smith <reader41@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Steve
> >
> > That is where the cavistat scan would come in - an ordinary X ray will
> only show
> > so much but has its limitations. The cavitat scan is able to see much more
> and
> > can show if there are little pockets of infection beneath the root canal
> called
> > cavitations. If these are there then they are leaking toxins all through
> your
> > system - I have stuff on this which I will look up and post to you.
> >
> >
> > From what you told me I think I have just gone about everything in the
> wrong way
> > - I got 2 teeth filled with replacement fillings yesterday but they are
> the 2
> > teeth which are either side of the 2 root canaled teeth (one is
> coveredwith a
> > rubbish crown)Â - which means if I have to have the 2 root canals
> extracted then
> > I will have to get those 2 teeth I got filled yesterday ground down to
> take a
> > bridge. I didn't realise that. If I had known that I would have got the2
> root
> > canals looked at first [need to see another dentist for the cavitat scan
> for
> > that]. I'm not happy about root canal at all - a root canal tooth is a
> dead
> > tooth and you don't want to have something dead inside your body. Plus
> from what
> > I have read it is virtually impossible for a dentist - no matter how
> competent
> > to completely clean out and sterilise all of the myriad little chambers
> [aside
> > from the main roots which is what you think of when you think of a root
> canal. I
> > think my dentist is operating on the premise that if the root canals are
> sound
> > [highly doubtful I think] she will just replace the fillings in them and
> do a
> > new crown. I am coming from the perspective of extracting them and either
> > leaving a big gap or going for an implant, but I don't think I want them
> in my
> > mouth. Do they have to grind down the good teeth to support a bridge?
> >
> > BW
> >
> > Steph
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: torch369 <torch369@>
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Mon, 16 August, 2010 15:49:00
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns
> >
> > Â
> > Hi Steph,
> > Keep us posted on what you find and what you do. My root canal tooth isa
> alrge
> > molar on top and I wouldn't want to leave the space empty. I have 2 teeth
> on
> > either side for a bridge but that would mean cutting down 2 good teeth and
> what
> > happens if they fail?
> > I have a mercury filling next to that root canal tooth and I am going to
> have it
> > replaced but i was waiting until I decided whether to have the tooth
> pulled
> > because if i was then putting another filling in would be a waste of money
> if it
> > was going to be prepped for a supporting crown.
> > I had the area x rayed and there is no sign of infection or bone loss but
> of
> > course it can't see under the crown that's over the root canal tooth.
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , Stephanie
> Smith <reader41@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi steve
> > >
> > > I am in the same situation about the 2 root canaled teeth I have - side
> by side
> > >
> > > in my lower jaw - my dentist is going to refer me to another holistic
> dentist
> > > who specialises in RC teeth to do a cavitat scan which checks to see
> whether
> > > there are cavitations or pockets of toxins which can form at the baseof
> root
> > > canal teeth which won't show up on an ordinary dental X ray - if you
> have these
> > >
> > > they are leaking a constant source of toxin into your whole system which
> can be
> > >
> > > a cause for a lot of the ill health and problems that MCS and ES people
> have
> > >and
> > >
> > > the existence of the cavitations or even the possibility that something
> like
> > > that might exist is something that a lot of dentists aren't even trained
> in. I
> >
> > > know for sure in my case that a lot of my problems started after root
> canal
> > > treatment and have got steadily worse. these are the last 2 teeth I will
> be
> > > having treated and I would imagine that they alone are the cause of
> maybe 50%
> > >of
> > >
> > > my problems - and if I had to have them extracted I would gladly do so
> if it
> > > meant that my health might improve even if it meant leaving a big gap
> with no
> > > teeth. Having said that I have had 3 amalgams removed so far on one
> side of my
> > >
> > > mouth and since then I have had no pain in my head on driving past cell
> towers
> >
> > > etc and haven't had a migraine since then either - before removal it was
>
> > >getting
> > >
> > > to the stage where I was getting very debilitating migraines sometimes
> 2-3 a
> > > week. Hang in there. I'm going tomorrow for another amalgam removal
> treatment
> > >so
> > >
> > > I'm hoping it goes well.
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > >
> > > Steph
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: torch369 <torch369@>
> > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sat, 14 August, 2010 21:19:20
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > > I'm going to ask him which other material he prefers, I don't feel good
> about
> > > putting the gold in. He has used lava Crowns before, I've also heard
> Diamond
> > > Crowns are also good.
> > > If he prefers another non metal crown for the large molar I will go with
> what
> > >he
> > >
> > > recommends. He is very careful about his work which I like. His
> temporary crown
> > >
> > > is better than the real corwn he pulled off. The dentist who did the
> Lava
> > >crowns
> > >
> > > did a poor job and so did the lab.
> > > My holistic dentist says he uses a more expensive lab when he does lava
> crowns
> >
> > > because they are more difficult to cut.
> > > What to do about the root canal tooth is another issue. I wish they had
> a
> > >better
> > >
> > > option out there to replace it.
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "Marc
> Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > He didn't think Lava would be good for the main molar because it's
> so
> > > > > unflexible. Any ideas on this?
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure why a main molar would be a problem... I've got 2 Lava
> > > > crowns, and I think they're both on main molars.
> > > >
> > > > I *do* know that dentists have their own personal biases on what
> > > > materials should be used (I also saw a dentist once who preferred
> > > > gold), but these dentists are NOT taking ES into account... just
> > > > how long the crown might last or how strong it is.
> > > >
> > > > Marc
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> mouth. Do they have to grind down the good teeth to support a bridge?
>
> BW
>
> Steph
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
> To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>

> >so
> >
> > I'm hoping it goes well.
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Steph
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: torch369 <torch369@>
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > unflexible. Any ideas on this?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure why a main molar would be a problem... I've got 2 Lava
> > > crowns, and I think they're both on main molars.
> > >
> > > I *do* know that dentists have their own personal biases on what
> > > materials should be used (I also saw a dentist once who preferred
> > > gold), but these dentists are NOT taking ES into account... just
> > > how long the crown might last or how strong it is.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> >
> >
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>
> Hi Steve
>
> I don't think that is the problem in my case - I think it is definitely related
> in my case to the 2 RC filled teeth which have a lot of amalgam in them and one
> has a very poorly fitted crown on top - I'd say that they are the main cause of
> most of my health problems and it will be interesting to see what improvements I
> make when I finally get them dealth with - unfortunately they will be thelast
> teeth to be worked on so I am going to have to put up with them for some time to
> come. I had read that warm salt water was good - also the juice of a lemon in a
> cup of warm water sort of sluiced around the mouth is also supposed to reduce
> gum swelling. I have been eating a LOAD of garlic - mostly raw in salad
> dressings and believe that it might also have helped me with any infection I
> might have got which has eased considerably.
>
>
> best wishes
>
> Steph
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Fri, 27 August, 2010 18:00:41
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns / Cavitat scans
>
>  
> I just had an amalgam removed next to my root canal tooth and I am getting gum
> sensitivity also behind that tooth on the gum line. I think it may be dueto the
> clamp used to keep the dam in place. I think it irritated the gum there. At
> least that's what I hope it is. I am rinsing with warm salt water and hopefully
> that will heal the tenderness.
>
> --- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ian
> >
> > Many thanks for the reply on this. It would seem that different approaches are
>
> > used for incisors and molars when it comes to bridges and something stronger
> >may
> >
> > be needed to hold a bridge in place for a molar.
> >
> > Thanks so much for the information about John Ahearne. My dentist is going to
> > arrange a referral for me to see him and speaks very highly of his work. I had
>
> > some amalgam removed either side of 2 root canal filled teeth last weekand
> >have
> >
> > had a lot of problems since and I don't think it is the new fillings which are
>
> > the problem but rather that the problem is coming from the 2 root canals which
>
> > have always felt tender and twingy at the base of the root. Right now it just
> > feels like they are gassing off metals in a horrible way and the soonerI can
> > get them looked at the better. It is highly likely (I think - in my case the 2
>
> > RCs were done by very a incompetent dentist) that I could have a cavitation at
>
> > the base of them, similar to what Sue had after her wisdom tooth extraction. I
>
> > can imagine that the procedure Sue underwent to deal with that was verypainful
> >
> > at the time, but ultimately beneficial not to have that continuing source of
> > infection leaching into her system like that. I am glad it was successful for
>
> > her and am sure that it helped her to make some improvements. It gives me a lot
> >
> > of hope to know this and to have this information about Dr Ahearne so many
> > thanks for the reply. Hope Sue continues to do well.
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Steph
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Mon, 23 August, 2010 2:13:29
> > Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns / Cavitat scans
> >
> >  
> > Hi Stephanie
> >
> > My bridge is a single tooth with a metal strip along the back. It is a
> > central incisor so is bonded to an incisor on either side. torch369's point
> > that it may be different for molars seems reasonable. I'm not ES so the
> > metal hasn't caused me any problems, but I guess it might be awkward for
> > some.
> >
> > Yes, it was John Ahearne in Poole that we went to, and we found him most
> > helpful and very competent - prepared to think through the best treatment
> > for the individual patient. The cavity was actually where Sue had already
> > had a wisdom tooth extracted a couple of years earlier - the wound had not
> > healed properly. (All 4 wisdom teeth had been taken out simultaneously in
> > hospital, but only one site had felt troublesome afterwards). He cleaned it
> > out very thoroughly and Sue's health did improve somewhat after that,
> > probably because a source of bacterial infection had been removed. As
> > mentioned, the full cavitat scan a year or two later showed that the wound
> > had now healed properly and sealed up, and confirmed the other 3 sites were
> > OK. She didn't need any further teeth extracted, nor any additional mouth
> > surgery.
> >
> > Best wishes, Ian
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> > Stephanie Smith
> > Sent: 19 August 2010 13:39
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns / Cavitat scans
> >
> > Hi Ian
> >
> > Thank you very much for this post - I too thought that was how a bridge
> > could be
> > fitted - without the need to grind down nearby healthy teeth. Can I askdoes
> >
> > your bridge have metal in it or was it possible to do that without uding
> > metal?
> > I am thinking though that perhaps for stability reasons and where there
> > might be
> > a bigger gap than one tooth involved it might be necessary to use the crown
> > method of bridging in case attaching it to neighbouring teeth might notbe
> > strong enough. This is something I will have to look at in more detail and
> > wich
> > that I had gone into it further with my holistic dentist at the outset.I am
> >
> > posting from the UK and am wondering, out of interest, whether Sue wentto
> > John
> > Ahearne in Poole perhaps - that is the guy my holistic dentist is goingto
> > refer
> > me to and I was just wondering if it was the same one . When he did the
> > biopsy
> > did this mean that Sue was able to keep her tooth and not have to have it
> > extracted?
> > .
> > Best wishes
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@
> > <mailto:ianandsue.kemp%40ukgateway.net> >
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 23:57:35
> > Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns / Cavitat scans
> >
> > Hi,
> > The reason your dentist didn't suggest the cavitat scan was maybe because it
> > is a very rare technique and very few dentists (certainly in the UK) have
> > the machine. It is not "mainstream" and therefore over here is done
> > privately, at considerable expense.
> >
> > We went to an excellent holistic dentist and in view of Sue's ES he felt it
> > unwise to do a cavitat scan although he had the equipment (it uses
> > ultrasound and we feared it could worsen Sue's ES-related tinnitus).
> > Instead he did an exploratory biopsy on the suspect area and found a big
> > cavity underneath. He sorted this out and Sue's health did improve after
> > that, although it could also have been partly due to other treatment done
> > around the same time. A couple of years later when Sue was doing betterwe
> > went back and did the full cavitat scan, which showed the gap had fully
> > healed and there were no cavities around.
> >
> > A bit puzzled about the bridge - I have one where I had a front tooth
> > knocked out, and only the gap has a crown (or false tooth) in it. The two
> > teeth on either side were left intact and the bridge is bonded on to the
> > rear of both of them. So I didn't think healthy teeth needed to be ground
> > down and crowned.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
> > Of
> > torch369
> > Sent: 18 August 2010 16:13
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns
> >
> > Hi Steph,
> > I'm surprised my dentist didn't mention the cavitat scan. He did send me to
> > an endodontist that he trusts and he x rayed the area and found no infection
> > anywhere near the area or in the bone. The x ray also showed 2 blobs of
> > mercury that were used to seal off an apicoectomy I had done to that root
> > canal! Real nice having mercury inside my gums. Pulling the tooth wouldbe
> > the only way to get it out.
> > As for the bridge, they do have to grind down the teeth around it. basically
> > they use the surrounding teeth to hold up a false tooth in the middle. The
> > only way to do this is to crown the surrounding teeth.
> > That's the issue-there are no great answers to what to do about the hole.
> > That's what is keeping me from extracting that tooth right away.
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , Stephanie
> > Smith <reader41@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Steve
> > >
> > > That is where the cavistat scan would come in - an ordinary X ray will
> > only show
> > > so much but has its limitations. The cavitat scan is able to see muchmore
> > and
> > > can show if there are little pockets of infection beneath the root canal
> > called
> > > cavitations. If these are there then they are leaking toxins all through
> > your
> > > system - I have stuff on this which I will look up and post to you.
> > >
> > >
> > > From what you told me I think I have just gone about everything in the
> > wrong way
> > > - I got 2 teeth filled with replacement fillings yesterday but they are
> > the 2
> > > teeth which are either side of the 2 root canaled teeth (one is
> > coveredwith a
> > > rubbish crown)Â - which means if I have to have the 2 root canals
> > extracted then
> > > I will have to get those 2 teeth I got filled yesterday ground down to
> > take a
> > > bridge. I didn't realise that. If I had known that I would have got the 2
> > root
> > > canals looked at first [need to see another dentist for the cavitat scan
> > for
> > > that]. I'm not happy about root canal at all - a root canal tooth is a
> > dead
> > > tooth and you don't want to have something dead inside your body. Plus
> > from what
> > > I have read it is virtually impossible for a dentist - no matter how
> > competent
> > > to completely clean out and sterilise all of the myriad little chambers
> > [aside
> > > from the main roots which is what you think of when you think of a root
> > canal. I
> > > think my dentist is operating on the premise that if the root canals are
> > sound
> > > [highly doubtful I think] she will just replace the fillings in them and
> > do a
> > > new crown. I am coming from the perspective of extracting them and either
> > > leaving a big gap or going for an implant, but I don'tthink I want them
> > in my
> > > mouth. Do they have to grind down the good teeth to support a bridge?
> > >
> > > BW
> > >
> > > Steph
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: torch369 <torch369@>
> > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Mon, 16 August, 2010 15:49:00
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Hi Steph,
> > > Keep us posted on what you find and what you do. My root canal tooth is a
> > alrge
> > > molar on top and I wouldn't want to leave the space empty. I have 2 teeth
> > on
> > > either side for a bridge but that would mean cutting down 2 good teeth and
> > what
> > > happens if they fail?
> > > I have a mercury filling next to that root canal tooth and I am goingto
> > have it
> > > replaced but i was waiting until I decided whether to have the tooth
> > pulled
> > > because if i was then putting another filling in would be a waste of money
> > if it
> > > was going to be prepped for a supporting crown.
> > > I had the area x rayed and there is no sign of infection or bone lossbut
> > of
> > > course it can't see under the crown that's over the root canal tooth.
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , Stephanie
> > Smith <reader41@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi steve
> > > >
> > > > I am in the same situation about the 2 root canaled teeth I have - side
> > by side
> > > >
> > > > in my lower jaw - my dentist is going to refer me to another holistic
> > dentist
> > > > who specialises in RC teeth to do a cavitat scan which checks to see
> > whether
> > > > there are cavitations or pockets of toxins which can form at the base of
> > root
> > > > canal teeth which won't show up on an ordinary dental X ray - if you
> > have these
> > > >
> > > > they are leaking a constant source of toxin into your whole system which
> > can be
> > > >
> > > > a cause for a lot of the ill health and problems that MCS and ES people
> > have
> > > >and
> > > >
> > > > the existence of the cavitations or even the possibility that something
> > like
> > > > that might exist is something that a lot of dentists aren't even trained
> > in. I
> > >
> > > > know for sure in my case that a lot of my problems started after root
> > canal
> > > > treatment and have got steadily worse. these are the last 2 teeth Iwill
> > be
> > > > having treated and I would imagine that they alone are the cause of
> > maybe 50%
> > > >of
> > > >
> > > > my problems - and if I had to have them extracted I would gladly doso
> > if it
> > > > meant that my health might improve even if it meant leaving a big gap
> > with no
> > > > teeth.ÃÆ'‚Â Having said that I have had 3 amalgams removed so far on one
> > side of my
> > > >
> > > > mouth and since then I have had no pain in my head on driving past cell
> > towers
> > >
> > > > etc and haven't had a migraine since then either - before removal it was
> >
> > > >getting
> > > >
> > > > to the stage where I was getting very debilitating migraines sometimes
> > 2-3 a
> > > > week. Hang in there. I'm going tomorrow for another amalgam removal
> > treatment
> > > >so
> > > >
> > > > I'm hoping it goes well.
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes
> > > >
> > > > Steph
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: torch369 <torch369@>
> > > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Sat, 14 August, 2010 21:19:20
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > I'm going to ask him which other material he prefers, I don't feel good
> > about
> > > > putting the gold in. He has used lava Crowns before, I've also heard
> > Diamond
> > > > Crowns are also good.
> > > > If he prefers another non metal crown for the large molar I will gowith
> > what
> > > >he
> > > >
> > > > recommends. He is very careful about his work which I like. His
> > temporary crown
> > > >
> > > > is better than the real corwn he pulled off. The dentist who did the
> > Lava
> > > >crowns
> > > >
> > > > did a poor job and so did the lab.
> > > > My holistic dentist says he uses a more expensive lab when he does lava
> > crowns
> > >
> > > > because they are more difficult to cut.
> > > > What to do about the root canal tooth is another issue. I wish theyhad
> > a
> > > >better
> > > >
> > > > option out there to replace it.
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "Marc
> > Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > He didn't think Lava would be good for the main molar because it's
> > so
> > > > > > unflexible. Any ideas on this?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure why a main molar would be a problem... I've got 2 Lava
> > > > > crowns, and I think they're both on main molars.
> > > > >
> > > > > I *do* know that dentists have their own personal biases on what
> > > > > materials should be used (I also saw a dentist once who preferred
> > > > > gold), but these dentists are NOT taking ES into account... just
> > > > > how long the crown might last or how strong it is.
> > > > >
> > > > > Marc
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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>
> Hi Steve
>
> I don't think that is the problem in my case - I think it is definitely related
> in my case to the 2 RC filled teeth which have a lot of amalgam in them and one
> has a very poorly fitted crown on top - I'd say that they are the main cause of
> most of my health problems and it will be interesting to see what improvements I
> make when I finally get them dealth with - unfortunately they will be thelast
> teeth to be worked on so I am going to have to put up with them for some time to
> come. I had read that warm salt water was good - also the juice of a lemon in a
> cup of warm water sort of sluiced around the mouth is also supposed to reduce
> gum swelling. I have been eating a LOAD of garlic - mostly raw in salad
> dressings and believe that it might also have helped me with any infection I
> might have got which has eased considerably.
>
>
> best wishes
>
> Steph
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Fri, 27 August, 2010 18:00:41
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns / Cavitat scans
>
>  
> I just had an amalgam removed next to my root canal tooth and I am getting gum
> sensitivity also behind that tooth on the gum line. I think it may be dueto the
> clamp used to keep the dam in place. I think it irritated the gum there. At
> least that's what I hope it is. I am rinsing with warm salt water and hopefully
> that will heal the tenderness.
>
> --- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ian
> >
> > Many thanks for the reply on this. It would seem that different approaches are
>
> > used for incisors and molars when it comes to bridges and something stronger
> >may
> >
> > be needed to hold a bridge in place for a molar.
> >
> > Thanks so much for the information about John Ahearne. My dentist is going to
> > arrange a referral for me to see him and speaks very highly of his work. I had
>
> > some amalgam removed either side of 2 root canal filled teeth last weekand
> >have
> >
> > had a lot of problems since and I don't think it is the new fillings which are
>
> > the problem but rather that the problem is coming from the 2 root canals which
>
> > have always felt tender and twingy at the base of the root. Right now it just
> > feels like they are gassing off metals in a horrible way and the soonerI can
> > get them looked at the better. It is highly likely (I think - in my case the 2
>
> > RCs were done by very a incompetent dentist) that I could have a cavitation at
>
> > the base of them, similar to what Sue had after her wisdom tooth extraction. I
>
> > can imagine that the procedure Sue underwent to deal with that was verypainful
> >
> > at the time, but ultimately beneficial not to have that continuing source of
> > infection leaching into her system like that. I am glad it was successful for
>
> > her and am sure that it helped her to make some improvements. It gives me a lot
> >
> > of hope to know this and to have this information about Dr Ahearne so many
> > thanks for the reply. Hope Sue continues to do well.
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Steph
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Mon, 23 August, 2010 2:13:29
> > Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns / Cavitat scans
> >
> >  
> > Hi Stephanie
> >
> > My bridge is a single tooth with a metal strip along the back. It is a
> > central incisor so is bonded to an incisor on either side. torch369's point
> > that it may be different for molars seems reasonable. I'm not ES so the
> > metal hasn't caused me any problems, but I guess it might be awkward for
> > some.
> >
> > Yes, it was John Ahearne in Poole that we went to, and we found him most
> > helpful and very competent - prepared to think through the best treatment
> > for the individual patient. The cavity was actually where Sue had already
> > had a wisdom tooth extracted a couple of years earlier - the wound had not
> > healed properly. (All 4 wisdom teeth had been taken out simultaneously in
> > hospital, but only one site had felt troublesome afterwards). He cleaned it
> > out very thoroughly and Sue's health did improve somewhat after that,
> > probably because a source of bacterial infection had been removed. As
> > mentioned, the full cavitat scan a year or two later showed that the wound
> > had now healed properly and sealed up, and confirmed the other 3 sites were
> > OK. She didn't need any further teeth extracted, nor any additional mouth
> > surgery.
> >
> > Best wishes, Ian
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> > Stephanie Smith
> > Sent: 19 August 2010 13:39
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns / Cavitat scans
> >
> > Hi Ian
> >
> > Thank you very much for this post - I too thought that was how a bridge
> > could be
> > fitted - without the need to grind down nearby healthy teeth. Can I askdoes
> >
> > your bridge have metal in it or was it possible to do that without uding
> > metal?
> > I am thinking though that perhaps for stability reasons and where there
> > might be
> > a bigger gap than one tooth involved it might be necessary to use the crown
> > method of bridging in case attaching it to neighbouring teeth might notbe
> > strong enough. This is something I will have to look at in more detail and
> > wich
> > that I had gone into it further with my holistic dentist at the outset.I am
> >
> > posting from the UK and am wondering, out of interest, whether Sue wentto
> > John
> > Ahearne in Poole perhaps - that is the guy my holistic dentist is goingto
> > refer
> > me to and I was just wondering if it was the same one . When he did the
> > biopsy
> > did this mean that Sue was able to keep her tooth and not have to have it
> > extracted?
> > .
> > Best wishes
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@
> > <mailto:ianandsue.kemp%40ukgateway.net> >
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 23:57:35
> > Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns / Cavitat scans
> >
> > Hi,
> > The reason your dentist didn't suggest the cavitat scan was maybe because it
> > is a very rare technique and very few dentists (certainly in the UK) have
> > the machine. It is not "mainstream" and therefore over here is done
> > privately, at considerable expense.
> >
> > We went to an excellent holistic dentist and in view of Sue's ES he felt it
> > unwise to do a cavitat scan although he had the equipment (it uses
> > ultrasound and we feared it could worsen Sue's ES-related tinnitus).
> > Instead he did an exploratory biopsy on the suspect area and found a big
> > cavity underneath. He sorted this out and Sue's health did improve after
> > that, although it could also have been partly due to other treatment done
> > around the same time. A couple of years later when Sue was doing betterwe
> > went back and did the full cavitat scan, which showed the gap had fully
> > healed and there were no cavities around.
> >
> > A bit puzzled about the bridge - I have one where I had a front tooth
> > knocked out, and only the gap has a crown (or false tooth) in it. The two
> > teeth on either side were left intact and the bridge is bonded on to the
> > rear of both of them. So I didn't think healthy teeth needed to be ground
> > down and crowned.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
> > Of
> > torch369
> > Sent: 18 August 2010 16:13
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns
> >
> > Hi Steph,
> > I'm surprised my dentist didn't mention the cavitat scan. He did send me to
> > an endodontist that he trusts and he x rayed the area and found no infection
> > anywhere near the area or in the bone. The x ray also showed 2 blobs of
> > mercury that were used to seal off an apicoectomy I had done to that root
> > canal! Real nice having mercury inside my gums. Pulling the tooth wouldbe
> > the only way to get it out.
> > As for the bridge, they do have to grind down the teeth around it. basically
> > they use the surrounding teeth to hold up a false tooth in the middle. The
> > only way to do this is to crown the surrounding teeth.
> > That's the issue-there are no great answers to what to do about the hole.
> > That's what is keeping me from extracting that tooth right away.
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , Stephanie
> > Smith <reader41@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Steve
> > >
> > > That is where the cavistat scan would come in - an ordinary X ray will
> > only show
> > > so much but has its limitations. The cavitat scan is able to see muchmore
> > and
> > > can show if there are little pockets of infection beneath the root canal
> > called
> > > cavitations. If these are there then they are leaking toxins all through
> > your
> > > system - I have stuff on this which I will look up and post to you.
> > >
> > >
> > > From what you told me I think I have just gone about everything in the
> > wrong way
> > > - I got 2 teeth filled with replacement fillings yesterday but they are
> > the 2
> > > teeth which are either side of the 2 root canaled teeth (one is
> > coveredwith a
> > > rubbish crown)Â - which means if I have to have the 2 root canals
> > extracted then
> > > I will have to get those 2 teeth I got filled yesterday ground down to
> > take a
> > > bridge. I didn't realise that. If I had known that I would have got the 2
> > root
> > > canals looked at first [need to see another dentist for the cavitat scan
> > for
> > > that]. I'm not happy about root canal at all - a root canal tooth is a
> > dead
> > > tooth and you don't want to have something dead inside your body. Plus
> > from what
> > > I have read it is virtually impossible for a dentist - no matter how
> > competent
> > > to completely clean out and sterilise all of the myriad little chambers
> > [aside
> > > from the main roots which is what you think of when you think of a root
> > canal. I
> > > think my dentist is operating on the premise that if the root canals are
> > sound
> > > [highly doubtful I think] she will just replace the fillings in them and
> > do a
> > > new crown. I am coming from the perspective of extracting them and either
> > > leaving a big gap or going for an implant, but I don't think I want them
> > in my
> > > mouth. Do they have to grind down the good teeth to support a bridge?
> > >
> > > BW
> > >
> > > Steph
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: torch369 <torch369@>
> > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Mon, 16 August, 2010 15:49:00
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Hi Steph,
> > > Keep us posted on what you find and what you do. My root canal tooth is a
> > alrge
> > > molar on top and I wouldn't want to leave the space empty. I have 2 teeth
> > on
> > > either side for a bridge but that would mean cutting down 2 good teeth and
> > what
> > > happens if they fail?
> > > I have a mercury filling next to that root canal tooth and I am goingto
> > have it
> > > replaced but i was waiting until I decided whether to have the tooth
> > pulled
> > > because if i was then putting another filling in would be a waste of money
> > if it
> > > was going to be prepped for a supporting crown.
> > > I had the area x rayed and there is no sign of infection or bone lossbut
> > of
> > > course it can't see under the crown that's over the root canal tooth.
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , Stephanie
> > Smith <reader41@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi steve
> > > >
> > > > I am in the same situation about the 2 root canaled teeth I have - side
> > by side
> > > >
> > > > in my lower jaw - my dentist is going to refer me to another holistic
> > dentist
> > > > who specialises in RC teeth to do a cavitat scan which checks to see
> > whether
> > > > there are cavitations or pockets of toxins which can form at the base of
> > root
> > > > canal teeth which won't show up on an ordinary dental X ray - if you
> > have these
> > > >
> > > > they are leaking a constant source of toxin into your whole system which
> > can be
> > > >
> > > > a cause for a lot of the ill health and problems that MCS and ES people
> > have
> > > >and
> > > >
> > > > the existence of the cavitations or even the possibility that something
> > like
> > > > that might exist is something that a lot of dentists aren't even trained
> > in. I
> > >
> > > > know for sure in my case that a lot of my problems started after root
> > canal
> > > > treatment and have got steadily worse. these are the last 2 teeth Iwill
> > be
> > > > having treated and I would imagine that they alone are the cause of
> > maybe 50%
> > > >of
> > > >
> > > > my problems - and if I had to have them extracted I would gladly doso
> > if it
> > > > meant that my health might improve even if it meant leaving a big gap
> > with no
> > > > teeth.ÃÆ'‚Â Having said that I have had 3 amalgamsremoved so far on one
> > side of my
> > > >
> > > > mouth and since then I have had no pain in my head on driving past cell
> > towers
> > >
> > > > etc and haven't had a migraine since then either - before removal it was
> >
> > > >getting
> > > >
> > > > to the stage where I was getting very debilitating migraines sometimes
> > 2-3 a
> > > > week. Hang in there. I'm going tomorrow for another amalgam removal
> > treatment
> > > >so
> > > >
> > > > I'm hoping it goes well.
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes
> > > >
> > > > Steph
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: torch369 <torch369@>
> > > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Sat, 14 August, 2010 21:19:20
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Gold Crowns
> > > >
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> > > > I'm going to ask him which other material he prefers, I don't feel good
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> > > > putting the gold in. He has used lava Crowns before, I've also heard
> > Diamond
> > > > Crowns are also good.
> > > > If he prefers another non metal crown for the large molar I will gowith
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> > > > recommends. He is very careful about his work which I like. His
> > temporary crown
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> > > > is better than the real corwn he pulled off. The dentist who did the
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> > > > did a poor job and so did the lab.
> > > > My holistic dentist says he uses a more expensive lab when he does lava
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> > > > because they are more difficult to cut.
> > > > What to do about the root canal tooth is another issue. I wish theyhad
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> > > > option out there to replace it.
> > > > Steve
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> > > > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "Marc
> > Martin" <marc@> wrote:
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> > > > > > He didn't think Lava would be good for the main molar because it's
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> > > > > > unflexible. Any ideas on this?
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> > > > > I'm not sure why a main molar would be a problem... I've got 2 Lava
> > > > > crowns, and I think they're both on main molars.
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> > > > > I *do* know that dentists have their own personal biases on what
> > > > > materials should be used (I also saw a dentist once who preferred
> > > > > gold), but these dentists are NOT taking ES into account... just
> > > > > how long the crown might last or how strong it is.
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> mouth. Do they have to grind down the good teeth to support a bridge?
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> Steph
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> ________________________________
> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
> To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>

> >so
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> > I'm hoping it goes well.
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> > Best wishes
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> > Steph
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> > ________________________________
> > From: torch369 <torch369@>
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > unflexible. Any ideas on this?
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> > > I'm not sure why a main molar would be a problem... I've got 2 Lava
> > > crowns, and I think they're both on main molars.
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> > > I *do* know that dentists have their own personal biases on what
> > > materials should be used (I also saw a dentist once who preferred
> > > gold), but these dentists are NOT taking ES into account... just
> > > how long the crown might last or how strong it is.
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> mouth. Do they have to grind down the good teeth to support a bridge?
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> Steph
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> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
> To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>

> >so
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> > Best wishes
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> > Steph
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> > ________________________________
> > From: torch369 <torch369@>
> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > unflexible. Any ideas on this?
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> > > I'm not sure why a main molar would be a problem... I've got 2 Lava
> > > crowns, and I think they're both on main molars.
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> > > I *do* know that dentists have their own personal biases on what
> > > materials should be used (I also saw a dentist once who preferred
> > > gold), but these dentists are NOT taking ES into account... just
> > > how long the crown might last or how strong it is.
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