I am interested in Charles 22 point list too.
But wanted to share with you all that once I got rid of all the amalgams and nickel crowns in my mouth (17 amalgams and 2 nickel crowns - one to go) And detoxified from the amalgams, PLUS 22 years of heavy metals from welding (I was a high steel ironworker!) My ES has gone away, along with Fibromyalgia. I am taking customized supplements according to my DNA test, As well as glutathione and I'm a completely different person than I was just 5 years ago! At 66, that's a wonderful thing to be able to say. Jan Jenson No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2592 - Release Date: 12/29/09 07:47:00 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi Jan,
So glad you are doing so much better. Sure gives us hope! I have suffered immensely for 20 years now from the effects of ES so any info you can share with me is greatly appreciated. I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has it helped you? How much do you need to take? What other supplements did you find to be the most helpful? Thanks, Cheryl --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Jan Jenson <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Jan Jenson <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] ES & heavy metal toxins To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 11:01 AM I am interested in Charles 22 point list too. But wanted to share with you all that once I got rid of all the amalgams and nickel crowns in my mouth (17 amalgams and 2 nickel crowns - one to go) And detoxified from the amalgams, PLUS 22 years of heavy metals from welding (I was a high steel ironworker!) My ES has gone away, along with Fibromyalgia. I am taking customized supplements according to my DNA test, As well as glutathione and I'm a completely different person than I was just 5 years ago! At 66, that's a wonderful thing to be able to say. Jan Jenson No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2592 - Release Date: 12/29/09 07:47:00 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has
> it helped you? How much do you need to take? Glutathione is the body's main antioxidant, helping you rid yourself of heavy metals and viruses. In chronically ill people, glutathione is typically depleted. I've read that taking glutathione supplements may not absorb all that well, although there are supplements which indirectly boost glutathione levels, like OSR and Alpha Lipoic Acid (probably many others). Also, some foods are high in glutathione, like avocados. Personally, ever since I got ill, I have eaten an avocado almost every day, and still find it beneficial (although fattening, I'm sure!) Marc |
Haha Marc on the Avacodo. I didn't know that so I need to add it to my dietonly I'm trying to lose weight. Why is it we can never win! lol
I really contribute glutithione injections to one of the things that has literally saved my life. We can't live without it yet mainstream medicine doesn't do anything if youare low. Loni --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] glutathione To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:46 AM > I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has > it helped you? How much do you need to take? Glutathione is the body's main antioxidant, helping you rid yourself of heavy metals and viruses. In chronically ill people, glutathione is typically depleted. I've read that taking glutathione supplements may not absorb all that well, although there are supplements which indirectly boost glutathione levels, like OSR and Alpha Lipoic Acid (probably many others). Also, some foods are high in glutathione, like avocados. Personally, ever since I got ill, I have eaten an avocado almost every day, and still find it beneficial (although fattening, I'm sure!) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Jan,
what test did you take exactly? and glutathione, was it IV or pills? Thx --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] ES & heavy metal toxins To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:41 PM Hi Jan, So glad you are doing so much better. Sure gives us hope! I have suffered immensely for 20 years now from the effects of ES so any info you can share with me is greatly appreciated. I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has it helped you? How much do you need to take? What other supplements did you find to be the most helpful? Thanks, Cheryl --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Jan Jenson <jjenson@roadrunner. com> wrote: From: Jan Jenson <jjenson@roadrunner. com> Subject: [eSens] ES & heavy metal toxins To: esens@yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 11:01 AM I am interested in Charles 22 point list too. But wanted to share with you all that once I got rid of all the amalgams and nickel crowns in my mouth (17 amalgams and 2 nickel crowns - one to go) And detoxified from the amalgams, PLUS 22 years of heavy metals from welding (I was a high steel ironworker!) My ES has gone away, along with Fibromyalgia. I am taking customized supplements according to my DNA test, As well as glutathione and I'm a completely different person than I was just 5 years ago! At 66, that's a wonderful thing to be able to say. Jan Jenson No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2592 - Release Date: 12/29/09 07:47:00 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In researching the various ALA supplements at the store, I came across a product called Nerve Shield. It not only contains ALA, but also other supplements that are touted to protect the nerves and help rebuild the myelin sheathing.
Since it stated that it also helped the body make glutathione, I felt it was worth the try. My wife has had a very good reactio to this supplement. Since I observed that police radar affect her asbadly as a microwave or wifi, if not worse, I realized that protecting thenerves and rebuilding the myelin sheathing are essential. After about a month of use, she has really reached a level of possible normalcy in the right environment. As long as the police are not shooting radar waves at her, her existence without symptoms is totally improved. I sincerely recommend this product. I see it is also available on the internet. This brings me to the next question. Do we have any rights to ask thepolice to stop radiating our neighborhood with their speed traps? I would like to know if it is even legal for the police to park on private property for their speed traps. Unfortunately, after moving three times, this house is the best environment, except that a church parking lot is on one side. We virtually have no neighbors to radiate us. A church on one side, a field to the back, and two semi-occupied houses on the other side. I need to know how to approach this speed trap problem. I know I cannot confront the police directly. They will think we are crazy? Any thoughts? Are there human rights groups that protect the electically sensitive? Thanks, Mike --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] glutathione To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:46 AM > I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has > it helped you? How much do you need to take? Glutathione is the body's main antioxidant, helping you rid yourself of heavy metals and viruses. In chronically ill people, glutathione is typically depleted. I've read that taking glutathione supplements may not absorb all that well, although there are supplements which indirectly boost glutathione levels, like OSR and Alpha Lipoic Acid (probably many others). Also, some foods are high in glutathione, like avocados. Personally, ever since I got ill, I have eaten an avocado almost every day, and still find it beneficial (although fattening, I'm sure!) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi Mike This prod sounds good Was your wife severely affected? What were her symptoms?? And now??? wOw, can't wait to find out more!! Thnx Kooky --- In [hidden email], angela england <mariaaengland@...> wrote: > > In researching the various ALA supplements at the store, I came across a product called Nerve Shield. It not only contains ALA, but also othersupplements that are touted to protect the nerves and help rebuild the myelin sheathing. > Since it stated that it also helped the body make glutathione, I felt it was worth the try. My wife has had a very good reactio to this supplement.    Since I observed that police radar affect her as badly as a microwave or wifi, if not worse, I realized that protecting the nerves and rebuilding the myelin sheathing are essential. After about a month of use, she has really reached a level of possible normalcy in the right environment. As long as the police are not shooting radar waves at her, her existence without symptoms is totally improved. I sincerely recommend this product. I see it is also available on the internet. > This brings me to the next question. Do we have any rights to ask the police to stop radiating our neighborhood with their speed traps? I would like to know if it is even legal for the police to park on private property for their speed traps. Unfortunately, after moving three times, this house is the best environment, except that a church parking lot ison one side. We virtually have no neighbors to radiate us. A church on one side, a field to the back, and two semi-occupied houses on theother side.  I need to know how to approach this speed trap problem. I know I cannot confront the police directly. They will think we are crazy? Any thoughts? Are there human rights groups that protect the electically sensitive? Thanks, Mike > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] glutathione > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:46 AM > > >  > > > > > I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has > > it helped you? How much do you need to take? > > Glutathione is the body's main antioxidant, helping you rid yourself of > heavy metals and viruses. In chronically ill people, glutathione is > typically depleted. I've read that taking glutathione supplements > may not absorb all that well, although there are supplements which > indirectly boost glutathione levels, like OSR and Alpha Lipoic Acid > (probably many others). Also, some foods are high in glutathione, > like avocados. > > Personally, ever since I got ill, I have eaten an avocado > almost every day, and still find it beneficial (although fattening, > I'm sure!) > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
She has had severe reactions to radar, cell phones, etc. Now her reactions are so minimal she is going back to school.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "furstc0404" <[hidden email]> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:01:26 To: <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: glutathione Hi Mike This prod sounds good Was your wife severely affected? What were her symptoms?? And now??? wOw, can't wait to find out more!! Thnx Kooky --- In [hidden email], angela england <mariaaengland@...> wrote: > > In researching the various ALA supplements at the store, I came across a product called Nerve Shield. It not only contains ALA, but also othersupplements that are touted to protect the nerves and help rebuild the myelin sheathing. > Since it stated that it also helped the body make glutathione, I felt it was worth the try. My wife has had a very good reactio to this supplement.    Since I observed that police radar affect her as badly as a microwave or wifi, if not worse, I realized that protecting the nerves and rebuilding the myelin sheathing are essential. After about a month of use, she has really reached a level of possible normalcy in the right environment. As long as the police are not shooting radar waves at her, her existence without symptoms is totally improved. I sincerely recommend this product. I see it is also available on the internet. > This brings me to the next question. Do we have any rights to ask the police to stop radiating our neighborhood with their speed traps? I would like to know if it is even legal for the police to park on private property for their speed traps. Unfortunately, after moving three times, this house is the best environment, except that a church parking lot ison one side. We virtually have no neighbors to radiate us. A church on one side, a field to the back, and two semi-occupied houses on theother side.  I need to know how to approach this speed trap problem. I know I cannot confront the police directly. They will think we are crazy? Any thoughts? Are there human rights groups that protect the electically sensitive? Thanks, Mike > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] glutathione > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:46 AM > > >  > > > > > I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has > > it helped you? How much do you need to take? > > Glutathione is the body's main antioxidant, helping you rid yourself of > heavy metals and viruses. In chronically ill people, glutathione is > typically depleted. I've read that taking glutathione supplements > may not absorb all that well, although there are supplements which > indirectly boost glutathione levels, like OSR and Alpha Lipoic Acid > (probably many others). Also, some foods are high in glutathione, > like avocados. > > Personally, ever since I got ill, I have eaten an avocado > almost every day, and still find it beneficial (although fattening, > I'm sure!) > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> In researching the various ALA supplements at the store, I came across a
> product called Nerve Shield. It not only contains ALA, but also other > supplements that are touted to protect the nerves and help rebuild the > myelin sheathing. Interesting! I see that the daily dose of Nerve Shield (2 tablets) contains 300mg of alpha lipoic acid. I know of at least one discussion group that would insist that taking that much alpha lipoic acid at an interval of only once per day would make many people worse (due to mobilization of heavy metals), but I'm glad to hear that you're having good results. Marc |
Suggest to the local gov't that the police should be upgraded to
Lidar (laser). It still might affect her though. In fact, first try buying about 5 feet of "veil shield" from Less EMF. Also some microwave absorber perhaps. In daytime I drive with veilshield across the windshield (held up by the visors) if I expect to encounter strong microwaves. At night it does make vision harder due to lights diffracting, and I generally only use it at stop lights near cell towers at night (although it's not impossible to drive with it at night if visibility is otherwise good and there's little oncoming traffic). My side and rear windows are shielded with ScotchTint amber-metallic; otherwise I'd want veil shield on all those too. The absorber I have on the dash and rear deck, but I don't think that's critical. I just started taking RLA finally. Will let you know if it has any dramatic results. Also curcumin. On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > In researching the various ALA supplements at the store, I came across a > > product called Nerve Shield. It not only contains ALA, but also other > > supplements that are touted to protect the nerves and help rebuild the > > myelin sheathing. > > Interesting! I see that the daily dose of Nerve Shield (2 tablets) contains > 300mg of alpha lipoic acid. I know of at least one discussion group that > would insist that taking that much alpha lipoic acid at an interval of only > once per day would make many people worse (due to mobilization of heavy > metals), but I'm glad to hear that you're having good results. > > Marc > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi! Thanks for info & I have had the sensitivity for over 7 yrs from mainlycellphone signals &
even close proximity w/in 5 feet I feel they cause my supposely "migraine" headache in my left temple area. I had read about mylin sheath damage, which I truly believe that is what happened on my left side I also had tried recptors of the gluathione, which seems to help some, along w/eating alot of Advacados lately & now I know why!! I'm almost convincedour bodies cna crave what it neeeds, along w/alot of KNOWLEDGE. Thanks forinfo much apprectiated Hope everyone is doing well & God Bless If anyone can relate, image for 7 yrs trying to stay away from cellphone(s)and their reception range (waves) S --- On Thu, 12/31/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: glutathione To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 2:15 PM She has had severe reactions to radar, cell phones, etc. Now her reactions are so minimal she is going back to school. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "furstc0404" <[hidden email]> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:01:26 To: <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: glutathione Hi Mike This prod sounds good Was your wife severely affected? What were her symptoms?? And now??? wOw, can't wait to find out more!! Thnx Kooky --- In [hidden email], angela england <mariaaengland@...> wrote: > > In researching the various ALA supplements at the store, I came across a product called Nerve Shield. It not only contains ALA, but also other supplements that are touted to protect the nerves and help rebuild the myelinsheathing. > Since it stated that it also helped the body make glutathione, I felt it was worth the try. My wife has had a very good reactio to this supplement. Since I observed that police radar affect her as badly as a microwave or wifi, if not worse, I realized that protecting the nerves and rebuilding the myelin sheathing are essential. After about a month of use, she has really reached a level of possible normalcy in the right environment. As long as the police are not shooting radar waves at her, her existence without symptoms is totally improved. I sincerely recommend this product. I see it is also available on the internet. > This brings me to the next question. Do we have any rights to ask the police to stop radiating our neighborhood with their speed traps? I would like to know if it is even legal for the police to park on private property for their speed traps. Unfortunately, after moving three times, this house is the best environment, except that a church parking lot is on one side. We virtually have no neighbors to radiate us. A church on one side, a field to the back, and two semi-occupied houses on the other side. I need to know how to approach this speed trap problem. I know I cannot confront the police directly. They will think we are crazy? Any thoughts? Are there human rights groups that protect the electically sensitive? Thanks, Mike > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] glutathione > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:46 AM > > > > > > > > I would like to know more about glutathione. What is it for and how has > > it helped you? How much do you need to take? > > Glutathione is the body's main antioxidant, helping you rid yourself of > heavy metals and viruses. In chronically ill people, glutathione is > typically depleted. I've read that taking glutathione supplements > may not absorb all that well, although there are supplements which > indirectly boost glutathione levels, like OSR and Alpha Lipoic Acid > (probably many others). Also, some foods are high in glutathione, > like avocados. > > Personally, ever since I got ill, I have eaten an avocado > almost every day, and still find it beneficial (although fattening, > I'm sure!) > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I was wondering about that Marc. You would have to be able to tolerate the ALA & I can't at this point. shucks! Loni
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> I was wondering about that Marc. You would have to be able to tolerate
> the ALA & I can't at this point. shucks! Loni I have to wonder if all ALA is equally tolerable... I tried one brand earlier this year, and got side effects even at 1 mg per dose. Then I tried another brand, and got no side effects at 10 mg (although I do at 25 mg). Yesterday I took over 100 mg of ALA (spread throughout the day), which is pretty good for me! Marc |
Good point Marc. I tried L-Carnitine from three different brands, till I found one I could tolerate!! As for ALA, could it be caused by some type of methylation issue? Kooky --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > I was wondering about that Marc. You would have to be able to tolerate > > the ALA & I can't at this point. shucks! Loni > > I have to wonder if all ALA is equally tolerable... I tried one > brand earlier this year, and got side effects even at 1 mg per dose. > Then I tried another brand, and got no side effects at 10 mg > (although I do at 25 mg). > > Yesterday I took over 100 mg of ALA (spread throughout the day), > which is pretty good for me! > > Marc > |
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Interesting. Hmmmm
--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] ALA To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 2:48 PM > I was wondering about that Marc. You would have to be able to tolerate > the ALA & I can't at this point. shucks! Loni I have to wonder if all ALA is equally tolerable... I tried one brand earlier this year, and got side effects even at 1 mg per dose. Then I tried another brand, and got no side effects at 10 mg (although I do at 25 mg). Yesterday I took over 100 mg of ALA (spread throughout the day), which is pretty good for me! Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> I have to wonder if all ALA is equally tolerable... I tried one
> brand earlier this year, and got side effects even at 1 mg per dose. > Then I tried another brand, and got no side effects at 10 mg > (although I do at 25 mg). > > Yesterday I took over 100 mg of ALA (spread throughout the day), > which is pretty good for me! > > Marc > Hi Marc, Interesting to hear about your ALA-experience. Could it be that the brand you got side effects from at 1 mg is better absorbed than the one you have to take 25 mg to get the side effects from? For me, ALA is ALA. The same amount of the ALA molecule should have the same effect independent of the name of the brand. What brands did you take? Was perhaps one taken as a tablet and the other in a capsule? Or have you perhaps done something different between trying the two ALA-products, like taking new supplements, e.g. adrenal support? Thanks, John. |
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> Interesting to hear about your ALA-experience. Could it be that the brand
> you got side effects from at 1 mg is better absorbed than the one you > have to take 25 mg to get the side effects from? Yes, I could think of a lot of potential reasons... 1) one brand is more effective than the other 2) one brand has fillers that are causing side effects or affecting absorption 3) my tolerance for ALA has improved (I have indeed been taking adrenal support supplements) The first brand (low tolerance) was from a compounding pharmacy in South Africa, where they make especially low doses for people who are intolerant and/or using a frequent dosing schedule: http://livingnetwork.co.za/zencart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65_67 The second brand (higher tolerance) is from Kirkman Labs, which has the smallest dosage I could find commercially (25 mg per capsule), and has a "hypoallergenic" version for sensitive people. They claim to have the highest quality ALA available, imported from Germany: http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ViewProductDetails@Product_ID@... Both were in capsules. Marc |
so are you saying you did find with both of these ALA's Marc? Loni
--- On Sat, 1/2/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ALA To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 9:32 AM > Interesting to hear about your ALA-experience. Could it be that the brand > you got side effects from at 1 mg is better absorbed than the one you > have to take 25 mg to get the side effects from? Yes, I could think of a lot of potential reasons... 1) one brand is more effective than the other 2) one brand has fillers that are causing side effects or affecting absorption 3) my tolerance for ALA has improved (I have indeed been taking adrenal support supplements) The first brand (low tolerance) was from a compounding pharmacy in South Africa, where they make especially low doses for people who are intolerant and/or using a frequent dosing schedule: http://livingnetwor k.co.za/zencart/ index.php? main_page= index&cPath=65_67 The second brand (higher tolerance) is from Kirkman Labs, which has the smallest dosage I could find commercially (25 mg per capsule), and has a "hypoallergenic" version for sensitive people. They claim to have the highest quality ALA available, imported from Germany: http://www.kirkmanl abs.com/ViewProd uctDetails@ Product_ID@ 36.aspx Both were in capsules. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> so are you saying you did find with both of these ALA's Marc? Loni
I'm not sure what you are asking Loni, but for now I am continuing with the Kirkman ALA, which is cheaper and more tolerable. Marc |
Sorry spelling error (did fine) in other words; tolerated both brandsof ALA? I was interested in the Kirkman so I will look for it. Loni
--- On Sat, 1/2/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ALA To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 11:03 AM > so are you saying you did find with both of these ALA's Marc? Loni I'm not sure what you are asking Loni, but for now I am continuing with the Kirkman ALA, which is cheaper and more tolerable. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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