Thanks for the info about gemstones. When I have held some before I got a very good energy from them which makes me broach the question of all energies, spiritual and physical. Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy things? What about people? I am sensitive to people who are not in good health also to the point that sometimes I can't stand to be around them, I get nauseous and have other feelings of depression and so forth. I know when I am in Church it's like I am basking in the sunlight when I am in front of the blessed sacrament and I also have an aversion to things that are obviously evil. I am wondering if this is not a deeply spiritual thing too.
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> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy
> things? What about people? Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. Marc |
A little bit strange in churches (geopathic energy?)
and feeling really special in some buddhist temples... The only miracle I've ever had was in a buddhist temple ;-) The royal village/park (or how is it called) in Bangkok Thailand... I got migraine before I went inside, the energy there felt so good, there were like hundred people praying, when I went out 15' later, I discovered my migraine was gone (and normally migraine sticks for a copple of days)... Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy > > things? What about people? > > Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also > churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. > > Marc > |
Wow Stephen. Cool Beans! Loni
--- On Thu, 2/25/10, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Gemstones To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 9:09 AM A little bit strange in churches (geopathic energy?) and feeling really special in some buddhist temples... The only miracle I've ever had was in a buddhist temple ;-) The royal village/park (or how is it called) in Bangkok Thailand... I got migraine before I went inside, the energy there felt so good, there were like hundred people praying, when I went out 15' later, I discovered my migraine was gone (and normally migraine sticks for a copple of days)... Stephen. --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy > > things? What about people? > > Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also > churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. > > Marc > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Well, actually I also felt positive vibes in the Thamkrabok village/Monastery (is for 99% like Buddhist but not exactly). This is even stranger as it is really big (I'm guessing at least 2 miles diameter).
We were with 8 and everybody felt the positive energy... even more between the 100 feet Buddha-kinda-statues... We visited one entire day together with the leader (Gorden) of Thamkrabok, really interesting, we even got a meditation degree! They are worldwide known in their efficiency (highest worldwide, I think 90%) of helping drug addicts, with special detox herb drinks, I've heard first days the addicts arevomiting a lot! Stephen. http://www.thamkrabok.net/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_Tham_Krabok http://images.google.be/images?hl=nl&newwindow=1&safe=off&resnum=0&q=thamkrabok&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=7qSGS5qoGM_X-QbOxtTjDQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCMQsAQwAw --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > Wow Stephen. Cool Beans! Loni > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote: > > > From: stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Gemstones > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 9:09 AM > > >  > > > > A little bit strange in churches (geopathic energy?) > and feeling really special in some buddhist temples... > > The only miracle I've ever had was in a buddhist temple ;-) > > The royal village/park (or how is it called) in Bangkok Thailand... I gotmigraine before I went inside, the energy there felt so good, there were like hundred people praying, when I went out 15' later, I discovered my migraine was gone (and normally migraine sticks for a copple of days)... > > Stephen. > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote: > > > > > Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy > > > things? What about people? > > > > Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also > > churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Hi, Heather,
Same here--some people creep me out; some places creep me out; some people drain my energy, some uplift me. I don't necessarily notice a difference in all Churches--some Churches seem to be particularly peaceful orHoly to me. But I can have the same feeling in peoples' homes--chaosor peace. After I bought the Quantum Pro for our new house, it feels extremely peaceful. Of course, it is no longer painful in an ES way there, either. In our old home, our bedroom was extremely peaceful and serene. I loved it there. My aunt said our old house as a whole was "like going from a storm into a sanctuary". I can definitely tell differences in places. My husband and I go for walks and rides in the country. We go thru one particular place and each of us feel the same--creepy and like evil is hanging there. Don't know why--it makes me wonder the history there. It is always the same in that place; we have expected it to change over time, but it doesn't. I also feel good things from gemstones. Glad you feel it too, Be well, Dear, Diane --- On Thu, 2/25/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:51 AM > Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy > things? What about people? Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> I can definitely tell differences in places. My husband and I go for
> walks and rides in the country. We go thru one particular place and each > of us feel the same--creepy and like evil is hanging there. Your message reminded me of two specific examples I've experienced in the past 10 years (since this sensitivity started): 1. In Assisi Italy, where St. Francis' remains are. Great energy there (although it made my wife claustrophobic) 2. The intensive care unit (ICU) waiting room in a hospital. Bad energy there. Those are some of the most extreme examples I can remember. Marc |
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I prefer to think of energies in terms of levels of vibration as opposed togood or evil/bad. Churches,meditation/healing rooms etc, through the systematic overlaying of mulitple positive intents, tend to have a very light(high) vibration which is experienced as being positive and rejuvenating. Sick,ill and dysharmonious environments/people tend to be of a denser(lower) vibration. It is obvious that you are naturally a very sensitive person,as It appears a lot of ES people tend to be. One of the challenges for me has been in learning how to shield myself from, and take on less of, other peoples energies/attitudes and become less of a sponge. Quite difficult in my line of work. For me oceans, lakes, rivers, and nature tend to promote harmony and well being, malls , supermarkets fluro lit spaces and negative people are a big no no.
A --- In [hidden email], heather bain <hcbain2@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the info about gemstones. When I have held some before I got a very good energy from them which makes me broach the question of all energies, spiritual and physical. Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy things? What about people? I am sensitive to people who are not in good health also to the point that sometimes I can't stand to be around them, I get nauseous and have other feelings of depression and so forth. I know when I am in Church it's like I am basking in the sunlight when I am in front of the blessed sacrament and I also have an aversion to things that are obviously evil. I am wondering if this is not a deeply spiritual thingtoo. > > Thanks, > > Heather > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Greetings,
I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor I amallergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new auditorium about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an end soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with their presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is freshly showered, shaved and the hair is afreshly gelled and sprayed. I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange and it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my husband. It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think might bethe case is..... We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat that makesme ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and into the shower- no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times I wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level. Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks, Jennie ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones > Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy > things? What about people? Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Read the writings of Elaine Aron about HSP: http://hsperson.com/
Le 26/02/2010 02:06, Jennie Wassenaar a écrit : > > Greetings, > > I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor > I am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new > auditorium about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually > been pulling out of my church commitments and to date only attend > church when I am scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, > electronic equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the > stage using a certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be > coming to an end soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night > practice better than Sunday mornings and I think that is because there > are people in the auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the > electromagnetic energy with their presence and gadgets and then all > their chemicals. Cause everyone is freshly showered, shaved and the > hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed. > > I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange > and it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my > husband. It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I > think might be the case is..... > > We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my > husband detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my > husband is after he has been sweating. He must detox something through > his sweat that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight > inside and into the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes > when he goes outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just > walks to my daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At > these times I wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor > allergens he is bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started > to have some of these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a > milder level. > > Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks, > > Jennie > > ________________________________ > From: Marc Martin <[hidden email] <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com>> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones > > > Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy > > things? What about people? > > Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also > churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. > > Marc > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Jennie
Hi! I can image diff items such as detergents, deodarants, perfume, etc people may have on them since ES, and MCS-Mult Chemical Sensitivities are related and I am quite fimilar --- On Thu, 2/25/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 8:06 PM Greetings, I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor I am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new auditorium about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an end soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with their presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshlygelled and sprayed. I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange and it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my husband. Ithas been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think might be the case is..... We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is after hehas been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat that makes meill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and into the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times I wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level. Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks, Jennie ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones > Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy > things? What about people? Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Jennie, I have heard of this. It is not common but entirely true. Makes sense that his sweat which is toxic (poisons coming out of the body) can make you sick.
I know a woman that has MCS & she has intolerances to some people. Loni --- On Thu, 2/25/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 6:06 PM Greetings, I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor I am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new auditorium about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an end soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with their presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshlygelled and sprayed. I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange and it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my husband. Ithas been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think might be the case is..... We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is after hehas been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat that makes meill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and into the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times I wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level. Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks, Jennie ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones > Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy > things? What about people? Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Martin,
Thanks for the info, I look forward to finding a window of time to look over the web site in detail. I looked over the self test and I think I would score low in it, so I'm not sure if this info is pertinent to me. But, I would still find the info interesting either way. I am very sensitive to mysurroundings and making the surroundings comfortable for those around me. And I pick up easily on subtleties. But I LOVE chaos!!! My friends say Iam an adrenaline junkie. Not like jumping off high bridges :) but I like being in charge (OK control freak), making decisions, big projects and pressure. Because of the EMS & MCS I can not do as much of that type of thing as before but I still love it. Thanks again, jw ________________________________ From: Martin Kempf <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 8:39:33 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people Read the writings of Elaine Aron about HSP: http://hsperson. com/ Le 26/02/2010 02:06, Jennie Wassenaar a écrit : > > Greetings, > > I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor > I am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new > auditorium about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually > been pulling out of my church commitments and to date only attend > church when I am scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, > electronic equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the > stage using a certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be > coming to an end soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night > practice better than Sunday mornings and I think that is because there > are people in the auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the > electromagnetic energy with their presence and gadgets and then all > their chemicals. Cause everyone is freshly showered, shaved and the > hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed. > > I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange > and it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my > husband. It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I > think might be the case is..... > > We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my > husband detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my > husband is after he has been sweating. He must detox something through > his sweat that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight > inside and into the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes > when he goes outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just > walks to my daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At > these times I wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor > allergens he is bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started > to have some of these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a > milder level. > > Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks, > > Jennie > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com <mailto:marc% 40ufoseries. com>> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <mailto:eSens% 40yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones > > > Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy > > things? What about people? > > Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also > churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. > > Marc > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hello,
I am familiar with that. It has to do with your aura's. Because you are electrosesntive, your chakra's are open, and other people suck up your energy. You just have to shut-off your chakra's, and the problem is gone. I know persons with this problem, and it occurs mostly in shops when they have to wait for paying. When they have forgotten beforehand to close their chakra's, they experience this effect. When they have repaired their immunesystem, and their electrosensitivity is gone, thus effect does not occur anymore. Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:06 AM Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people > Greetings, > > I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor I > am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new auditorium > about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling > out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am > scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic > equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a > certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an end > soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than > Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the > auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with their > presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is > freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed. > > I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange and > it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my husband. > It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think might > be the case is..... > > We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband > detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is > after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat > that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and into > the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes > outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my > daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times I > wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is > bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of > these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level. > > Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks, > > Jennie > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones > > >> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy >> things? What about people? > > Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also > churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. > > Marc > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
Charles,
I know of auras but can't say I understand them. I do not know what chakrais or how to open or close it. And I am intrigued with the idea of EMS people being paranormal, I've never heard that before. Do you have any more insight into those things. Thanks, jw ________________________________ From: charles <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 1:51:34 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people Hello, I am familiar with that. It has to do with your aura's. Because you are electrosesntive, your chakra's are open, and other people suck up your energy. You just have to shut-off your chakra's, and the problem is gone. I know persons with this problem, and it occurs mostly in shops when they have to wait for paying. When they have forgotten beforehand to close their chakra's, they experience this effect. When they have repaired their immunesystem, and their electrosensitivity is gone, thus effect does not occur anymore. Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal. Greetings, Charles Claessens member VerbandBaubiologie www.milieuziektes. nl www.milieuziektes. be www.hetbitje. nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@ameritech. net> To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:06 AM Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people > Greetings, > > I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor I > am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new auditorium > about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling > out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am > scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic > equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a > certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an end > soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than > Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the > auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with their > presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is > freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed. > > I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange and > it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my husband. > It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think might > be the case is..... > > We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband > detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is > after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat > that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and into > the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes > outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my > daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times I > wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is > bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of > these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level. > > Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks, > > Jennie > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones > > >> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy >> things? What about people? > > Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also > churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. > > Marc > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi Charles,
Does paranormal include an ability to heal with ones hands, such as polarity therapy? Cheryl --- On Thu, 2/25/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:29 PM Charles, I know of auras but can't say I understand them. I do not know what chakrais or how to open or close it. And I am intrigued with the idea of EMS people being paranormal, I've never heard that before. Do you have any more insight into those things. Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 1:51:34 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people Hello, I am familiar with that. It has to do with your aura's. Because you are electrosesntive, your chakra's are open, and other people suck up your energy. You just have to shut-off your chakra's, and the problem is gone. I know persons with this problem, and it occurs mostly in shops when they have to wait for paying. When they have forgotten beforehand to close their chakra's, they experience this effect. When they have repaired their immunesystem, and their electrosensitivity is gone, thus effect does not occur anymore. Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal. Greetings, Charles Claessens member VerbandBaubiologie www.milieuziektes. nl www.milieuziektes. be www.hetbitje. nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@ameritech. net> To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:06 AM Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people > Greetings, > > I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor I > am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new auditorium > about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling > out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am > scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic > equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a > certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an end > soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than > Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the > auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with their > presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is > freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed. > > I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange and > it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my husband. > It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think might > be the case is..... > > We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband > detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is > after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat > that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and into > the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes > outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my > daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times I > wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is > bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of > these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level. > > Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks, > > Jennie > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones > > >> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy >> things? What about people? > > Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also > churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable. > > Marc > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 26/02/2010 07:57:01 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal. Greetings, Charles Claessens Puk replies - The amaerican airforce did a white papaer on UFOs and included details about electrosensitive persons in this in the late 60s. Without sounding weird I think that Telekinesis (moving objects with thought) is an interesting phenomena, which since Essers are in touch with the EMF world could be a good start to try to bring on such a power if it exists - As an Esser I do feel that I can read people at a glance, but this is more of an intuitive thing subconciously analysing the person perhaps drawing on memories etc to make conclusions. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 26/02/2010 07:57:01 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband > detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is > after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat > that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and into > the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes > outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my > daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times I > wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is > bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of > these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level. > > Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks, PUK replies - You say its not a Freudian thing, in a Freudian kind of way you have let slip that you have obviously wondered wether it might be - this is interesting, the swaet thing could be a primeieval thing, ie the pheremones either attract or repel depending on your fertility status at the time. I wonder if this one is getting mixed up with some form of tension/frustration build up in your mind (cos of the whole ES thing getting you down)and is displacing itself onto a facet of your partner ie sweat rather than the whole being. Perhaps you might subconsciously associate sweat with toil/work and due to your diminishing abilities to partake in such activites you might subconsciously object to your husbands ability to work/work up a sweat. You may also feel insecure when he leaves the house, as with so many Essers, low self esteme, feelings of inadequacy and helplessness are common so that when he returns you might resent him subconsciosly for making you feel deserted albeit momentarily, or perhaps what you have stated is completely on the mark, Who knows, but it might be worth plucking this one apart. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Spot on! Everything you have both said is what im dealing with. Qi Gong helps me deal with energies that are good and bad.
When i walk down a street, im now fine tuning between mobile phones,Wifi, electricity in the ground or above, to energies [Spirits] [ Non Whiskythat is] Lay lines.When someone is ill or angry, they can take too much ofmy energy away if im not to careful. Giles --- On Thu, 25/2/10, betty_starbuckle <[hidden email]> wrote: From: betty_starbuckle <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Gemstones To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, 25 February, 2010, 20:34 I prefer to think of energies in terms of levels of vibration as opposed to good or evil/bad. Churches,meditation /healing rooms etc, through the systematic overlaying of mulitple positive intents, tend to have a very light(high) vibration which is experienced as being positive and rejuvenating. Sick,ill and dysharmonious environments/ people tend to be of a denser(lower) vibration. It is obvious that you are naturally a very sensitive person,as It appears a lot of ES people tend to be. One of the challenges for me has been in learning how to shield myself from, and take on less of, other peoples energies/attitudes and become less of a sponge. Quite difficult in my line of work. For me oceans, lakes, rivers, and nature tend to promote harmony and well being, malls , supermarkets fluro lit spaces and negative people are a big no no. A --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, heather bain <hcbain2@... > wrote: > > Thanks for the info about gemstones. When I have held some before Igot a very good energy from them which makes me broach the question of allenergies, spiritual and physical. Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy things? What about people? I am sensitive to people who are not in good health also to the point that sometimes I can't stand to be around them, I get nauseous and have other feelings of depression and so forth. I know when I am in Church it's like I am basking in the sunlightwhen I am in front of the blessed sacrament and I also have an aversion tothings that are obviously evil. I am wondering if this is not a deeply spiritual thing too. > > Thanks, > > Heather > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I too find yoga/qui gong meditation and othe renergy practices my absolute foundation in terms of stability. Urine therapy was/is also a big help. Ada --- On Fri, 26/2/10, Christina Steils <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Christina Steils <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Gemstones To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, 26 February, 2010, 22:55 Spot on! Everything you have both said is what im dealing with. Qi Gong helps me deal with energies that are good and bad. When i walk down a street, im now fine tuning between mobile phones,Wifi, electricity in the ground or above, to energies [Spirits] [ Non Whiskythat is] Lay lines.When someone is ill or angry, they can take too much ofmy energy away if im not to careful. Giles --- On Thu, 25/2/10, betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote: From: betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk> Subject: [eSens] Re: Gemstones To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, 25 February, 2010, 20:34 I prefer to think of energies in terms of levels of vibration as opposed togood or evil/bad. Churches,meditation /healing rooms etc, through the systematic overlaying of mulitple positive intents, tend to have a very light(high) vibration which is experienced as being positive and rejuvenating. Sick,ill and dysharmonious environments/ people tend to be of a denser(lower) vibration. It is obvious that you are naturally a very sensitive person,as It appears a lot of ES people tend to be. One of the challenges for me has been in learning how to shield myself from, and take on less of, other peoples energies/attitudes and become less of a sponge. Quite difficult in my line of work. For me oceans, lakes, rivers, and nature tend to promote harmony and well being, malls , supermarkets fluro lit spaces and negative people are a big no no. A --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, heather bain <hcbain2@... > wrote: > > Thanks for the info about gemstones. When I have held some before Igot a very good energy from them which makes me broach the question of allenergies, spiritual and physical. Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy things? What about people? I am sensitive to people who are not in good health also to the point that sometimes I can't stand to be around them, I get nauseous and have other feelings of depression and so forth. I know when I am in Church it's like I am basking in the sunlightwhen I am in front of the blessed sacrament and I also have an aversion tothings that are obviously evil. I am wondering if this is not a deeply spiritual thing too. > > Thanks, > > Heather > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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