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Pam 12, Dafna Tachover <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Dafna Tachover <[hidden email]> Subject: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed To: Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 9:34 AM Hi All, I thought it is an interesting article for people with EHS as well as others. The doctor claims, as I do, that the worst polluter and danger to our healt is electromagnetic radiation. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmaisonsaine.ca%2Felectrosensitivity-symptoms-can-be-eliminated-in-60-of-people-and-significantly-reduced-in-the-rest-dr-brian-clement%2F&h=XAQEiHDso -- Dafna Tachover -- Dafna Tachover [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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*A naturopath who holds a doctorate in nutrition, Brian Clement says he has successfully treated more than 4,000 electrohypersensitive people at the Hippocrates Institute which he heads. * How many of this eSens group were among these 4.000 persons? I wonder. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: pamela clemonts To: eSens Group Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 18:55 Subject: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Love this one. Pam 12, Dafna Tachover <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Dafna Tachover <[hidden email]> Subject: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed To: Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 9:34 AM Hi All, I thought it is an interesting article for people with EHS as well as others. The doctor claims, as I do, that the worst polluter and danger to our healt is electromagnetic radiation. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmaisonsaine.ca%2Felectrosensitivity-symptoms-can-be-eliminated-in-60-of-people-and-significantly-reduced-in-the-rest-dr-brian-clement%2F&h=XAQEiHDso -- Dafna Tachover -- Dafna Tachover [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hello everyone
Haven't been on the forum for quite some time now - haven't been well - but was interested in this. In the interview Clement talks about protecting with the use of Gia chips for Computers and Cell phones - I could be wrong but a quick google suggests that this uses the MRET technology - can anyone put me straight on this in case I have it wrong but wasn't this the technology being incorporated in the "biopro" device [or similar] which George Carlo was controversially involved with and didn't he come out and later say that he had ceased to be involved with it because it didn't work??? I'm asking because if I am wrong and this stuff does help then I'd order it to put on the computer so I could use it a bit without getting ill effects. Thanks Steph ________________________________ From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> To: eSens Group <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, 21 July 2012, 17:55 Subject: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Love this one. Pam 12, Dafna Tachover <mailto:dtachover%40gmail.com> wrote: From: Dafna Tachover <mailto:dtachover%40gmail.com> Subject: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed To: Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 9:34 AM Hi All, I thought it is an interesting article for people with EHS as well as others. The doctor claims, as I do, that the worst polluter and danger to our healt is electromagnetic radiation. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmaisonsaine.ca%2Felectrosensitivity-symptoms-can-be-eliminated-in-60-of-people-and-significantly-reduced-in-the-rest-dr-brian-clement%2F&h=XAQEiHDso -- Dafna Tachover -- Dafna Tachover [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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HI Steph, Yes, your memory is correct. The Biopro product was a scam, and Carlo's did admit it.Clement kind of skips over this and states something to the effect, that there "are" products out there, backed by good science, that do or can work. IF there are products, cell stickers/ ect- that work, I'm not aware of them. Perhaps others on here are. What I cantell you in my opinion is this: I have used a wide variety of such products earlier in the years, and have friends whohave also used a variety of such products. From this, the take home message I got was, people tended to "feel safe"and yet, ended up with a variety of health issues, which tells me all i need to know. Some had NO effect, and others seemed to MASK the effects. Meaning with a blocking/protective sticker, with productversus without, the ones that MASK the symptoms appear to be, FAR more dangerous. Akin to taking prescription drugsthat also MASK the symptoms of whatever it is being taken for. ES symptoms are - to my way of thinking, the body's emergency defense system, telling you, something IS wrong. Making the symptoms "go away" isn't the same as true protection. IN this case, the same harmful exposure is still causing harm to the body, but its now, just being "hidden"Prolonged exposures to any accumulative toxins is, in my opinion, going to lead to more damage at the biological level. There are products that are said to "protect the body's bio field". Or transmute as in change the harmful effects of certain frequencies. To date, I remain UN convinced, that using such a product, is beneficial. For those products that claim to blockharmful RF radiation, it would seem to either make the cell phone antenna work harder to reach the cell towers, or blockthe signal ,in which case, the cell phone doesn't work. What I see, that works, is to severely reduce use of cell phones, in TRUE emergencies only, use hard wired computers,and not use cordless telephones but replace with a corded phone. LizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 17:22:58 +0100 Subject: Re: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Hello everyone Haven't been on the forum for quite some time now - haven't been well - but was interested in this. In the interview Clement talks about protecting with the use of Gia chips for Computers and Cell phones - I could be wrong but a quick google suggests that this uses the MRET technology - can anyone put me straight on this in case I have it wrong but wasn't this the technology being incorporated in the "biopro" device [or similar] which George Carlo was controversially involved with and didn't he come out and later say that he had ceased to be involved with it because it didn't work??? I'm asking because if I am wrong and this stuff does help then I'd order it to put on the computer so I could use it a bit without getting ill effects. Thanks Steph ________________________________ From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> To: eSens Group <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, 21 July 2012, 17:55 Subject: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Love this one. Pam 12, Dafna Tachover <mailto:dtachover%40gmail.com> wrote: From: Dafna Tachover <mailto:dtachover%40gmail.com> Subject: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed To: Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 9:34 AM Hi All, I thought it is an interesting article for people with EHS as well as others. The doctor claims, as I do, that the worst polluter and danger to our healt is electromagnetic radiation. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmaisonsaine.ca%2Felectrosensitivity-symptoms-can-be-eliminated-in-60-of-people-and-significantly-reduced-in-the-rest-dr-brian-clement%2F&h=XAQEiHDso -- Dafna Tachover -- Dafna Tachover [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> I'm asking because if I am wrong and this stuff does help
> then I'd order it to put on the computer so I could use it > a bit without getting ill effects. Have you tried anything from Quantum Products? This is what helps me the most with computers. http://www.quantumproducts.com If you are using Microsoft Windows, they even have a software download ("Quantum Byte") that *somehow* incorporates this technology... (and it's not a scam -- several folks have reported noticing a clear difference) Marc |
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Hi Lizzie
Thanks for this - you are probably right - I'm just wishing there was something that would work without masking or causing more harm :) but thanks for the sensible take on this anyway - I did a bit of googling myself and came on a site [EMF health maybe?] that said that the biopro stuff was a scam - but on another page on the same site it denounced EHS as being psychosomatic - LOL!! If only they experienced it for themselves! Steph ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2012, 17:47 Subject: RE: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed HI Steph, Yes, your memory is correct. The Biopro product was a scam, and Carlo's did admit it.Clement kind of skips over this and states something to the effect, that there "are" products out there, backed by good science, that do or can work. IF there are products, cell stickers/ ect- that work, I'm not aware of them. Perhaps others on here are. What I cantell you in my opinion is this: I have used a wide variety of such products earlier in the years, and have friends whohave also used a variety of such products. From this, the take home message I got was, people tended to "feel safe"and yet, ended up with a variety of health issues, which tells me all i need to know. Some had NO effect, and others seemed to MASK the effects. Meaning with a blocking/protective sticker, with productversus without, the ones that MASK the symptoms appear to be, FAR more dangerous. Akin to taking prescription drugsthat also MASK the symptoms of whatever it is being taken for. ES symptoms are - to my way of thinking, the body's emergency defense system, telling you, something IS wrong. Making the symptoms "go away" isn't the same as true protection. IN this case, the same harmful exposure is still causing harm to the body, but its now, just being "hidden"Prolonged exposures to any accumulative toxins is, in my opinion, going to lead to more damage at the biological level. There are products that are said to "protect the body's bio field". Or transmute as in change the harmful effects of certain frequencies. To date, I remain UN convinced, that using such a product, is beneficial. For those products that claim to blockharmful RF radiation, it would seem to either make the cell phone antenna work harder to reach the cell towers, or blockthe signal ,in which case, the cell phone doesn't work. What I see, that works, is to severely reduce use of cell phones, in TRUE emergencies only, use hard wired computers,and not use cordless telephones but replace with a corded phone. LizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 17:22:58 +0100 Subject: Re: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Hello everyone Haven't been on the forum for quite some time now - haven't been well - but was interested in this. In the interview Clement talks about protecting with the use of Gia chips for Computers and Cell phones - I could be wrong but a quick google suggests that this uses the MRET technology - can anyone put me straight on this in case I have it wrong but wasn't this the technology being incorporated in the "biopro" device [or similar] which George Carlo was controversially involved with and didn't he come out and later say that he had ceased to be involved with it because it didn't work??? I'm asking because if I am wrong and this stuff does help then I'd order it to put on the computer so I could use it a bit without getting ill effects. Thanks Steph ________________________________ From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> To: eSens Group <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, 21 July 2012, 17:55 Subject: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Love this one. Pam 12, Dafna Tachover <mailto:dtachover%40gmail.com> wrote: From: Dafna Tachover <mailto:dtachover%40gmail.com> Subject: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed To: Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 9:34 AM Hi All, I thought it is an interesting article for people with EHS as well as others. The doctor claims, as I do, that the worst polluter and danger to our healt is electromagnetic radiation. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmaisonsaine.ca%2Felectrosensitivity-symptoms-can-be-eliminated-in-60-of-people-and-significantly-reduced-in-the-rest-dr-brian-clement%2F&h=XAQEiHDso -- Dafna Tachover -- Dafna Tachover [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks Marc - do you use the quantum companion?
Steph ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2012, 18:19 Subject: Re: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > I'm asking because if I am wrong and this stuff does help > then I'd order it to put on the computer so I could use it > a bit without getting ill effects. Have you tried anything from Quantum Products? This is what helps me the most with computers. http://www.quantumproducts.com If you are using Microsoft Windows, they even have a software download ("Quantum Byte") that *somehow* incorporates this technology... (and it's not a scam -- several folks have reported noticing a clear difference) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On July 22, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks Marc - do you use the quantum companion? Yes, I have two of them, in fact... :-) The Quantum Companion is the weakest protection they offer (because it's only powered by a single AA battery). But it's portable, and using two is more powerful than one (there was a time that I needed to use both at work, but not at the moment). As for the question of scams, masking, harmful, helpful, etc., there is a wide range of response (or lack thereof) to EMF protection devices. All I can is that I would have a very different life without them, because I would not be able to perform my job or probably live where I do. I will say that some of these devices provoked a rather quick & severe detox reaction, which I think is an indication that they are beneficial (or at least were at the time). One of the problems that EMF causes is that it slows down/ shuts down some of the bodies natural detox processes. And if you find yourself in a serious detox from a device, then you'll have to slowly build a "resistance" to it. Too much detox is unpleasant (and could potentially be dangerous). Marc |
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It is tempting,isn't it, to wish this on them? Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 20:59:42 +0100 Subject: Re: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Hi Lizzie Thanks for this - you are probably right - I'm just wishing there was something that would work without masking or causing more harm :) but thanks for the sensible take on this anyway - I did a bit of googling myself and came on a site [EMF health maybe?] that said that the biopro stuff was a scam - but on another page on the same site it denounced EHS as being psychosomatic - LOL!! If only they experienced it for themselves! Steph ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2012, 17:47 Subject: RE: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed HI Steph, Yes, your memory is correct. The Biopro product was a scam, and Carlo's did admit it.Clement kind of skips over this and states something to the effect, that there "are" products out there, backed by good science, that do or can work. IF there are products, cell stickers/ ect- that work, I'm not aware of them. Perhaps others on here are. What I cantell you in my opinion is this: I have used a wide variety of such products earlier in the years, and have friends whohave also used a variety of such products. From this, the take home message I got was, people tended to "feel safe"and yet, ended up with a variety of health issues, which tells me all i need to know. Some had NO effect, and others seemed to MASK the effects. Meaning with a blocking/protective sticker, with productversus without, the ones that MASK the symptoms appear to be, FAR more dangerous. Akin to taking prescription drugsthat also MASK the symptoms of whatever it is being taken for. ES symptoms are - to my way of thinking, the body's emergency defense system, telling you, something IS wrong. Making the symptoms "go away" isn't the same as true protection. IN this case, the same harmful exposure is still causing harm to the body, but its now, just being "hidden"Prolonged exposures to any accumulative toxins is, in my opinion, going to lead to more damage at the biological level. There are products that are said to "protect the body's bio field". Or transmute as in change the harmful effects of certain frequencies. To date, I remain UN convinced, that using such a product, is beneficial. For those products that claim to blockharmful RF radiation, it would seem to either make the cell phone antenna work harder to reach the cell towers, or blockthe signal ,in which case, the cell phone doesn't work. What I see, that works, is to severely reduce use of cell phones, in TRUE emergencies only, use hard wired computers,and not use cordless telephones but replace with a corded phone. LizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 17:22:58 +0100 Subject: Re: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Hello everyone Haven't been on the forum for quite some time now - haven't been well - but was interested in this. In the interview Clement talks about protecting with the use of Gia chips for Computers and Cell phones - I could be wrong but a quick google suggests that this uses the MRET technology - can anyone put me straight on this in case I have it wrong but wasn't this the technology being incorporated in the "biopro" device [or similar] which George Carlo was controversially involved with and didn't he come out and later say that he had ceased to be involved with it because it didn't work??? I'm asking because if I am wrong and this stuff does help then I'd order it to put on the computer so I could use it a bit without getting ill effects. Thanks Steph ________________________________ From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> To: eSens Group <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, 21 July 2012, 17:55 Subject: [eSens] Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Love this one. Pam 12, Dafna Tachover <mailto:dtachover%40gmail.com> wrote: From: Dafna Tachover <mailto:dtachover%40gmail.com> Subject: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed To: Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 9:34 AM Hi All, I thought it is an interesting article for people with EHS as well as others. The doctor claims, as I do, that the worst polluter and danger to our healt is electromagnetic radiation. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmaisonsaine.ca%2Felectrosensitivity-symptoms-can-be-eliminated-in-60-of-people-and-significantly-reduced-in-the-rest-dr-brian-clement%2F&h=XAQEiHDso -- Dafna Tachover -- Dafna Tachover [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Marc, does the Quantum device need a three prong outlet? I live in a
2-wire house, and since I rent, I can't do a darn thing about it. Landlord won't rewire it. Thanks, Esther On Jul 22, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Marc Martin wrote: > On July 22, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Thanks Marc - do you use the quantum companion? > > Yes, I have two of them, in fact... :-) The Quantum Companion is > the weakest protection they offer (because it's only powered by > a single AA battery). But it's portable, and using two is more > powerful than one (there was a time that I needed to use > both at work, but not at the moment). > > As for the question of scams, masking, harmful, helpful, etc., > there is a wide range of response (or lack thereof) to EMF > protection devices. All I can is that I would have a very > different life without them, because I would not be able > to perform my job or probably live where I do. > > I will say that some of these devices provoked a rather > quick & severe detox reaction, which I think is an indication > that they are beneficial (or at least were at the time). One > of the problems that EMF causes is that it slows down/ > shuts down some of the bodies natural detox processes. > > And if you find yourself in a serious detox from a device, > then you'll have to slowly build a "resistance" to it. Too > much detox is unpleasant (and could potentially be > dangerous). > > Marc > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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On July 22, Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Marc, does the Quantum device need a three prong outlet? I live in a > 2-wire house, and since I rent, I can't do a darn thing about it. > Landlord won't rewire it. The Quantum Companion runs on one AA battery. The Quantum Power Conditioner (power strips) have a 3-prong (grounded) plug. The Quantum Home and Quantum Pro have a 2-prong DC adapter (no ground needed) Marc |
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has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html
jp --- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@...> wrote: > > Love this one. > > Pam > > 12, Dafna Tachover <dtachover@...> wrote: > > > From: Dafna Tachover <dtachover@...> > Subject: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > To: > Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 9:34 AM > > > Hi All, > > I thought it is an interesting article for people with EHS as well as > others. The doctor claims, as I do, that the worst polluter and danger > to our healt is electromagnetic radiation. > > http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmaisonsaine.ca%2Felectrosensitivity-symptoms-can-be-eliminated-in-60-of-people-and-significantly-reduced-in-the-rest-dr-brian-clement%2F&h=XAQEiHDso > > > -- > Dafna Tachover > > > > -- > Dafna Tachover > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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I have them here (in my collection of gizmo's).
Originally they were developed by a Belgian professor. And he told me, that in the beginning he sold the material to this company, who started trying to copy it, with no success. That was years ago, and now nobody talks about it. The successor is the CMO products. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: jpnordica To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:36 Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html jp --- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@...> wrote: > > Love this one. > > Pam > > 12, Dafna Tachover <dtachover@...> wrote: > > > From: Dafna Tachover <dtachover@...> > Subject: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > To: > Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 9:34 AM > > > Hi All, > > I thought it is an interesting article for people with EHS as well as > others. The doctor claims, as I do, that the worst polluter and danger > to our healt is electromagnetic radiation. > > http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmaisonsaine.ca%2Felectrosensitivity-symptoms-can-be-eliminated-in-60-of-people-and-significantly-reduced-in-the-rest-dr-brian-clement%2F&h=XAQEiHDso > > > -- > Dafna Tachover > > > > -- > Dafna Tachover > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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so what do you think of the effectiveness of this or CMO product?
thanks jp --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > I have them here (in my collection of gizmo's). > > Originally they were developed by a Belgian professor. > And he told me, that in the beginning he sold the material to this company, who started trying to copy it, with no success. > > That was years ago, and now nobody talks about it. > > The successor is the CMO products. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by NIS2012 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jpnordica > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:36 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > > > has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html > > jp > > --- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@> wrote: > > > > Love this one. > > > > Pam > > > > 12, Dafna Tachover <dtachover@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Dafna Tachover <dtachover@> > > Subject: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > > To: > > Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 9:34 AM > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > I thought it is an interesting article for people with EHS as well as > > others. The doctor claims, as I do, that the worst polluter and danger > > to our healt is electromagnetic radiation. > > > > http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmaisonsaine.ca%2Felectrosensitivity-symptoms-can-be-eliminated-in-60-of-people-and-significantly-reduced-in-the-rest-dr-brian-clement%2F&h=XAQEiHDso > > > > > > -- > > Dafna Tachover > > > > > > > > -- > > Dafna Tachover > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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I have developed my own *protection device*.
I have a client who is extreme electrosensitive. She now lives temporarily in a wooden shed in the woods, with no electricity. For having a bit of light at the evening, I bought a 48LEd handlight, which accu can be charged at the neighbours. But the lamp in the vicinity, and even not *on*, so in the *off* position, it causes headaches. I measured her with my Biofeedback system. When everything is right, the value of *electromagnetic radiation*, which is the amount of elektrosmog present in the body must be between 0,046 and 0,147. I measured her on 21-10-2011 in her elektrosmog loaded house with 0,462, which is very high. On 30-05-2012 in the woods it was down to 0,15. On 18-07-2012 at 14:27 hour it was even better, 0,05. Without the person knowing, I placed the lamp hidden at 1 meter distance, in the *off* position. And I measured again at 14:35, exactly 3 minutes after placing the lamp, and measured 0,086. That is an increase of 0,036 in three minutes time, or 22%! Other Biomarkers like Blood Stroke Volume, de Myocardial Blood Demand, Functional Status of Cranial Nerve, Pineal Secretion Index, etc also showed a rise So, I *scientifically* proved that this person reacted biologically to the battery of this lamp! And that the body reactions were real and that she is no fool. For a Nebulizer I furnished her with an chargable battery of 12V and 7Ah. On it I connected one of my *gizmo's*, and she declared not to have reactions at all. Although I have cured my wife, and she is not hindered anymore by mobile phone masts, DECT phones, wireless modems, mobiles, smartphones, etc, but now and then some very weak magnetic fields may cause complaints. So I placed my *gizmo's* on the loader of the central heating pump, on our negative-ion generator, our Philips air frier, TV, the charger of the battery of my laptop, etc. PS. I do know that there are electrosensitive persons who do react to batteries, even the blockbatteries of 9V, and especially the ones from mobiles. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: jpnordica To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:57 Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed so what do you think of the effectiveness of this or CMO product? thanks jp --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > I have them here (in my collection of gizmo's). > > Originally they were developed by a Belgian professor. > And he told me, that in the beginning he sold the material to this company, who started trying to copy it, with no success. > > That was years ago, and now nobody talks about it. > > The successor is the CMO products. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by NIS2012 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jpnordica > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:36 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > > > has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html > > jp > > --- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@> wrote: > > > > Love this one. > > > > Pam > > > > 12, Dafna Tachover <dtachover@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Dafna Tachover <dtachover@> > > Subject: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > > To: > > Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 9:34 AM > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > I thought it is an interesting article for people with EHS as well as > > others. The doctor claims, as I do, that the worst polluter and danger > > to our healt is electromagnetic radiation. > > > > http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmaisonsaine.ca%2Felectrosensitivity-symptoms-can-be-eliminated-in-60-of-people-and-significantly-reduced-in-the-rest-dr-brian-clement%2F&h=XAQEiHDso > > > > > > -- > > Dafna Tachover > > > > > > > > -- > > Dafna Tachover > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Charles,
Are you talking about cel-factor? www cel -factor.com/the-science/clinicalstudies/ cutcat.com/docs/tecnostudies.pdf CMO (Compensatory Magnetic Oscillation) / T.A.O. (Technology of ..... In reality it is not conceivable to stop the technological development of electronic products ... EMF from equipment used by the public, show that it is possible to reduce the ... At the biophysical level; the disruptive effects of EMF on ionic exchanges. 7 ... Or this one below? Kathy Dear Team of EMFOFF My name is Frank Albrecht, I work as Feng Shui practitioner and Holistic Health Researcher in Ireland. I just came across your website which I found very good. I have been examining houses for Feng SHui, geopathic stress and electromagnetic fields here in Ireland since the last 9 years – using different methods. One method I like to use are Bio-Resonance measurements of the negative information that is transmitted through walls inside a house, from mobile phone and wifi masts. With the aid of this methods I was able to proof the efficiency of a protective device. UNfortunately many of the devices that claim to be protective against EMF are not very efficient. End of last year a German author, alternative scientist, Feng Shui expert explained to me that he had developed a device (a small disc) that would clear all geopathic stress in a house (to over 90%) and the negative biological effects of EMF (to over 90%). I got this device sent and did my Bio- Resonance examinations with it, and the results were more then amazing. This device completely (to over 90 – 95%) alters the negative information of the Electromagnetic Fields as a result they loose their health damaging effects. A reduction of the technical EMF’s does not happen. In all the previous years I had never come across a device that works so efficiently – and I tested many of them. All gridnetworks in the house were completely gone and streams and underground faults were rendered harmless. The effects of EMF are all turned into positive energy. The effects of this go far beyond devices that are known on the Uk and Irish markets. After the research I did, I made the immediate decision to become importer for this device for the UK and Ireland. At present I am interested to find partners for the marketing in the UK. If you are interested to know more about it, I would be looking forward to hearing from you. With kind Regards, Frank Albrecht http://www.thelife.ie -- From: charles <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 1:48 PM I have them here (in my collection of gizmo's). Originally they were developed by a Belgian professor. And he told me, that in the beginning he sold the material to this company, who started trying to copy it, with no success. That was years ago, and now nobody talks about it. The successor is the CMO products. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: jpnordica To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:36 Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html jp --- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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It doesn't WORK. Even George Carlos who helped market this product admitted later the product did NOT work. (Carlos headed the first cell phone study, paid for by Motorola, in the 90's that found cell ph cause cancer) lizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:36:24 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html jp --- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@...> wrote: > > Love this one. > > Pam > > 12, Dafna Tachover <dtachover@...> wrote: > > > From: Dafna Tachover <dtachover@...> > Subject: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > To: > Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 9:34 AM > > > Hi All, > > I thought it is an interesting article for people with EHS as well as > others. The doctor claims, as I do, that the worst polluter and danger > to our healt is electromagnetic radiation. > > http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmaisonsaine.ca%2Felectrosensitivity-symptoms-can-be-eliminated-in-60-of-people-and-significantly-reduced-in-the-rest-dr-brian-clement%2F&h=XAQEiHDso > > > -- > Dafna Tachover > > > > -- > Dafna Tachover > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On July 23, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It doesn't WORK. Even George Carlos who helped market this > product admitted later the product did NOT work. > http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html I think you're confusing EMF protection devices, Lizzie. Carlos was associated with BioPro, not this. Although this product doesn't look particularly relevant in today's world, as it looks like it was designed for a cathode ray tube monitor (not LCD) Marc |
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Most devices or gizmo's who may give a relief do NOTHING to the transversal waves, and that is the reason that the meters do not show any difference.
What these gizmo's do, is change the information of the *longitudinal waves* or *Tesla waves*. Most scientists do not want to know about it, so they don't know about it. In my gizmo, I just use longitudinal waves. It is the world's first Rife Frequency Therapy Device, which does not work with gas-filled lamps, or handelectrodes, or sound, but just with longitudinal waves. Its main goal is not to change the longitudinal waves coming from elektrosmog sources, but to repair the damaged immune system. The BioProtect card also changes the information of longitudinal waves. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: KathyB To: [hidden email] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:50 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Charles, Are you talking about cel-factor? www cel -factor.com/the-science/clinicalstudies/ cutcat.com/docs/tecnostudies.pdf CMO (Compensatory Magnetic Oscillation) / T.A.O. (Technology of ..... In reality it is not conceivable to stop the technological development of electronic products ... EMF from equipment used by the public, show that it is possible to reduce the ... At the biophysical level; the disruptive effects of EMF on ionic exchanges. 7 ... Or this one below? Kathy Dear Team of EMFOFF My name is Frank Albrecht, I work as Feng Shui practitioner and Holistic Health Researcher in Ireland. I just came across your website which I found very good. I have been examining houses for Feng SHui, geopathic stress and electromagnetic fields here in Ireland since the last 9 years – using different methods. One method I like to use are Bio-Resonance measurements of the negative information that is transmitted through walls inside a house, from mobile phone and wifi masts. With the aid of this methods I was able to proof the efficiency of a protective device. UNfortunately many of the devices that claim to be protective against EMF are not very efficient. End of last year a German author, alternative scientist, Feng Shui expert explained to me that he had developed a device (a small disc) that would clear all geopathic stress in a house (to over 90%) and the negative biological effects of EMF (to over 90%). I got this device sent and did my Bio- Resonance examinations with it, and the results were more then amazing. This device completely (to over 90 – 95%) alters the negative information of the Electromagnetic Fields as a result they loose their health damaging effects. A reduction of the technical EMF’s does not happen. In all the previous years I had never come across a device that works so efficiently – and I tested many of them. All gridnetworks in the house were completely gone and streams and underground faults were rendered harmless. The effects of EMF are all turned into positive energy. The effects of this go far beyond devices that are known on the Uk and Irish markets. After the research I did, I made the immediate decision to become importer for this device for the UK and Ireland. At present I am interested to find partners for the marketing in the UK. If you are interested to know more about it, I would be looking forward to hearing from you. With kind Regards, Frank Albrecht http://www.thelife.ie -- From: charles <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 1:48 PM I have them here (in my collection of gizmo's). Originally they were developed by a Belgian professor. And he told me, that in the beginning he sold the material to this company, who started trying to copy it, with no success. That was years ago, and now nobody talks about it. The successor is the CMO products. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: jpnordica To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:36 Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html jp --- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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What is the significance of the "longitudinal waves" and how do they effect and benefit us?
And how does it "repair the damaged immune system"? blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > Most devices or gizmo's who may give a relief do NOTHING to the transversal waves, and that is the reason that the meters do not show any difference. > > What these gizmo's do, is change the information of the *longitudinal waves* or *Tesla waves*. Most scientists do not want to know about it, so they don't know about it. > > In my gizmo, I just use longitudinal waves. It is the world's first Rife Frequency Therapy Device, which does not work with gas-filled lamps, or handelectrodes, or sound, but just with longitudinal waves. > Its main goal is not to change the longitudinal waves coming from elektrosmog sources, but to repair the damaged immune system. > > The BioProtect card also changes the information of longitudinal waves. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by NIS2012 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: KathyB > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:50 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > > > Charles, > > Are you talking about cel-factor? www cel -factor.com/the-science/clinicalstudies/ > > cutcat.com/docs/tecnostudies.pdf > CMO (Compensatory Magnetic Oscillation) / T.A.O. (Technology of ..... In reality it is not conceivable to stop the technological development of electronic products ... EMF from equipment used by the public, show that it is possible to reduce the ... At the biophysical level; the disruptive effects of EMF on ionic exchanges. 7 ... > Or this one below? Kathy > > Dear Team of EMFOFF > My name is Frank Albrecht, I work as Feng Shui practitioner and > Holistic Health Researcher in Ireland. I just came across your website > which I found very good. > > I have been examining houses for Feng SHui, geopathic stress and > electromagnetic fields here in Ireland since the last 9 years â" using > different methods. One method I like to use are Bio-Resonance > measurements of the negative information that is transmitted through > walls inside a house, from mobile phone and wifi masts. With the aid of > this methods I was able to proof the efficiency of a protective device. > UNfortunately many of the devices that claim to be protective against > EMF are not very efficient. > > End of last year a German author, alternative scientist, Feng Shui > expert explained to me that he had developed a device (a small disc) > that would clear all geopathic stress in a house (to over 90%) and the > negative biological effects of EMF (to over 90%). I got this device sent > and did my Bio- Resonance examinations with it, and the results were > more then amazing. > > This device completely (to over 90 â" 95%) alters the negative > information of the Electromagnetic Fields as a result they loose their > health damaging effects. A reduction of the technical EMFâs does not > happen. In all the previous years I had never come across a device that > works so efficiently â" and I tested many of them. All gridnetworks in > the house were completely gone and streams and underground faults were > rendered harmless. The effects of EMF are all turned into positive > energy. The effects of this go far beyond devices that are known on the > Uk and Irish markets. > > After the research I did, I made the immediate decision to become > importer for this device for the UK and Ireland. At present I am > interested to find partners for the marketing in the UK. If you are > interested to know more about it, I would be looking forward to hearing > from you. > With kind Regards, > > Frank Albrecht > > http://www.thelife.ie > > > > -- > > From: charles <charles@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 1:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have them here (in my collection of gizmo's). > > > > Originally they were developed by a Belgian professor. > > And he told me, that in the beginning he sold the material to this company, who started trying to copy it, with no success. > > > > That was years ago, and now nobody talks about it. > > > > The successor is the CMO products. > > > > Greetings, > > Charles Claessens > > member Verband Baubiologie > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > www.milieuziektes.be > > www.hetbitje.nl > > checked by NIS2012 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: jpnordica > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:36 > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > > > > has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html > > > > jp > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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