Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!

It is hard to do especially in the morning I started w 10-15 for now.  If it makes you  feel ill from it make sure to spit it out & don't swallow.

Mine is turning cloudy, it's working. Have a virus so could be that.

I've heard good things about sesame. I'm using sunflower for now.  

Hope you feel better.

Kathy



From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Re: OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 11:10 AM







 



 


   
     
     
      Hi Diane and Kathy



Thanks also for this advice - I only did it once and found it hard to keep

swishing it around my mouth for 20 minutes - I brushed and rinsed with warm

water after but the baking soda and salt is a good tip so thanks a lot



best wishes



Steph



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From: KathyB <[hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Re: Re: OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]

To: [hidden email]

Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 11:49 PM



 



My doc. recommends rinsing & brushing w sea salt & baking soda in warm water

after.



First thing in the morning & before bed, around 4 hrs after a meal. 



http://www.preventionandhealing.com/articles/Folk-Remedy-from-Russia.pdf



I pray it helps you. Maybe someone else can help w pain relief ideas.



From: KathyB <[hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Re: Re: OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]

To: [hidden email]

Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 10:27 PM



 



A good alternative doctor here recommends it.



 http://www.oilpulling.com/ 



Says it can heal many things. Explains to use cold pressed polyunsaturated oil

from seeds stimulate the body to detox.  I need to try it again.



 The articles will explain more. I know it doesn't upset the microflora of the

gut. You have to chew swish it. It needs to turn a whitish color. Toxic if

swallowed.



Kathy



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I heard a doc. recommend  baking soda for a tooth ache. Never tried it. The cold feeling on it hurts.

I feel for you Steve,
I had many toxic fillings, tooth aches, & root canals.

I don't think the oil would hurt w/o amalgams. You're on your way to healing, getting toxic things out.

Kathy




There is

also just such a sensitivity - to hot drinks and to an intake of cold air

[winter has come very early here - snow ice and very cold temps!!!] - I have

been trying to suck on a piece of root ginger every so often and that helps. I

will definitely not be getting any more amalgam replacement done until this

calms down and even then I am going to have to just do one filling at a time and

do it slowly since my TMJ cannot tolerate doing them all in a single sitting [3

more to go!!]
 I read somewhere that apparently you aren't supposed to do oil

pulling if you still have mercury amalgam in your mouth so is it ok for me to

start doing this even though I haven't got all of mine out?



I know I owe you a reply [or several] from literally ages ago , but things have

been very busy here what with teeth, incapacity [with teeth!] candida [still v

confused] and trying to move back in permantly to my house and getting to grips

with the backlog of undone maintenance that needs to be done. I am sure you are

busy too but you are just a better correspondent and poster than I am. Hope

things are good for you at the moment. Are you moved in now to the new house and

how is it going? Take good care of yourself Diane.



all the best



Steph

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From: Evie <[hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Tue, 30 November, 2010 19:13:50

Subject: Re: [eSens] OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]



 

Hi, Steph,

 

Sorry to hear you are in such pain.  You can use any kind of oil for oil

pulling.  Just pick an oil which you don't like for cooking with or eating,

since there is a small chance you will hate the taste of it (and associate it

with oil pulling) after some time using it for that.  I use safflower oil for

oil pulling since I don't like to cook with it anyway.   But essentially, any

oil will do.

 

The best thing to help with tmj pain, is to try not to move your jaw too much. 

But this can be difficult if your joint is actually out of place.  Splints are

wonderful for this but they are pricey to have professionally made.  When my jaw

felt like it was not in the correct position, my doc told me to:

open my mouth as wide as I could, push my lower jaw forward as far as possible,

and then slowly close my mouth, to an aligned position.  Splints also help after

doing this, and here in the States, you can buy a mouth guard that athletes use

and mold a temporary one yourself.  (You put it in  boiling water and bite on

it.)  But the thing here is you need to know first that your bite is in the

right position, so your alignment is correct (and also, the material used for

the splint is possibly not tolerable if you have MCS/EI).  So it is best to

practice the procedure I mentioned (opening mouth, etc) a few times till you

know you are doing it correctly and getting back to the proper bite.  Also,

sometimes from dental work and the irritation of  the jaw being out of place,

you end up with inflammation in the joint.  If you have inflammation in the

joint, sometimes you cannot put your jaw back in place till the inflammation

calms down.  In that

case, there is not much you can do but take pain killers and try to rest your

jaw as much as possible.



Oil pulling will benefit the teeth, in time, by pulling out any (generic term)

parasitic infections you have in the gums and making the teeth less of a

breeding ground for them.  But you have to keep at it long-term.

 

Hope you are soon feeling much better, Steph,

Diane

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From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]

To: [hidden email]

Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 4:57 PM



 



Hi Steve



I had another amalgam removal session last Friday - 10 days ago now - and am

still on painkillers - had a bad TMJ episode after the treatment which took over



an hour and am still on painkillers - I don't think there is anything wrong with



the teeth or the new restorations themselves - but there has been excessive

sensitivity[ and hence the pain] on a scale like I have never before

experienced, which I am pretty sure is linked to the TMJ - I have spent whatever



computer time I have had recently googling teeth and pain and sensitivity etc

and on an excellent site [www.healingteethnaturally.com] they recommended oil

pulling for the reasons why you did - I haven' tdone it yet because I only have

extra virgin coconut oil and don't have sesame oil - is there any partic reason

why it has to be sesame oil - does it have particular mineral properties or

anyhting which benefit the teeth??



best wishes



Steph



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From: torch369 <[hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 19:28:49

Subject: [eSens] Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!



Loni,

I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the

dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a

holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a

large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no

nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free

though.

If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very

strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford

Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including cements



and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with that.

In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically

you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth for



15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my

teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or

drinking anything.

Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy

but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from

the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth.

Steve



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>

>

> What was the results from the last posts on the crowns? I need several &

>dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them.



>Been doing for 30 years plus.

>

>

> The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with that?

>

> Not sure about the adhesive.

>

> I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal.

>

> :o) Loni

>

>

>

>

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Hi, Steph,
 
I have done oil pulling and I still do have some mercury in my mouth.  You have to remember that what you pull out into the oil is toxic, of course.  It must never be swallowed and many say not to spit it even into the sink.  (I do, but clean the sink well after.)  I am not sure why pulling mercury would be hazardous if it remains in the oil, if you wash your mouth out thoroughly afterwards, and then if you brush your teeth well.  You certainly don't want leave any in your mouth or swallow it, however.  [We eat oily foods daily, if this were the case, I'd think we would be leaching mercury out while we eat anyway and swallowing it--which is probably the case.  I am not sure, tho, that oil pulling would make this any more likely, but you should do what you are comfortable with.]
 
I am sorry to hear how bad you are (the spasms)!  Unfortunately, while you have spasms, you will not likely be able to get your jaw back into place, if it is out.  Spasms like you are describing can cause real inflammation.  (They probably began with inflammation, but they do not allow the inflammation to heal and also intensify it.)
 
Besides pain meds, for spasms you can:
 
apply regular ice packs (I liked bags of frozen peas for this).
 
Try to let your jaw relax as much as possible (let it hang open slightly and tie a scarf loosely around your head so that it supports your jaw, if possible) or slightly open and support your chin with your hand(s).
 
If you can accomplish this, occasionally (1-2 X every hour or so, gently bring your teeth together a few times, to try to loosen your muscles.  (DON'T move jaw from side to side.)
 
The temporary bite stabilizer splint that I mentioned may still help if you can find one (here they are about $20 US and are sold in the athletic dept of some shops.  You will most likely have to trash this splint tho after you get your spasms under control, because the splint will not necessarily be the correct bite.  I am not sure whether they can be re-boiled and the bite changed.
 
Also, muscle gel or liquid, rubbed not on the jaw, but on the neck and upper back can help--the kind which provides heat. 
 
A good back massage will also sometimes help greatly.  I have a handheld wand which is electric, that has a heat and vibration setting with also infrared which I use when my jaw joint acts up (is also good for those one-sided migraines I get--used on neck and upper back muscles).  You don't want to over-use something like this (not necessarily good for ES, either), but 10 to 20 mins 3 or 4 X / day when in pain, works for me.  (Not saying how you'd react; all hand massagers are not created equal.)  I use this below the ear and around my neck and upper back.  I don't put it on my jaw joint.
 
No worries about the email, Steph!  Just take it easy and get better soon!  I will write you a short private mail answering your private questions to me. 
 
Sending healing vibes your way; be well very soon.
Bless you, Dear,
Diane
 
 

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From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 12:07 PM


 



Hi Diane

Thanks so much for this really helpful information about the TMJ and the oil
pulling. I have tried a couple of times so far to go off the painkillers but
found I had to go back on them - yesterday morning after breakfast [soft soft
porridge] it actually felt like the muscle in the jaw on that side where I had
the work done was in spasm so it was back to the painkillers again! There is
also just such a sensitivity - to hot drinks and to an intake of cold air
[winter has come very early here - snow ice and very cold temps!!!] - I have
been trying to suck on a piece of root ginger every so often and that helps. I
will definitely not be getting any more amalgam replacement done until this
calms down and even then I am going to have to just do one filling at a time and
do it slowly since my TMJ cannot tolerate doing them all in a single sitting [3
more to go!!] I read somewhere that apparently you aren't supposed to do oil
pulling if you still have mercury amalgam in your mouth so is it ok for me to
start doing this even though I haven't got all of mine out?

I know I owe you a reply [or several] from literally ages ago , but things have
been very busy here what with teeth, incapacity [with teeth!] candida [still v
confused] and trying to move back in permantly to my house and getting to grips
with the backlog of undone maintenance that needs to be done. I am sure you are
busy too but you are just a better correspondent and poster than I am. Hope
things are good for you at the moment. Are you moved in now to the new house and
how is it going? Take good care of yourself Diane.

all the best

Steph
X

________________________________
From: Evie <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, 30 November, 2010 19:13:50
Subject: Re: [eSens] OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]

 
Hi, Steph,
 
Sorry to hear you are in such pain.  You can use any kind of oil for oil
pulling.  Just pick an oil which you don't like for cooking with or eating,
since there is a small chance you will hate the taste of it (and associate it
with oil pulling) after some time using it for that.  I use safflower oil for
oil pulling since I don't like to cook with it anyway.   But essentially, any
oil will do.
 
The best thing to help with tmj pain, is to try not to move your jaw too much. 
But this can be difficult if your joint is actually out of place.  Splints are
wonderful for this but they are pricey to have professionally made.  When my jaw
felt like it was not in the correct position, my doc told me to:
open my mouth as wide as I could, push my lower jaw forward as far as possible,
and then slowly close my mouth, to an aligned position.  Splints also help after
doing this, and here in the States, you can buy a mouth guard that athletes use
and mold a temporary one yourself.  (You put it in  boiling water and bite on
it.)  But the thing here is you need to know first that your bite is in the
right position, so your alignment is correct (and also, the material used for
the splint is possibly not tolerable if you have MCS/EI).  So it is best to
practice the procedure I mentioned (opening mouth, etc) a few times till you
know you are doing it correctly and getting back to the proper bite.  Also,
sometimes from dental work and the irritation of  the jaw being out of place,
you end up with inflammation in the joint.  If you have inflammation in the
joint, sometimes you cannot put your jaw back in place till the inflammation
calms down.  In that
case, there is not much you can do but take pain killers and try to rest your
jaw as much as possible.

Oil pulling will benefit the teeth, in time, by pulling out any (generic term)
parasitic infections you have in the gums and making the teeth less of a
breeding ground for them.  But you have to keep at it long-term.
 
Hope you are soon feeling much better, Steph,
Diane
--- On Sun, 11/28/10, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] OIL PULLING [was Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!]
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 4:57 PM

 

Hi Steve

I had another amalgam removal session last Friday - 10 days ago now - and am
still on painkillers - had a bad TMJ episode after the treatment which took over

an hour and am still on painkillers - I don't think there is anything wrong with

the teeth or the new restorations themselves - but there has been excessive
sensitivity[ and hence the pain] on a scale like I have never before
experienced, which I am pretty sure is linked to the TMJ - I have spent whatever

computer time I have had recently googling teeth and pain and sensitivity etc
and on an excellent site [www.healingteethnaturally.com] they recommended oil
pulling for the reasons why you did - I haven' tdone it yet because I only have
extra virgin coconut oil and don't have sesame oil - is there any partic reason
why it has to be sesame oil - does it have particular mineral properties or
anyhting which benefit the teeth??

best wishes

Steph

________________________________
From: torch369 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sun, 28 November, 2010 19:28:49
Subject: [eSens] Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick!

Loni,
I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the
dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a
holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a
large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no
nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free
though.
If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very
strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford
Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including cements

and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with that.
In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically
you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth for

15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my
teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or
drinking anything.
Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy
but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from
the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
>
>
> What was the results from the last posts on the crowns? I need several &
>dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them.

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Hi Steph,
I've heard that toasted isn't as good and also has a stronger flavor so may not be as good. Just make sure you use organic cold pressed oils from the health food store.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:

Supposedly the oil pulling can loosen a mercury filling. Not sure if this is true or not.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Steph,
>  
> I have done oil pulling and I still do have some mercury in my mouth.  You have to remember that what you pull out into the oil is toxic, of course.  It must never be swallowed and many say not to spit it even into the sink.  (I do, but clean the sink well after.)  I am not sure why pulling mercury would be hazardous if it remains in the oil, if you wash your mouth out thoroughly afterwards, and then if you brush your teeth well.  You certainly don't want leave any in your mouth or swallow it, however.  [We eat oily foods daily, if this were the case, I'd think we would be leaching mercury out while we eat anyway and swallowing it--which is probably the case.  I am not sure, tho, that oil pulling would make this any more likely, but you should do what you are comfortable with.]