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Loni Rosser
 
What was the results from the last posts on the crowns?  I need several & dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them. Been doing for 30 years plus.
 
The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with that?
 
Not sure about the adhesive.
 
I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal. 
 
:o)  Loni


     

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Marc Martin
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> What was the results from the last posts on the crowns? 

The general recommendation is to put no metal in your mouth.
So the crown should be metal-free (interior & exterior), and
the materials used to bond to the tooth should be metal-free.

Sometimes a porcelain crown is only porcelain on the outside,
with metal on the inside (for example, nickel).  Also, I had
a porcelain crown that the dentist used gold to bond it to
the tooth.

I think a "normal" / typical dentist may not even be aware
of the metal content of the materials they use.  You may
have better luck with a "holistic" or "mercury-free"
dentist.  

Loni, if you are in Arizona, I see that there are a few
such dentists in Tuscon and Scottsdale:

  http://mercuryfreedentists.com/mercury-free-dentists/arizona.html

Marc
 
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calmriver1@juno.com
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Loni,

The doctor I have been seeing doesn't recommend root canals,I know I have had mine for 30 years and didn't have any problems with it, until I became sensitive.  The doctor who took it out checked to see what materials I am sensitive to. It would be good to go to a biological dentist.  Many people are going to Mexico, and actually my dentist didn't  screw up like I thought, I had it wrong, but it is an emotionally upsetting thing to go through.

Good luck,

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SArjuna
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 When the dentists says he's never had a problem with porcelain crowns he's referring to how they last.  If somoeone got symptoms from a blocked meridian, neither the patient nor the dentist were ever aware of it.

The dentist who put in my titanium pins, and ceramic crowns with metallic colorant, said that not one person besides me had ever had any problem.  I doubt that.  I suppose that no one else ever put 2 + 2 together.

The adhesives can be problematic in the same way.

Does anyone near you do eleectrodermal testing, so you can test for the materials beforehand?

My suggestion would be to have Doug Cook recommend a dentist who works the way he does, who lives near you.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com

 




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steve
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Loni,
I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free though.
If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including cements and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with that.
In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth for 15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or drinking anything.
Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:

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>  
> What was the results from the last posts on the crowns?  I need several & dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them. Been doing for 30 years plus.
>  
> The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with that?
>  
> Not sure about the adhesive.
>  
> I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal. 
>  
> :o)  Loni
>
>
>      
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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Loni Rosser
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Thanks Marc, Steve, &  Maureen!  Trying to use my dentist on my insurance plan because the expense is just too much to go to a holistic dentist. I need several crowns & a bridge. It's really overwhelming.
 
I did have the reactivity test so I'll look at it. I think this dentist is willing to work with me as much as he can  but the office rep said they are not set up to work with sensitive people like me.
 
I need to get 2 of them done asap so to avoid a root canal. I will doing research starting tomorrow. 
 
Intersting that the porcelain has some metal in it. That's not good. Hmmmm..
 
Loni

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Loni,
I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free though.
If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including cements and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with that.
In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth for 15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or drinking anything.
Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:

>
>  
> What was the results from the last posts on the crowns?  I need several & dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them. Been doing for 30 years plus.
>  
> The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with that?
>  
> Not sure about the adhesive.
>  
> I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal. 
>  
> :o)  Loni
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>









     

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Marc Martin
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> Intersting that the porcelain has some metal in it. That's not good.
> Hmmmm..

Well, I'm no expert in porcelain -- it could be that "porcelain" is
a somewhat generic term, and that some have metal inside, and some
do not (?)

Marc
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Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!

Loni Rosser
I will check on it!

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Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 1:54 PM


 



> Intersting that the porcelain has some metal in it. That's not good.
> Hmmmm..

Well, I'm no expert in porcelain -- it could be that "porcelain" is
a somewhat generic term, and that some have metal inside, and some
do not (?)

Marc








     

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OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]

Steph Smith
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Hi Steve

I had another amalgam removal session last Friday - 10 days ago now - and am
still on painkillers - had a bad TMJ episode after the treatment which took over
an hour and am still on painkillers - I don't think there is anything wrong with
the teeth or the new restorations themselves - but there has been excessive
sensitivity[ and hence the pain] on a scale like I have never before
experienced, which I am pretty sure is linked to the TMJ - I have spent whatever
computer time I have had recently googling teeth and pain and sensitivity etc
and on an excellent site [www.healingteethnaturally.com] they recommended oil
pulling for the reasons why you did - I haven' tdone it yet because I only have
extra virgin coconut oil and don't have sesame oil - is there any partic reason
why it has to be sesame oil - does it have particular mineral properties or
anyhting which benefit the teeth??

best wishes

Steph





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Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 19:28:49
Subject: [eSens] Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!

 
Loni,
I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the
dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a
holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a
large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no
nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free
though.
If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very
strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford
Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including cements
and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with that.
In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically
you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth for
15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my
teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or
drinking anything.
Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy
but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from
the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:

>
>  
> What was the results from the last posts on the crowns?  I need several &
>dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them.
>Been doing for 30 years plus.
>
>  
> The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with that?
>  
> Not sure about the adhesive.
>  
> I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal.  
>  
> :o)  Loni
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


 


     

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steve
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Porcelain can have some aluminum in it but usually an all porcelain crown has no metal. A PFM crown is porcelain fused to metal, which is what I got (porcelain fused to mainly gold). A Lava Crown is porcelain fused to zirconia

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

>
> > Intersting that the porcelain has some metal in it. That's not good.
> > Hmmmm..
>
> Well, I'm no expert in porcelain -- it could be that "porcelain" is
> a somewhat generic term, and that some have metal inside, and some
> do not (?)
>
> Marc
>


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steve
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Hi Steph,

It actually can be other oils but the Indians used sesame or sunflower. I chose sesame because it has immune boosting properties and doesn't taste bad.
You can use the coconut oil, I've read that some people do. Coconut also has virus killing properties.
Try it in the AM. If you dont like using that oil get the sesame and give it a shot. It works really well.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Steve
>
> I had another amalgam removal session last Friday - 10 days ago now - and am
> still on painkillers - had a bad TMJ episode after the treatment which took over
> an hour and am still on painkillers - I don't think there is anything wrong with
> the teeth or the new restorations themselves - but there has been excessive
> sensitivity[ and hence the pain] on a scale like I have never before
> experienced, which I am pretty sure is linked to the TMJ - I have spent whatever
> computer time I have had recently googling teeth and pain and sensitivity etc
> and on an excellent site [www.healingteethnaturally.com] they recommended oil
> pulling for the reasons why you did - I haven' tdone it yet because I only have
> extra virgin coconut oil and don't have sesame oil - is there any partic reason
> why it has to be sesame oil - does it have particular mineral properties or
> anyhting which benefit the teeth??
>
> best wishes
>
> Steph
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 19:28:49
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!
>
>  
> Loni,
> I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the
> dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a
> holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a
> large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no
> nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free
> though.
> If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very
> strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford
> Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including cements
> and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with that.
> In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically
> you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth for
> 15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my
> teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or
> drinking anything.
> Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy
> but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from
> the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth.
> Steve
>
> --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> >
> >  
> > What was the results from the last posts on the crowns?  I need several &
> >dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them.
> >Been doing for 30 years plus.
> >
> >  
> > The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with that?
> >  
> > Not sure about the adhesive.
> >  
> > I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal.  
> >  
> > :o)  Loni
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>  
>
>
>      
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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KathyB

A good alternative doctor here recommends it.

 http://www.oilpulling.com/ 

Says it can heal many things. Explains to use cold pressed polyunsaturated oil from seeds stimulate the body to detox.  I need to try it again.

 The articles will explain more. I know it doesn't upset the microflora of the gut. You have to chew swish it. It needs to turn a whitish color. Toxic if swallowed.

Kathy

From: torch369 <[hidden email]>
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To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 10:07 PM







 



 


   
     
     
      Hi Steph,



It actually can be other oils but the Indians used sesame or sunflower. I chose sesame because it has immune boosting properties and doesn't taste bad.

You can use the coconut oil, I've read that some people do. Coconut also has virus killing properties.

Try it in the AM. If you dont like using that oil get the sesame and give it a shot. It works really well.

Steve



--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Steve

>

> I had another amalgam removal session last Friday - 10 days ago now - and am

> still on painkillers - had a bad TMJ episode after the treatment which took over

> an hour and am still on painkillers - I don't think there is anything wrong with

> the teeth or the new restorations themselves - but there has been excessive

> sensitivity[ and hence the pain] on a scale like I have never before

> experienced, which I am pretty sure is linked to the TMJ - I have spent whatever

> computer time I have had recently googling teeth and pain and sensitivity etc

> and on an excellent site [www.healingteethnaturally.com] they recommended oil

> pulling for the reasons why you did - I haven' tdone it yet because I only have

> extra virgin coconut oil and don't have sesame oil - is there any partic reason

> why it has to be sesame oil - does it have particular mineral properties or

> anyhting which benefit the teeth??

>

> best wishes

>

> Steph

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: torch369 <torch369@...>

> To: [hidden email]

> Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 19:28:49

> Subject: [eSens] Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!

>

>  

> Loni,

> I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the

> dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a

> holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a

> large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no

> nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free

> though.

> If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very

> strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford

> Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including cements

> and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with that.

> In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically

> you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth for

> 15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my

> teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or

> drinking anything.

> Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy

> but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from

> the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth.

> Steve

>

> --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:

> >

> >  

> > What was the results from the last posts on the crowns?  I need several &

> >dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them.

> >Been doing for 30 years plus.

> >

> >  

> > The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with that?

> >  

> > Not sure about the adhesive.

> >  

> > I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal.  

> >  

> > :o)  Loni

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

>

>  

>

>

>      

>

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KathyB
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My doc. recommends rinsing & brushing w sea salt & baking soda in warm water after.

First thing in the morning & before bed, around 4 hrs after a meal. 

http://www.preventionandhealing.com/articles/Folk-Remedy-from-Russia.pdf

I pray it helps you. Maybe someone else can help w pain relief ideas.



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A good alternative doctor here recommends it.



 http://www.oilpulling.com/ 



Says it can heal many things. Explains to use cold pressed polyunsaturated oil from seeds stimulate the body to detox.  I need to try it again.



 The articles will explain more. I know it doesn't upset the microflora of the gut. You have to chew swish it. It needs to turn a whitish color. Toxic if swallowed.



Kathy



 





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Loni Rosser
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Oh ok thanks for explaining that Steve! Good to  know!  Loni

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Porcelain can have some aluminum in it but usually an all porcelain crown has no metal. A PFM crown is porcelain fused to metal, which is what I got (porcelain fused to mainly gold). A Lava Crown is porcelain fused to zirconia

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

>
> > Intersting that the porcelain has some metal in it. That's not good.
> > Hmmmm..
>
> Well, I'm no expert in porcelain -- it could be that "porcelain" is
> a somewhat generic term, and that some have metal inside, and some
> do not (?)
>
> Marc
>









     

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evie15422
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Hi, Steph,
 
Sorry to hear you are in such pain.  You can use any kind of oil for oil pulling.  Just pick an oil which you don't like for cooking with or eating, since there is a small chance you will hate the taste of it (and associate it with oil pulling) after some time using it for that.  I use safflower oil for oil pulling since I don't like to cook with it anyway.   But essentially, any oil will do.
 
The best thing to help with tmj pain, is to try not to move your jaw too much.  But this can be difficult if your joint is actually out of place.  Splints are wonderful for this but they are pricey to have professionally made.  When my jaw felt like it was not in the correct position, my doc told me to:
open my mouth as wide as I could, push my lower jaw forward as far as possible, and then slowly close my mouth, to an aligned position.  Splints also help after doing this, and here in the States, you can buy a mouth guard that athletes use and mold a temporary one yourself.  (You put it in  boiling water and bite on it.)  But the thing here is you need to know first that your bite is in the right position, so your alignment is correct (and also, the material used for the splint is possibly not tolerable if you have MCS/EI).  So it is best to practice the procedure I mentioned (opening mouth, etc) a few times till you know you are doing it correctly and getting back to the proper bite.  Also, sometimes from dental work and the irritation of  the jaw being out of place, you end up with inflammation in the joint.  If you have inflammation in the joint, sometimes you cannot put your jaw back in place till the inflammation calms down.  In that
 case, there is not much you can do but take pain killers and try to rest your jaw as much as possible.

Oil pulling will benefit the teeth, in time, by pulling out any (generic term) parasitic infections you have in the gums and making the teeth less of a breeding ground for them.  But you have to keep at it long-term.
 
Hope you are soon feeling much better, Steph,
Diane
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Hi Steve

I had another amalgam removal session last Friday - 10 days ago now - and am
still on painkillers - had a bad TMJ episode after the treatment which took over
an hour and am still on painkillers - I don't think there is anything wrong with
the teeth or the new restorations themselves - but there has been excessive
sensitivity[ and hence the pain] on a scale like I have never before
experienced, which I am pretty sure is linked to the TMJ - I have spent whatever
computer time I have had recently googling teeth and pain and sensitivity etc
and on an excellent site [www.healingteethnaturally.com] they recommended oil
pulling for the reasons why you did - I haven' tdone it yet because I only have
extra virgin coconut oil and don't have sesame oil - is there any partic reason
why it has to be sesame oil - does it have particular mineral properties or
anyhting which benefit the teeth??

best wishes

Steph

________________________________
From: torch369 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 19:28:49
Subject: [eSens] Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!

Loni,
I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the
dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a
holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a
large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no
nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free
though.
If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very
strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford
Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including cements
and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with that.
In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically
you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth for
15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my
teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or
drinking anything.
Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy
but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from
the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:

>
>
> What was the results from the last posts on the crowns? I need several &
>dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them.
>Been doing for 30 years plus.
>
>
> The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with that?
>
> Not sure about the adhesive.
>
> I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal.
>
> :o) Loni
>
>
>
>
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evie15422
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Thanks, Kathy,
 
Yes, you should use salt and baking soda (I also use a little peroxide) in order to get the toxic crap the oil pulls off your teeth after oil pulling.
 
Goodluck, Steph.  I hope you are feeling better,
Diane

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From: KathyB <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Re: OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 11:49 PM


 




My doc. recommends rinsing & brushing w sea salt & baking soda in warm water after.

First thing in the morning & before bed, around 4 hrs after a meal. 

http://www.preventionandhealing.com/articles/Folk-Remedy-from-Russia.pdf

I pray it helps you. Maybe someone else can help w pain relief ideas.

From: KathyB <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Re: OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 10:27 PM

 

A good alternative doctor here recommends it.

 http://www.oilpulling.com/ 

Says it can heal many things. Explains to use cold pressed polyunsaturated oil from seeds stimulate the body to detox.  I need to try it again.

 The articles will explain more. I know it doesn't upset the microflora of the gut. You have to chew swish it. It needs to turn a whitish color. Toxic if swallowed.

Kathy

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Loni Rosser
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I had the Clifford Reactivity Test done & checked all the materials out & looks ok for me but I am still weary of it. I need many crowns so this is pretty stressful deal. I will try it & see how it goes I guess.
 
Loni

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When the dentists says he's never had a problem with porcelain crowns he's referring to how they last. If somoeone got symptoms from a blocked meridian, neither the patient nor the dentist were ever aware of it.

The dentist who put in my titanium pins, and ceramic crowns with metallic colorant, said that not one person besides me had ever had any problem. I doubt that. I suppose that no one else ever put 2 + 2 together.

The adhesives can be problematic in the same way.

Does anyone near you do eleectrodermal testing, so you can test for the materials beforehand?

My suggestion would be to have Doug Cook recommend a dentist who works the way he does, who lives near you.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com

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Steph Smith
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Hi Diane

Thanks so much for this really helpful information about the TMJ and the oil
pulling. I have tried a couple of times so far to go off the painkillers but
found I had to go back on them - yesterday morning after breakfast [soft soft
porridge] it actually felt like the muscle in the jaw on that side where I had
the work done was in spasm so it was back to the painkillers again! There is
also just such a sensitivity - to hot drinks and to an intake of cold air
[winter has come very early here - snow ice and very cold temps!!!] - I have
been trying to suck on a piece of root ginger every so often and that helps. I
will definitely not be getting any more amalgam replacement done until this
calms down and even then I am going to have to just do one filling at a time and
do it slowly since my TMJ cannot tolerate doing them all in a single sitting [3
more to go!!] I read somewhere that apparently you aren't supposed to do oil
pulling if you still have mercury amalgam in your mouth so is it ok for me to
start doing this even though I haven't got all of mine out?

I know I owe you a reply [or several] from literally ages ago , but things have
been very busy here what with teeth, incapacity [with teeth!] candida [still v
confused] and trying to move back in permantly to my house and getting to grips
with the backlog of undone maintenance that needs to be done. I am sure you are
busy too but you are just a better correspondent and poster than I am. Hope
things are good for you at the moment. Are you moved in now to the new house and
how is it going? Take good care of yourself Diane.

all the best

Steph
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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, 30 November, 2010 19:13:50
Subject: Re: [eSens] OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]

 
Hi, Steph,
 
Sorry to hear you are in such pain.  You can use any kind of oil for oil
pulling.  Just pick an oil which you don't like for cooking with or eating,
since there is a small chance you will hate the taste of it (and associate it
with oil pulling) after some time using it for that.  I use safflower oil for
oil pulling since I don't like to cook with it anyway.   But essentially, any
oil will do.
 
The best thing to help with tmj pain, is to try not to move your jaw too much. 
But this can be difficult if your joint is actually out of place.  Splints are
wonderful for this but they are pricey to have professionally made.  When my jaw
felt like it was not in the correct position, my doc told me to:
open my mouth as wide as I could, push my lower jaw forward as far as possible,
and then slowly close my mouth, to an aligned position.  Splints also help after
doing this, and here in the States, you can buy a mouth guard that athletes use
and mold a temporary one yourself.  (You put it in  boiling water and bite on
it.)  But the thing here is you need to know first that your bite is in the
right position, so your alignment is correct (and also, the material used for
the splint is possibly not tolerable if you have MCS/EI).  So it is best to
practice the procedure I mentioned (opening mouth, etc) a few times till you
know you are doing it correctly and getting back to the proper bite.  Also,
sometimes from dental work and the irritation of  the jaw being out of place,
you end up with inflammation in the joint.  If you have inflammation in the
joint, sometimes you cannot put your jaw back in place till the inflammation
calms down.  In that
case, there is not much you can do but take pain killers and try to rest your
jaw as much as possible.

Oil pulling will benefit the teeth, in time, by pulling out any (generic term)
parasitic infections you have in the gums and making the teeth less of a
breeding ground for them.  But you have to keep at it long-term.
 
Hope you are soon feeling much better, Steph,
Diane
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From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 4:57 PM

 

Hi Steve

I had another amalgam removal session last Friday - 10 days ago now - and am
still on painkillers - had a bad TMJ episode after the treatment which took over

an hour and am still on painkillers - I don't think there is anything wrong with

the teeth or the new restorations themselves - but there has been excessive
sensitivity[ and hence the pain] on a scale like I have never before
experienced, which I am pretty sure is linked to the TMJ - I have spent whatever

computer time I have had recently googling teeth and pain and sensitivity etc
and on an excellent site [www.healingteethnaturally.com] they recommended oil
pulling for the reasons why you did - I haven' tdone it yet because I only have
extra virgin coconut oil and don't have sesame oil - is there any partic reason
why it has to be sesame oil - does it have particular mineral properties or
anyhting which benefit the teeth??

best wishes

Steph

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From: torch369 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 19:28:49
Subject: [eSens] Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!

Loni,
I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the
dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a
holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a
large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no
nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free
though.
If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very
strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford
Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including cements

and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with that.
In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically
you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth for

15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my
teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or
drinking anything.
Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy
but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from
the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
>
>
> What was the results from the last posts on the crowns? I need several &
>dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them.

>Been doing for 30 years plus.
>
>
> The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with that?
>
> Not sure about the adhesive.
>
> I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal.
>
> :o) Loni
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Steph Smith
In reply to this post by evie15422
Hi Diane and Kathy

Thanks also for this advice - I only did it once and found it hard to keep
swishing it around my mouth for 20 minutes - I brushed and rinsed with warm
water after but the baking soda and salt is a good tip so thanks a lot

best wishes

Steph




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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, 30 November, 2010 21:17:54
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Re: OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]

 
Thanks, Kathy,
 
Yes, you should use salt and baking soda (I also use a little peroxide) in order
to get the toxic crap the oil pulls off your teeth after oil pulling.
 
Goodluck, Steph.  I hope you are feeling better,
Diane

--- On Sun, 11/28/10, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: KathyB <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Re: OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 11:49 PM

 

My doc. recommends rinsing & brushing w sea salt & baking soda in warm water
after.


First thing in the morning & before bed, around 4 hrs after a meal. 

http://www.preventionandhealing.com/articles/Folk-Remedy-from-Russia.pdf

I pray it helps you. Maybe someone else can help w pain relief ideas.

From: KathyB <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Re: OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 10:27 PM

 

A good alternative doctor here recommends it.

 http://www.oilpulling.com/ 

Says it can heal many things. Explains to use cold pressed polyunsaturated oil
from seeds stimulate the body to detox.  I need to try it again.


 The articles will explain more. I know it doesn't upset the microflora of the
gut. You have to chew swish it. It needs to turn a whitish color. Toxic if
swallowed.


Kathy

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Steph Smith
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Hi Steve

Thanks for this - I quite like the taste of coconut oil and sesame oil - I think
I would have to choose an oil I like the flavour of because of needing to keep
it in the mouth for that length of time. Can you use toasted sesame oil you can
get in the supermarket or does it have to be less processed?

Thanks

Steph




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From: torch369 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Mon, 29 November, 2010 4:07:25
Subject: [eSens] Re: OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]

 
Hi Steph,

It actually can be other oils but the Indians used sesame or sunflower. I chose
sesame because it has immune boosting properties and doesn't taste bad.
You can use the coconut oil, I've read that some people do. Coconut also has
virus killing properties.
Try it in the AM. If you dont like using that oil get the sesame and give it a
shot. It works really well.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Steve
>
> I had another amalgam removal session last Friday - 10 days ago now - and am
> still on painkillers - had a bad TMJ episode after the treatment which took
>over
>
> an hour and am still on painkillers - I don't think there is anything wrong
>with
>
> the teeth or the new restorations themselves - but there has been excessive
> sensitivity[ and hence the pain] on a scale like I have never before
> experienced, which I am pretty sure is linked to the TMJ - I have spent
>whatever
>
> computer time I have had recently googling teeth and pain and sensitivity etc
> and on an excellent site [www.healingteethnaturally.com] they recommended oil
> pulling for the reasons why you did - I haven' tdone it yet because I only have
>
> extra virgin coconut oil and don't have sesame oil - is there any partic reason
>
> why it has to be sesame oil - does it have particular mineral properties or
> anyhting which benefit the teeth??
>
> best wishes
>
> Steph
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: torch369 <torch369@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 19:28:49
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!
>
>
> Loni,
> I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the
> dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a
> holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a
>
> large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no
> nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free
>
> though.
> If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very
>
> strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford
> Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including
>cements
>
> and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with
>that.
> In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically
>
> you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth
>for
>
> 15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my
> teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or
> drinking anything.
> Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy
>
> but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from
>
> the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth.
> Steve
>
> --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > What was the results from the last posts on the crowns? I need several &
> >dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with
>them.
>
> >Been doing for 30 years plus.
> >
> >
> > The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with
>that?
> >
> > Not sure about the adhesive.
> >
> > I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal.
> >
> > :o) Loni
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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