ES & heavy metal toxins

> Sorry spelling error (did fine) in other words;  tolerated both brands of
> ALA? I was interested in the Kirkman so I will look for it. Loni

Well it's all a matter of dosage, and some would claim frequency of dose.
Fans of "frequent dose chelation" will tell you that you have to take
ALA every 3 hours, day and night, for a few days and then take a break
of a week or more.

Taking it this way, I get side effects (anxiety, mostly) from taking 25mg
of the Kirkman ALA every 3 hours, but no side effects at half that amount
(half of the contents of the capsule dumped out). And then after you've
finished with that "round", you'll probably get the worst side effects
as the level of ALA in your bloodstream drops and any mobilized
metals don't get taken out of your body. So my worst side effects are
usually 6 - 24 hours after I've stopped taking the ALA every 3 hours.

Marc

 Even when you are sleeping? Wake up to take the ALA?  I don't know that I would go that far. What do you dump the half capsule in? Water?  Do you still do it that way?
 
Loni

--- On Sat, 1/2/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ALA
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 11:51 AM


 



> Sorry spelling error (did fine) in other words;  tolerated both brands of
> ALA? I was interested in the Kirkman so I will look for it. Loni

Well it's all a matter of dosage, and some would claim frequency of dose.
Fans of "frequent dose chelation" will tell you that you have to take
ALA every 3 hours, day and night, for a few days and then take a break
of a week or more.

Taking it this way, I get side effects (anxiety, mostly) from taking 25mg
of the Kirkman ALA every 3 hours, but no side effects at half that amount
(half of the contents of the capsule dumped out). And then after you've
finished with that "round", you'll probably get the worst side effects
as the level of ALA in your bloodstream drops and any mobilized
metals don't get taken out of your body. So my worst side effects are
usually 6 - 24 hours after I've stopped taking the ALA every 3 hours.

Marc








     

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> Even when you are sleeping? Wake up to take the ALA?  I don't know that
> I would go that far. What do you dump the half capsule in? Water? 
> Do you still do it that way?

Yes, even while sleeping... although they say that taking it every 4 hours
during this time is okay, so I take it at 11pm, 3am, 7am. I have a little
timer/alarm with me that can be set to beep or vibrate, and I have that
nearby all day and night when I'm doing this, along with a small container
of 7 capsules for the day that have had half their contents dumped out in
advance.

I avoided doing this for years because it seemed like too much of a hassle,
but once you do it a few times you get used to it. Although for me,
the portable alarm is essential!

Marc
 

Hi Marc,
and thanks for the reply!

You wrote:
> Yes, I could think of a lot of potential reasons...
> 1) one brand is more effective than the other

This is just my point. If you take ALA, you should be getting
ALA. How can ALA be more effective than ALA???

> 2) one brand has fillers that are causing side effects or affecting
> absorption

Yes, possibly, but not likely.

> 3) my tolerance for ALA has improved (I have indeed
> been taking adrenal support supplements)
>

This is the more likely reason, in my oppinion.
Can you tell me what new adrenal support supplements you've
been taking between taking the two different ALA-brands?
(Is it the russian root formula?)

I think personally that people with eSens have generally
a dysfunctional adrenal-function, and that this is the reason
why tolerance to heavy metal detoxification is so low.

Thanks again,
John.

> This is just my point. If you take ALA, you should be getting
> ALA. How can ALA be more effective than ALA???

Well, technically, "ALA" is a component of food, and the pills
we take a chemical impersonations of this food. So different
manufacturing processes can create a different "ALA". We've
already seen some manufacturers selling R-ALA, and claiming
it is more natural than regular ALA, and also more potent.
So not ALA is the same.

> This is the more likely reason, in my oppinion.
> Can you tell me what new adrenal support supplements you've
> been taking between taking the two different ALA-brands?
> (Is it the russian root formula?)

I've been taking lots of things -- Dr. Wilson's Adrenal
Rebuilder, IsoCort, Drenamin, Drenatrophin PMG, and a bit
of Adrenal Cortex from Nutricology. Also Eleuthero (Siberian
Ginseng) from Medi-Herb.

Marc

Hi, Marc,
 
I also think we sometimes lack other vitamins and minerals which work alongwith ALA which then influence how well (or  not) it works.  Rarely do supplements work in total isolation--sorry, I am having problems withword finding.  But you know what I mean.  ;)
 
My 2 pennies,
Diane

--- On Sat, 1/2/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ALA
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 1:51 PM


 



> Sorry spelling error (did fine) in other words;  tolerated both brands of
> ALA? I was interested in the Kirkman so I will look for it. Loni

Well it's all a matter of dosage, and some would claim frequency of dose.
Fans of "frequent dose chelation" will tell you that you have to take
ALA every 3 hours, day and night, for a few days and then take a break
of a week or more.

Taking it this way, I get side effects (anxiety, mostly) from taking 25mg
of the Kirkman ALA every 3 hours, but no side effects at half that amount
(half of the contents of the capsule dumped out). And then after you've
finished with that "round", you'll probably get the worst side effects
as the level of ALA in your bloodstream drops and any mobilized
metals don't get taken out of your body. So my worst side effects are
usually 6 - 24 hours after I've stopped taking the ALA every 3 hours.

Marc








     

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My favorites are Geronova R Lipoic and Quantum DHLA. Quantum is super pure.Geronova is pure especially in bulk powder.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

> My favorites are Geronova R Lipoic and Quantum DHLA. Quantum is super
> pure. Geronova is pure especially in bulk powder.

And why are these your favorites? Reaction? Side Effects?

Marc

Hi Bill,

I like your car shielding idea. How would you adhere the veil shield to the
windows themselves. I want to try this.

Thanks.

Michelle




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From: "Bill Bruno" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: glutathione


Suggest to the local gov't that the police should be upgraded to
Lidar (laser). It still might affect her though. In fact, first try
buying about 5 feet of "veil shield" from Less EMF. Also some microwave
absorber perhaps. In daytime I drive with veilshield across the
windshield (held up by the visors) if I expect to encounter strong
microwaves. At night it does make vision harder due to
lights diffracting, and I generally only use it at stop lights near
cell towers at night (although it's not impossible to drive with it
at night if visibility is otherwise good and there's little oncoming
traffic).

My side and rear windows are shielded with ScotchTint amber-metallic;
otherwise I'd want veil shield on all those too. The absorber I have on
the dash and rear deck, but I don't think that's critical.

I just started taking RLA finally. Will let you know if it has any
dramatic results. Also curcumin.

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