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charles-4

Re: Sensitivity to people

Sure.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cheryl Griffing" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people

Hi Charles,

Does paranormal include an ability to heal with ones hands, such as polarity
therapy?

Cheryl

--- On Thu, 2/25/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:29 PM

Charles,

I know of auras but can't say I understand them. I do not know what chakra
is or how to open or close it. And I am intrigued with the idea of EMS
people being paranormal, I've never heard that before. Do you have any more
insight into those things.

Thanks,

jw

____________ _________ _________ __

From: charles <charles@milieuziekt es.be>

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 1:51:34 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people

Hello,

I am familiar with that.

It has to do with your aura's.

Because you are electrosesntive, your chakra's are open, and other people

suck up your energy.

You just have to shut-off your chakra's, and the problem is gone.

I know persons with this problem, and it occurs mostly in shops when they

have to wait for paying.

When they have forgotten beforehand to close their chakra's, they experience

this effect.

When they have repaired their immunesystem, and their electrosensitivity is

gone, thus effect does not occur anymore.

Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal.

Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member VerbandBaubiologie

www.milieuziektes. nl

www.milieuziektes. be

www.hetbitje. nl

checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----

From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@ameritech. net>

To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:06 AM

Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people

> Greetings,

>

> I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor I

> am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new auditorium

> about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling

> out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am

> scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic

> equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a

> certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an end

> soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than

> Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the

> auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with their

> presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is

> freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed.

>

> I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange and

> it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my husband.

> It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think might

> be the case is.....

>

> We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband

> detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is

> after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat

> that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and into

> the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes

> outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my

> daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times I

> wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is

> bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of

> these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level.

>

> Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks,

>

> Jennie

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>

> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM

> Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones

>

>

>> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy

>> things? What about people?

>

> Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also

> churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable.

>

> Marc

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>

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Yahoo! Groups Links

charles-4

Re: Sensitivity to people

In reply to this post by Jennie Wassenaar

A lot of you are quite lazy and want all information brought to you at your
doorstep.
But you have to read and study for yourself.
I have placed a lot of information on my website.

See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina162.html

And yes, I have more insight.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people

> Charles,
>
> I know of auras but can't say I understand them. I do not know what
> chakra is or how to open or close it. And I am intrigued with the idea of
> EMS people being paranormal, I've never heard that before. Do you have
> any more insight into those things.
>
> Thanks,
>
> jw
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: charles <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 1:51:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am familiar with that.
>
> It has to do with your aura's.
>
> Because you are electrosesntive, your chakra's are open, and other people
> suck up your energy.
>
> You just have to shut-off your chakra's, and the problem is gone.
>
> I know persons with this problem, and it occurs mostly in shops when they
> have to wait for paying.
> When they have forgotten beforehand to close their chakra's, they
> experience
> this effect.
>
> When they have repaired their immunesystem, and their electrosensitivity
> is
> gone, thus effect does not occur anymore.
>
> Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member VerbandBaubiologie
> www.milieuziektes. nl
> www.milieuziektes. be
> www.hetbitje. nl
> checked by Norton
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@ameritech. net>
> To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:06 AM
> Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor I
>> am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new
>> auditorium
>> about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling
>> out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am
>> scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic
>> equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a
>> certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an end
>> soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than
>> Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the
>> auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with their
>> presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is
>> freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed.
>>
>> I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange and
>> it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my
>> husband.
>> It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think might
>> be the case is.....
>>
>> We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband
>> detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is
>> after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat
>> that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and
>> into
>> the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes
>> outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my
>> daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times I
>> wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is
>> bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of
>> these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level.
>>
>> Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks,
>>
>> Jennie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________ _________ _________ __
>> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
>> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
>> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones
>>
>>
>>> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy
>>> things? What about people?
>>
>> Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also
>> churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

R. Ticle

Re: Sensitivity to people

In reply to this post by sheila wade

This thread reminds me of when, some years back, I went to some large health and wellness show in the city of Toronto; maybe it was the Whole Life Expo, or something like that. Funnily, it was there that I first began to really learn about EMFs through one of the presentations of a speaker there.

It was in a big hotel or convention center, and the place was packed! So many people, exhibitors, bright lights, electricity to every booth, computers, laptops, noise, and undoubtedly, despite being a "health" oriented event,many people wearing perfumes and other artificial chemicals - never mind that it was smack dab in the downtown of a major city!

It was quite overwhelming and frazzling. I hope that one day, events,venues and jobs which cater to health-oriented people are health oriented themselves - and ensure that the attendees do everything they can to keep them so:

No fake scents; and subtle ones if natural; low EMF zones for the venue, and minimal electronic equipment; no WiFi/cell phones allowed; natural lighting; encouraging attendees so speak quietly...have you ever noticed that at gatherings, be it events, or parties, or dinners (unless at an upscale restaurant) people have this tendency to all try to speak at full volume or more? Multiply that by hundreds or thousands and you almost have to shout to be heard! It's counterproductive, and I can think of no logical reason for this behavior.

My partner just got moved to a new office space; she's in a shared office in a "Public Health Unit" building. The irony? The office is on wireless internet, she has to use a laptop, and even the phones are internet phones, running through the computers and WiFi. And she has some environmental sensitivities. What the f**k? In a Public Health building? I think that public agencies need some serious expansion of what they understand "public health" to mean.

R.

--- On Fri, 2/26/10, sheila wade <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: sheila wade <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
To: [hidden email]
Received: Friday, February 26, 2010, 1:39 AM

Jennie

Hi! I can image diff items such as detergents, deodarants, perfume, etc people may have on them

since ES, and MCS-Mult Chemical Sensitivities are related and I am quite fimilar

--- On Thu, 2/25/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 8:06 PM

Greetings,

I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor I am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new auditorium about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an end soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with their presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshlygelled and sprayed.

I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange and it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my husband. Ithas been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think might be the case is.....

We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is after hehas been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat that makes meill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and into the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times I wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level.

Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks,

Jennie

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones

> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy

> things? What about people?

Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also

churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable.

Marc

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stephen_vandevijvere

Re: Sensitivity to people

In reply to this post by charles-4

Jennie,

About auras, there is a lot of info. on the net.

The worldwide respected specialist on this matter is BARBARA BRENNAN. She wrote a lot of best-sellng books,

The book I would advise you very much on this matter is called "LIGHT EMERGING":

https://ssl207.chi.us.securedata.net/barbarabrennan.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=3

I've read the Dutch version ("Bronenn van Licht"). I think a lot of books on these things aren't very constructive, but this one is well-written, veryinteresting and inspiring.

Stephen.

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:

>
> A lot of you are quite lazy and want all information brought to you at your
> doorstep.
> But you have to read and study for yourself.
> I have placed a lot of information on my website.
>
> See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina162.html
>
> And yes, I have more insight.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@...>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
>
>
> > Charles,
> >
> > I know of auras but can't say I understand them. I do not know what
> > chakra is or how to open or close it. And I am intrigued with the ideaof
> > EMS people being paranormal, I've never heard that before. Do you have
> > any more insight into those things.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > jw
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: charles <charles@...>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 1:51:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am familiar with that.
> >
> > It has to do with your aura's.
> >
> > Because you are electrosesntive, your chakra's are open, and other people
> > suck up your energy.
> >
> > You just have to shut-off your chakra's, and the problem is gone.
> >
> > I know persons with this problem, and it occurs mostly in shops when they
> > have to wait for paying.
> > When they have forgotten beforehand to close their chakra's, they
> > experience
> > this effect.
> >
> > When they have repaired their immunesystem, and their electrosensitivity
> > is
> > gone, thus effect does not occur anymore.
> >
> > Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member VerbandBaubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes. nl
> > www.milieuziektes. be
> > www.hetbitje. nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@ameritech. net>
> > To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:06 AM
> > Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
> >
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastorI
> >> am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new
> >> auditorium
> >> about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling
> >> out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am
> >> scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic
> >> equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a
> >> certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an end
> >> soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than
> >> Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the
> >> auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with their
> >> presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is
> >> freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed.
> >>
> >> I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange and
> >> it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my
> >> husband.
> >> It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think might
> >> be the case is.....
> >>
> >> We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband
> >> detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is
> >> after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat
> >> that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and
> >> into
> >> the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes
> >> outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my
> >> daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these timesI
> >> wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is
> >> bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of
> >> these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level.
> >>
> >> Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jennie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ____________ _________ _________ __
> >> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
> >> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> >> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones
> >>
> >>
> >>> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy
> >>> things? What about people?
> >>
> >> Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also
> >> churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

stephen_vandevijvere

Re: Sensitivity to people

In reply to this post by charles-4

Charles,

I know you've helped a lot of people here already,

But if you think people ask stupid questions, just let it fly by!

I think it's a good thing we ask if we don't find the information or don't know where to look for... It can save a lot of time in searching if somebody has looked into it already,

That's part of what eSens is about?!

Stephen.

P.S. Charles, I'm still waiting on your reply admitting that you were wrongon the 3G 900 MHz in Belgium ;)

Anyway, I think your website milieuziektes.nl is really good, maybe even that good that if it would be translated in English it would be the best EMF-information website on the web (in English)...

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:

BiBrun

Re: Sensitivity to people

In reply to this post by stephen_vandevijvere

There are different kinds of sweat... depending on whether
one was watching a funny movie or scary one, the
armpits have a pleasant or unpleasant odor. This was
studied several years ago. There can also be ammonia in
sweat if one's biochemistry is stressed...
Bill

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:21 AM, stephen_vandevijvere <
[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> Jennie,
>
> About auras, there is a lot of info. on the net.
>
> The worldwide respected specialist on this matter is BARBARA BRENNAN. She
> wrote a lot of best-sellng books,
>
> The book I would advise you very much on this matter is called "LIGHT
> EMERGING":
>
>
> https://ssl207.chi.us.securedata.net/barbarabrennan.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=3
>
> I've read the Dutch version ("Bronenn van Licht"). I think a lot of books
> on these things aren't very constructive, but this one is well-written, very
> interesting and inspiring.
>
> Stephen.
>
>
> --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "charles"
> <charles@...> wrote:
> >
> > A lot of you are quite lazy and want all information brought to you at
> your
> > doorstep.
> > But you have to read and study for yourself.
> > I have placed a lot of information on my website.
> >
> > See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina162.html
> >
> > And yes, I have more insight.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.milieuziektes.be
> > www.hetbitje.nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@...>
> > To: <[hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
> >
> >
> > > Charles,
> > >
> > > I know of auras but can't say I understand them. I do not know what
> > > chakra is or how to open or close it. And I am intrigued with the idea
> of
> > > EMS people being paranormal, I've never heard that before. Do you have
> > > any more insight into those things.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > jw
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: charles <charles@...>
>
> > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 1:51:34 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am familiar with that.
> > >
> > > It has to do with your aura's.
> > >
> > > Because you are electrosesntive, your chakra's are open, and other
> people
> > > suck up your energy.
> > >
> > > You just have to shut-off your chakra's, and the problem is gone.
> > >
> > > I know persons with this problem, and it occurs mostly in shops when
> they
> > > have to wait for paying.
> > > When they have forgotten beforehand to close their chakra's, they
> > > experience
> > > this effect.
> > >
> > > When they have repaired their immunesystem, and their
> electrosensitivity
> > > is
> > > gone, thus effect does not occur anymore.
> > >
> > > Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Charles Claessens
> > > member VerbandBaubiologie
> > > www.milieuziektes. nl
> > > www.milieuziektes. be
> > > www.hetbitje. nl
> > > checked by Norton
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@ameritech. net>
> > > To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:06 AM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
> > >
> > >> Greetings,
> > >>
> > >> I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor
> I
> > >> am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new
> > >> auditorium
> > >> about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling
> > >> out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am
> > >> scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic
> > >> equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage usinga
> > >> certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an
> end
> > >> soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than
> > >> Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the
> > >> auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with
> their
> > >> presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is
> > >> freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed.
> > >>
> > >> I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange
> and
> > >> it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my
> > >> husband.
> > >> It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think
> might
> > >> be the case is.....
> > >>
> > >> We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my
> husband
> > >> detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is
> > >> after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat
> > >> that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and
> > >> into
> > >> the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes
> > >> outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my
> > >> daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times
> I
> > >> wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he
> is
> > >> bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of
> > >> these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level.
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jennie
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ____________ _________ _________ __
> > >> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
> > >> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > >> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy
> > >>> things? What about people?
> > >>
> > >> Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also
> > >> churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable.
> > >>
> > >> Marc
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > >>
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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Loni Rosser

Re: Sensitivity to people

Well it all depends also on what the person has ingested or what pollution they might have been exposed to. People process & excrete things differently. Also what their clothes have been exposed to. Loni

--- On Fri, 2/26/10, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Sensitivity to people
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 10:08 AM

There are different kinds of sweat... depending on whether
one was watching a funny movie or scary one, the
armpits have a pleasant or unpleasant odor. This was
studied several years ago. There can also be ammonia in
sweat if one's biochemistry is stressed...
Bill

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:21 AM, stephen_vandevijvere <
[hidden email]> wrote:

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charles-4

Re: Sensitivity to people

In reply to this post by stephen_vandevijvere

Yes, a typical answer.

Without looking in the direction I pointed out, the attention is
side-tracked into another lane.

You did not read my chapter about it, and certainly did not asked questions
about that.
(I can see who visited my HP.)
Because it has quite a lot to do with electrosensitivity and an explanation
of a working mechanism, which is a chapter most scientists do not have
knowledge about.

The point lies not in the aura but in quite something else.
To my knowledge, there does not exist a book that describes what I have
written there.

Babbling about complaints does not really help.
This list is not a chatroom, but a source of information.
One has to read, and study, and try to understand, also about technical
matters.

I have written a number of answers for many questions on my HP, with
pointers to studies and reports, but not many seem to be interested and keep
asking the same questions over and over again for which the answers are
already there.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----
From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:21 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Sensitivity to people

> Jennie,
>
> About auras, there is a lot of info. on the net.
>
> The worldwide respected specialist on this matter is BARBARA BRENNAN. She
> wrote a lot of best-sellng books,
>
> The book I would advise you very much on this matter is called "LIGHT
> EMERGING":
>
> https://ssl207.chi.us.securedata.net/barbarabrennan.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=3
>
> I've read the Dutch version ("Bronenn van Licht"). I think a lot of books
> on these things aren't very constructive, but this one is well-written,
> very interesting and inspiring.
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
>>
>> A lot of you are quite lazy and want all information brought to you at
>> your
>> doorstep.
>> But you have to read and study for yourself.
>> I have placed a lot of information on my website.
>>
>> See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina162.html
>>
>> And yes, I have more insight.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Charles Claessens
>> member Verband Baubiologie
>> www.milieuziektes.nl
>> www.milieuziektes.be
>> www.hetbitje.nl
>> checked by Norton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@...>
>> To: <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
>>
>>
>> > Charles,
>> >
>> > I know of auras but can't say I understand them. I do not know what
>> > chakra is or how to open or close it. And I am intrigued with the idea
>> > of
>> > EMS people being paranormal, I've never heard that before. Do you have
>> > any more insight into those things.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > jw
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: charles <charles@...>
>> > To: [hidden email]
>> > Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 1:51:34 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am familiar with that.
>> >
>> > It has to do with your aura's.
>> >
>> > Because you are electrosesntive, your chakra's are open, and other
>> > people
>> > suck up your energy.
>> >
>> > You just have to shut-off your chakra's, and the problem is gone.
>> >
>> > I know persons with this problem, and it occurs mostly in shops when
>> > they
>> > have to wait for paying.
>> > When they have forgotten beforehand to close their chakra's, they
>> > experience
>> > this effect.
>> >
>> > When they have repaired their immunesystem, and their
>> > electrosensitivity
>> > is
>> > gone, thus effect does not occur anymore.
>> >
>> > Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal.
>> >
>> > Greetings,
>> > Charles Claessens
>> > member VerbandBaubiologie
>> > www.milieuziektes. nl
>> > www.milieuziektes. be
>> > www.hetbitje. nl
>> > checked by Norton
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@ameritech. net>
>> > To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
>> > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:06 AM
>> > Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
>> >
>> >> Greetings,
>> >>
>> >> I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor
>> >> I
>> >> am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new
>> >> auditorium
>> >> about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been
>> >> pulling
>> >> out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am
>> >> scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic
>> >> equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a
>> >> certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an
>> >> end
>> >> soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better
>> >> than
>> >> Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the
>> >> auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with
>> >> their
>> >> presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is
>> >> freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed.
>> >>
>> >> I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange
>> >> and
>> >> it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my
>> >> husband.
>> >> It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think
>> >> might
>> >> be the case is.....
>> >>
>> >> We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my
>> >> husband
>> >> detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is
>> >> after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat
>> >> that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and
>> >> into
>> >> the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes
>> >> outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my
>> >> daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times
>> >> I
>> >> wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he
>> >> is
>> >> bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some
>> >> of
>> >> these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Jennie
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ____________ _________ _________ __
>> >> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
>> >> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
>> >> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy
>> >>> things? What about people?
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also
>> >> churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable.
>> >>
>> >> Marc
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>> >>
>> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Loni Rosser

Re: Sensitivity to people

In reply to this post by stephen_vandevijvere

Good Point Stephen!

We always have new members also that ask things that has been covered already. Such as yourself.

In addition, if someone has different opinion or knowledge why not share it. We can research things but it is very time consuming to do so & we all are limited on how much time we can really spend on the computer according toour ES severity.

But Charles has valid points too. He tries to help people & feels like he keeps repeating himself & it is frustrating for him.

But I love the group all in all! Loni

--- On Fri, 2/26/10, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Sensitivity to people
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 9:35 AM

Charles,

I know you've helped a lot of people here already,

But if you think people ask stupid questions, just let it fly by!

I think it's a good thing we ask if we don't find the information or don't know where to look for... It can save a lot of time in searching if somebody has looked into it already,

That's part of what eSens is about?!

Stephen.

P.S. Charles, I'm still waiting on your reply admitting that you were wrongon the 3G 900 MHz in Belgium ;)

Anyway, I think your website milieuziektes. nl is really good, maybe even that good that if it would be translated in English it would be the best EMF-information website on the web (in English)...

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "charles" <charles@... > wrote:

>
> A lot of you are quite lazy and want all information brought to you at your
> doorstep.
> But you have to read and study for yourself.
> I have placed a lot of information on my website.
>
> See: http://www.milieuzi ektes.nl/ Pagina162. html
>
> And yes, I have more insight.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes. nl
> www.milieuziektes. be
> www.hetbitje. nl
> checked by Norton
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@...>
> To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
>
>
> > Charles,
> >
> > I know of auras but can't say I understand them. I do not know what
> > chakra is or how to open or close it. And I am intrigued with the idea of
> > EMS people being paranormal, I've never heard that before. Do you have
> > any more insight into those things.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > jw
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: charles <charles@... >
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 1:51:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am familiar with that.
> >
> > It has to do with your aura's.
> >
> > Because you are electrosesntive, your chakra's are open, and other people
> > suck up your energy.
> >
> > You just have to shut-off your chakra's, and the problem is gone.
> >
> > I know persons with this problem, and it occurs mostly in shops when they
> > have to wait for paying.
> > When they have forgotten beforehand to close their chakra's, they
> > experience
> > this effect.
> >
> > When they have repaired their immunesystem, and their electrosensitivity
> > is
> > gone, thus effect does not occur anymore.
> >
> > Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member VerbandBaubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes. nl
> > www.milieuziektes. be
> > www.hetbitje. nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@ameritech. net>
> > To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:06 AM
> > Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
> >
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor I
> >> am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new
> >> auditorium
> >> about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been pulling
> >> out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am
> >> scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic
> >> equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a
> >> certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an end
> >> soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better than
> >> Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the
> >> auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with their
> >> presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is
> >> freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed.
> >>
> >> I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange and
> >> it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my
> >> husband.
> >> It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think might
> >> be the case is.....
> >>
> >> We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my husband
> >> detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is
> >> after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat
> >> that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and
> >> into
> >> the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes
> >> outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my
> >> daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times I
> >> wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he is
> >> bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some of
> >> these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level.
> >>
> >> Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jennie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ____________ _________ _________ __
> >> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
> >> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> >> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones
> >>
> >>
> >>> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy
> >>> things? What about people?
> >>
> >> Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also
> >> churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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charles-4

Re: Sensitivity to people

In reply to this post by stephen_vandevijvere

Oh no, there are no stupid questions.
There can only be stupid answers.

I only hate it for answerering questions which I have extensively discussed
on my pages, and the questioneers did not take the trouble in looking them
up beforehand.

By the way, why do you think that I placed an english flag, next to a dutch
one ?
Do you think it refers to russian, or french ?

No, it refers to the english section.
Starting at Pagina100.html, most of it is in english.

But because obviously not many english persons are interested in it, I did
not continue to update them lately.
I only update the dutch pages on a daily basis (when something worthwile is
to be mentioned).
As I mentioned before, I can see who visits my website.

Regarding the UMTS900 I have asked the BIPT, but they did not answer yet.
In their official frequency lists, it is not mentioned.
And the articles, you referred to, only mention the comings of it.
And the wish for the appropriate cell phones, which are not available yet.

And the software for my spectrumanalyser which shows the provider by name,
when I search in the specific frequency band, does not refer to it either.

So I am waiting for an official answer.

BTW. did you listen to my modulations in order to find out for which
modulation you are most sensitive?

Don't forget, that in many cities in Belgium the Wimax is already very
operational.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----
From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:35 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Sensitivity to people

> Charles,
>
> I know you've helped a lot of people here already,
>
> But if you think people ask stupid questions, just let it fly by!
>
> I think it's a good thing we ask if we don't find the information or don't
> know where to look for... It can save a lot of time in searching if
> somebody has looked into it already,
>
> That's part of what eSens is about?!
>
> Stephen.
>
>
> P.S. Charles, I'm still waiting on your reply admitting that you were
> wrong on the 3G 900 MHz in Belgium ;)
>
> Anyway, I think your website milieuziektes.nl is really good, maybe even
> that good that if it would be translated in English it would be the best
> EMF-information website on the web (in English)...
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
>>
>> A lot of you are quite lazy and want all information brought to you at
>> your
>> doorstep.
>> But you have to read and study for yourself.
>> I have placed a lot of information on my website.
>>
>> See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina162.html
>>
>> And yes, I have more insight.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Charles Claessens
>> member Verband Baubiologie
>> www.milieuziektes.nl
>> www.milieuziektes.be
>> www.hetbitje.nl
>> checked by Norton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@...>
>> To: <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
>>
>>
>> > Charles,
>> >
>> > I know of auras but can't say I understand them. I do not know what
>> > chakra is or how to open or close it. And I am intrigued with the idea
>> > of
>> > EMS people being paranormal, I've never heard that before. Do you have
>> > any more insight into those things.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > jw
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: charles <charles@...>
>> > To: [hidden email]
>> > Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 1:51:34 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am familiar with that.
>> >
>> > It has to do with your aura's.
>> >
>> > Because you are electrosesntive, your chakra's are open, and other
>> > people
>> > suck up your energy.
>> >
>> > You just have to shut-off your chakra's, and the problem is gone.
>> >
>> > I know persons with this problem, and it occurs mostly in shops when
>> > they
>> > have to wait for paying.
>> > When they have forgotten beforehand to close their chakra's, they
>> > experience
>> > this effect.
>> >
>> > When they have repaired their immunesystem, and their
>> > electrosensitivity
>> > is
>> > gone, thus effect does not occur anymore.
>> >
>> > Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal.
>> >
>> > Greetings,
>> > Charles Claessens
>> > member VerbandBaubiologie
>> > www.milieuziektes. nl
>> > www.milieuziektes. be
>> > www.hetbitje. nl
>> > checked by Norton
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@ameritech. net>
>> > To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
>> > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:06 AM
>> > Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
>> >
>> >> Greetings,
>> >>
>> >> I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor
>> >> I
>> >> am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new
>> >> auditorium
>> >> about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been
>> >> pulling
>> >> out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am
>> >> scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic
>> >> equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a
>> >> certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an
>> >> end
>> >> soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better
>> >> than
>> >> Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the
>> >> auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with
>> >> their
>> >> presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is
>> >> freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed.
>> >>
>> >> I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange
>> >> and
>> >> it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my
>> >> husband.
>> >> It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think
>> >> might
>> >> be the case is.....
>> >>
>> >> We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my
>> >> husband
>> >> detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is
>> >> after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat
>> >> that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and
>> >> into
>> >> the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes
>> >> outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my
>> >> daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times
>> >> I
>> >> wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he
>> >> is
>> >> bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some
>> >> of
>> >> these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Jennie
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ____________ _________ _________ __
>> >> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
>> >> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
>> >> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy
>> >>> things? What about people?
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also
>> >> churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable.
>> >>
>> >> Marc
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>> >>
>> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

stephen_vandevijvere

Re: Sensitivity to people

Charles,

-About the British flag, well I thought it was there just for show :)

-About the 3G on 900 in Belgium,
Yes we'll wait for BIPT's answer, thanks for checking,
(it is just strange if it wouldn't be the case because a lot of sources mention Proximus/Mobistar/Base are emitting it already; now I'm asking 2 people I know of the Flemish "Beperk de Straling")

-About the modulations, I've read some of your previous posts, I suppose you mean I should listen to the mp3's on your site and check if I can stand them?

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html

I've listened to some of them, but should I have the symptoms after listening it for once (10 seconds)? Or do you have to listen repeatedly to have a good estimate what modulations would bother me most?

Stephen.

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:

>
> Oh no, there are no stupid questions.
> There can only be stupid answers.
>
> I only hate it for answerering questions which I have extensively discussed
> on my pages, and the questioneers did not take the trouble in looking them
> up beforehand.
>
>
> By the way, why do you think that I placed an english flag, next to a dutch
> one ?
> Do you think it refers to russian, or french ?
>
> No, it refers to the english section.
> Starting at Pagina100.html, most of it is in english.
>
> But because obviously not many english persons are interested in it, I did
> not continue to update them lately.
> I only update the dutch pages on a daily basis (when something worthwile is
> to be mentioned).
> As I mentioned before, I can see who visits my website.
>
> Regarding the UMTS900 I have asked the BIPT, but they did not answer yet.
> In their official frequency lists, it is not mentioned.
> And the articles, you referred to, only mention the comings of it.
> And the wish for the appropriate cell phones, which are not available yet.
>
> And the software for my spectrumanalyser which shows the provider by name,
> when I search in the specific frequency band, does not refer to it either.
>
> So I am waiting for an official answer.
>
> BTW. did you listen to my modulations in order to find out for which
> modulation you are most sensitive?
>
> Don't forget, that in many cities in Belgium the Wimax is already very
> operational.
>
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@...>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:35 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Sensitivity to people
>
>
> > Charles,
> >
> > I know you've helped a lot of people here already,
> >
> > But if you think people ask stupid questions, just let it fly by!
> >
> > I think it's a good thing we ask if we don't find the information or don't
> > know where to look for... It can save a lot of time in searching if
> > somebody has looked into it already,
> >
> > That's part of what eSens is about?!
> >
> > Stephen.
> >
> >
> > P.S. Charles, I'm still waiting on your reply admitting that you were
> > wrong on the 3G 900 MHz in Belgium ;)
> >
> > Anyway, I think your website milieuziektes.nl is really good, maybe even
> > that good that if it would be translated in English it would be the best
> > EMF-information website on the web (in English)...
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
> >>
> >> A lot of you are quite lazy and want all information brought to you at
> >> your
> >> doorstep.
> >> But you have to read and study for yourself.
> >> I have placed a lot of information on my website.
> >>
> >> See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina162.html
> >>
> >> And yes, I have more insight.
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >> Charles Claessens
> >> member Verband Baubiologie
> >> www.milieuziektes.nl
> >> www.milieuziektes.be
> >> www.hetbitje.nl
> >> checked by Norton
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@>
> >> To: <[hidden email]>
> >> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:29 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
> >>
> >>
> >> > Charles,
> >> >
> >> > I know of auras but can't say I understand them. I do not know what
> >> > chakra is or how to open or close it. And I am intrigued with the idea
> >> > of
> >> > EMS people being paranormal, I've never heard that before. Do you have
> >> > any more insight into those things.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > jw
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: charles <charles@>
> >> > To: [hidden email]
> >> > Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 1:51:34 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I am familiar with that.
> >> >
> >> > It has to do with your aura's.
> >> >
> >> > Because you are electrosesntive, your chakra's are open, and other
> >> > people
> >> > suck up your energy.
> >> >
> >> > You just have to shut-off your chakra's, and the problem is gone.
> >> >
> >> > I know persons with this problem, and it occurs mostly in shops when
> >> > they
> >> > have to wait for paying.
> >> > When they have forgotten beforehand to close their chakra's, they
> >> > experience
> >> > this effect.
> >> >
> >> > When they have repaired their immunesystem, and their
> >> > electrosensitivity
> >> > is
> >> > gone, thus effect does not occur anymore.
> >> >
> >> > Most electrosensitives are a bit paranormal.
> >> >
> >> > Greetings,
> >> > Charles Claessens
> >> > member VerbandBaubiologie
> >> > www.milieuziektes. nl
> >> > www.milieuziektes. be
> >> > www.hetbitje. nl
> >> > checked by Norton
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Jennie Wassenaar" <ad-in@ameritech. net>
> >> > To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
> >> > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:06 AM
> >> > Subject: [eSens] Sensitivity to people
> >> >
> >> >> Greetings,
> >> >>
> >> >> I was an avid church goer and still wish I could be. I told my pastor
> >> >> I
> >> >> am allergic to church. Part of the problem is they built a new
> >> >> auditorium
> >> >> about 5 years ago for over 2,000 people. I have gradually been
> >> >> pulling
> >> >> out of my church commitments and to date only attend church when I am
> >> >> scheduled to sing. And because of all the microphone, electronic
> >> >> equipment, etc. I have to stand at a certain part of the stage using a
> >> >> certain microphone. Sadly enough, I think that will be coming to an
> >> >> end
> >> >> soon. I have found that I tolerate Thursday night practice better
> >> >> than
> >> >> Sunday mornings and I think that is because there are people in the
> >> >> auditorium on Sundays. Increasing the electromagnetic energy with
> >> >> their
> >> >> presence and gadgets and then all their chemicals. Cause everyone is
> >> >> freshly showered, shaved and the hair is a freshly gelled and sprayed.
> >> >>
> >> >> I do react badly to some people. This is going to sound very strange
> >> >> and
> >> >> it's not a Freudian thing, but I can have bad reactions around my
> >> >> husband.
> >> >> It has been hard for him not to take personally. But what I think
> >> >> might
> >> >> be the case is.....
> >> >>
> >> >> We all have different biochemistry. I think that what and how my
> >> >> husband
> >> >> detoxes effects me. The times I have a bad reaction to my husband is
> >> >> after he has been sweating. He must detox something through his sweat
> >> >> that makes me ill. So, now if he sweats he comes straight inside and
> >> >> into
> >> >> the shower - no stopping for chatting. Also, sometimes when he goes
> >> >> outside (sometimes for as little as 5 minutes) and just walks to my
> >> >> daughter's house next door when he returns I feel ill. At these times
> >> >> I
> >> >> wonder if his biochemistry reacts to some of the outdoor allergens he
> >> >> is
> >> >> bringing inside and causes me to react. I have started to have some
> >> >> of
> >> >> these effects from my 8 year old grandson as well on a milder level.
> >> >>
> >> >> Has anyone heard of anything like that before? Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jennie
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __
> >> >> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
> >> >> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> >> >> Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:51:53 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Gemstones
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Are you guys sensitive to evil or holy
> >> >>> things? What about people?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, I've felt different around certain people and also
> >> >> churches... nothing too dramatic, but noticeable.
> >> >>
> >> >> Marc
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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