Hi everyone,
Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. Thanks, Cheryl |
Hi, Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels Hi everyone, Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. Thanks, Cheryl [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi Lizzie,
I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... Thanks for the response. Cheryl ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels Hi, Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels Hi everyone, Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. Thanks, Cheryl [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome)
by McBride http://www.gaps.me/ Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. Andrew On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: > Hi Lizzie, > > I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... > > > Thanks for the response. > > Cheryl > > > > ________________________________ > From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM > Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > > > > > Hi, > Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. > Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. > Lizzie > > > To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 > Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > > Hi everyone, > > Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. > > Thanks, > > Cheryl > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
Of course I must add to that I believe EMF causes adrenal stress, sugar levels to spike (insulin problems), and can cause this viscous cycle on its own without blaming it on food. I do believe we have control over how strong our bodies are or can become in relation to this stressor by limiting EMF exposure, healthy probiotic diet, low sugar/grain intake, etc. In talking about Estrogen, I must mention how plastic (drinking from plastic bottles, etc) falsely imitates natural Estrogen and replaces it which throws that system out of whack.
With so many toxins, vaccine ingredients floating in our system, and other disturbing factors, I don't think it is accurate to blame just one causative factor but a world of hell breaking us down. Removing one by one and replacing it with better solutions is my current goal to make this more a heaven on Earth. Hope is what I choose. with love, Andrew On Nov 5, 2011, at 6:31 AM, Andrew McAfee wrote: > GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) > by McBride > > http://www.gaps.me/ > > Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. > > She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. > > Andrew > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: > >> Hi Lizzie, >> >> I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... >> >> >> Thanks for the response. >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM >> Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. >> Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. >> Lizzie >> >> >> To: [hidden email] >> From: [hidden email] >> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 >> Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
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Hi Cheryl, In mainstream medicine, they call it "autoimmune or hashimoto's", I believe. They never bother to explain what's actually happening. (big surprise). The thryoid gland is extremely sensitive. It doesn't take much to throw it out of balance. And there are stages of thryoid stress. With some, the thryoid will go into over action, this is called: hyPER-thyroid, per meaning too much. With others, the thryoid down cycles, this is called: hyPO- thyroid, not enough. Either way, whether its over ACTIVE, or UNDER active, this is still telling you that there is somethng out of balance with the thyroid gland. Both condtions can share many similarities. Both can cause thinning hair, puffy eyes, digestive problems, candida problems, dry skin, flaky scalp, etc. Usually those with an under active (hyPO-thyroid) will have low energy while the hyPER thryoid condition will be alot of energy, but of a more nervous kind of energy. Both will tend to fog the brain, so lack of clarity, poor memory effects both conditions, as with being overly emotional, crying easily, stressing out easily, etc. The two things I see commonly as the differences betw over active and under active is this: with under active, the person is COLD all the time. With over active, the person is too hot. This isn't surprising, if you understand that the thryoid contrls the body's temperatures, it is the thermostat of the body. When its cold, the body calls for more heat. When its hot, a healthy body can tolerate the heat without being over heated. Also, weight issues. With under active, the body tends to gain weight, unless the adrenals are severely effected, in which case, the person can lose weight. With over active, the metablolism is speeded up, and the person may be able to eat like a horse...the nervous energy, always having to move, burns calories. Both conditions tend NOT To sleep well, or deeply. Sometimes, people's thryoid can swing b ack and forth...up and down. This signals that the body is trying to balance itself, but is unable too. And I have seen people get stuck in the over active sometimes for long long periods of time. Then, all the sudden, the thryoid loses steam, and starts to down cycle, and the weight comes on....the symptoms become more severe, and the thryoid is now officially UNDER active. In the beginning of the stage, the thryoid if it starts out healthy and becomes stresses, may up cycle into the over active stage. This would be like stage one and two of thyroid distress. When the thryoid down cycles, it is now under active and this would be like stage threee and four. Sometimes it will get stuck in the over active and they call this "Graves Disease". This is where you will see the eyes bulge out, very unnatural. Mainstream usually ZAPS the thyroid is these cases, they think radiatiing the thryoid and killing a part of it, is the answer. (NOT!) Then the person will have to take thryoid meds for life. **When I describe thryoid stages, these are MY descriptions. What people need to understand is that both the thryoid gland and the adrenal glands play a HUGE role in immune health. These two glands work together. Lizzie An excellent book to read on the thryoid is: Your Thyroid and How to Keep It Healthy (9781905140107): Barry ... www.amazon.com Books Health, Mind & Body To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:31:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) by McBride http://www.gaps.me/ Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. Andrew On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: > Hi Lizzie, > > I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... > > > Thanks for the response. > > Cheryl > > > > ________________________________ > From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM > Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > > > > > Hi, > Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. > Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. > Lizzie > > > To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 > Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > > Hi everyone, > > Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. > > Thanks, > > Cheryl > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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Andrew, YOu are absolutely right ON! These are all pieces of the puzzle. The one thing I would add, is: that emf's especially wireless radiation amplifies/magnifies all the other toxins. Google Dr. Deitrich Klinghardt, he states that when you expose any micro toxin/mold etc to the field of radiation, it will multiply 600 TIMES! No wonder candida/parasites/ heavy metals are such a huge issue these days! Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:42:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels Of course I must add to that I believe EMF causes adrenal stress, sugar levels to spike (insulin problems), and can cause this viscous cycle on its own without blaming it on food. I do believe we have control over how strong our bodies are or can become in relation to this stressor by limiting EMF exposure, healthy probiotic diet, low sugar/grain intake, etc. In talking about Estrogen, I must mention how plastic (drinking from plastic bottles, etc) falsely imitates natural Estrogen and replaces it which throws that system out of whack. With so many toxins, vaccine ingredients floating in our system, and other disturbing factors, I don't think it is accurate to blame just one causative factor but a world of hell breaking us down. Removing one by one and replacing it with better solutions is my current goal to make this more a heaven on Earth. Hope is what I choose. with love, Andrew On Nov 5, 2011, at 6:31 AM, Andrew McAfee wrote: > GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) > by McBride > > http://www.gaps.me/ > > Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. > > She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. > > Andrew > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: > >> Hi Lizzie, >> >> I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... >> >> >> Thanks for the response. >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM >> Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. >> Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. >> Lizzie >> >> >> To: [hidden email] >> From: [hidden email] >> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 >> Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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The thryoid makes 9 hormones. I tend to look at the big picture and ask: what IS CAUSING THIS IMBALANCE? And how can I fix it? While regular medicine/mainstream medicne tends to say: "here, take more estrogen, or take these hormones, or take this, or take that." Read the book I posted on the other email. It is , in my opinion, having studied both the thryoid and adrenal stuff for years... the absolute most accurate and helpful source of information I have found, to date. IN short, you can plug the leak, OR you can find out what is CAUSING the problem to start with. If you merely plug the leak, the problem is still there. You've only put a bandaide on it. And you have chosen a path that is ripe with more problems to happen down the road. But if you take the time/effort to find OUT what's causing the problem, and address that; you've made sure to fix both the leak AND what's causing it. To me, its a win win- to take the time to fix the problem and not just fix the symptom. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 23:17:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels Hi Lizzie, I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... Thanks for the response. Cheryl ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels Hi, Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels Hi everyone, Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. Thanks, Cheryl [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Lizzie do you have a study or an article by Dr Klinghart about this please? I have been researching smart meters for the last few months and though I had heard of what you say,I have not found any studies etc that refers to it. I am taking my hydro company to court and would dearly love to have a study on this if possible......
blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote: > > > Andrew, > YOu are absolutely right ON! These are all pieces of the puzzle. The one thing I would add, is: that emf's especially wireless radiation amplifies/magnifies all the other toxins. > Google Dr. Deitrich Klinghardt, he states that when you expose any micro toxin/mold etc to the field of radiation, it will multiply 600 TIMES! No wonder candida/parasites/ heavy metals are such a huge issue these days! > Lizzie > > > > > To: [hidden email] > From: amcafeerr@... > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:42:26 -0400 > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > > > > > > > Of course I must add to that I believe EMF causes adrenal stress, sugar levels to spike (insulin problems), and can cause this viscous cycle on its own without blaming it on food. I do believe we have control over how strong our bodies are or can become in relation to this stressor by limiting EMF exposure, healthy probiotic diet, low sugar/grain intake, etc. In talking about Estrogen, I must mention how plastic (drinking from plastic bottles, etc) falsely imitates natural Estrogen and replaces it which throws that system out of whack. > With so many toxins, vaccine ingredients floating in our system, and other disturbing factors, I don't think it is accurate to blame just one causative factor but a world of hell breaking us down. > Removing one by one and replacing it with better solutions is my current goal to make this more a heaven on Earth. > Hope is what I choose. > with love, > Andrew > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 6:31 AM, Andrew McAfee wrote: > > > GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) > > by McBride > > > > http://www.gaps.me/ > > > > Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. > > > > She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. > > > > Andrew > > > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: > > > >> Hi Lizzie, > >> > >> I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... > >> > >> > >> Thanks for the response. > >> > >> Cheryl > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> > >> To: [hidden email] > >> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM > >> Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. > >> Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. > >> Lizzie > >> > >> > >> To: [hidden email] > >> From: cheryl_griffing@... > >> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 > >> Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Cheryl > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------ > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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GAPS sounds an AWFUL LOT like celiac disease, Andrew! Celiac disease acted exactly that way for me when I was young. My adrenals were toast from my early teens on. By age 16, I had had my first bout with pancreatitis. From there, it was downhill to even worse and more dangerous things. I next had pernicious anemia (sign of severe vitamin/ mineral deficiency and gut leaking) and then serious liver disease.
How is that (celiac diet) going for you, btw? Have you been able to notice anything good, yet? It took at least a year till I started improving. I saw tiny improvements at about 10 months. Hope it goes quicker for you. Good luck, Diane ________________________________ From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) by McBride http://www.gaps.me/ Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. Andrew On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: > Hi Lizzie, > > I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... > > > Thanks for the response. > > Cheryl > > > > ________________________________ > From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM > Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > > > > > Hi, > Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. > Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. > Lizzie > > > To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 > Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > > Hi everyone, > > Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. > > Thanks, > > Cheryl > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I have become much more sensitive to sugars in all of its forms, grains, alcohol, sweets, etc. My feet will tingle from lack of circulation or become hot at night after having sugar.
It seems by body is becoming more sensitive and is communicating louder and louder as I remove it more and more. I did get a DNA test that showed I was Celiac as well, a low level functioning one, but none the less, technically a celiac result. So, my wife and I are off grains as much as possible. I think there is something else that is cause a system wide shut down and screwing things up on a larger level and this is just one thing. I don't have hard proof yet. Still doing tests. Did a $550 test last month on mold and this month a $650 on fungus/yeast. We'll see after researching the data with my health counselor/chinese herbalist/acupuncturist. I'll let you know if I find some relevant to others. Thank you Diane. Please share what works for you. Andrew On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Evie wrote: > GAPS sounds an AWFUL LOT like celiac disease, Andrew! Celiac disease acted exactly that way for me when I was young. My adrenals were toast from my early teens on. By age 16, I had had my first bout with pancreatitis. From there, it was downhill to even worse and more dangerous things. I next had pernicious anemia (sign of severe vitamin/ mineral deficiency and gut leaking) and then serious liver disease. > > > How is that (celiac diet) going for you, btw? Have you been able to notice anything good, yet? It took at least a year till I started improving. I saw tiny improvements at about 10 months. Hope it goes quicker for you. > > Good luck, > Diane > > > > ________________________________ > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:31 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > > GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) > by McBride > > http://www.gaps.me/ > > Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. > > She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. > > Andrew > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: > >> Hi Lizzie, >> >> I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... >> >> >> Thanks for the response. >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM >> Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. >> Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. >> Lizzie >> >> >> To: [hidden email] >> From: [hidden email] >> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 >> Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
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My pleasure! Scroll down to page 51 and you will see where I got the information. There are more articles from Klinghardt, but this presentation is quite thorough. Lizzie Santa Fe I www.docstoc.com/docs/63761766/Santa-Fe-ICached You +1'd this publicly. UndoNov 26, 2010 synergistic effect with all other types of radiation ... effect with other fields, increases mold growth and mycotoxin ... Answering the Vodaphone mystery Dietrich Klinghardt MD, PhD ..... generated by the mold increased 600x. ... To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 19:20:54 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: EMF effects on Estrogen levels Lizzie do you have a study or an article by Dr Klinghart about this please? I have been researching smart meters for the last few months and though I had heard of what you say,I have not found any studies etc that refers to it. I am taking my hydro company to court and would dearly love to have a study on this if possible...... blessings Shan --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote: > > > Andrew, > YOu are absolutely right ON! These are all pieces of the puzzle. The one thing I would add, is: that emf's especially wireless radiation amplifies/magnifies all the other toxins. > Google Dr. Deitrich Klinghardt, he states that when you expose any micro toxin/mold etc to the field of radiation, it will multiply 600 TIMES! No wonder candida/parasites/ heavy metals are such a huge issue these days! > Lizzie > > > > > To: [hidden email] > From: amcafeerr@... > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:42:26 -0400 > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > > > > > > > Of course I must add to that I believe EMF causes adrenal stress, sugar levels to spike (insulin problems), and can cause this viscous cycle on its own without blaming it on food. I do believe we have control over how strong our bodies are or can become in relation to this stressor by limiting EMF exposure, healthy probiotic diet, low sugar/grain intake, etc. In talking about Estrogen, I must mention how plastic (drinking from plastic bottles, etc) falsely imitates natural Estrogen and replaces it which throws that system out of whack. > With so many toxins, vaccine ingredients floating in our system, and other disturbing factors, I don't think it is accurate to blame just one causative factor but a world of hell breaking us down. > Removing one by one and replacing it with better solutions is my current goal to make this more a heaven on Earth. > Hope is what I choose. > with love, > Andrew > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 6:31 AM, Andrew McAfee wrote: > > > GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) > > by McBride > > > > http://www.gaps.me/ > > > > Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. > > > > She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. > > > > Andrew > > > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: > > > >> Hi Lizzie, > >> > >> I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... > >> > >> > >> Thanks for the response. > >> > >> Cheryl > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> > >> To: [hidden email] > >> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM > >> Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. > >> Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. > >> Lizzie > >> > >> > >> To: [hidden email] > >> From: cheryl_griffing@... > >> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 > >> Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Cheryl > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------ > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! 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I have Celiac Disease as well. I had a long road to hoe after finding out. If you are not recovering and having issues with sugars and food, you may want to consider that diary intolerance, specifically casein, oftentimes goes hand in hand with Celiac due to damaged villi being chopped off - also impairing digestion of dairy products which need to be absorbed by villi tips. You may need to give your intestines a break from dairy and possible other intolerances until you can regrow your villi. I have Celiac Sprue, which means I am a non-responder, and have had difficulty growing back the villi. It also means that I am one of the few Celiacs who also react to Oats, which is not a gluten grain, but has a protein that is similar enough to gluten that it causes a reation in my digestive track.. Realize that eating gluten grains for a long period of time has created a very unhealthy bioterrain in your gut, which will take a while to heal and balance out. Specifically, your gut will be full of bacteria and parasites due to impaired digestion, due to damaged villi. Treat accordingly. Elimination fasts, bentonite clay, herbal cleansing protocols, juicing, etc. Superdrove C. Johnson --- On Sun, 11/6/11, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Celiac To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, November 6, 2011, 2:51 AM I have become much more sensitive to sugars in all of its forms, grains, alcohol, sweets, etc. My feet will tingle from lack of circulation or become hot at night after having sugar. It seems by body is becoming more sensitive and is communicating louder and louder as I remove it more and more. I did get a DNA test that showed I was Celiac as well, a low level functioning one, but none the less, technically a celiac result. So, my wife and I are off grains as much as possible. I think there is something else that is cause a system wide shut down and screwing things up on a larger level and this is just one thing. I don't have hard proof yet. Still doing tests. Did a $550 test last month on mold and this month a $650 on fungus/yeast. We'll see after researching the data with my health counselor/chinese herbalist/acupuncturist. I'll let you know if I find some relevant to others. Thank you Diane. Please share what works for you. Andrew On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Evie wrote: > GAPS sounds an AWFUL LOT like celiac disease, Andrew! Celiac disease acted exactly that way for me when I was young. My adrenals were toast from my early teens on. By age 16, I had had my first bout with pancreatitis. From there, it was downhill to even worse and more dangerous things. I next had pernicious anemia (sign of severe vitamin/ mineral deficiency and gut leaking) and then serious liver disease. > > > How is that (celiac diet) going for you, btw? Have you been able to notice anything good, yet? It took at least a year till I started improving. I saw tiny improvements at about 10 months. Hope it goes quicker for you. > > Good luck, > Diane > > > > ________________________________ > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:31 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > > GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) > by McBride > > http://www.gaps.me/ > > Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. > > She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. > > Andrew > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: > >> Hi Lizzie, >> >> I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... >> >> >> Thanks for the response. >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM >> Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. >> Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. >> Lizzie >> >> >> To: [hidden email] >> From: [hidden email] >> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 >> Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi, Andrew,
I also became super-reactive after I went gf. I began reacting to other things very strongly the first 5 to 6 years. [It makes sense if you think about it: if I had it to do over again, I think I would take going totally gf much slower. I think my immune system was so busy putting out gluten antibody police, that they became marauders after the gluten disappeared almost overnight.] My mast cells seemed to go crazy during that time. That was when I began reacting to touching things. I had had MCS for decades, but in the early 2000s it was like MCS on steroids. I then became intolerant to almost all foods. I got over that in the 4th year after going gf by killing off gut bugs galore--bacterial and yeasts--and taking huge amounts of quercitin. I had terrible problems with sugars. I finally gave them up totally the 4th year after I went gf, too. I reacted to sugar like it was an opiate. Not kidding! Seeing pink elephants dancing in the room is no joke. I had the sweats, shakes, and the whole withdrawal deal! I thought I would go insane for about 6 weeks. I was bad when I went gf, too--same thing; I had bad withdrawal, but it was much worse with sugars. My nutritionist said I was likely harboring bad bugs that were dying off, also, causing herxheimer reactions. I had my doubts while going thru it, but I finally made it and it was uphill all the way after that, Andrew! So, hang in there; sugar-free worked for me! Also, I should mention.... I became diabetic just after going gf (I had been pre-diabetic hypoglycemic from the time I first had pancreatitis when I was 16). I think there is something biologically happening when you go gf which affects the way your body processes sugars. I can now eat grains, btw, and have high carb veggies, and can tolerate some actual cane sugar, but it was a good 5 years off sugars before I could tolerate much of these at all. I do find that certain emfs affect my bs. And, it seems, emfs at my old house also made my bs higher--my 3 month average bs dropped 10+ points just from moving. I mention the diabetes because the hot foot thing can be a symptom I get, too--I think it is a diabetic neuropathy symptom (and foot tingling, as well). You might want to ask your doc about that, if you haven't yet. B12 can help neuropathies. You can see about that too. As Cab said, also, I went dairy-free for nearly a year, too. I think you already do that, tho. Good luck; my prayers are with you, Andrew, Diane ________________________________ From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 10:51 PM Subject: [eSens] Celiac I have become much more sensitive to sugars in all of its forms, grains, alcohol, sweets, etc. My feet will tingle from lack of circulation or become hot at night after having sugar. It seems by body is becoming more sensitive and is communicating louder and louder as I remove it more and more. I did get a DNA test that showed I was Celiac as well, a low level functioning one, but none the less, technically a celiac result. So, my wife and I are off grains as much as possible. I think there is something else that is cause a system wide shut down and screwing things up on a larger level and this is just one thing. I don't have hard proof yet. Still doing tests. Did a $550 test last month on mold and this month a $650 on fungus/yeast. We'll see after researching the data with my health counselor/chinese herbalist/acupuncturist. I'll let you know if I find some relevant to others. Thank you Diane. Please share what works for you. Andrew On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Evie wrote: > GAPS sounds an AWFUL LOT like celiac disease, Andrew! Celiac disease acted exactly that way for me when I was young. My adrenals were toast from my early teens on. By age 16, I had had my first bout with pancreatitis. From there, it was downhill to even worse and more dangerous things. I next had pernicious anemia (sign of severe vitamin/ mineral deficiency and gut leaking) and then serious liver disease. > > > How is that (celiac diet) going for you, btw? Have you been able to notice anything good, yet? It took at least a year till I started improving. I saw tiny improvements at about 10 months. Hope it goes quicker for you. > > Good luck, > Diane > > > > ________________________________ > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:31 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels > > GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) > by McBride > > http://www.gaps.me/ > > Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. > > She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. > > Andrew > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: > >> Hi Lizzie, >> >> I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... >> >> >> Thanks for the response. >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM >> Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. >> Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. >> Lizzie >> >> >> To: [hidden email] >> From: [hidden email] >> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 >> Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Good information. I am not dairy free. I culture my raw organic local goat milk into Kefir and do eat raw organic cheese and cultured butter. I love it and don't have any intestinal issues with the cultured products.
Good to know your systems are similar which gives me some confirmation. Thank you! Andrew On Nov 6, 2011, at 1:17 AM, Evie wrote: > Hi, Andrew, > > I also became super-reactive after I went gf. I began reacting to other things very strongly the first 5 to 6 years. [It makes sense if you think about it: if I had it to do over again, I think I would take going totally gf much slower. I think my immune system was so busy putting out gluten antibody police, that they became marauders after the gluten disappeared almost overnight.] My mast cells seemed to go crazy during that time. That was when I began reacting to touching things. I had had MCS for decades, but in the early 2000s it was like MCS on steroids. > > > I then became intolerant to almost all foods. I got over that in the 4th year after going gf by killing off gut bugs galore--bacterial and yeasts--and taking huge amounts of quercitin. > > > I had terrible problems with sugars. I finally gave them up totally the 4th year after I went gf, too. I reacted to sugar like it was an opiate. Not kidding! Seeing pink elephants dancing in the room is no joke. I had the sweats, shakes, and the whole withdrawal deal! I thought I would go insane for about 6 weeks. I was bad when I went gf, too--same thing; I had bad withdrawal, but it was much worse with sugars. My nutritionist said I was likely harboring bad bugs that were dying off, also, causing herxheimer reactions. I had my doubts while going thru it, but I finally made it and it was uphill all the way after that, Andrew! So, hang in there; sugar-free worked for me! > > Also, I should mention.... I became diabetic just after going gf (I had been pre-diabetic hypoglycemic from the time I first had pancreatitis when I was 16). I think there is something biologically happening when you go gf which affects the way your body processes sugars. I can now eat grains, btw, and have high carb veggies, and can tolerate some actual cane sugar, but it was a good 5 years off sugars before I could tolerate much of these at all. I do find that certain emfs affect my bs. And, it seems, emfs at my old house also made my bs higher--my 3 month average bs dropped 10+ points just from moving. I mention the diabetes because the hot foot thing can be a symptom I get, too--I think it is a diabetic neuropathy symptom (and foot tingling, as well). You might want to ask your doc about that, if you haven't yet. B12 can help neuropathies. You can see about that too. > > > As Cab said, also, I went dairy-free for nearly a year, too. I think you already do that, tho. > > Good luck; my prayers are with you, Andrew, > Diane > > > > ________________________________ > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 10:51 PM > Subject: [eSens] Celiac > > I have become much more sensitive to sugars in all of its forms, grains, alcohol, sweets, etc. My feet will tingle from lack of circulation or become hot at night after having sugar. > It seems by body is becoming more sensitive and is communicating louder and louder as I remove it more and more. > I did get a DNA test that showed I was Celiac as well, a low level functioning one, but none the less, technically a celiac result. > So, my wife and I are off grains as much as possible. > I think there is something else that is cause a system wide shut down and screwing things up on a larger level and this is just one thing. I don't have hard proof yet. Still doing tests. Did a $550 test last month on mold and this month a $650 on fungus/yeast. We'll see after researching the data with my health counselor/chinese herbalist/acupuncturist. > I'll let you know if I find some relevant to others. > Thank you Diane. Please share what works for you. > Andrew > > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Evie wrote: > >> GAPS sounds an AWFUL LOT like celiac disease, Andrew! Celiac disease acted exactly that way for me when I was young. My adrenals were toast from my early teens on. By age 16, I had had my first bout with pancreatitis. From there, it was downhill to even worse and more dangerous things. I next had pernicious anemia (sign of severe vitamin/ mineral deficiency and gut leaking) and then serious liver disease. >> >> >> How is that (celiac diet) going for you, btw? Have you been able to notice anything good, yet? It took at least a year till I started improving. I saw tiny improvements at about 10 months. Hope it goes quicker for you. >> >> Good luck, >> Diane >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) >> by McBride >> >> http://www.gaps.me/ >> >> Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. >> >> She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. >> >> Andrew >> >> On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: >> >>> Hi Lizzie, >>> >>> I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the response. >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> >>> To: [hidden email] >>> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM >>> Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. >>> Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. >>> Lizzie >>> >>> >>> To: [hidden email] >>> From: [hidden email] >>> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 >>> Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
If you could start from scratch....what would you do to protect everyone inside from EMF's.
We are trying to start thinking about this now as we will be able to do something like this in a couple years. Mahalo, Christin Brezil Grain-Free Granola Head, wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." ~ Leonardo da Vinci http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin http://www.westonaprice.org/ http://www.gaps.me/ ________________________________ From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Celiac Good information. I am not dairy free. I culture my raw organic local goat milk into Kefir and do eat raw organic cheese and cultured butter. I love it and don't have any intestinal issues with the cultured products. Good to know your systems are similar which gives me some confirmation. Thank you! Andrew On Nov 6, 2011, at 1:17 AM, Evie wrote: > Hi, Andrew, > > I also became super-reactive after I went gf. I began reacting to other things very strongly the first 5 to 6 years. [It makes sense if you think about it: if I had it to do over again, I think I would take going totally gf much slower. I think my immune system was so busy putting out gluten antibody police, that they became marauders after the gluten disappeared almost overnight.] My mast cells seemed to go crazy during that time. That was when I began reacting to touching things. I had had MCS for decades, but in the early 2000s it was like MCS on steroids. > > > I then became intolerant to almost all foods. I got over that in the 4th year after going gf by killing off gut bugs galore--bacterial and yeasts--and taking huge amounts of quercitin. > > > I had terrible problems with sugars. I finally gave them up totally the 4th year after I went gf, too. I reacted to sugar like it was an opiate. Not kidding! Seeing pink elephants dancing in the room is no joke. I had the sweats, shakes, and the whole withdrawal deal! I thought I would go insane for about 6 weeks. I was bad when I went gf, too--same thing; I had bad withdrawal, but it was much worse with sugars. My nutritionist said I was likely harboring bad bugs that were dying off, also, causing herxheimer reactions. I had my doubts while going thru it, but I finally made it and it was uphill all the way after that, Andrew! So, hang in there; sugar-free worked for me! > > Also, I should mention.... I became diabetic just after going gf (I had been pre-diabetic hypoglycemic from the time I first had pancreatitis when I was 16). I think there is something biologically happening when you go gf which affects the way your body processes sugars. I can now eat grains, btw, and have high carb veggies, and can tolerate some actual cane sugar, but it was a good 5 years off sugars before I could tolerate much of these at all. I do find that certain emfs affect my bs. And, it seems, emfs at my old house also made my bs higher--my 3 month average bs dropped 10+ points just from moving. I mention the diabetes because the hot foot thing can be a symptom I get, too--I think it is a diabetic neuropathy symptom (and foot tingling, as well). You might want to ask your doc about that, if you haven't yet. B12 can help neuropathies. You can see about that too. > > > As Cab said, also, I went dairy-free for nearly a year, too. I think you already do that, tho. > > Good luck; my prayers are with you, Andrew, > Diane > > > > ________________________________ > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 10:51 PM > Subject: [eSens] Celiac > > I have become much more sensitive to sugars in all of its forms, grains, alcohol, sweets, etc. My feet will tingle from lack of circulation or become hot at night after having sugar. > It seems by body is becoming more sensitive and is communicating louder and louder as I remove it more and more. > I did get a DNA test that showed I was Celiac as well, a low level functioning one, but none the less, technically a celiac result. > So, my wife and I are off grains as much as possible. > I think there is something else that is cause a system wide shut down and screwing things up on a larger level and this is just one thing. I don't have hard proof yet. Still doing tests. Did a $550 test last month on mold and this month a $650 on fungus/yeast. We'll see after researching the data with my health counselor/chinese herbalist/acupuncturist. > I'll let you know if I find some relevant to others. > Thank you Diane. Please share what works for you. > Andrew > > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Evie wrote: > >> GAPS sounds an AWFUL LOT like celiac disease, Andrew! Celiac disease acted exactly that way for me when I was young. My adrenals were toast from my early teens on. By age 16, I had had my first bout with pancreatitis. From there, it was downhill to even worse and more dangerous things. I next had pernicious anemia (sign of severe vitamin/ mineral deficiency and gut leaking) and then serious liver disease. >> >> >> How is that (celiac diet) going for you, btw? Have you been able to notice anything good, yet? It took at least a year till I started improving. I saw tiny improvements at about 10 months. Hope it goes quicker for you. >> >> Good luck, >> Diane >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) >> by McBride >> >> http://www.gaps.me/ >> >> Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. >> >> She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. >> >> Andrew >> >> On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: >> >>> Hi Lizzie, >>> >>> I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the response. >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> >>> To: [hidden email] >>> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM >>> Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. >>> Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. >>> Lizzie >>> >>> >>> To: [hidden email] >>> From: [hidden email] >>> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 >>> Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I would totally design the house to be OFF the GRID. Why? Because even if "you" don't use any wireless, the grid is connected to all those who do. So YOUR house wiring will be carrying those RF (radio frequency) emf's/signals/dirty electricity- even if you have NO wireless in your house. If that wasn't a possible, then I would design the house so that ALL sleeping areas had demand switches so ALL electrical in those bedrooms could be absolutely SHUT DOWN at night. This means there can be NO ceiling lights under the bedrooms, unless you can shut those rooms down too. I would design "my" bedroom with NO electrical, no wiring in ANY of my walls, floors or ceilings. If this isn't do-able, then I'd only have one wall with wiring (shielded wiring) and make sure all beds are NOT on that wall. I would have my wiring be done using MC Cable, which is shielded cable, used mostly in commercial buildings. This way, the wiring would be very low emfs. I would have NO metal plumbing anywhere in the house...use pvc or plastic piping. **I would have my own well (**water source) because anyone connected to city water/munical water supplies will HAVE stray voltage coming into your house, via the city's water line. I would not have a house with metal steel framing or support joists...as this would act as an antenna. The outside structure would be stone or brick. I would not have granite counter tops as some of these can outgass nasty chemicals. I would only use truly environmental safe building materials, any many wall boards are made of formaldyhyde. Floors would be wooden/oak ect...no carpet unless real fiber such as wool. And although metal aluminum roofs do last longer, I hesitate to use these, because whether or not people are aware of this, those who do use wireless technologies, do OUTGASS or emit radiation from their bodies. If we could SEE this energy radiating off of these people, it would be so easy to understand. Suffice it to say, that just as people who spray liberal amts of nasty perfumes *(read that to be CHEMICALS-ENDOCRINE DISRUPTORS) on their body, and then when we walk thru that PLUME of chemicals, we end up breathing it, wearing it. OH, and I'd test that well. Many water supplies includng wells have been contaminated. I'd also check the area for: 307 EPA clean up sites, and fracking sites (drilling for natural gas) as this process also contaminates surrounding water supplies. I'd also, if I had to be on the grid, have the main power box be located in a detached garage or out building. NOT IN MY HOUSE. LIzzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 13:48:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [eSens] Building a house from scratch If you could start from scratch....what would you do to protect everyone inside from EMF's. We are trying to start thinking about this now as we will be able to do something like this in a couple years. Mahalo, Christin Brezil Grain-Free Granola Head, wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." ~ Leonardo da Vinci http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin http://www.westonaprice.org/ http://www.gaps.me/ ________________________________ From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Celiac Good information. I am not dairy free. I culture my raw organic local goat milk into Kefir and do eat raw organic cheese and cultured butter. I love it and don't have any intestinal issues with the cultured products. Good to know your systems are similar which gives me some confirmation. Thank you! Andrew On Nov 6, 2011, at 1:17 AM, Evie wrote: > Hi, Andrew, > > I also became super-reactive after I went gf. I began reacting to other things very strongly the first 5 to 6 years. [It makes sense if you think about it: if I had it to do over again, I think I would take going totally gf much slower. I think my immune system was so busy putting out gluten antibody police, that they became marauders after the gluten disappeared almost overnight.] My mast cells seemed to go crazy during that time. That was when I began reacting to touching things. I had had MCS for decades, but in the early 2000s it was like MCS on steroids. > > > I then became intolerant to almost all foods. I got over that in the 4th year after going gf by killing off gut bugs galore--bacterial and yeasts--and taking huge amounts of quercitin. > > > I had terrible problems with sugars. I finally gave them up totally the 4th year after I went gf, too. I reacted to sugar like it was an opiate. Not kidding! Seeing pink elephants dancing in the room is no joke. I had the sweats, shakes, and the whole withdrawal deal! I thought I would go insane for about 6 weeks. I was bad when I went gf, too--same thing; I had bad withdrawal, but it was much worse with sugars. My nutritionist said I was likely harboring bad bugs that were dying off, also, causing herxheimer reactions. I had my doubts while going thru it, but I finally made it and it was uphill all the way after that, Andrew! So, hang in there; sugar-free worked for me! > > Also, I should mention.... I became diabetic just after going gf (I had been pre-diabetic hypoglycemic from the time I first had pancreatitis when I was 16). I think there is something biologically happening when you go gf which affects the way your body processes sugars. I can now eat grains, btw, and have high carb veggies, and can tolerate some actual cane sugar, but it was a good 5 years off sugars before I could tolerate much of these at all. I do find that certain emfs affect my bs. And, it seems, emfs at my old house also made my bs higher--my 3 month average bs dropped 10+ points just from moving. I mention the diabetes because the hot foot thing can be a symptom I get, too--I think it is a diabetic neuropathy symptom (and foot tingling, as well). You might want to ask your doc about that, if you haven't yet. B12 can help neuropathies. You can see about that too. > > > As Cab said, also, I went dairy-free for nearly a year, too. I think you already do that, tho. > > Good luck; my prayers are with you, Andrew, > Diane > > > > ________________________________ > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 10:51 PM > Subject: [eSens] Celiac > > I have become much more sensitive to sugars in all of its forms, grains, alcohol, sweets, etc. My feet will tingle from lack of circulation or become hot at night after having sugar. > It seems by body is becoming more sensitive and is communicating louder and louder as I remove it more and more. > I did get a DNA test that showed I was Celiac as well, a low level functioning one, but none the less, technically a celiac result. > So, my wife and I are off grains as much as possible. > I think there is something else that is cause a system wide shut down and screwing things up on a larger level and this is just one thing. I don't have hard proof yet. Still doing tests. Did a $550 test last month on mold and this month a $650 on fungus/yeast. We'll see after researching the data with my health counselor/chinese herbalist/acupuncturist. > I'll let you know if I find some relevant to others. > Thank you Diane. Please share what works for you. > Andrew > > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Evie wrote: > >> GAPS sounds an AWFUL LOT like celiac disease, Andrew! Celiac disease acted exactly that way for me when I was young. My adrenals were toast from my early teens on. By age 16, I had had my first bout with pancreatitis. From there, it was downhill to even worse and more dangerous things. I next had pernicious anemia (sign of severe vitamin/ mineral deficiency and gut leaking) and then serious liver disease. >> >> >> How is that (celiac diet) going for you, btw? Have you been able to notice anything good, yet? It took at least a year till I started improving. I saw tiny improvements at about 10 months. Hope it goes quicker for you. >> >> Good luck, >> Diane >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) >> by McBride >> >> http://www.gaps.me/ >> >> Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. >> >> She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. >> >> Andrew >> >> On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: >> >>> Hi Lizzie, >>> >>> I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the response. >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> >>> To: [hidden email] >>> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM >>> Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. >>> Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. >>> Lizzie >>> >>> >>> To: [hidden email] >>> From: [hidden email] >>> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 >>> Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Conduit! For sure a must! Loni
--- On Mon, 11/7/11, Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Building a house from scratch To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Monday, November 7, 2011, 2:48 PM If you could start from scratch....what would you do to protect everyone inside from EMF's. We are trying to start thinking about this now as we will be able to do something like this in a couple years. Mahalo, Christin Brezil Grain-Free Granola Head, wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." ~ Leonardo da Vinci http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin http://www.westonaprice.org/ http://www.gaps.me/ ________________________________ From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Celiac Good information. I am not dairy free. I culture my raw organic local goat milk into Kefir and do eat raw organic cheese and cultured butter. I love it and don't have any intestinal issues with the cultured products. Good to know your systems are similar which gives me some confirmation. Thank you! Andrew On Nov 6, 2011, at 1:17 AM, Evie wrote: > Hi, Andrew, > > I also became super-reactive after I went gf. I began reacting to other things very strongly the first 5 to 6 years. [It makes sense if you think about it: if I had it to do over again, I think I would take going totally gf much slower. I think my immune system was so busy putting out gluten antibody police, that they became marauders after the gluten disappeared almost overnight.] My mast cells seemed to go crazy during that time. That was when I began reacting to touching things. I had had MCS for decades, but in the early 2000s it was like MCS on steroids. > > > I then became intolerant to almost all foods. I got over that in the 4th year after going gf by killing off gut bugs galore--bacterial and yeasts--and taking huge amounts of quercitin. > > > I had terrible problems with sugars. I finally gave them up totally the 4th year after I went gf, too. I reacted to sugar like it was an opiate. Not kidding! Seeing pink elephants dancing in the room is no joke. I had the sweats, shakes, and the whole withdrawal deal! I thought I would go insane for about 6 weeks. I was bad when I went gf, too--same thing; I had bad withdrawal, but it was much worse with sugars. My nutritionist said I was likely harboring bad bugs that were dying off, also, causing herxheimer reactions. I had my doubts while going thru it, but I finally made it and it was uphill all the way after that, Andrew! So, hang in there; sugar-free worked for me! > > Also, I should mention.... I became diabetic just after going gf (I had been pre-diabetic hypoglycemic from the time I first had pancreatitis when I was 16). I think there is something biologically happening when you go gf which affects the way your body processes sugars. I can now eat grains, btw, and have high carb veggies, and can tolerate some actual cane sugar, but it was a good 5 years off sugars before I could tolerate much of these at all. I do find that certain emfs affect my bs. And, it seems, emfs at my old house also made my bs higher--my 3 month average bs dropped 10+ points just from moving. I mention the diabetes because the hot foot thing can be a symptom I get, too--I think it is a diabetic neuropathy symptom (and foot tingling, as well). You might want to ask your doc about that, if you haven't yet. B12 can help neuropathies. You can see about that too. > > > As Cab said, also, I went dairy-free for nearly a year, too. I think you already do that, tho. > > Good luck; my prayers are with you, Andrew, > Diane > > > > ________________________________ > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 10:51 PM > Subject: [eSens] Celiac > > I have become much more sensitive to sugars in all of its forms, grains, alcohol, sweets, etc. My feet will tingle from lack of circulation or become hot at night after having sugar. > It seems by body is becoming more sensitive and is communicating louder and louder as I remove it more and more. > I did get a DNA test that showed I was Celiac as well, a low level functioning one, but none the less, technically a celiac result. > So, my wife and I are off grains as much as possible. > I think there is something else that is cause a system wide shut down and screwing things up on a larger level and this is just one thing. I don't have hard proof yet. Still doing tests. Did a $550 test last month on mold and this month a $650 on fungus/yeast. We'll see after researching the data with my health counselor/chinese herbalist/acupuncturist. > I'll let you know if I find some relevant to others. > Thank you Diane. Please share what works for you. > Andrew > > > On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Evie wrote: > >> GAPS sounds an AWFUL LOT like celiac disease, Andrew! Celiac disease acted exactly that way for me when I was young. My adrenals were toast from my early teens on. By age 16, I had had my first bout with pancreatitis. From there, it was downhill to even worse and more dangerous things. I next had pernicious anemia (sign of severe vitamin/ mineral deficiency and gut leaking) and then serious liver disease. >> >> >> How is that (celiac diet) going for you, btw? Have you been able to notice anything good, yet? It took at least a year till I started improving. I saw tiny improvements at about 10 months. Hope it goes quicker for you. >> >> Good luck, >> Diane >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 6:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >> >> GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome) >> by McBride >> >> http://www.gaps.me/ >> >> Talks about how too much adrenal stress, cortisol deteriorates the stomach lining which causes reduced stomach acid, lowered food digestion, pancreatic problems, and feeds the whole cycle of thyroid problems, hair loss, etc. >> >> She bases all back to gut probiotics as the ultimate source. >> >> Andrew >> >> On Nov 5, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote: >> >>> Hi Lizzie, >>> >>> I also have thyroid problems, as well as extremely low estrogen levels. Primarily I have the hyper variety of the thyroid, although it did swing to hypo for awhile. Is this common? I get very confused about how all these hormones work together... >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the response. >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> >>> To: [hidden email] >>> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:51 PM >>> Subject: RE: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> Emfs throw the whole thyroid gland out of whack. the thryroid is responsible for making the hormones. >>> Also, any SOY in your food will effect estrogen levels, as SOY mimics estrogen. Also plastics and other chemicals are "endocrine dysrupters" as well. >>> Lizzie >>> >>> >>> To: [hidden email] >>> From: [hidden email] >>> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:56:14 +0000 >>> Subject: [eSens] EMF effects on Estrogen levels >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Does anybody know how EMF effects the levels of estrogen in our bodies, especially in women? I have done some online research on this but at this point am wondering if any of you have had personal experience with this. However, any info would be helpful. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Cheryl >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Here's a list of things to consider.
Scroll down if the first part doesn't apply. http://www.conradbiologic.com/articles/ConstructionGuidelines.html *NON-TOXIC CONSTRUCTION GUIDELINES* by Richard Conrad, Ph.D. updated January 23, 2010 On 11/7/2011 3:38:20 PM, Elizabeth thode ([hidden email]) wrote: > I would totally design the house to be OFF the GRID. > Why? Because even if "you" don't use any wireless, the grid is connected to all those who do. So YOUR house wiring will be carrying > those RF (radio frequency) emf's/signals/dirty electricity- even if you have NO wireless in your house. If that wasn't a possible, then I would design the house so that ALL sleeping areas > had demand switches so ALL electrical in those bedrooms could be absolutely SHUT DOWN at night. This means there can be NO ceiling lights under the bedrooms, {snip} [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi, Loni,
By conduit, I presume you mean metal pipe +/or metal shielded electrical cable? We went that way when we wired our house. At the time, I was fence sitting on the entire idea; I knew it had been recommended by the experts, but I felt a small voice inside saying maybe it was not a good idea. Unfortunately, I did not listen to that “still small voice” and went with it anyway. The experts told me that as long as you can *keep the bad frequencies OUT* of your house, metal-shielded (hospital grade) cable was/ is the way to go. But, I had not really lived in this house for very long, so I didn’t have a clear picture of what I was going to have to keep out (it was an old fixer we bought and remodeled pretty much down to the brick shell, although we kept the hardwood floors intact—some plaster walls stayed, some were replaced). Also, in the couple years since we had the wiring installed, major frequency changes have come along—namely, smart meters and 4LTE. Well, the important words here are “as long as you can keep bad frequencies OUT”. In today’s frequency mine-field, it is not really feasible to believe you will be able to *totally* keep bad frequencies out, period. It just is not going to happen unless you can live somewhere in an underground bunker. Luckily I was able to improve my health enough to make up the difference, because the hospital-grade metal shielded cable, which cost 3 to 4X the cost of regular cable, both for the cable and to install it, did not ultimately work. It works great about 2/3 of the time, but when the neighbors turn on all their wireless gadgets, and the military blasts whatever it is they are using, and the utilities run their smart meter hook-ups, and satellites are beaming frequencies from outer space…. Well, you get the picture. There seems, from my perspective, not to be nearly as many ways to shield when you have metal cable drawing it all in and refracting it around. And this makes sense—if we are admonished not to have metal furniture and mirrors in our homes, why would it then make sound sense to use metal-shielded cable? Just my 2 cents, Diane ________________________________ From: Loni <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Building a house from scratch Conduit! For sure a must! Loni [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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