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Frustration about length of recovery and worries about health side-effects

It's been a year since I realized I'm electro-hypersensitive and started reducing my exposure. I've gotten a lot better, but it still feels like the computer is going to kill me when I'm using it. Does anyone else worry about their health from all this? I wonder if we're more prone to brain tumors, etc because we're so sensitive.

And I wonder how much longer it'll take to fully recover.

And, since the computer literally feels like it's gonna kill me...............would y'all go on it it were you? I rarely go on, maybe once a day, if that, but I still worry..............what's this gonna do to my health?

charles

Re: Frustration about length of recovery and worries about health side-effects

Don't worry.
Try healing yourself.
Be positive.

Fog Top

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Are you connecting to the internet with an Ethernet cable? Have you turned off the internal wifi connection setting inside your computer and also inside your modem? If not, both of these will continue to strongly pulse trying to make a wireless connection even though you may be using a wired connection. I found this out the hard way.

Are you using a laptop or desktop computer? A laptop should be used only on battery mode and not while it's charging. I've found it helpful with both laptop and desktop computers to use a low EMF keyboard and mouse on a little TV-tray type table pushed as far back from the monitor as possible. I put aluminum foil over my modem which does make it heat up, but it's lasted through four years worth of this so far.

If you still feel horrid, give up computer usage for awhile and try to heal first. I have found a Trifield 100XE gauss meter for magnetic fields and a Gigahertz Solutions HF35C for RF measurements to be most helpful in shielding and finding safe spots. Do you have a "smart" digital electric meter? Are near a cell tower or neighbor with a DECT phone or wifi? Do you know the milligauss levels where you live? I used to live where there was a high magnetic field. Whenever the neighbor across the street spoke on his smartphone the ground currents carried the pulsing RF from his phone into my house which showed high reads on an HF35C. This was a 'sick' mystery which could only be solved with the meters.

Also, what bothers you may not bother me even though we're both ES. I have a ES friend who can use cell phones briefly but not a computer at all, while I am just the opposite. She also cannot hold an RF analyzer without immediate hand pain while I can do so for a fair amount of time before the pain sets in.

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Marc Martin

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> Are you connecting to the internet with an Ethernet cable?

Actually, using a wired connection is not a guaranteed improvement over wi-fi... I've had some pretty nasty reactions to a purely-wired internet connection, and some cases that has been worse than my reaction to wi-fi. But that was with DSL, and at higher speeds.

I've also noticed problems with cable internet when there was a grounding difference between my electrical outlets and the incoming cable. I put a cable ground isolator on the incoming cable connection and that fixed that.

Marc

electrohypersensitive

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Yes, I'm using an Ethernet cable. (thanks for the response, by the way). I can't see a button to turn off wifi on my modem..........would it be Inside the modem?

Shielding the modem..........I've heard about that but I wondered if it actually made the signal STRONGER?

I have the Trifield meter......don't know which model it is but it's the most recommended one out there. I did not have any elevated readings in my house except in the hallway when the lights were on, and when I'd get super close to the TV. But I can hardly believe that there were almost no EMF's in my house. I thought maybe I'd have to get a more sensitive one because the Trifield doesn't catch everything, I've heard. But maybe it's right. I mean, we live on the outskirts on town so we're not too close to all the cell towers. The houses are on 1-2 acre lots so I'm not getting too much in the way of neighbors. We opted out of the smart meter. We don't have wifi. There IS a power line about 4 houses away but that's pretty far away. Right?

I've tried more things than I can count to heal from this. I'm guessing it'll just take more time.

I just checked--- the wifi signals that we are getting from neighbors are 1-2 bars (out of 5). There's 4 on the list. That's not too bad, right?

Thanks for the reply! :)

electrohypersensitive

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Thanks :)

steve

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I've turned off my wi-fi, even went into system preferences to disable it completey.
Well, every now and then my wi-fi turns on by itself. Can't figure it out and neither can anyone on the Mac forums.
Very strange

charles

Re: Frustration about length of recovery and worries about health side-effects

Everytime, when there is a power disruption, themodem resets into default, and then the Wifi is working again.
THat is a known effect.

steve

Re: Frustration about length of recovery and worries about health side-effects

I had no power disruption though

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Everytime, when there is a power disruption, themodem resets into default, and then the Wifi is working again.
THat is a known effect.

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Patricia

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steve, which operating system are you using?

i use 10.6.8 on my iMac and 'elcapitan' on my

laptop. when i was using a newer OS on my

laptop, it was horrible for me. when i moved

to 'elcapitan', it asked if i wanted it to do a

security thing to prevent theft, i suppose, and

i said, "NO!", because i figured it was going to

be constantly in touch with some cell tower

somewhere and i wanted it to be an ethernet

computer. i can still use wifi at the library but

when i turn it back to ethernet, it seems to

stick.

love, patricia

On May 13, 2016, at 5:15 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

I've turned off my wi-fi, even went into system preferences to disable it completey.
Well, every now and then my wi-fi turns on by itself. Can't figure it out and neither can anyone on the Mac forums.
Very strange

Patricia

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i have heard that some modems require instruction
from the manufacturer or from the ISP to disable
wifi.
love, patricia

steve

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I'm on El Crapitan

From: Patricia [via ES] <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 7:39 AM
Subject: [ES] Re: Frustration about length of recovery and worries about health side-effects

steve, which operating system are you using?
i use 10.6.8 on my iMac and 'elcapitan' on my
laptop. when i was using a newer OS on my
laptop, it was horrible for me. when i moved
to 'elcapitan', it asked if i wanted it to do a
security thing to prevent theft, i suppose, and
i said, "NO!", because i figured it was going to
be constantly in touch with some cell tower
somewhere and i wanted it to be an ethernet
computer. i can still use wifi at the library but
when i turn it back to ethernet, it seems to
stick.
love, patricia

On May 13, 2016, at 5:15 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

I've turned off my wi-fi, even went into system preferences to disable it completey.
Well, every now and then my wi-fi turns on by itself. Can't figure it out and neither can anyone on the Mac forums.
Very strange

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steve

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The modem has no wi fi built in

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i have heard that some modems require instruction
from the manufacturer or from the ISP to disable
wifi.
love, patricia

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jonahwales

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to turn wiifi off you call ISP company and theyll tell you how to do it

WiFi and cable tv boxes i think are killing me

Marc Martin

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> WiFi and cable tv boxes i think are killing me

My cable modem has no wi-fi in it at all, which is great because I don't have to worry about it accidentally getting switched on.

As for cable boxes, like most electronics there can be a huge variation in these -- I used to have a Comcast/Motorola box from around 2006 that didn't bother me at all, then later tried a TIVO from around 2014 that was terrible. I'm currently using a TIVO from around 2007, which bothers me a little, but far less than that newer model.

Marc

Fog Top

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I have a couple of Actiontec DSL Gateway wireless modems. The Wi-Fi has been disabled in the one upstairs and it has never turned itself back on (I'd know in minutes if it had and have RF analyzers to check). The one downstairs however, did keep turning back on at first, until I realized that I was not saving the disabled setting after changing it.

I feel for you Steve that your modem has a mind of its own and keeps turning the Wi-Fi back on. I have heard some say that their internet provider is sending the commands to re-enable Wi-Fi on their modems.

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steve

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It's actually not the modem that turns the wi-fi back on because the modem doesn't have wi-fi built in.

It's my Mac Mini itself that keeps turning it's built in wi-fi back on.

I have it set to be off permanently so it's baffling

Steve

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I have a couple of Actiontec DSL Gateway wireless modems. The Wi-Fi has been disabled in the one upstairs and it has never turned itself back on (I'd know in minutes if it had and have RF analyzers to check). The one downstairs however, did keep turning back on at first, until I realized that I was not saving the disabled setting after changing it.

I feel for you Steve that your modem has a mind of its own and keeps turning the Wi-Fi back on. I have heard some say that their internet provider is sending the commands to re-enable Wi-Fi on their modems.

From: Marc Martin [via ES] <ml-node+[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 1:51 PM
To: Fog Top
Subject: [ES] Re: Frustration about length of recovery and worries about health side-effects

> WiFi and cable tv boxes i think are killing me

My cable modem has no wi-fi in it at all, which is great because I don't have to worry about it accidentally getting switched on.

As for cable boxes, like most electronics there can be a huge variation in these -- I used to have a Comcast/Motorola box from around 2006 that didn't bother me at all, then later tried a TIVO from around 2014 that was terrible. I'm currently using a TIVO from around 2007, which bothers me a little, but far less than that newer model.

Marc

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Marc Martin

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> It's actually not the modem that turns the wi-fi back on because
> the modem doesn't have wi-fi built in. It's my Mac Mini itself that
> keeps turning it's built in wi-fi back on.I have it set to be off
> permanently so it's baffling

I know on Windows, you can disable the wi-fi at the driver level,
so even if the computer attempts to re-enable it, it will remain
off.

Marc

SuperLaura

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Hi there electrohypersensitve!!

I have been dealing with EHS for three years now, and I think that one of the most important things is having ALL the tools you need to measure every form of EMF. If you are sensitive to one you may be sensitive or become more sensitive to other forms. Honestly I think the trifield meter is pretty useless except for maybe magnetic fields. If you are sensitive this is not going to be a quick fix and you are not going to know whats really causing your problems unless you can measure it. I own a whole suitcase with different tools. I own the Acoustimeter for measuring RF radiation which is multidirectional so I can see the full amount I'm being exposed to in any area, a gigahertz HF35C to measure directionally so I can pinpoint RF sources, a gigahertz ME3830B (for electric and magnetic fields) and a body voltage meter. I use these tools almost daily. You need to know why you don't feel well at your computer.. is it dirty electricity? Is it magnetic? Is it RF radiation? Is it even your computer or is it something else thats near your computer? (wiring in the walls or under the floor etc). If you are guessing what the source is you are going to have a hard time knowing if its fixed. But if you have the tools you can find the culprit in maybe 5 minutes of testing and measuring.

Also keep in mind EHS is not a quick or easy fix and the more you are exposed the more sensitive you become. So yes you should worry and you want to get on top of it before you are so sensitive theres nothing you can do because there are people that get to that point where they just can't survive or heal without taking extreme measures such as moving out into the middle of nowhere. Theres no way to know exactly how much damage has already been done that needs to heal and how many years it might take, just know the more you are exposed the longer its going to take to heal. After 3 years I am still discovering new problems in my living situation that I have to deal with such as magnetic fields I didn't really pay much attention to before.

Lastly what has helped immensely for me is having a naturopathic physician to help me with nutrition response testing.. helping me with diet and whole food supplements to help the body heal faster.

Hope that helps!

SuperLaura

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I also have the stetzerizer meter and green wave plug ins for dirty electricity...forgot to mention that one.