FM band

So what material can I put up in my bedroom that will block FM and TV
band frequencies?

My professional resource says the material he recommends will make the
place look like a bunker and have to totally cover every inch of the
place.

What do you think?
Andrew

Yes thats right, there is no other way as to build a so called
"faraday cage".

--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@n...> wrote:
> So what material can I put up in my bedroom that will block FM and TV
> band frequencies?
>
> My professional resource says the material he recommends will make the
> place look like a bunker and have to totally cover every inch of the
> place.
>
> What do you think?
> Andrew

The No. 1 question is what attenuation (how many times lower) you want to
practically achieve! There are cheaper sollutions if you are not "greed"
:-)... So please tell us your goal.

Drasko


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew McAfee" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: [eSens] FM band

Hi Andrew,

The real issue with RF shielding is to control the leakage. Most shielding materials will offer 60+ dB. See shielding paints and fabrics at www.lessemf.com

However, even small leakage will reduce the effective levels to 20 dB or less.
This means things like outlets, light switches, vents, ceiling lights, the gap around the door, etc. And of course, the windows.

There are solutions for these "penetrations" An excellent text on the subject is Architectural Electromagnetic Shielding Handbook (see http://www.lessemf.com/book8.html#630 It is a how-to book, with Practical recommendations for specific materials and methods for every type of penetration.


Emil DeToffol
Less EMF Inc.



----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew McAfee
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:39 AM
Subject: [eSens] FM band


So what material can I put up in my bedroom that will block FM and TV
band frequencies?

My professional resource says the material he recommends will make the
place look like a bunker and have to totally cover every inch of the
place.

What do you think?
Andrew




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There is a very tall TV tower exactly 2 miles from me that I can feel.
My goal is to wake up in the morning feeling refreshed and not with a
dark band under my eyelids and at the outside corners of my eyes. When
I go camping or am at a location that is far from towers, after about 3
days, the dark discoloration practically disappears. Once I return to
tower hell, it comes right back.
So I want a level (I don't know the attenuation) that will allow my
body to recover, regenerate and not be burnt while I sleep. I already
turn the power off at night, have silver mesh on the windows, copper
paint grounded on the walls, and sleep in a natural latex non metal bed
(no springs or metal frame). The ceiling and floor is not covered with
shielding. I am wondering whether it is worth it to try to cover them
with the same materials as the walls or if that is just a waste of time
and money.

I know that natural earth currents could still be an issue (even after
getting a diploma after working with the earth devas in my area and
dowsing the energy).
I can move the bed around every other night to experiment with that
aspect. I will try that tonight and see if my eyes look any different
in the morning.

Please nobody say that I am doing out of body karmic work during the
night or am being violated by entities. I am doing much to take care of
that and would only like help with the 3rd dimension physical plane.
gratefully,
Andrew
On Jul 19, 2005, at 11:19 AM, Drasko Cvijovic wrote:

Andrew,
Now we are talking (also) about completely different question:
What subjective effects do you expect from a particular attenuation/
shielding?!

As I mentioned earlier, I sleep in a shielded room. I have practically total
attenuation, practically NO EMF but I failed to feel good here!
I don't say it's bad here, but I can't wait having more time to excape to my
hut where I have higher EMFs while feeling qiute good. It is not only my
experiance!
All that is weird!

The only thing I can say positively is that high price fabrics / paints
which offer high attenuation, as Emil said, easily fail at juctions, so if
you are not ready to spend a fortune on shielding, there is no use from more
than 20 dB materials. "The chain is as strong as it's weakest segment."

Still, shielding is an adventure. Have to have a good meter, too! Suggest to
try on of those cannopies first (no need for meter), and if you get good
subjective results, you would go further!

Drasko

Hello Drasko,

no, that is no good advice.
A cannopy is the very last thing we would recommend.
After some time people feel as if they are in a cage.

If you are shielding too much, you are also shielding the necessary earth
radiation, which we need.
One can help then with for instance a Schumann frequency generator.

I prefer normally only shielding the walls were the most radiation is coming
from.
from the mobile phone masts, in most cases, their radiation is coming
horizontally, so the ceiling and floor does not need a shielding.
(If neighbours with DECT phones, WLan routers above or underneath or
transmittors on the roof above, that is another matter)
Remember, a 100 % shielding is not possible.
There is always something leaking through, and that will be reflected by the
opposite wall shielding.

A complete cage of Farady is therefore not good.

And as we heve experienced, when we left our appartment for good, we had to
remove all shielding.
And the moment we had dismantled that, we felt better without it, than with
all of it.
As if the air was fresher, more freedom.
Of course later on came the hammering of the DECT phones, but in a strange
way not so pestering as before.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Drasko Cvijovic" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 21:18
Subject: Re: [eSens] FM band


> Andrew,
> Now we are talking (also) about completely different question:
> What subjective effects do you expect from a particular attenuation/
> shielding?!
>
> As I mentioned earlier, I sleep in a shielded room. I have practically
total
> attenuation, practically NO EMF but I failed to feel good here!
> I don't say it's bad here, but I can't wait having more time to excape to
my
> hut where I have higher EMFs while feeling qiute good. It is not only my
> experiance!
> All that is weird!
>
> The only thing I can say positively is that high price fabrics / paints
> which offer high attenuation, as Emil said, easily fail at juctions, so if
> you are not ready to spend a fortune on shielding, there is no use from
more
> than 20 dB materials. "The chain is as strong as it's weakest segment."
>
> Still, shielding is an adventure. Have to have a good meter, too! Suggest
to

Thats totaly wrong and wired talking. There are no "natural fields"
you need. But if you can prove it you would get the nobelprice for sure.
The best is to try a canopy with very good shielding >40dB and if you
are realy sensetive on EMF (where you would get the nobelprice too if
you could prove it) you will fell the change otherwise you have a
other problem then EMF.

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@m...> wrote:
> Hello Drasko,
>
> no, that is no good advice.
> A cannopy is the very last thing we would recommend.
> After some time people feel as if they are in a cage.
>
> If you are shielding too much, you are also shielding the necessary
earth
> radiation, which we need.
> One can help then with for instance a Schumann frequency generator.

Hey, hey, this becomes very interesting!!!

Have I got it wrong, or Low doesn't believe in electrosensitivity??!!!
If he doesn't, than I appreciate his presence at the list even more, because
anybody who doesn't believe in ES also doesn't want to talk and hear the
argumentation in favour of ES.... (Such are all those people from WHO) So
it's a good refreshment to have a qualified opponent (Low) ready to exchange
thaughts, and possibly enlighten us in some things (really I mean so - I am
always ready to test my presumptions)!

Low, come straight to us: what is your oppinion on the reality of ES?!

I kindly ask Marc and the others not to condemn him if he confeses
disbelief, as far as he doesn't violate Marc's rules about behaviour on the
list.

Drasko


> Thats totaly wrong and wired talking. There are no "natural fields"
> you need. But if you can prove it you would get the nobelprice for sure.
> The best is to try a canopy with very good shielding >40dB and if you
> are realy sensetive on EMF (where you would get the nobelprice too if
> you could prove it) you will fell the change otherwise you have a
> other problem then EMF.
>

Charles,
I partially agree with you but I have some disagreements:

1. Really cannopies give unpleasant feeling. Shileding too. I completely
sypthatize your feeling after removing them. One of possible explanation is
that we lack natural fields, but I think there are other possible
explanations as well. Just having in mind that (for me) partial wrapping of
the head in aluminum foil gives same results. And my shielded room as well
gives me feeling of being in cage. ***That's why I suggested Andrew to see
if he likes such strange feeling (under canopy) before investing in total
Faraday cage.***
Just to mention that nets (meshes) (like GS), instead of high protection
continuous foils, give much better feeling despites somewhat lower
attenuation.

2. Anyway, partial shielding is a potential source of reflection so unless
one is in a very sharp beam, it can be problematic and unpredicitive,
especially when one hasn't a meter to check the outcome.

Drasko
coming
> from.
> From the mobile phone masts, in most cases, their radiation is coming
> horizontally, so the ceiling and floor does not need a shielding.
> (If neighbours with DECT phones, WLan routers above or underneath or
> transmittors on the roof above, that is another matter)
> Remember, a 100 % shielding is not possible.
> There is always something leaking through, and that will be reflected by
the
> opposite wall shielding.
>
> A complete cage of Farady is therefore not good.
>
> And as we heve experienced, when we left our appartment for good, we had
to
> remove all shielding.
> And the moment we had dismantled that, we felt better without it, than
with to
> my
> > hut where I have higher EMFs while feeling qiute good. It is not only my
> > experiance!
> > All that is weird!
> >
> > The only thing I can say positively is that high price fabrics / paints
> > which offer high attenuation, as Emil said, easily fail at juctions, so
if
> > you are not ready to spend a fortune on shielding, there is no use from
> more
> > than 20 dB materials. "The chain is as strong as it's weakest segment."
> >
> > Still, shielding is an adventure. Have to have a good meter, too!
Suggest 3
> > > days, the dark discoloration practically disappears. Once I return to
> > > tower hell, it comes right back.
> > > So I want a level (I don't know the attenuation) that will allow my
> > > body to recover, regenerate and not be burnt while I sleep. I already
> > > turn the power off at night, have silver mesh on the windows, copper
> > > paint grounded on the walls, and sleep in a natural latex non metal
bed
> > > (no springs or metal frame). The ceiling and floor is not covered with
> > > shielding. I am wondering whether it is worth it to try to cover them
> > > with the same materials as the walls or if that is just a waste of
time of

Hi Andrew and all,

I might have a bit to put in about shielding rooms etc. Charles has
pointed out about feeling better out of a fully shielded house, and
different but not as bad when unshielded from mobile towers etc. I
think I remember Drasko saying the same thing?

When confronted with the same problem I rang Per Segerback in Sweden
and spoke
at some length. He worked for ?Ericcson? as an electrical engineer
and became quite famous for speaking out as an electrosensitive, and
has a recent radio interview with Olle Johansson somewhere. They gave
him an all over body suit to try, like one for linesmen. He reported
to me that he felt much better for a while in it, but after a period
of time (3 days?) he started to feel really grotty and wanted to take
it off. Others reported the same, so I didn't get one. Maybe try it
over night as a test?

For whatever reason it is seeming like there is a problem putting
people in faraday cages at length. Charles has suggested lack of
background
radiation, and I think Per Segerback did too. Other suggestions might
be: an alteration in bgd geomagnetic field. Another problem with
cages might be: leave a crack at doors at appertures: what gets in
might bounce around like an echo chamber. Also there could be air
ionisation effects maybe. Also when only some walls are placed, I
read
somewhere about a capacitance developing between the walls creating
a steady electric field according to some measurements. Power supply
and telephones must be done to a defence standard level; I suppose
any power in there might bounce around like an echo chamber also.
On the walls there would be creeping waves and hot spots in the
middle.



Back to your tower. If its FM I will assume tv or radio or something.
Johansson suggests this is the resonant wavelength of the human body
and you are really in a spot given your proximity. If there is enough
space in your area, if you're not in a built up area, maybe a bloody
great single faraday wall in between your bedroom and the mast. You
could then sleep in the less effective shadow of the wall. Sorry
can't draw a picture. Say a four meter high metal wall adjacent your
sleeping area. There is a picture of this somewhere on the net in
Germany. You would get reflections from the other side, but if
you curved the base they wouldn't be as bad as your original problem.
Maybe get lots of chicken wire cheaply and rig up a wall. The widest
chicken wire you could get rigged between two some wooden framework,
try it out to see if it works as a proof of concept. If it worked
then something more permanent. You would have to make sure adjacent
bits of chicken wire were well joined to make good electrical
connection. To do this you'd need to know the type of chicken wire-
tin or aluminium or whatever. Depending on the type you would need
to solder or weld it or metal tape it. Its a bit tricky: if there
is an oxide layer on the metals the join wouldn't be good enough.
Some how you have to make electrical connection every 5- 10 cm
up the seams, otherwise the FM will just come through the seams.
(I think the problem FM frequency is about 1- 2 metres, so you
don't want any gaps bigger than about 10cm. These small gaps
may actually allow through the phone tower from the other side.
Then again maybe it would all light up like a christmas tree.)
(Engineers know how hard it is, that is why they don't get involved.)
Actually its outside- you'd need it braised- cheap and probably
effective. This is all to see if sleeping in the small space
shadowing behind a wall helps, then take it from there. $800 cheaply?
No gaps.

Shielding materials for RF have their good judicious uses, but several
reports here are that complete shielding is a problem.

I'm sure there are some other ideas to a big wall also. This wall does
sound a bit of a difficulty. It seems if you only spend 8 hrs in a
canopy that might be respite from the rest of the time out of bed.
Maybe Charles and Low and Drasko have some experience with this. Its
all one big experiment. Maybe start with a 2.5 m one next to your bed.


If its of any relevance, Martin Andersson from AMAK
www.amak.se from Sweden warns that in
his experience es are highly mold responsive. If there's any mold
in your house you could be reacting. Have to check under the floors,
any food that goes off too quickly or smells, under stove. EMR messes
with same
chemicals related to molds, makes it all worse. I get a rash on my
face from the computer: recently found an antifungal effectively
got rid of it. Also I use computer with polarised blue sunglasses.
Does seem to help.

I had another idea. Somebody living near the tv towers told me that
their is too much signal that close. He said they have to put a
dampener on the tv aerial because of too much signal. You might try
getting rid of the tv aerial off the roof?

Anymore ideas I'll try to post. The picture was of a great big
5 metre high chain link fence like on a golf course, the picture
tells a thousand words. Remember, what do prisoners use to call each
other? Cell phones. If at first you don't succeed, destroy all
evidence that you tried.

Rowsteroz

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@m...> wrote:
> Hello Drasko,
>
> no, that is no good advice.
> A cannopy is the very last thing we would recommend.
> After some time people feel as if they are in a cage.
>
> If you are shielding too much, you are also shielding the necessary
earth
> radiation, which we need.
> One can help then with for instance a Schumann frequency generator.
>
> I prefer normally only shielding the walls were the most radiation
is coming
> from.
> From the mobile phone masts, in most cases, their radiation is
coming
> horizontally, so the ceiling and floor does not need a shielding.
> (If neighbours with DECT phones, WLan routers above or underneath or
> transmittors on the roof above, that is another matter)
> Remember, a 100 % shielding is not possible.
> There is always something leaking through, and that will be
reflected by the
> opposite wall shielding.
>
> A complete cage of Farady is therefore not good.
>
> And as we heve experienced, when we left our appartment for good,
we
had to
> remove all shielding.
> And the moment we had dismantled that, we felt better without it,
than with
> all of it.
> As if the air was fresher, more freedom.
> Of course later on came the hammering of the DECT phones, but in a
strange attenuation/
> > shielding?!
> >
> > As I mentioned earlier, I sleep in a shielded room. I have
practically
> total
> > attenuation, practically NO EMF but I failed to feel good here!
> > I don't say it's bad here, but I can't wait having more time to
excape to
> my
> > hut where I have higher EMFs while feeling qiute good. It is not
only my
> > experiance!
> > All that is weird!
> >
> > The only thing I can say positively is that high price fabrics /
paints
> > which offer high attenuation, as Emil said, easily fail at
juctions, so if
> > you are not ready to spend a fortune on shielding, there is no
use
from
> more
> > than 20 dB materials. "The chain is as strong as it's weakest
segment."
> >
> > Still, shielding is an adventure. Have to have a good meter, too!
Suggest
> to
> > try on of those cannopies first (no need for meter), and if you
get good
> > subjective results, you would go further!
> >
> > Drasko
> >
> > > There is a very tall TV tower exactly 2 miles from me that I
can
feel.
> > > My goal is to wake up in the morning feeling refreshed and not
with a
> > > dark band under my eyelids and at the outside corners of my
eyes. When
> > > I go camping or am at a location that is far from towers, after
about 3
> > > days, the dark discoloration practically disappears. Once I
return to
> > > tower hell, it comes right back.
> > > So I want a level (I don't know the attenuation) that will
allow
my
> > > body to recover, regenerate and not be burnt while I sleep. I
already
> > > turn the power off at night, have silver mesh on the windows,
copper
> > > paint grounded on the walls, and sleep in a natural latex non
metal bed
> > > (no springs or metal frame). The ceiling and floor is not
covered with
> > > shielding. I am wondering whether it is worth it to try to
cover
them
> > > with the same materials as the walls or if that is just a waste
of time
> > > and money.
> > >
> > > I know that natural earth currents could still be an issue
(even
after
> > > getting a diploma after working with the earth devas in my area
and
> > > dowsing the energy).
> > > I can move the bed around every other night to experiment
with
that
> > > aspect. I will try that tonight and see if my eyes look any
different
> > > in the morning.
> > >
> > > Please nobody say that I am doing out of body karmic work
during
the
> > > night or am being violated by entities. I am doing much to take
care of
> > > that and would only like help with the 3rd dimension physical
plane.
> > > gratefully,
> > > Andrew

Thanks for the feedback. I have thought of in my next house, building
it using grounded chicken wire throughout the house.
Now, when I plug in my body voltage meter to the grounded outlet and
touch the wire to test how much electricity is flowing through me, if
it says 0, I am grounded, right? And there is nothing coming up from
the earth into me, right?
My concern in grounding a large piece of chicken wire is that there
might be electricity coming up from the ground into the house and
resonating around the wire. Also, with this chicken wire, is it going
to catch a lot of radio waves? If I have a bunch of Stetzer Filters in
the outlets, is that enough to call them down?

I did sleep in a faraday cage when I lived right next to the TV-FM-cell
towers 3 years ago and it helped a little. It was resonating and
holding a lot of RF radiation. I didn't have any Stetzer filters at the
time.
After that traumatic experience, I don't think I can get my wife back
into a faraday cage for a number of reasons. If that is the only
solution, I will consider it, but in the meantime, I am exploring the
other options.
Andrew

On Jul 21, 2005, at 5:46 AM, rowsteroz wrote:

> get lots of chicken wire cheaply and rig up a wall. The widest
> chicken wire you could get

Hello Drasko,

No, I don't see that he does not believe.
Don't forget that he is German, and his english presented is not so good
(deliberate or not).

Don't forget either, that besides the selling of meters, it is his business
of selling shielding materials as well as canopies.
(Even with an idiotic floor mat) And that is why he rejects "natural
fields".

What he meant was that being able to prove that one is electrosensitive
deserves a Nobel price.
And that is correct.
We all do know what it is being electrosensible, but we cannot prove it
*without any incontrovertible means*

Even the blood samples are not accepted, although they tell a lot.


Furthermore I wanted to stipulate, that RF radiation is in the high
frequency range.
But the Steztzer Filters only work in the wall sockets and do something
against the VLF, or from 5 kHz till 150 kHz.
Not above that frequency.
And they only work on the powerlines in the house.
Not on the apparatus that emit those 5 kHz till 150 kHz.
I found a lot of sources that give disturbing signals around 30 kHz, which
can have a devastating effect on electrosensibles.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Drasko Cvijovic" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 09:37
Subject: [eSens] Low doesn't believe!?


>
> Hey, hey, this becomes very interesting!!!
>
> Have I got it wrong, or Low doesn't believe in electrosensitivity??!!!
> If he doesn't, than I appreciate his presence at the list even more,
because
> anybody who doesn't believe in ES also doesn't want to talk and hear the
> argumentation in favour of ES.... (Such are all those people from WHO) So
> it's a good refreshment to have a qualified opponent (Low) ready to
exchange
> thaughts, and possibly enlighten us in some things (really I mean so - I
am
> always ready to test my presumptions)!
>
> Low, come straight to us: what is your oppinion on the reality of ES?!
>
> I kindly ask Marc and the others not to condemn him if he confeses
> disbelief, as far as he doesn't violate Marc's rules about behaviour on
the

Hello Andrew,

I think *chicken wire* is too large.

I have used the socalled *bird wire*, which has openings of 1/2 inch (12.7
mm).

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew McAfee" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 14:53
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: FM band

> Have I got it wrong, or Low doesn't believe in electrosensitivity??!!!
> If he doesn't, than I appreciate his presence at the list even more, because
> anybody who doesn't believe in ES also doesn't want to talk and hear the
> argumentation in favour of ES....

Yes, but the point of this list is not to argue about the existence of
ES. This list is for people who have ES, and are looking for ways to
make their lives better. This list assumes that ES exists, and
that the list members already know it exists through their first-hand
experience. So I'm not sure it's appropriate to have someone on this
list who does not have ES and is going to argue with list members
that it does not exist. That would seem to me to be an unneccessary
distraction from this list's real purpose.

Marc

Yes thats right i dont believ on EMF as long as its meant to be very
low fields as from dect, mobiles etc.
I am a pofessional so propably its nice to heave me in this list
bacause of that fact ? So dont worry i will only quote on technical
details not on the "other" stuff ;-)

To me it doesn't matter if there is someone on the list that doesn't
believe me or my ES condition. I KNOW what I have and don't need to
prove it to anyone. I deal with non believers every day. I welcome the
technical data and dialog as long as we agree not to attack each
other's belief systems and freely offer what works and doesn't work
from our own personal experience.
Andrew
On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:06 AM, low_emf wrote:

Well, that makes sense to me...
Marc, could we coexist with this "intruder" at least for the purposes of
fun?! Here we have "captured" a friendly alien, so it is a pleasant change
from unfriendly ones we meet every day! And there is a possibility that he
points out to some of our mistakes, showing where we might have been wrong
and wasting the energy we could have used for better solutions... Therefore
his presence might have been coherent with the purpose of the list! At
least, you don't know how many "spies" are silently monitoring our
conversations! This one is straight forward, what I appreciate.
Also, where we could have spoken about these issues if not here at this
list!?

But I don't understand why he conceives his identity and what is his purpose
of being at the list (if not advertising!?) Low, how about a word or two on
this?

Drasko
----- Original Message -----
From: "low_emf" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:06 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Low doesn't believe!?

Thank you Drasko. Ok LIST: On technical issues i am willing to give
some hints and technical background from a "professional" view but
allways remember " i am a friendly alien" (GRIN).
Drakso i dont make any sales or advertisings. But as a posted before i
propably should rethink that and get some money if i post things about
SPECTRAN or other units (yes they DO exist!) i finde helpfull in my
all days work ;-)
Why i dont show up with email etc. is my personal thing. As you can
see on some friendly "notes" in this group its just the best way for
me to live relaxed in future too ;-))))
P.S. Aliens have no name, didnt you know ? We just have unspeakble
runs which i cant translate in english ;-)

--- In [hidden email], "Drasko Cvijovic" <pecina@c...> wrote:
>
> Well, that makes sense to me...
> Marc, could we coexist with this "intruder" at least for the purposes of
> fun?! Here we have "captured" a friendly alien, so it is a pleasant
change
> from unfriendly ones we meet every day! And there is a possibility
that he
> points out to some of our mistakes, showing where we might have been
wrong
> and wasting the energy we could have used for better solutions...
Therefore
> his presence might have been coherent with the purpose of the list! At
> least, you don't know how many "spies" are silently monitoring our
> conversations! This one is straight forward, what I appreciate.
> Also, where we could have spoken about these issues if not here at this
> list!?
>
> But I don't understand why he conceives his identity and what is his
purpose
> of being at the list (if not advertising!?) Low, how about a word or
two on

About the chicken wire at the house: My feeling when you said
you lived 2 km from an FM transmitter, I was assuming that that was
the instigator of your es, as the beam carries further, while I
am not sure of its strength. As I thought it was the instigator,
the aim was only to try to block it in the immediate vicinity of your
sleeping area, by creating a small shadowed area of one room or
less size. As Drasko has pointed out, this is a trial and error
process to use a meter and make sure there is not any pickup from
other localised sources, and tricky to get right.

However as you indicated and I may have forgotten you previously
lived in immediate proximity to several emitters at different freqs,
it is equally likely any one of them may have triggered your es,
so possibly it is not as necessary to nail the FM transmitter.

The idea with chicken wire was that it is cheap for prototypes, and
also has holes in it that might let the mobile phone signals from
the leeward shadowed side of the 'wall' go through more with less
back reflection onto your bed. Similar to a waveguide below cutoff,
that lets high freqs through, but not lower. Bird wire with smaller
holes sounds good.


With regards to body voltage, it seems important according to most
people, unfortunately I don't know properly how to measure it.

Understand point about canopies being a pain for the wife.

Charles point about the 30 khz radiation seems important. VDT are
the most common thing to annoy people, and its probably the
flyback transformer at the back, at that same freq range. Lightning
and some weather effects are at that range. Radiat at that range can
very effectively bend around a flow through things, and its probably
carried along the phone wires. Some indication hyperserotonemia
and weather sensitivity are related to it: I used to get foul
mouthed and grotty, and then a storm would break. Nobody is sure VLF
causes this, but good reason to be concerned. Its carried by all the
bodgy switch mode power supplies.

Bed: maybe try turning it around so that it oriented perpendicular to
the tower. This means signal doesn't sync with your body length. Might
be less effective with 2 in bed.

Out for now
Rowst.

--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@n...> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback. I have thought of in my next house,
building
> it using grounded chicken wire throughout the house.
> Now, when I plug in my body voltage meter to the grounded outlet
and
> touch the wire to test how much electricity is flowing through me,
if
> it says 0, I am grounded, right? And there is nothing coming up
from
> the earth into me, right?
> My concern in grounding a large piece of chicken wire is that there
> might be electricity coming up from the ground into the house and
> resonating around the wire. Also, with this chicken wire, is it
going
> to catch a lot of radio waves? If I have a bunch of Stetzer Filters
in
> the outlets, is that enough to call them down?
>
> I did sleep in a faraday cage when I lived right next to the TV-FM-
cell
> towers 3 years ago and it helped a little. It was resonating and
> holding a lot of RF radiation. I didn't have any Stetzer filters at
the
> time.
> After that traumatic experience, I don't think I can get my wife
back
> into a faraday cage for a number of reasons. If that is the only
> solution, I will consider it, but in the meantime, I am exploring
the
> other options.
> Andrew
>
> On Jul 21, 2005, at 5:46 AM, rowsteroz wrote:
>
> > get lots of chicken wire cheaply and rig up a wall. The widest
> > chicken wire you could get