Electrical Sensitivity Sufferers in the Philadelphia Area

>
> Hello John,
>
> we have compared that one woth our IonCleanse.
>
> Where the IonCleanse produces a lot of dirt, the Aqua Detox produced onlya
> small amount.
> And we tested woth distilled water, because then one can see what it does.
> It is natural, that tapwater itsself already gives a lot of discoloration.
>
> That is the reason for my question if anybody did have experience with the
> Detox Foot Spa DT005B
>
> from: http://www.detoxspamachine.com
>
> which is not so expensive as the IonCleanse.
>
> With these machines one can see on the digital display in Amps, if there is
> sufficient salt in the water.
> And stainless steel elektrodes are much better than copper ones.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "johnottawa80" <johnottawa80@...>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:02 AM
> Subject: [eSens] Ionic foot spa (Re: Electrical Sensitivity Remedy)
>
>
> > Hi Charles,
> > Do you have any knowledge of the Aqua Detox machine?
> > (http://www.aquadetox-int.com/)
> > If you do, please share! Is it any good?
> > I've used it, but I'm not sure it did anything.
> > It has spiral metal electrodes which get dissolved when using them, so the
> > colour of the water is always dark afterwards due to rust from the coils.
> > What do you think of that?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John.
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Marc,
> >>
> >> I have found that there are quite some differances between several ionic
> >> foot spa types.
> >>
> >> The *IonCleanse* does its job quite well, as the UK made *Bio Energiser -
> >> Detox Foot Spa* hardly did its job.
> >>
> >> Many China made ionic spa's do have copper electrodes, where stainless
> >> steel
> >> plates are the best.
> >>
> >> It is also important that the display of the computer shows the amountof
> >> Amps.
> >> That is important, because only then one does know if the amount of salt
> >> is
> >> right.
> >> If the amount is too low, the detox is not right; if the amount is too
> >> high,
> >> the timespan of the electrodes goes down.
> >>
> >> If the bath is working properly, first there should be white foam
> >> visible,
> >> then orange, tyhen yellow-green, then green and then brown and dark
> >> brown.
> >> There are also black flecks.
> >> In total a thick darkbrown foamlike layer.
> >>
> >> Be aware that the normal tapwater contains also a lot of stuff, and makes
> >> the water colorize.
> >> In Denver, Colorado, the predominant water color is is ornage; in
> >> Phoenix,
> >> Arizona, orange-brown; in parts of texas, brown; in Boise, Idaho,
> >> yellow-green.
> >>
> >> I did test the machine with distilled water, added the necessary amount
> >> of
> >> salt, and after 30 minutes, the water colored slightly yellow.
> >> Then, with the feet in the water, all mentioned colors occurred.
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >> Charles Claessens
> >> member Verband Baubiologie
> >> www.milieuziektes.nl
> >> www.milieuziektes.be
> >> www.hetbitje.nl
> >> checked by Norton
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Marc Martin" <marc@>
> >> To: <[hidden email]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:49 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Electrical Sensitivity Remedy
> >>
> >>
> >> >> Marc,
> >> >> Did you do the foot baths every day and that is what made you so sick?
> >> >
> >> > No, I only did it about 4 times, every 2-3 days... it made me sick 24
> >> > hours after the very first footbath, and after 4 times I could see that
> >> > things were not getting any better.
> >> >
> >> > The person who was administering these was actually quite shocked at
> >> > how black the water was turning (heavy metals?). I think it was just
> >> > mobilizing far more heavy metals than my liver, kidneys, etc. could
> >> > deal with, causing more damage than good. For me, detox has to be
> >> > verrrrrrry slow, with lots of breaks and extra nutrition.
> >> >
> >> > The doctor I eventually started going to said that she'd seen quite a
> >> > few people trying to undo the damage of ionic footbaths, so she
> >> > refuses to use them as part of her practice.
> >> >
> >> > Marc
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> > As I mentioned a copple of days ago, it is quite easy with the advanced
> > search-function at google.
>
> Ahh, well I was referring to the search on the Yahoo Groups page for
> "eSens", which does not return any results any more recent than
> March 2009. That's a Yahoo bug. But I agree that Google works --
> sometimes I'm searching the Internet for something on Google,
> and the only relevant matches I get are postings from "eSens".
>
> Marc
>

>
> > I think Marc mentioned there was an online-search tool on this program as
> > well (but I don't know how that works).
>
> I don't think PG Offline can search for content on the Internet... just
> whatever you've already downloaded from YahooGroups.
>
> Also, if you want to download the entire archive of messages from eSens
> for PG Offline, here it is in a zip file:
>
> http://ufoseries.com/esens.zip
>
> That is a 19 MB zip file, and it unzips to a 130 MB .MDB file. Then
> you can use PG Offline to "Import from Folder" (in the File menu).
>
> Marc
>

> Hi again Charles,
> so the Aqua Detox produced relatively small amounts of 'dirt'...
> That's interesting. There was certainly a lot of brown/black 'dirt' in the
> foot bath after my session with the Aqua Detox machine. This could perhaps
> mean that something really 'came out' then!?
> By the way, do you think there's any danger of 'rust' from the coils (or
> pollutants in the water) can get absorbed into the body during the
> session, or does things just go out of the body, and not in?
> At http://www.detoxspamachine.com, they write about making the spa more
> effective by adding e.g. herbs to the water. Wouldn't this mean that thing
> are absorbed from the water also?
>
> Regards,
> John.
>
> --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hello John,
>>
>> we have compared that one woth our IonCleanse.
>>
>> Where the IonCleanse produces a lot of dirt, the Aqua Detox produced only
>> a
>> small amount.
>> And we tested woth distilled water, because then one can see what it
>> does.
>> It is natural, that tapwater itsself already gives a lot of
>> discoloration.
>>
>> That is the reason for my question if anybody did have experience with
>> the
>> Detox Foot Spa DT005B
>>
>> from: http://www.detoxspamachine.com
>>
>> which is not so expensive as the IonCleanse.
>>
>> With these machines one can see on the digital display in Amps, if there
>> is
>> sufficient salt in the water.
>> And stainless steel elektrodes are much better than copper ones.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Charles Claessens
>> member Verband Baubiologie
>> www.milieuziektes.nl
>> www.milieuziektes.be
>> www.hetbitje.nl
>> checked by Norton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "johnottawa80" <johnottawa80@...>
>> To: <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:02 AM
>> Subject: [eSens] Ionic foot spa (Re: Electrical Sensitivity Remedy)
>>
>>
>> > Hi Charles,
>> > Do you have any knowledge of the Aqua Detox machine?
>> > (http://www.aquadetox-int.com/)
>> > If you do, please share! Is it any good?
>> > I've used it, but I'm not sure it did anything.
>> > It has spiral metal electrodes which get dissolved when using them, so
>> > the
>> > colour of the water is always dark afterwards due to rust from the
>> > coils.
>> > What do you think of that?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > John.
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello Marc,
>> >>
>> >> I have found that there are quite some differances between several
>> >> ionic
>> >> foot spa types.
>> >>
>> >> The *IonCleanse* does its job quite well, as the UK made *Bio
>> >> Energiser -
>> >> Detox Foot Spa* hardly did its job.
>> >>
>> >> Many China made ionic spa's do have copper electrodes, where stainless
>> >> steel
>> >> plates are the best.
>> >>
>> >> It is also important that the display of the computer shows the amount
>> >> of
>> >> Amps.
>> >> That is important, because only then one does know if the amount of
>> >> salt
>> >> is
>> >> right.
>> >> If the amount is too low, the detox is not right; if the amount is too
>> >> high,
>> >> the timespan of the electrodes goes down.
>> >>
>> >> If the bath is working properly, first there should be white foam
>> >> visible,
>> >> then orange, tyhen yellow-green, then green and then brown and dark
>> >> brown.
>> >> There are also black flecks.
>> >> In total a thick darkbrown foamlike layer.
>> >>
>> >> Be aware that the normal tapwater contains also a lot of stuff, and
>> >> makes
>> >> the water colorize.
>> >> In Denver, Colorado, the predominant water color is is ornage; in
>> >> Phoenix,
>> >> Arizona, orange-brown; in parts of texas, brown; in Boise, Idaho,
>> >> yellow-green.
>> >>
>> >> I did test the machine with distilled water, added the necessary
>> >> amount
>> >> of
>> >> salt, and after 30 minutes, the water colored slightly yellow.
>> >> Then, with the feet in the water, all mentioned colors occurred.
>> >>
>> >> Greetings,
>> >> Charles Claessens
>> >> member Verband Baubiologie
>> >> www.milieuziektes.nl
>> >> www.milieuziektes.be
>> >> www.hetbitje.nl
>> >> checked by Norton
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Marc Martin" <marc@>
>> >> To: <[hidden email]>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:49 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Electrical Sensitivity Remedy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> Marc,
>> >> >> Did you do the foot baths every day and that is what made you so
>> >> >> sick?
>> >> >
>> >> > No, I only did it about 4 times, every 2-3 days... it made me sick
>> >> > 24
>> >> > hours after the very first footbath, and after 4 times I could see
>> >> > that
>> >> > things were not getting any better.
>> >> >
>> >> > The person who was administering these was actually quite shocked at
>> >> > how black the water was turning (heavy metals?). I think it was
>> >> > just
>> >> > mobilizing far more heavy metals than my liver, kidneys, etc. could
>> >> > deal with, causing more damage than good. For me, detox has to be
>> >> > verrrrrrry slow, with lots of breaks and extra nutrition.
>> >> >
>> >> > The doctor I eventually started going to said that she'd seen quite
>> >> > a
>> >> > few people trying to undo the damage of ionic footbaths, so she
>> >> > refuses to use them as part of her practice.
>> >> >
>> >> > Marc
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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