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blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On July 26, bestsurprise2 <surpriseshan2@...> wrote: > > Dose it matter what frequency the laser is? I use a healing red laser everyday > > Not sure if it matters what kind of laser it is or not... you could always try > out the laser you have, and see if it helps anything. I think you just > wave it around the room, as it is the "coherence" in the laser beam > that is supposed to leave a lingering coherence wherever the beam > has passed through. > > Marc > |
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> Dose it matter what frequency the laser is? I found a web page that talks about EMF clearing via laser: http://www.satorihealingcenter.com/store/Quantum-Laser-EMF-Clearing.html Marc |
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On July 26, bestsurprise2 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I use a healing red laser everyday to get rid of pain, > as well as to treat my eyes after being zapped I thought you weren't supposed to point a laser at your eyes? Marc |
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Well just like one needs to be careful how much they believe that they hear on TV , on read in the newspaper. so to one has to be careful on the internet too. I have found that clue to look for is if a subject or whatever is controversial then hold any decision about truth or reliability until one learns the ins and out of the controversy........anyhow that is what I do now..........
I have also learned that if a health professional says something is dangerous or damaging that seems to contradict something else they have said, or just does not 'feel' right - ask for studies, etc....if they cannot or will not give studies then at best they are just parroting something they were told .....at worse are deliberately giving out misinformation for one reason or another.......... I treated and cured infections in my eyes that has been there for over 3 & a half years -- I had Lyme disease and could not permanently get rid of the eye infections even after having got rid of the bacteria for Lyme and also the co-infection called Bartonella. At one point I was on 2 different antibiotics everyday for 13 months - that was when I got eye infections in both eyes.I got my laser last August and it took less then 2 weeks to cure the infections in my eyes -- in studies the red low level or cold laser with a frequency of 635 nmn has shown in studies that this frequency kills bacteria and is more effective then any other laser frequency. The blue/violet healing lasers also kill bacteria - this has been proved too however it has not been compared against the 635 nm frequency to see which is more effective. Blue light destroys antibiotic-resistant staph infection http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/30/content_10735134.htm With lasers you can use them on your eyes if one keeps the eyelid closed while treating with the laser. I have been using lasers on my eyes every single day since last September when my vision would go blurry and grey when I would get zapped by the smart meters on my house. I am actually quite amazed by the huba-baloo about using lasers on the eyes - I find it hard to imagine anyone keeping their eyes open while they shine the laser right into the pupils of the eyes. It is true that if you shine a laser into the pupil of the eyes then the laser supposedly can cause damage to the retina..however as far as I know this has never happened and is just theory......though personally I would not test the theory to see if it is true.... How safe or dangerous a laser is depends on the frequency it uses as well as the power output. However if one falls asleep with laser still on them it is possible that some frequencies that would normally be considered to be harmless could cause damage . Any kind of laser is not a toy - they are not for children to play with , not even healing lasers. Among other things lasers are used to treat and cure -- yes, cure -- cataracts, muscular degeneration, and more. Just google eyes and lasers.. In these 2 studies alone are 58 references concerning using lasers and eyes....... I treated and cured infections in my eyes that has been there for over 3 & a half years -- I had Lyme disease and could not permanently get rid of the eye infections even after having got rid of the bacteria for Lyme and also the co-infection called Bartonella. At one point I was on 2 different antibiotics everyday for 13 months - that was when I got eye infections in both eyes. Mitochondrial signal transduction in accelerated wound and retinal healing by near-infrared light therapy. Abstract -- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16120414 The prolonged effect of 3 brief LED treatments in mediating the retinoprotective actions in methanol intoxication suggests that 670 nm LED photostimulation induces a cascade of signaling events initiated by the initial absorption of light by cytochrome oxidase. Complete study - These signaling events may include the activation of immediate early genes, transcription factors, cytochrome oxidase subunit gene expression and a host of other enzymes and pathways related to increased oxidative metabolism. 25 References PDF file -- http://www.lighttherapysystems.eu/images/AcceleratedHealing.pdf Photobiomodulation for the Treatment of Retinal Injury and Retinal Degenerative Diseases Mitochondrial dysfunction and oxidative stress play key roles in the pathogenesis of retinal injury and disease. The development and testing of strategies designed to improve mitochondrial function and attenuate oxidative stress are essential for combating retinal disease. One strategy involves the use of photobiomodulation. Low energy photon irradiation by light in the far-red to near-infrared (NIR) range (630-1000 nm) using low energy lasers or light-emitting diode (LED) arrays (collectively termed photobiomodulation) has been shown to accelerate wound healing, improve recovery from ischemic injury in the heart and attenuate degeneration in the injured retina and optic nerve (5,12). Photobiomodulation, low-energy photon irradiation by light in the far-red to nearinfrared (NIR) range using low energy lasers or light-emitting diode (LED) arrays, has been applied clinically in the treatment soft tissue injuries and acceleration of wound healing for more than 30 years. The therapeutic effects of photobiomodulation have been hypothesized to be mediated by intracellular signaling mechanisms triggered by the interaction of far-red to NIR photons with the mitochondrial photoacceptor molecule cytochrome oxidase which culminate in improved mitochondrial energy metabolism, increased synthesis of cytoprotective factors and cell survival. 30 References http://www.warp-photomedicine.com/EellsPBM_Proceedings.pdf EYES, SAFETY & LASERS: Q: Can therapeutic lasers damage the eye? A: Yes and no! Any strong light source - laser or not - can injure an eye. There are strong lasers that can cut in plastic and even steel. They can injure eyes and tissue, but laser pointers and therapeutic laser can normally not. Read more below: Read http://www.slms.org/blind.pdf http://www.laser.nu/lllt/Faq1.htm Eyes, Safety & Lasers What lasers can make you blind? http://www.slms.org/blind.pdf LEDs heal similarly to lasers however are not lasers --- LEDs are actually safer then lasers too -they will not under any circumstances damage eyes, not even only in theory. LEDs are less expensive then lasers too - there is a lot of controversy about lasers versus LEDs . Some people feel that lasers are more effective an others swear by the LEDs. I still haven't been able to decide what I believe - though I just 'feel' better using lasers for healing.. LED Light Therapy for Eyes LEDs aren't strong enough to cause damage to tissue yet the light provides the energy for the body to heal itself. Positive results are occurring in the treatment of eye conditions. Optic nerves and retinal cells were dying. When treated with LEDs, using a wavelength of 670 nanometers five, 25 and 50 hours after exposure, they regained up to 95 percent of their eyesight. Exposure to the LEDs was for 105 seconds at a time. Macular degeneration is a condition of the eye that can detach the retina, causing blindness. Dr. Charles McGee used an LED for 10 minutes in each eye of a patient. Performing the treatment for 10 minutes each day over the course of a few months, the patient's vision improved dramatically. The Mayo Clinic studies - results indicated that devices such as lasers and LEDs are more the mechanism of healing and not the cause of healing. The positive healing results are directly from the effect of light and not the delivery method. LEDs are considered less harmful to tissue than laser treatments. http://www.ehow.com/way_5914974_led-light-therapy-eyes.html blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On July 26, bestsurprise2 <surpriseshan2@...> wrote: > > I use a healing red laser everyday to get rid of pain, > > as well as to treat my eyes after being zapped > > I thought you weren't supposed to point a laser > at your eyes? > > Marc > |
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By the way, neither Lasers nor LEDs heal the body -- they just stimulate the body to heal itself...........this is partly why they are so safe............However some Laser/LED frequencies are more effective at stimulating healing then others because they are better absorbed by the body and/or the frequencies go deeper into the body.........
blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], "bestsurprise2" <surpriseshan2@...> wrote: > > Well just like one needs to be careful how much they believe that they hear on TV , on read in the newspaper. so to one has to be careful on the internet too. I have found that clue to look for is if a subject or whatever is controversial then hold any decision about truth or reliability until one learns the ins and out of the controversy........anyhow that is what I do now.......... > > I have also learned that if a health professional says something is dangerous or damaging that seems to contradict something else they have said, or just does not 'feel' right - ask for studies, etc....if they cannot or will not give studies then at best they are just parroting something they were told .....at worse are deliberately giving out misinformation for one reason or another.......... > > I treated and cured infections in my eyes that has been there for over 3 & a half years -- I had Lyme disease and could not permanently get rid of the eye infections even after having got rid of the bacteria for Lyme and also the co-infection called Bartonella. At one point I was on 2 different antibiotics everyday for 13 months - that was when I got eye infections in both eyes.I got my laser last August and it took less then 2 weeks to cure the infections in my eyes -- in studies the red low level or cold laser with a frequency of 635 nmn has shown in studies that this frequency kills bacteria and is more effective then any other laser frequency. The blue/violet healing lasers also kill bacteria - this has been proved too however it has not been compared against the 635 nm frequency to see which is more effective. > > Blue light destroys antibiotic-resistant staph infection > http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-01/30/content_10735134.htm > > > With lasers you can use them on your eyes if one keeps the eyelid closed while treating with the laser. I have been using lasers on my eyes every single day since last September when my vision would go blurry and grey when I would get zapped by the smart meters on my house. I am actually quite amazed by the huba-baloo about using lasers on the eyes - I find it hard to imagine anyone keeping their eyes open while they shine the laser right into the pupils of the eyes. It is true that if you shine a laser into the pupil of the eyes then the laser supposedly can cause damage to the retina..however as far as I know this has never happened and is just theory......though personally I would not test the theory to see if it is true.... How safe or dangerous a laser is depends on the frequency it uses as well as the power output. However if one falls asleep with laser still on them it is possible that some frequencies that would normally be considered to be harmless could cause damage . Any kind of laser is not a toy - they are not for children to play with , not even healing lasers. > > > Among other things lasers are used to treat and cure -- yes, cure -- cataracts, muscular degeneration, and more. Just google eyes and lasers.. > In these 2 studies alone are 58 references concerning using lasers and eyes....... > > I treated and cured infections in my eyes that has been there for over 3 & a half years -- I had Lyme disease and could not permanently get rid of the eye infections even after having got rid of the bacteria for Lyme and also the co-infection called Bartonella. At one point I was on 2 different antibiotics everyday for 13 months - that was when I got eye infections in both eyes. > > > Mitochondrial signal transduction in accelerated wound and retinal healing by near-infrared light therapy. > Abstract -- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16120414 > The prolonged effect of 3 brief LED treatments in mediating the retinoprotective actions in methanol > intoxication suggests that 670 nm LED photostimulation induces a cascade of signaling events initiated by the initial absorption of light by cytochrome oxidase. > Complete study - These signaling events may include the activation of immediate early genes, transcription factors, cytochrome oxidase subunit gene expression and a host of other enzymes and pathways related to increased oxidative metabolism. 25 References > PDF file -- > http://www.lighttherapysystems.eu/images/AcceleratedHealing.pdf > > Photobiomodulation for the Treatment of Retinal Injury and Retinal Degenerative Diseases > Mitochondrial dysfunction and oxidative stress play key roles in the pathogenesis of retinal injury and disease. The development and testing of strategies designed to improve mitochondrial function and attenuate oxidative stress are essential for combating retinal disease. One strategy involves the use of photobiomodulation. Low energy photon irradiation by light in the far-red to near-infrared (NIR) range (630-1000 nm) using low energy lasers or light-emitting diode (LED) arrays (collectively termed photobiomodulation) has been shown to accelerate wound healing, improve recovery from ischemic injury in the heart and attenuate degeneration in the injured retina and optic nerve (5,12). > Photobiomodulation, low-energy photon irradiation by light in the far-red to nearinfrared (NIR) range using low energy lasers or light-emitting diode (LED) arrays, has been applied clinically in the treatment soft tissue injuries and acceleration of wound healing for more than 30 years. The therapeutic effects of photobiomodulation have been hypothesized to be mediated by intracellular signaling mechanisms triggered by the interaction of far-red to NIR photons with the mitochondrial photoacceptor molecule cytochrome oxidase which culminate in improved mitochondrial energy metabolism, increased synthesis of cytoprotective factors and cell survival. > 30 References > http://www.warp-photomedicine.com/EellsPBM_Proceedings.pdf > > > EYES, SAFETY & LASERS: > Q: Can therapeutic lasers damage the eye? > A: Yes and no! > Any strong light source - laser or not - can injure an eye. There are strong lasers that can cut in plastic and even steel. They can injure eyes and tissue, but laser pointers and therapeutic laser can normally not. Read more below: Read http://www.slms.org/blind.pdf > http://www.laser.nu/lllt/Faq1.htm > > Eyes, Safety & Lasers > What lasers can make you blind? > http://www.slms.org/blind.pdf > > > LEDs heal similarly to lasers however are not lasers --- LEDs are actually safer then lasers too -they will not under any circumstances damage eyes, not even only in theory. LEDs are less expensive then lasers too - there is a lot of controversy about lasers versus LEDs . Some people feel that lasers are more effective an others swear by the LEDs. I still haven't been able to decide what I believe - though I just 'feel' better using lasers for healing.. > > > LED Light Therapy for Eyes > LEDs aren't strong enough to cause damage to tissue yet the light provides the energy for the body to heal itself. Positive results are occurring in the treatment of eye conditions. > Optic nerves and retinal cells were dying. When treated with LEDs, using a wavelength of 670 nanometers five, 25 and 50 hours after exposure, they regained up to 95 percent of their eyesight. Exposure to the LEDs was for 105 seconds at a time. > Macular degeneration is a condition of the eye that can detach the retina, causing blindness. > Dr. Charles McGee used an LED for 10 minutes in each eye of a patient. Performing the treatment for 10 minutes each day over the course of a few months, the patient's vision improved dramatically. > The Mayo Clinic studies - results indicated that devices such as lasers and LEDs are more the mechanism of healing and not the cause of healing. The positive healing results are directly from the effect of light and not the delivery method. LEDs are considered less harmful to tissue than laser treatments. > http://www.ehow.com/way_5914974_led-light-therapy-eyes.html > > blessings > Shan > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@> wrote: > > > > On July 26, bestsurprise2 <surpriseshan2@> wrote: > > > I use a healing red laser everyday to get rid of pain, > > > as well as to treat my eyes after being zapped > > > > I thought you weren't supposed to point a laser > > at your eyes? > > > > Marc > > > |
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the card does not do anything for me.
--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > I do know a great many people who benefit from their BioProtect card. > > However, it may be, that the volume of the elektrosmog is too great, or that the elektrosensitivity potential is too great that a BioProtect card is not enough. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by NIS2012 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephanie Smith > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 17:36 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > > > I wear a bioprotect card on the body but still feel dreadful ES symptoms - which fluctuate in intensity - inside the house and even in the garden. So is it helping me? or do i need something else? > > Steph > > > ________________________________ > From: charles <charles@...> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 8:29 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > > > > Most devices or gizmo's who may give a relief do NOTHING to the transversal waves, and that is the reason that the meters do not show any difference. > > What these gizmo's do, is change the information of the *longitudinal waves* or *Tesla waves*. Most scientists do not want to know about it, so they don't know about it. > > In my gizmo, I just use longitudinal waves. It is the world's first Rife Frequency Therapy Device, which does not work with gas-filled lamps, or handelectrodes, or sound, but just with longitudinal waves. > Its main goal is not to change the longitudinal waves coming from elektrosmog sources, but to repair the damaged immune system. > > The BioProtect card also changes the information of longitudinal waves. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by NIS2012 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: KathyB > To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:50 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > > Charles, > > Are you talking about cel-factor? www cel -factor.com/the-science/clinicalstudies/ > > cutcat.com/docs/tecnostudies.pdf > CMO (Compensatory Magnetic Oscillation) / T.A.O. (Technology of ..... In reality it is not conceivable to stop the technological development of electronic products ... EMF from equipment used by the public, show that it is possible to reduce the ... At the biophysical level; the disruptive effects of EMF on ionic exchanges. 7 ... > Or this one below? Kathy > > Dear Team of EMFOFF > My name is Frank Albrecht, I work as Feng Shui practitioner and > Holistic Health Researcher in Ireland. I just came across your website > which I found very good. > > I have been examining houses for Feng SHui, geopathic stress and > electromagnetic fields here in Ireland since the last 9 years â" using > different methods. One method I like to use are Bio-Resonance > measurements of the negative information that is transmitted through > walls inside a house, from mobile phone and wifi masts. With the aid of > this methods I was able to proof the efficiency of a protective device. > UNfortunately many of the devices that claim to be protective against > EMF are not very efficient. > > End of last year a German author, alternative scientist, Feng Shui > expert explained to me that he had developed a device (a small disc) > that would clear all geopathic stress in a house (to over 90%) and the > negative biological effects of EMF (to over 90%). I got this device sent > and did my Bio- Resonance examinations with it, and the results were > more then amazing. > > This device completely (to over 90 â" 95%) alters the negative > information of the Electromagnetic Fields as a result they loose their > health damaging effects. A reduction of the technical EMFâs does not > happen. In all the previous years I had never come across a device that > works so efficiently â" and I tested many of them. All gridnetworks in > the house were completely gone and streams and underground faults were > rendered harmless. The effects of EMF are all turned into positive > energy. The effects of this go far beyond devices that are known on the > Uk and Irish markets. > > After the research I did, I made the immediate decision to become > importer for this device for the UK and Ireland. At present I am > interested to find partners for the marketing in the UK. If you are > interested to know more about it, I would be looking forward to hearing > from you. > With kind Regards, > > Frank Albrecht > > http://www.thelife.ie/ > > -- > > From: charles <mailto:charles%40milieuziektes.be> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 1:48 PM > > I have them here (in my collection of gizmo's). > > Originally they were developed by a Belgian professor. > > And he told me, that in the beginning he sold the material to this company, who started trying to copy it, with no success. > > That was years ago, and now nobody talks about it. > > The successor is the CMO products. > > Greetings, > > Charles Claessens > > member Verband Baubiologie > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > www.milieuziektes.be > > www.hetbitje.nl > > checked by NIS2012 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: jpnordica > > To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:36 > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed > > has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html > > jp > > --- > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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It does make a difference! Amazing.......
I just used my ordinary red laser which has the same frequency as the laser the adveritise and say though that it will not work to clear the frequencies if it is not adjusted by them...........what they charge is ridiculous ! Just get an red laser with a frequency of 635nm and a power output of 5mw. You can get a fairly good one for less then $100.00 not 3 times as much as that website sells one for.Or you can go to Amazon and get a cheap laser at that same frequency and power for about $20.00 blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On July 26, bestsurprise2 <surpriseshan2@...> wrote: > > Dose it matter what frequency the laser is? I use a healing red laser everyday > > Not sure if it matters what kind of laser it is or not... you could always try > out the laser you have, and see if it helps anything. I think you just > wave it around the room, as it is the "coherence" in the laser beam > that is supposed to leave a lingering coherence wherever the beam > has passed through. > > Marc > |
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On July 27, bestsurprise2 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It does make a difference! Amazing....... > I just used my ordinary red laser which has the same frequency as the > laser the advertise and say though that it will not work to clear the > frequencies if it is not adjusted by them...........what they charge > is ridiculous! Yes, I was wondering about their "special adjustment", and whether or not it is really needed. Seems like if the major benefit is from the coherent light, then a wide variety of lasers would work. So what kind of difference does the laser make? Marc |
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I feel calmer - if that makes any sense...... Yesterday and today I haven't even been wearing my head covering all the time - especially yesterday . But last night I started thinking that regardless if I react to the frequencies from the cell towers and smart meters or not - the frequencies are still there and still causing biological damage so it might be smarter to continue to take precautions and continue with the head coverings........... Plus I am trying to get my memory back and improve my cognitive functions to what they were. so it would be best to still protect myself.
But I don't feel as generally anxious and discombobulated and sort of hyper... I do seem to be reacting to something that I was not aware of before however. Yesterday and today 3 or 4 times it has felt as if something was pricking my skin....... And I downloaded that program a couple of days ago - and now my eye do not get sore when I am on the computer anymore...........I feel calmer when I am on the computer now too....... this is wonderful. Now I know I have been on the computer too long as my fingers have become spastic and I have a hard time hitting the correct keys on the keyboard.......... That expert I had assess my house for frequencies said that he could hardly hear the smart meters [3 of them] because the cell tower [10 of them]frequencies were making so much noise........... many blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On July 27, bestsurprise2 <surpriseshan2@...> wrote: > > It does make a difference! Amazing....... > > I just used my ordinary red laser which has the same frequency as the > > laser the advertise and say though that it will not work to clear the > > frequencies if it is not adjusted by them...........what they charge > > is ridiculous! > > Yes, I was wondering about their "special adjustment", and whether > or not it is really needed. Seems like if the major benefit is > from the coherent light, then a wide variety of lasers would > work. > > So what kind of difference does the laser make? > > Marc > |
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Shan,
Wow, this is amazing progress. So you downloaded the quantum program & used her red laser around the house? Congratulations! Please share more. Kathy - <[hidden email]> wrote: : [eSens] Re: quantum It does make a difference! Amazing....... I just used my ordinary red laser which has the same frequency as the laser the adveritise and say though that it will not work to clear the frequencies if it is not adjusted by them...........what they charge is ridiculous ! Just get an red laser with a frequency of 635nm and a power output of 5mw. You can get a fairly good one for less then $100.00 not 3 times as much as that website sells one for.Or you can go to Amazon and get a cheap laser at that same frequency and power for about $20.00 blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On July 26, bestsurprise2 <surpriseshan2@...> wrote: > > Dose it matter what frequency the laser is? I use a healing red laser everyday > > Not sure if it matters what kind of laser it is or not... you could always try > out the laser you have, . I think you just > wave it around the room, as it is the "coherence" in the laser beam > that is supposed to leave a lingering coherence wherever the beam > has passed through. > > Marc > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Shan,
You're improvement is amazing. Are we looking for laser pointers to pay less? Read about this co. Sure they charge more. http://www.thorlaser.com/. Kathy From: bestsurprise2 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: quantum It does make a difference! Amazing....... I just used my ordinary red laser which has the same frequency as the laser the adveritise and say though that it will not work to clear the frequencies if it is not adjusted by them...........what they charge is ridiculous ! Just get an red laser with a frequency of 635nm and a power output of 5mw. You can get a fairly good one for less then $100.00 not 3 times as much as that website sells one for.Or you can go to Amazon and get a cheap laser at that same frequency and power for about $20.00 blessings Shan - [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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You do not need large lasers such as at the url you posted. They are also very expensive. I have actually looked at those lasers and even if I could afford them , I would not buy one mainly because of the high power output they have. Some people think that the higher power will heal quicker but this is not true - these lasers do NOT do the healing, your body heals itself - the lasers just stimulate the cells to heal; you can think of it as jump starting the battery on a car, or even having a cup of coffee can stimulate a person to get going in the morning. Plis there is what I call "gentle" stimulation and getting hit over the head -- if the aim is to heal something it does not help to damage the tissue in trying to get it started healing. Low level or "cold" lasers are safe -- they will not burn you or harm you or harm biological tissue - they can take longer to heal then a high power or infrared light but they will not burn you if you forget to turn it off for some reason or use it on one spot too long etc. "Theoretically" the cold lasers are not safe to beam directly into the pupil of the eyes-but otherwise even the FDA considers them safe ....and do not give them to children to play with either.
What you are looking for are red lasers that have a frequency of 635nm -- this is the frequency of healthy living cells in your body. And you need the power output to be 5mw only - higher then that and they are not as safe and lower then that and they are less effective at stimulating healing of tissues in the body. At amazon.com you will find several red lasers with this frequency and power output. In fact right now for $38.00 you can get a pretty good red laser with 635nm frequency and 5mw power output that has a 2 year warranty and an on and off button too . Red Laser - 635nm and 5mw power output 38.00 http://shop.z-bolt.com/635nm-Red-Laser-Pointers--Constant-OnOff-Switch-Function_p_206.html?gdftrk=gdfV25268_a_7c1640_a_7c6346_a_7cBTE_d_4SE - they are on sale at the moment ..........I came across this when I was looking into getting a green low level laser to restructure my body plus get rid of a couple of food,dust and wood allergies. I plan to use the protocol recommended by Dr Klinghardt using vials and a copper T to hold the vials. I prefer to keep my red lasers mostly for healing plus inflammation and pain -- I am finding that RF Microwave Radiation frequencies cause a lot of pain and I am going through a lot of batteries.... I even just keep one if my purse to get rid of headaches and blurry vision when I am out. For the purpose of just beaming the laser around the room, you must be sure that what you are getting is a laser made using laser diodes not LED diodes- Do not get what is called an LED laser - the LED diodes or light have the same healing effects as true lasers but they differ in the way the light energy is delivered as well as other ways too --for example, LEDs do NOT produce Coherent or Collimated Light and they emit a light that has wide-angle Diffusion. Coherent (all the light waves are in lock step) and Collimnated [ all the light beams are parallel } You can actually find laers for around 10 to 20 dollars = however they usually will not have a warranty plus do not have an on and off button or switch. So you have to hold the "on" button down the whole time you are using it - this does not sound that bad but I found it is a pain in the neck === plus I don't trust most companies that do not give a warranty. In my perception it is as if they expect their product to croke/fall apart any minute........ If you want to learn about how healing lasers assist healing or get rid of pain or that get rid of allergies etc let me know - I have researching lasers and using them since last summer. blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote: > > Shan, > > You're improvement is amazing. Are we looking for laser pointers to pay less? > > Read about this co. Sure they charge more. > > http://www.thorlaser.com/. > > Kathy > > > > From: bestsurprise2 <surpriseshan2@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: quantum > It does make a difference! Amazing....... > > I just used my ordinary red laser which has the same frequency as the laser the adveritise and say though that it will not work to clear the frequencies if it is not adjusted by them...........what they charge is ridiculous ! Just get an red laser with a frequency of 635nm and a power output of 5mw. You can get a fairly good one for less then $100.00 not 3 times as much as that website sells one for.Or you can go to Amazon and get a cheap laser at that same frequency and power for about $20.00 > > > > blessings > > Shan > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Kathy , I feel better but that is not saying I feel wonderful -- I do hope to feel almost back to normal once I get my bed canopy assembled and the ceilings painted with EMF paint however. At least my body will be able to heal then.
However that will also be the end of my money for the next 10 years so hope it does the trick. I am still hoping/planning on making a laser helmet to repair damage in my head and brain -- at the moment it doesn't look as if I will have any money left to make this helmet but I am still hoping.......... I have had MCS since 1988 and it took me over a decade before I learned how to greatly minimize my symptoms, besides avoidance - but I did find what worked for me....and I have absolutely no intention of putting up with the damage these frequencies cause forever. Though when I am counting my blessings, in one way it is a good thing that I have become electro-hypersensitive - I would not have realized how much biological damage these frequencies do cause otherwise..I just would have thought that the frequencies were not causing any damage because I did not have any reactions I understood. blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote: > > Shan, > > Wow, this is amazing progress. > > > So you downloaded the quantum program & used her red laser around the house? > > Congratulations! Please share more. > > Kathy > > > > - >  <surpriseshan2@...> wrote: > : [eSens] Re: quantum > > > It does make a difference! Amazing....... > > I just used my ordinary red laser which has the same frequency as the laser the adveritise and say though that it will not work to clear the frequencies if it is not adjusted by them...........what they charge is ridiculous ! Just get an red laser with a frequency of 635nm and a power output of 5mw. You can get a fairly good one for less then $100.00 not 3 times as much as that website sells one for.Or you can go to Amazon and get a cheap laser at that same frequency and power for about $20.00 > > > > blessings > > Shan > > > > --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@> wrote: > > > > > > On July 26, bestsurprise2 <surpriseshan2@> wrote: > > > > Dose it matter what frequency the laser is? I use a healing red laser everyday > > > > > > Not sure if it matters what kind of laser it is or not... you could always try > > > out the laser you have, > . I think you just > > > wave it around the room, as it is the "coherence" in the laser beam > > > that is supposed to leave a lingering coherence wherever the beam > > > has passed through. > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Shan,
Wow, 22 yrs is a long time to suffer from MCS. When did you start w ES? For me it was 2009 but worse in 2010 w 4G. I have MCS too. Do you go through feeling like any scented smell goes straight to your head, stronger than it should? You might not want to paint your walls. There have been many who felt worse, b/c some RF gets trapped & keeps bouncing off the walls. I would like to hear about the lazar helmet idea. I'd like to order a small lazar soon. It may be able to heal some of the nerve damage I have. Kathy From: bestsurprise2 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: quantum Kathy , I feel better but that is not saying I feel wonderful -- I do hope to feel almost back to normal once I get my bed canopy assembled and the ceilings painted with EMF paint however. At least my body will be able to heal then. However that will also be the end of my money for the next 10 years so hope it does the trick. I am still hoping/planning on making a laser helmet to repair damage in my head and brain -- at the moment it doesn't look as if I will have any money left to make this helmet but I am still hoping.......... I have had MCS since 1988 and it took me over a decade before I learned how to greatly minimize my symptoms, besides avoidance - but I did find what worked for me....and I have absolutely no intention of putting up with the damage these frequencies cause forever. Though when I am counting my blessings, in one way it is a good thing that I have become electro-hypersensitive - I would not have realized how much biological damage these frequencies do cause otherwise..I just would have thought that the frequencies were not causing any damage because I did not have any reactions I understood. blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote: > > Shan, > > Wow, this is amazing progress. > > > So you downloaded the quantum program & used her red laser around the house? > > Congratulations! Please share more. > > Kathy > > > > - >  <surpriseshan2@...> wrote: > : [eSens] Re: quantum > > > It does make a difference! Amazing....... > > I just used my ordinary red laser which has the same frequency as the laser the adveritise and say though that it will not work to clear the frequencies if it is not adjusted by them...........what they charge is ridiculous ! Just get an red laser with a frequency of 635nm and a power output of 5mw. You can get a fairly good one for less then $100.00 not 3 times as much as that website sells one for.Or you can go to Amazon and get a cheap laser at that same frequency and power for about $20.00 > > > > blessings > > Shan > > > > --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@> wrote: > > > > > > On July 26, bestsurprise2 <surpriseshan2@> wrote: > > > > Dose it matter what frequency the laser is? I use a healing red laser everyday > > > > > > Not sure if it matters what kind of laser it is or not... you could always try > > > out the laser you have, > . I think you just > > > wave it around the room, as it is the "coherence" in the laser beam > > > that is supposed to leave a lingering coherence wherever the beam > > > has passed through. > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed
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Hi Marc
In answer to your question - it is hard to say since my ES seems to vary according to what is happening in the vicinity of my home environment I travelled to South Africa from the UK at Christmas - a flight I was dreading since the plane, in addition to the usual, had tv screens in each headrest and I am sure you can imagine the plethora of cell phones and ipads etc on a transatlantic flight - but I had almost no ES symptoms on either the flight out or the flight back. Also since I have got the card [had it about 3 years now] I have done a lot of detoxing and had some but not all of my metal fillings removed. As I say much depends on what is happening in the vicinity of my home environment.Until the last week or so things at home were okish. However, a neighbour is having building work done at the moment and has an electrician working on the house - his level of qualification and the safetly of his work is questionable. Someone else at the end of the road is digging up their front drive and today sliced through the electric cable which services all the houses in the road causing a power outage for most of the afternoon. I felt a lot of dirty electricity which was quite bad today and I if I can f eel it then it would suggest that the card isn't working for me, would that be right? Steph ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2012, 16:39 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed On July 26, Stephanie Smith <mailto:reader41%40ymail.com> wrote: > I wear a bioprotect card on the body but still feel dreadful ES symptoms - > which fluctuate in intensity - inside the house and even in the garden. > So is it helping me? or do i need something else? It doesn't sound like it's helping you... did you notice any change in ES symptoms at all? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Charles
if the electrosmog is too great or that the electrosensitivity potential is too great and a bioprotect card is not enough then can you suggest a device which might be of help in those situations? Thanks Steph ________________________________ From: charles <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2012, 19:45 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed I do know a great many people who benefit from their BioProtect card. However, it may be, that the volume of the elektrosmog is too great, or that the elektrosensitivity potential is too great that a BioProtect card is not enough. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephanie Smith To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 17:36 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed I wear a bioprotect card on the body but still feel dreadful ES symptoms - which fluctuate in intensity - inside the house and even in the garden. So is it helping me? or do i need something else? Steph ________________________________ From: charles <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 8:29 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Most devices or gizmo's who may give a relief do NOTHING to the transversal waves, and that is the reason that the meters do not show any difference. What these gizmo's do, is change the information of the *longitudinal waves* or *Tesla waves*. Most scientists do not want to know about it, so they don't know about it. In my gizmo, I just use longitudinal waves. It is the world's first Rife Frequency Therapy Device, which does not work with gas-filled lamps, or handelectrodes, or sound, but just with longitudinal waves. Its main goal is not to change the longitudinal waves coming from elektrosmog sources, but to repair the damaged immune system. The BioProtect card also changes the information of longitudinal waves. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: KathyB To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:50 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Charles, Are you talking about cel-factor? www cel -factor.com/the-science/clinicalstudies/ cutcat.com/docs/tecnostudies.pdf CMO (Compensatory Magnetic Oscillation) / T.A.O. (Technology of ..... In reality it is not conceivable to stop the technological development of electronic products ... EMF from equipment used by the public, show that it is possible to reduce the ... At the biophysical level; the disruptive effects of EMF on ionic exchanges. 7 ... Or this one below? Kathy Dear Team of EMFOFF My name is Frank Albrecht, I work as Feng Shui practitioner and Holistic Health Researcher in Ireland. I just came across your website which I found very good. I have been examining houses for Feng SHui, geopathic stress and electromagnetic fields here in Ireland since the last 9 years – using different methods. One method I like to use are Bio-Resonance measurements of the negative information that is transmitted through walls inside a house, from mobile phone and wifi masts. With the aid of this methods I was able to proof the efficiency of a protective device. UNfortunately many of the devices that claim to be protective against EMF are not very efficient. End of last year a German author, alternative scientist, Feng Shui expert explained to me that he had developed a device (a small disc) that would clear all geopathic stress in a house (to over 90%) and the negative biological effects of EMF (to over 90%). I got this device sent and did my Bio- Resonance examinations with it, and the results were more then amazing. This device completely (to over 90 – 95%) alters the negative information of the Electromagnetic Fields as a result they loose their health damaging effects. A reduction of the technical EMF’s does not happen. In all the previous years I had never come across a device that works so efficiently – and I tested many of them. All gridnetworks in the house were completely gone and streams and underground faults were rendered harmless. The effects of EMF are all turned into positive energy. The effects of this go far beyond devices that are known on the Uk and Irish markets. After the research I did, I made the immediate decision to become importer for this device for the UK and Ireland. At present I am interested to find partners for the marketing in the UK. If you are interested to know more about it, I would be looking forward to hearing from you. With kind Regards, Frank Albrecht http://www.thelife.ie/ -- From: charles <mailto:charles%40milieuziektes.be> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 1:48 PM I have them here (in my collection of gizmo's). Originally they were developed by a Belgian professor. And he told me, that in the beginning he sold the material to this company, who started trying to copy it, with no success. That was years ago, and now nobody talks about it. The successor is the CMO products. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: jpnordica To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:36 Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html jp --- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hello Steph,
you should lower the amount of elektrosmog by shielding, and you should reinforce and repair your immune system. For that I have written my 25 points plan. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephanie Smith To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Charles if the electrosmog is too great or that the electrosensitivity potential is too great and a bioprotect card is not enough then can you suggest a device which might be of help in those situations? Thanks Steph ________________________________ From: charles <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2012, 19:45 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed I do know a great many people who benefit from their BioProtect card. However, it may be, that the volume of the elektrosmog is too great, or that the elektrosensitivity potential is too great that a BioProtect card is not enough. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephanie Smith To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 17:36 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed I wear a bioprotect card on the body but still feel dreadful ES symptoms - which fluctuate in intensity - inside the house and even in the garden. So is it helping me? or do i need something else? Steph ________________________________ From: charles <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 8:29 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Most devices or gizmo's who may give a relief do NOTHING to the transversal waves, and that is the reason that the meters do not show any difference. What these gizmo's do, is change the information of the *longitudinal waves* or *Tesla waves*. Most scientists do not want to know about it, so they don't know about it. In my gizmo, I just use longitudinal waves. It is the world's first Rife Frequency Therapy Device, which does not work with gas-filled lamps, or handelectrodes, or sound, but just with longitudinal waves. Its main goal is not to change the longitudinal waves coming from elektrosmog sources, but to repair the damaged immune system. The BioProtect card also changes the information of longitudinal waves. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: KathyB To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:50 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed Charles, Are you talking about cel-factor? www cel -factor.com/the-science/clinicalstudies/ cutcat.com/docs/tecnostudies.pdf CMO (Compensatory Magnetic Oscillation) / T.A.O. (Technology of ..... In reality it is not conceivable to stop the technological development of electronic products ... EMF from equipment used by the public, show that it is possible to reduce the ... At the biophysical level; the disruptive effects of EMF on ionic exchanges. 7 ... Or this one below? Kathy Dear Team of EMFOFF My name is Frank Albrecht, I work as Feng Shui practitioner and Holistic Health Researcher in Ireland. I just came across your website which I found very good. I have been examining houses for Feng SHui, geopathic stress and electromagnetic fields here in Ireland since the last 9 years – using different methods. One method I like to use are Bio-Resonance measurements of the negative information that is transmitted through walls inside a house, from mobile phone and wifi masts. With the aid of this methods I was able to proof the efficiency of a protective device. UNfortunately many of the devices that claim to be protective against EMF are not very efficient. End of last year a German author, alternative scientist, Feng Shui expert explained to me that he had developed a device (a small disc) that would clear all geopathic stress in a house (to over 90%) and the negative biological effects of EMF (to over 90%). I got this device sent and did my Bio- Resonance examinations with it, and the results were more then amazing. This device completely (to over 90 – 95%) alters the negative information of the Electromagnetic Fields as a result they loose their health damaging effects. A reduction of the technical EMF’s does not happen. In all the previous years I had never come across a device that works so efficiently – and I tested many of them. All gridnetworks in the house were completely gone and streams and underground faults were rendered harmless. The effects of EMF are all turned into positive energy. The effects of this go far beyond devices that are known on the Uk and Irish markets. After the research I did, I made the immediate decision to become importer for this device for the UK and Ireland. At present I am interested to find partners for the marketing in the UK. If you are interested to know more about it, I would be looking forward to hearing from you. With kind Regards, Frank Albrecht http://www.thelife.ie/ -- From: charles <mailto:charles%40milieuziektes.be> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 1:48 PM I have them here (in my collection of gizmo's). Originally they were developed by a Belgian professor. And he told me, that in the beginning he sold the material to this company, who started trying to copy it, with no success. That was years ago, and now nobody talks about it. The successor is the CMO products. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by NIS2012 ----- Original Message ----- From: jpnordica To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:36 Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? 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