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ESther
I have a CRT monitor.  Do you think this would work?  (Can't tolerate  
the LED ones).

Esther


On Jul 23, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Marc Martin wrote:

> On July 23, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > It doesn't WORK. Even George Carlos who helped market this
> > product admitted later the product did NOT work.
> > http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html
>
> I think you're confusing EMF protection devices, Lizzie.
> Carlos was associated with BioPro, not this.
>
> Although this product doesn't look particularly relevant
> in today's world, as it looks like it was designed for
> a cathode ray tube monitor (not LCD)
>
> Marc
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Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

ESther
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
Thanks Marc!

Esther


On Jul 22, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Marc Martin wrote:

> On July 22, Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Marc, does the Quantum device need a three prong outlet? I live in a
> > 2-wire house, and since I rent, I can't do a darn thing about it.
> > Landlord won't rewire it.
>
> The Quantum Companion runs on one AA battery.
>
> The Quantum Power Conditioner (power strips) have
> a 3-prong (grounded) plug.
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> The Quantum Home and Quantum Pro have a 2-prong
> DC adapter (no ground needed)
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Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

Elizabeth thode
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Oh thanks, you're right, I did mistake this for the other. Lizzie
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      On July 23, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It doesn't WORK. Even George Carlos who helped market this

> product admitted later the product did NOT work.  

> http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html



I think you're confusing EMF protection devices, Lizzie.

Carlos was associated with BioPro, not this.



Although this product doesn't look particularly relevant

in today's world, as it looks like it was designed for

a cathode ray tube monitor (not LCD)



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Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

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On July 24, Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I have a CRT monitor.  Do you think this would work?  (Can't tolerate  
> the LED ones).
> > > http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html

I don't know -- generally my experience with EMF protection devices
is that only about 1 in 10 help at all.  And usually that help is only
partial -- that is, I still get symptoms, but it's not as bad as before.
So, in general, I'd have to say that EMF protections devices are
not helpful, although there are exceptions.  

Fortunately, I have found enough exceptions for myself that
I don't generally have much problem with anything anymore.  
Although certainly there are many other things that I've done
in addition to EMF protection device -- diet, supplements, detox,
avoidance of EMF where practical, being selective about
the electronics I surround myself with, etc.

Marc
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Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

Debra
I'll tell you what worked well for me, and this was back in the early 80's when we first got CRT computers in the workplace, I was feeling crummy and forced myself to go to a promotional show, all kinds of alternatives presented, some miles away. I ended up learning a lot and  bought a Tesla watch. and some Wayne and Wandas "diodes" which I placed on all electrical equipment in the home...I didn't have any more problems as long as I wore that watch. i still have it and it still works but looks like hell.LOL
Now i wear a specially made orgonite pendant
The watches are still available but cost more now....
Deb

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

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> On July 24, Esther LeSieur <gomma@...> wrote:
> > I have a CRT monitor.  Do you think this would work?  (Can't tolerate  
> > the LED ones).
> > > > http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html
>
> I don't know -- generally my experience with EMF protection devices
> is that only about 1 in 10 help at all.  And usually that help is only
> partial -- that is, I still get symptoms, but it's not as bad as before.
> So, in general, I'd have to say that EMF protections devices are
> not helpful, although there are exceptions.  
>
> Fortunately, I have found enough exceptions for myself that
> I don't generally have much problem with anything anymore.  
> Although certainly there are many other things that I've done
> in addition to EMF protection device -- diet, supplements, detox,
> avoidance of EMF where practical, being selective about
> the electronics I surround myself with, etc.
>
> Marc
>


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Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

KathyB

Esther, How about an LCD monitor? I'm sure there are used available.

That's something about that Telsa watch Deb. The name of the diodes were
Wayne & Wanda's or they were bought from a friend w that name?

Deb, where did you buy the orgonite pendent?

Kathy


From: Debra <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed
















 



 


   
     
     
      I'll tell you what worked well for me, . I ended up learning a lot and  bought a Tesla watch. and some Wayne and Wandas "diodes" which I placed on all electrical equipment in the home...I didn't have any more problems as long as I wore that watch. i still have it and it still works but looks like hell.LOL

Now i wear a specially made orgonite pendant

The watches are still available but cost more now....

Deb



--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

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> On July 24, Esther LeSieur <gomma@...> wrote:

> > I have a CRT monitor.  Do you think this would work?  (Can't tolerate  

> > the LED ones).

> > > > http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html



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Re: diodes

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On July 25, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote:
> That's something about that Telsa watch Deb. The name of the diodes were
> Wayne & Wanda's or they were bought from a friend w that name?

I believe that the diodes being referred to are sold here:

  http://www.energpolarit.com/

I noticed a little improvement from one of these diodes, but it
was small compared to other items I was already using.

Marc
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Re: diodes

KathyB
Mark,

Thanks, I'll check these out. Maybe later I can swing a Quantum

Kathy

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] diodes


I believe that the diodes being referred to are sold here:



http://www.energpolarit.com/



I noticed a little improvement from one of these diodes, but it

was small compared to other items I was already using.



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

Steph Smith
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I wear a bioprotect card on the body but still feel dreadful ES symptoms - which fluctuate in intensity - inside the house and even in the garden. So is it helping me? or do i need something else?
 
Steph


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Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 8:29
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Most devices or gizmo's who may give a relief do NOTHING to the transversal waves, and that is the reason that the meters do not show any difference.

What these gizmo's do, is change the information of the *longitudinal waves* or *Tesla waves*. Most scientists do not want to know about it, so they don't know about it.

In my gizmo, I just use longitudinal waves. It is the world's first Rife Frequency Therapy Device, which does not work with gas-filled lamps, or handelectrodes, or sound, but just with longitudinal waves.
Its main goal is not to change the longitudinal waves coming from elektrosmog sources, but to repair the damaged immune system.

The BioProtect card also changes the information of longitudinal waves.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: KathyB
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:50
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

Charles,

Are you talking about cel-factor? www cel -factor.com/the-science/clinicalstudies/

cutcat.com/docs/tecnostudies.pdf
CMO (Compensatory Magnetic Oscillation) / T.A.O. (Technology of ..... In reality it is not conceivable to stop the technological development of electronic products ... EMF from equipment used by the public, show that it is possible to reduce the ... At the biophysical level; the disruptive effects of EMF on ionic exchanges. 7 ...
Or this one below? Kathy

Dear Team of EMFOFF
My name is Frank Albrecht, I work as Feng Shui practitioner and
Holistic Health Researcher in Ireland. I just came across your website
which I found very good.

I have been examining houses for Feng SHui, geopathic stress and
electromagnetic fields here in Ireland since the last 9 years – using
different methods. One method I like to use are Bio-Resonance
measurements of the negative information that is transmitted through
walls inside a house, from mobile phone and wifi masts. With the aid of
this methods I was able to proof the efficiency of a protective device.
UNfortunately many of the devices that claim to be protective against
EMF are not very efficient.

End of last year a German author, alternative scientist, Feng Shui
expert explained to me that he had developed a device (a small disc)
that would clear all geopathic stress in a house (to over 90%) and the
negative biological effects of EMF (to over 90%). I got this device sent
and did my Bio- Resonance examinations with it, and the results were
more then amazing.

This device completely (to over 90 – 95%) alters the negative
information of the Electromagnetic Fields as a result they loose their
health damaging effects. A reduction of the technical EMF’s does not
happen. In all the previous years I had never come across a device that
works so efficiently – and I tested many of them. All gridnetworks in
the house were completely gone and streams and underground faults were
rendered harmless. The effects of EMF are all turned into positive
energy. The effects of this go far beyond devices that are known on the
Uk and Irish markets.

After the research I did, I made the immediate decision to become
importer for this device for the UK and Ireland. At present I am
interested to find partners for the marketing in the UK. If you are
interested to know more about it, I would be looking forward to hearing
from you.
With kind Regards,

Frank Albrecht

http://www.thelife.ie/

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From: charles <mailto:charles%40milieuziektes.be>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 1:48 PM

I have them here (in my collection of gizmo's).

Originally they were developed by a Belgian professor.

And he told me, that in the beginning he sold the material to this company, who started trying to copy it, with no success.

That was years ago, and now nobody talks about it.

The successor is the CMO products.

Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by NIS2012

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Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:36

Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html

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Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

Marc Martin
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On July 26, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I wear a bioprotect card on the body but still feel dreadful ES symptoms -
> which fluctuate in intensity - inside the house and even in the garden.
> So is it helping me? or do i need something else?

It doesn't sound like it's helping you... did you notice any change
in ES symptoms at all?

Marc
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Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

Debra
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Kathy and all, Yes I guess they are called Cooks now, I got the pocket diodes, affordable (at the time) and between the two, I got better, so I can't say if the diodes were that effective. at that time, no internet for me yet and nothing else was available. The pendant and I highly recommend this source, he has some ready to go and will custom make them catered to your individual problem.
I saw my diodes on this page
www.energpolarit.com/uploads/File/2010CATALOG.pdf

pendants here:

http://www.king-cart.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?store=orgonite

Let me know if this link is bad. We usually communicate thru the forum.
Deb

--- In [hidden email], KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote:

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> Esther, How about an LCD monitor? I'm sure there are used available.
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> That's something about that Telsa watch Deb. The name of the diodes were
> Wayne & Wanda's or they were bought from a friend w that name?
>
> Deb, where did you buy the orgonite pendent?
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> Kathy
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> Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed
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> Now i wear a specially made orgonite pendant
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> The watches are still available but cost more now....
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Re: Diodes / Tesla watch

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On July 26, Debra <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Kathy and all, Yes I guess they are called Cooks now, I got the pocket diodes,
> affordable (at the time) and between the two, I got better, so I can't say if the
> diodes were that effective.

My experience with the Tesla watch and the Cook's diodes was:

 -- the Tesla watch did not help at all
 -- the Cook's diodes helped a little, but not nearly enough

But of course, everyone responds differently to things (and who knows,
maybe my Tesla watch was a fake?)

Marc
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Re: quantum

jpnordica
Marc I downloaded quantum software, no difference - do you think that it means that the other products from that company wont help either?

jp

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

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> On July 26, Debra <dloven1@...> wrote:
> > Kathy and all, Yes I guess they are called Cooks now, I got the pocket diodes,
> > affordable (at the time) and between the two, I got better, so I can't say if the
> > diodes were that effective.
>
> My experience with the Tesla watch and the Cook's diodes was:
>
>  -- the Tesla watch did not help at all
>  -- the Cook's diodes helped a little, but not nearly enough
>
> But of course, everyone responds differently to things (and who knows,
> maybe my Tesla watch was a fake?)
>
> Marc
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Marc Martin
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On July 26, jpnordica <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Marc I downloaded quantum software, no difference - do you think that it means
> that the other products from that company wont help either?

Yes, if the Quantum Byte software made no difference at all,
then I don't think any of their other products will help either
(my opinion).

Marc
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Marc Martin
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On July 26, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Yes, if the Quantum Byte software made no difference at all,
> then I don't think any of their other products will help either
> (my opinion).

Oh, you could also try this free software:

  http://www.globalcoherence.com/Products.cfm#Metatron-Stress-free-Computer-Workstation%E2%84%A2-software

This didn't help me out any... but I did notice it was doing something.

Marc
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Re: quantum

charles-4
I *clear* our rooms every week with a laser.

In the building material shops they sell thes small lasers for keeping the same height on walls.
They consist of coherent light.
Sweeping with them in the room, makes the *elektrosmog climate* better to withstand.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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  Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: quantum


  On July 26, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
  > Yes, if the Quantum Byte software made no difference at all,
  > then I don't think any of their other products will help either
  > (my opinion).

  Oh, you could also try this free software:

    http://www.globalcoherence.com/Products.cfm#Metatron-Stress-free-Computer-Workstation%E2%84%A2-software

  This didn't help me out any... but I did notice it was doing something.

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Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

charles-4
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I do know a great many people who benefit from their BioProtect card.

However, it may be, that the volume of the elektrosmog is too great, or that the elektrosensitivity potential is too great that a BioProtect card is not enough.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Stephanie Smith
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 17:36
  Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed


  I wear a bioprotect card on the body but still feel dreadful ES symptoms - which fluctuate in intensity - inside the house and even in the garden. So is it helping me? or do i need something else?

  Steph


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  From: charles <[hidden email]>
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 8:29
  Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed



  Most devices or gizmo's who may give a relief do NOTHING to the transversal waves, and that is the reason that the meters do not show any difference.

  What these gizmo's do, is change the information of the *longitudinal waves* or *Tesla waves*. Most scientists do not want to know about it, so they don't know about it.

  In my gizmo, I just use longitudinal waves. It is the world's first Rife Frequency Therapy Device, which does not work with gas-filled lamps, or handelectrodes, or sound, but just with longitudinal waves.
  Its main goal is not to change the longitudinal waves coming from elektrosmog sources, but to repair the damaged immune system.

  The BioProtect card also changes the information of longitudinal waves.

  Greetings,
  Charles Claessens
  member Verband Baubiologie
  www.milieuziektes.nl
  www.milieuziektes.be
  www.hetbitje.nl
  checked by NIS2012

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: KathyB
  To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:50
  Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

  Charles,

  Are you talking about cel-factor? www cel -factor.com/the-science/clinicalstudies/

  cutcat.com/docs/tecnostudies.pdf
  CMO (Compensatory Magnetic Oscillation) / T.A.O. (Technology of ..... In reality it is not conceivable to stop the technological development of electronic products ... EMF from equipment used by the public, show that it is possible to reduce the ... At the biophysical level; the disruptive effects of EMF on ionic exchanges. 7 ...
  Or this one below? Kathy

  Dear Team of EMFOFF
  My name is Frank Albrecht, I work as Feng Shui practitioner and
  Holistic Health Researcher in Ireland. I just came across your website
  which I found very good.

  I have been examining houses for Feng SHui, geopathic stress and
  electromagnetic fields here in Ireland since the last 9 years – using
  different methods. One method I like to use are Bio-Resonance
  measurements of the negative information that is transmitted through
  walls inside a house, from mobile phone and wifi masts. With the aid of
  this methods I was able to proof the efficiency of a protective device.
  UNfortunately many of the devices that claim to be protective against
  EMF are not very efficient.

  End of last year a German author, alternative scientist, Feng Shui
  expert explained to me that he had developed a device (a small disc)
  that would clear all geopathic stress in a house (to over 90%) and the
  negative biological effects of EMF (to over 90%). I got this device sent
  and did my Bio- Resonance examinations with it, and the results were
  more then amazing.

  This device completely (to over 90 – 95%) alters the negative
  information of the Electromagnetic Fields as a result they loose their
  health damaging effects. A reduction of the technical EMF’s does not
  happen. In all the previous years I had never come across a device that
  works so efficiently – and I tested many of them. All gridnetworks in
  the house were completely gone and streams and underground faults were
  rendered harmless. The effects of EMF are all turned into positive
  energy. The effects of this go far beyond devices that are known on the
  Uk and Irish markets.

  After the research I did, I made the immediate decision to become
  importer for this device for the UK and Ireland. At present I am
  interested to find partners for the marketing in the UK. If you are
  interested to know more about it, I would be looking forward to hearing
  from you.
  With kind Regards,

  Frank Albrecht

  http://www.thelife.ie/

  --

  From: charles <mailto:charles%40milieuziektes.be>
  Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed
  To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
  Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 1:48 PM

  I have them here (in my collection of gizmo's).

  Originally they were developed by a Belgian professor.

  And he told me, that in the beginning he sold the material to this company, who started trying to copy it, with no success.

  That was years ago, and now nobody talks about it.

  The successor is the CMO products.

  Greetings,

  Charles Claessens

  member Verband Baubiologie

  www.milieuziektes.nl

  www.milieuziektes.be

  www.hetbitje.nl

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  Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:36

  Subject: [eSens] Re: Fw: Doctor: Radiation is the worst polluter, EHS can be healed

  has anyone tried emf bioshield thats mentioned in the article? I guess it means this one http://www.emfbioshield.com/how.html

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Re: quantum

Marc Martin
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On July 26, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I *clear* our rooms every week with a laser.
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> In the building material shops they sell thes small lasers for keeping the same height on walls.
> They consist of coherent light.
> Sweeping with them in the room, makes the *elektrosmog climate* better to withstand.

My chiropractor/nutritionist has noted the same things with her ES clients.

I have not tried this, as I've got the Quantum Products stuff adding coherence
to my surroundings.

Marc


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Re: quantum

surpriseshan2
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   Dose it matter what frequency the laser is?  I use a healing red laser everyday to get rid of pain [sinus, headaches, bone pain, inflammation], as well as to treat my eyes after being zapped -- my eyes get very blurry with a deep gray film over them, as well as just sore. I also beam my red laser in my ears for a few minutes as that seems to help with being anxious as well as concentration.........

   It would be very helpful if I could use my laser to also just get rid of cell tower and smart meter frequencies............... How exactly do you go about 'clearing' the rooms?

            blessings
                   Shan

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:

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> I *clear* our rooms every week with a laser.
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> In the building material shops they sell thes small lasers for keeping the same height on walls.
> They consist of coherent light.
> Sweeping with them in the room, makes the *elektrosmog climate* better to withstand.
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> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Marc Martin
>   To: [hidden email]
>   Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 20:23
>   Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: quantum
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>   On July 26, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>   > Yes, if the Quantum Byte software made no difference at all,
>   > then I don't think any of their other products will help either
>   > (my opinion).
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>   Oh, you could also try this free software:
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>     http://www.globalcoherence.com/Products.cfm#Metatron-Stress-free-Computer-Workstation%E2%84%A2-software
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>   This didn't help me out any... but I did notice it was doing something.
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>   Marc
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Re: quantum

Marc Martin
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On July 26, bestsurprise2 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Dose it matter what frequency the laser is?  I use a healing red laser everyday

Not sure if it matters what kind of laser it is or not... you could always try
out the laser you have, and see if it helps anything.  I think you just
wave it around the room, as it is the "coherence" in the laser beam
that is supposed to leave a lingering coherence wherever the beam
has passed through.

Marc
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