Electrical Sensitivity Sufferers in the Philadelphia Area

My name is Lauren Kapsalakis and I'm a Masters student at the University ofPennsylvania. I'm just starting to conduct an ethnographic study on sufferers of ES, and I would like to get some personal perspectives about what itis like to be ES, what kind of treatments are used, and what kind of interactions sufferers have had with medical institutions.

If you would be so kind as to share your stories with me and are available for an interview via phone/email, or if you're in the Philadelphia area, a visit/coffee chat, please email me at [hidden email]

My partners Story

Until last summer I was, like most people nowadays, very fond of all my modern communication gadgets from wifi to mobile, from Palm to laptops and alltheir advantages.

from 2006 onwards I went several times to see a doctor for heart palpitations, but they couldn?t find anything wrong with me.

Then in July 2008 I suddenly started experiencing dizziness on numerous occasions, till it got so bad one night, suffering even from speech problems, that I ended up in A&E thinking I had a stroke or heart attack; in the following weeks I underwent many tests. The results showed I was absolutely fine, but the symptoms stayed. The doctors told me I just had been stressed, but the thing is I wasn?t stressed at all prior to this.

To my own shock and confusion I realized that my dizziness always occurred,when I was in close vicinity to Wifi, mobiles, Blackberries and mobile masts.
Other symptoms added themselves to the list: excessive sweating during the night, memory and concentration problems, a pain in my head, and discomforteither side of my neck [ glands ] pins and needles in my hands, a feeling of being static (I gave people electric shocks in that early period, when Ishook their hands), prickly skin and even skin rashes. The latter, when I was sitting in front of my computer or the tv. Even certain light sources (energy saving light bulbs and neon lights) caused the skin problem to occur.

After medical professionals weren?t able to help, I started my own researchand found many websites and blogs by people, with exactly the same problems as mine. They are sufferers of electro-sensitivity (ES), a condition fully recognized in Canada and Sweden as a medical impairment (with 250.000 sufferers in Sweden alone) but unfortunately ridiculed in the UK. I had never heard of it (this to show I am not a hypochondriac), but once I realized that this was the source of my problems, I started clearing my home environment from Wifi, DECT phones and non-essential electrical items. My problems immediately started to get noticeably better.

Since I am suffering from this condition, I have spoken to many people about it and even if not everyone has fully blown symptoms of ES, I have encountered many people who have some of the described symptoms.

So the problem might lie on a bigger scale than the assumed 3-5% of sufferers worldwide. This is the main reason of me contacting you, as I have the feeling that more awareness needs to be raised, as many many people suffer of a small portion of ES symptoms. Especially prevalent seems the following:

Most men carry their mobile in their jacket or trousers for easy access. I used to carry mine in my motorbike jacket?s front left pocket. When I stopped doing that the unexplained palpitations I suffered from for 2 years vanished immediately.

In conversations with friends, colleagues and fellow bikers I heard that many of them experience similar symptoms like pain or tremors in the chest area or what the American media refers to as ?phantom text messages?. Every now and then I?d think I had a text message, when carrying my phone in my trouser pockets, but when I checked there was nothing there.
According to Swedish scientist and ES expert Olle Johansson this is caused ?by high intensity bursts of extremely-low frequency electromagnetic field charges that your phone is producing and (that are) affecting your nervous system.?

This seems to affect mainly men, as men are more likely to carry their phone on their body than women, who mainly carry them in their handbags.

Of course I don?t know, if carrying your mobile is a cause of ES or if these phantom text messages are just another symptom and the causes could lie somewhere else, like problems with your immune system for example, which could to make you more susceptible to all the electromagnetic radiation aroundus, but in any case I guess it can?t be good to have heart palpitations.

I know: I have heard every joke about ?vibrating pockets? and have been many times referred to Ben Goldacre?s ?Bad Science? column. There are definitely pseudo-scientists out there making a lot of money from scaremongering, but we have to distinguish between those and the victims in all this.

Retrospectively I am convinced that my heart palpitations were an early warning sign for what was happening later on. I might have been able to avoid to come to down with electro-sensitivity, if I had known more about it. Andbelieve me: ES is not an easy thing to live with.

During all this happening I thought for a short period of time, that it might just be my ancient phone causing trouble, so I opted for an iphone, but that just made things far worse, which brings me to another issue of widespread problems nobody seems willing to be talking about.

Now I know that the radiation emitted from an iphone/ Blackberry is far higher than the one of my old Nokia. (Measured in SAR ratings: iphone a whopping 2.0, the ancient Nokia a mere 0.57) In the US for example the guidelinesare much tighter, the iphone on the market there has a lower rating.

Since then I have spoken to many proud owners of their Powerful 3G Phones. 

Many of them experience sleep problems (most of them seem to wake up in theearly hours of the morning (around 4.30 am) and find it difficult to get back to sleep) and/ or feel ill. Even though some of them admitted, that their problems started shortly after acquiring their new gadget, they are of course unwilling to put two and two together. As I was when it all started happening to me.

Our fast communication tools are just so wonderfully convenient, that we are very reluctant to think, there might be a problem.

And I?m not talking about some weird conspiracy theory. Just the reluctanceto let go of something making our lives so much easier. But maybe the price we are all paying on the long run will be too high?
Even though it should be said, that of course the revenue of the communications industry is vast.

But smoking used to be a relaxing pastime, didn?t it?

If you are still sceptical, while reading this, maybe you can suspend your disbelief and convey an easy test: Maybe ask around in your office, if people are experiencing sleep problems and/ or the phantom text messages? Maybeask willing participants to switch off their mobile and Wifi during the night, remove the DECT phone from the bedroom and not to carry the mobile on their bodies for a period to see if it makes any difference? 

The phones, if kept switched on by your bed (i.e. used as an alarm clock) will not let your brain go into a proper sleep pattern and thus not allowingfor your body?s necessary recuperation process to work over night.
There should be warnings on phones: Do not keep by your bed.
I am sure that the results of such a test will be very convincing.

Since all this has happened to me I have spoken to many fellow sufferers, as well. Many people, completely left alone by the NHS, forced to leave their jobs and in some cases even their homes. I am in writing contact with a woman who is now living in a tent, as it is the only place, where she can besymptom free. A desolate and lonely existence.

The people I have spoken to come from all walks of life: lawyers, bankers, actors, lighting technicians, librarians etc. They all suffer the same symptoms. If they were all hypochondriac, how come they all have the same set of symptoms? Surely this can?t be some sort of mass hallucination or hysteria.
Even the though numbers are growing ES sufferers and anyone trying to ask for more research are being ridiculed.

So far research hasn?t come up with any conclusive results, but as a sufferer of ES I know, that has just to do with the fact that the scientists undertaking the trials don?t understand (or worse don?t take it seriously) and so the lab environment is a problem in itself for most sufferers.

The whole scenario reminds me very much of the case of ME (especially because of some of the similarities in symptoms between the two illnesses). Sufferers of ME were ridiculed for years as having ?yuppie flu?. Maybe there iseven a link?

For more information:

2 British websites about ES:

http://www.es-uk.info  /  Lots of good info to take from here!

www.electrosensitivity.org

A Canadian website about ES:
www.weepinitiative.org

The Swedish website about ES:
http://www.feb.se/FEB/feb_techman.html

http://safeantenna.org/

http://fullsignalmovie.com /index.html

http://wifiinschools.org.uk/

The following website and articles are about the (proven!) negative effectsof energy saving lightbulbs (for everyone, not just ES sufferers) and the planned ban of tungsten bulbs by the government this year:

http://www.spectrumalliance.org.uk
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lifeandstyle/health/ article4915472.ec
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161899/Low-energy-light-bulbs-cause-rash es-swelling-sensitive-skin-warn-experts.html

Recent articles in the press.

http://www.gq.com/cars-gear/gear-and-gadgets/201002/warning-cell-phone-radiation?currentPa ge=1

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/mobile-phone-radiati on-wrecks-your-sleep-771262.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2552553/Wi-fi-wave s-make-top-DJ-Steve-Miller-sick-Steve-Miller-aka-Afterlife-Allergic-to-wifi-Wifi-allergy.html

htt p://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthcomment/geoffrey-lean/6175172/Mobiles-and-cancer-the-plot-thicken s.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6805895.ece

http://www.expres s.co.uk/posts/view/61725/Is-wi-fi-putting-our-children-in-danger-

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/ 02/us/02cell.html?hpw

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/149235/Police-force-sued-by-officers-who-claim-that-radios-are-making-them-ill-

Other problems to come include the widespread ideas of rolling out wifi over whole cities and the installation of so-called smart-meters, that will send your electricity usage reading wirelessly to the providers.

I am already scared, how I will be able to live my life and cope at my job with the increasing EMFs and Wifi everywhere.

Looking back it would have been great, if I had known more about the possible problems of overexposure to modern communication. 

We all should be more careful until it is really proven that there are no dangers involved in using wireless technology to the extent we do at the moment.

Personally I'm really worried for the future of all my friends and family living in this country. I believe we are sleep walking into a really big problem for our health.

Please take the time to look at the sites above, and talk to others!
Giles London UK
You may use this info.

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My name is Lauren Kapsalakis and I'm a Masters student at the University ofPennsylvania. I'm just starting to conduct an ethnographic study on sufferers of ES, and I would like to get some personal perspectives about what itis like to be ES, what kind of treatments are used, and what kind of interactions sufferers have had with medical institutions.



If you would be so kind as to share your stories with me and are available for an interview via phone/email, or if you're in the Philadelphia area, a visit/coffee chat, please email me at [hidden email]. edu





   
     

   
   


 



 











     

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Hello,

when one measures an elektrosmog source, one measures a certain value.

When one holds a bottle with water in between, the measured value becomes
less, because the water works like a shield.

Now, when one holds a bottle with water, which contains heavy metals, the
value rises, and even has a higher value, that without any bottle in
between.

So, heavy metals do reinforce the waves of elektrosmog.

And as a conclusion, electrosensitives should occupy themselves to get rid
of the stored heavy metals in their body.

That is the first thing they have to undertake.
An appropriate GOOD ionic foot spa, like the IonCleanse, can make the
sensitivity go down with at least 50 % in two weeks time.
These feet bathes should be done every other day.
They get rid of a lot of stuff, even the good ones, so one should compensate
with a good multivitamin and Calcium.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
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From: "Christina Steils" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Electrical Sensitivity Sufferers in the Philadelphia
Area


My partners Story

Until last summer I was, like most people nowadays, very fond of all my
modern communication gadgets from wifi to mobile, from Palm to laptops and
all their advantages.

>From 2006 onwards I went several times to see a doctor for heart
>palpitations, but they couldn?t find anything wrong with me.

Then in July 2008 I suddenly started experiencing dizziness on numerous
occasions, till it got so bad one night, suffering even from speech
problems, that I ended up in A&E thinking I had a stroke or heart attack; in
the following weeks I underwent many tests. The results showed I was
absolutely fine, but the symptoms stayed. The doctors told me I just had
been stressed, but the thing is I wasn?t stressed at all prior to this.

> That is the first thing they have to undertake.
> An appropriate GOOD ionic foot spa, like the IonCleanse, can make the
> sensitivity go down with at least 50 % in two weeks time.
> These feet bathes should be done every other day.

Or these footbaths can make you horribly worse, which is what
happened to me. Although I'm assured that this is an
extremely rare reaction (naturally)

Marc

> when one measures an elektrosmog source, one measures a certain value.
>
> When one holds a bottle with water in between, the measured value becomes
> less, because the water works like a shield.
>
> Now, when one holds a bottle with water, which contains heavy metals, the
> value rises, and even has a higher value, that without any bottle in
> between.

Yes, that's true.
But what happens when you use a bottle of salt water, which more closely
represents a body?

Emil

I haven't tested with salt water. I don't care about it.
My point is, that the heavy metals do reinforce the radiation, and when you
get rid if those heavy metals from your body, the electrosensitivity can be
reduced with a 50 %.
As quite a number of electrosensitives have experienced.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "lessemf.com" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:59 PM
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I am skeptical... what concentration of metals did you
use, what geometry of container, and what frequency
did you see the change?

Salts in solution are metal ions, and lighter ions should move
more than heavy ones. If there is something special with heavy metals we
should try to find out what it is.

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Yes, everybody is sceptical.

It is common not to accept a good tip.
Everybody wants proof, written proof, and another system of proofs.

Never wants to try it yourself.

Let me say that I am a specialist with electrosensitivity.
That I have cured a number of people with electrosensitivity.
That their sensitivity has diminished with 90 up to 99.8 %.
In such a way, that they can live and work in an elektrosmog dirty
surrouning.

Everubody wants scientific proof of that.
But even electrosensitivity as an illnes has not been proven yet, so how can
it be proven that this *imaginary illness* is cured?

So, everybody may continue to seek for solutions, gizmo's and searching for
islands, and maintain their condition.
I don't care.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:12 PM
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Gosh, I'd really like to try it. I did do one that made me feel really really good afterwards but then I have done some with no result. I wonder if they are returnable after a trial? I do think you have to get the right one.  Loni

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> That is the first thing they have to undertake.
> An appropriate GOOD ionic foot spa, like the IonCleanse, can make the
> sensitivity go down with at least 50 % in two weeks time.
> These feet bathes should be done every other day.

Or these footbaths can make you horribly worse, which is what
happened to me. Although I'm assured that this is an
extremely rare reaction (naturally)

Marc








     

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I would like to try this as well!!  

Marc,

Did you do the foot baths every day and that is what made you so sick? I could see why releasing too many toxins into your body at once can make you sick. When I was diagnosed with narcolepsy and started taking amphetaminesI lost too much weigh too fast which at the time I thought was fantastic!!But have since learned that this was another piece of my health puzzle. Losing so much weight so quickly released too many toxins into my body. Or, do you think there was another reason you reacted badly to the foot bath?Like you, I feel like chances are I will have the "rare" reactions. I often say if I was only that lucky in being one of the few when it comes to something like winning the lotto!! :)

Thanks for all your info,

jw

 



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Gosh, I'd really like to try it. I did do one that made me feel really really good afterwards but then I have done some with no result. I wonder if they are returnable after a trial? I do think you have to get the right one. Loni

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From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Electrical Sensitivity Remedy
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 8:48 AM

 

> That is the first thing they have to undertake.
> An appropriate GOOD ionic foot spa, like the IonCleanse, can make the
> sensitivity go down with at least 50 % in two weeks time.
> These feet bathes should be done every other day.

Or these footbaths can make you horribly worse, which is what
happened to me. Although I'm assured that this is an
extremely rare reaction (naturally)

Marc

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> Marc,
> Did you do the foot baths every day and that is what made you so sick?

No, I only did it about 4 times, every 2-3 days... it made me sick 24
hours after the very first footbath, and after 4 times I could see that
things were not getting any better.

The person who was administering these was actually quite shocked at
how black the water was turning (heavy metals?). I think it was just
mobilizing far more heavy metals than my liver, kidneys, etc. could
deal with, causing more damage than good. For me, detox has to be
verrrrrrry slow, with lots of breaks and extra nutrition.

The doctor I eventually started going to said that she'd seen quite a
few people trying to undo the damage of ionic footbaths, so she
refuses to use them as part of her practice.

Marc

Hello Marc,

I have found that there are quite some differances between several ionic
foot spa types.

The *IonCleanse* does its job quite well, as the UK made *Bio Energiser -
Detox Foot Spa* hardly did its job.

Many China made ionic spa's do have copper electrodes, where stainless steel
plates are the best.

It is also important that the display of the computer shows the amount of
Amps.
That is important, because only then one does know if the amount of salt is
right.
If the amount is too low, the detox is not right; if the amount is too high,
the timespan of the electrodes goes down.

If the bath is working properly, first there should be white foam visible,
then orange, tyhen yellow-green, then green and then brown and dark brown.
There are also black flecks.
In total a thick darkbrown foamlike layer.

Be aware that the normal tapwater contains also a lot of stuff, and makes
the water colorize.
In Denver, Colorado, the predominant water color is is ornage; in Phoenix,
Arizona, orange-brown; in parts of texas, brown; in Boise, Idaho,
yellow-green.

I did test the machine with distilled water, added the necessary amount of
salt, and after 30 minutes, the water colored slightly yellow.
Then, with the feet in the water, all mentioned colors occurred.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:49 AM
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Study said that the discoloration in the water is the reaction in the water & what ever you add in to it. Not the toxins coming out of your body.???  Loni

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Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 9:49 PM


 



> Marc,
> Did you do the foot baths every day and that is what made you so sick?

No, I only did it about 4 times, every 2-3 days... it made me sick 24
hours after the very first footbath, and after 4 times I could see that
things were not getting any better.

The person who was administering these was actually quite shocked at
how black the water was turning (heavy metals?). I think it was just
mobilizing far more heavy metals than my liver, kidneys, etc. could
deal with, causing more damage than good. For me, detox has to be
verrrrrrry slow, with lots of breaks and extra nutrition.

The doctor I eventually started going to said that she'd seen quite a
few people trying to undo the damage of ionic footbaths, so she
refuses to use them as part of her practice.

Marc








     

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Didn't you read my post regarding that ?

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: "Loni" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:18 PM
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Study said that the discoloration in the water is the reaction in the water
& what ever you add in to it. Not the toxins coming out of your body. ???
Loni

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Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 9:49 PM






> Marc,
> Did you do the foot baths every day and that is what made you so sick?

No, I only did it about 4 times, every 2-3 days... it made me sick 24
hours after the very first footbath, and after 4 times I could see that
things were not getting any better.

The person who was administering these was actually quite shocked at
how black the water was turning (heavy metals?). I think it was just
mobilizing far more heavy metals than my liver, kidneys, etc. could
deal with, causing more damage than good. For me, detox has to be
verrrrrrry slow, with lots of breaks and extra nutrition.

The doctor I eventually started going to said that she'd seen quite a
few people trying to undo the damage of ionic footbaths, so she
refuses to use them as part of her practice.

Marc










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> Study said that the discoloration in the water is the reaction in the
> water & what ever you add in to it. Not the toxins coming out of your
> body. ??? 

Yes, well that study ignores what happens in the 24 hours after you
take the footbath, when the REAL detox occurs...

Marc

No I must have missed it. Which one was it? I'd like to. I get so many emails that I skim through them & do miss some info. I have to limit my time onthe computer for obvious reasons. Sorry Charles. Loni

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Didn't you read my post regarding that ?

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes. nl
www.milieuziektes. be
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From: "Loni" <loni326@yahoo. com>
To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Electrical Sensitivity Remedy

Study said that the discoloration in the water is the reaction in the water
& what ever you add in to it. Not the toxins coming out of your body. ???
Loni

--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Electrical Sensitivity Remedy
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 9:49 PM

> Marc,
> Did you do the foot baths every day and that is what made you so sick?

No, I only did it about 4 times, every 2-3 days... it made me sick 24
hours after the very first footbath, and after 4 times I could see that
things were not getting any better.

The person who was administering these was actually quite shocked at
how black the water was turning (heavy metals?). I think it was just
mobilizing far more heavy metals than my liver, kidneys, etc. could
deal with, causing more damage than good. For me, detox has to be
verrrrrrry slow, with lots of breaks and extra nutrition.

The doctor I eventually started going to said that she'd seen quite a
few people trying to undo the damage of ionic footbaths, so she
refuses to use them as part of her practice.

Marc

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> No I must have missed it. Which one was it? I'd like to. I get so many
> emails that I skim through them & do miss some info.

Yes, unfortunately this group has become too busy for someone with
ES to follow! :-(

Marc

Exactly!  I've been taking notes on info because retrieving is much too grueling!  Know how you feel Marc. Loni

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> No I must have missed it. Which one was it? I'd like to. I get so many
> emails that I skim through them & do miss some info.

Yes, unfortunately this group has become too busy for someone with
ES to follow! :-(

Marc








     

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> I have found that there are quite some differances between several ionic
> foot spa types.

The one I had the bad reaction to was a "Bionic Hydrotherapy":

http://www.bionichydrotherapy.com/

This is supposed to be a good model. And expensive! It appeared that
it was being operated correctly.

Perhaps if I used it for shorter sessions it would have worked better.
But that pretty much would have required me to buy one for myself,
since the operator could not believe that her standard session
length was causing me problems.

Marc

In the old days newsgroups had a montly summary, and an FAQ that was kept
current. But those were run by people without ES...

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