Car shielding

Hi to all,
I'm electrosens after 20 years of home exposure at 3 milligaus from
power lines.

no monitor or microwave hurt me as low frequency fields

I tried springfield and bioguard but I can't stand them.

My question is: I should buy a new car but every car I'm testing emits
2-10 mill gauss and I feel bad 24 hours after
Can you suggest me some solutions? Does it works to shield the driver
side of the car with some metallic foils?

thank you
Daniele

> I tried springfield and bioguard but I can't stand them.

Can you described your reactions to these two
devices?

I know that in my own case, the EMF protection devices
that I could not stand at first eventually became my
favorite devices! They just required getting used
to at first. So for example, with the Springlife
Polarizers, I could only stand being near one
for about 20 minutes on the first day, so I put
it away after that. Each following day I would
be near it until I got bad symptoms and then
put it away. Gradually I could stand being
near it for 1 hour, 2 hours, etc. After
several weeks I could use it all day, and found
it quite helpful in EMF environments.

For me, the Springlife Polarizer causes my body
to start dumping toxins into my bloodstream, so
it can be helpful to also drink more water,
take antioxidants, or take activated charcoal.
But that would be good advice to anyone who
has ES... :-)

Marc

New cars have many more electronic gadgets (speed control on steering
wheel, read outs, power seats, seat warmers, electric windows, etc.)
I recommend finding a simple stick shift without all the extras.
The less wiring around you the better.
Shielding the distributor cap might help as well as getting a grounding
strap from lessemf.

Reducing body voltage as well as the magnetic fields from the wiring is
the main goal to me.

There are plug in to cig lighter filters you can buy to supposedly
reduce emf. I tried it and not sure it made any difference.

Andrew
On Sep 4, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Daniele wrote:

The best solution is a 1982-1985 mercedes diesel (240D or 300D, avoid 300SD
if possible).
Older diesels should also be low emf. On the 82-85s the biggest issue is
the
voltage regulator, but it's not too hard to unplug the alternator (there's a
metal wire
clip that you have to flip away with a screwdriver, then just pull the plug;
if
you need to plug it back in, don't bother with the clip. Be aware the cable
is live at 12 V and can give quite a spark if the plug touches anything
metal.
)

Then you just need another way to charge the battery (you'll need a deep
cycle battery,
the only one I know of is the yellow Optima, which runs about $200). Then
you can
add a solar panel or two. In the summer I can do pretty well with a 15 watt
glass
panel on the trunk lid (I use a cheap simple 7A solar regulator that does
not do pulse modulation).
These ideas came from Bruce M., and they've worked well for me. I did
disconnect a lot
of electric stuff that wastes battery power and adds EMFs (tach, clock,
antenna, radio, heater valve, climate
computer, cruise computer). I live in a good solar climate, and in the
winter have used a flexible
panel on the roof. Occasionally I need to use a charger overnight
(intellicharger is good).

Any non-diesel car has spark plugs and will never be truly low-emf. But, I
do know very ES
people who do fine in older gasoline cars & trucks. I agree you want the
base model
with no extra gadgets.

Bill

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:


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In a message dated 9/4/2008 5:24:41 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes:

Shielding the distributor cap might help as well as getting a grounding
> strap from lessemf.
>
> Reducing body voltage as well as the magnetic fields from the wiring is
> the main goal to me.
>
> There are plug in to cig lighter filters you can buy to supposedly
> reduce emf. I tried it and not sure it made any difference.
>


PUK replies - There is also a method of demagnetising the steel bands in the
wheels which act like an electro magnet as they spin close to your lower
legs/.ankles, I expect many people get circulation problems from this aspect in
their legs !

puk






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That is true.

I know a person who demagnetizes his wheels each 5000 km.

There seem to be some garages who can do that also.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Bitdefender



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To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Car shielding

I think the issue is mainly the steel belts in the tires, not the wheels per
se.
The welding used to hold the belts together magnetizes them. Unfortunately
it is not always easy to get the magnetization out, and sometimes it comes
back.

If one could find radial tires with non-steel belts (polyester, nylon, or
aluminum?)
it would be nice.

Bill

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:43 PM, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:


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The magnetic field in a car can be caused by
something as simple as a dash light dimmer.
Set the dimmer to full brightness for lowest
EMF.
Diablo, this computer hurts. Out.
Eli

 
--- In [hidden email], "Daniele" <dudos999@...> wrote:

I'm testing different new cars. It seems the bad source of EMF come from:
- fuse box
- something in front of driver, deeper in the plastic.
 
I tried to deactivate each component pulling out the relative fuse but
the EMF did not change. So I believe the problem is the electronic
command central box ...... and this is not solvable.
 
Daniele

--- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz"
<jaime_schunkewitz@...> wrote:

yes, it seems also for me springfield put toxin around ... I can't
stand it for few minutes at all. I just tried progressive approach
without any improvements.
 
I have a big story of amalgam-mercury toxicity
 
Once a naturopath gave me mercurius solubilis (omeotoxicology) and I
felt the same sensations.... He said to me there is a psycho trauma
that blocks toxin exit ....
 
Daniele


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

it is very strange ... my last car is two-fuel benzine-metan ... when
it runs on metan the field is very low ...

--- In [hidden email], "Bill Bruno" <wbruno@...> wrote:
>
> The best solution is a 1982-1985 mercedes diesel (240D or 300D,
avoid 300SD
> if possible).
> Older diesels should also be low emf. On the 82-85s the biggest
issue is
> the
> voltage regulator, but it's not too hard to unplug the alternator
(there's a
> metal wire
> clip that you have to flip away with a screwdriver, then just pull
the plug;
> if
> you need to plug it back in, don't bother with the clip. Be aware
the cable
> is live at 12 V and can give quite a spark if the plug touches anything
> metal.
> )
>
> Then you just need another way to charge the battery (you'll need a deep
> cycle battery,
> the only one I know of is the yellow Optima, which runs about $200).
Then
> you can
> add a solar panel or two. In the summer I can do pretty well with a
15 watt
> glass
> panel on the trunk lid (I use a cheap simple 7A solar regulator that
does But, I
> do know very ES
> people who do fine in older gasoline cars & trucks. I agree you
want the
> base model
> with no extra gadgets.
>
> Bill
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
>
> > New cars have many more electronic gadgets (speed control on
steering
> > wheel, read outs, power seats, seat warmers, electric windows, etc.)
> > I recommend finding a simple stick shift without all the extras.
> > The less wiring around you the better.
> > Shielding the distributor cap might help as well as getting a
grounding
> > strap from lessemf.
> >
> > Reducing body voltage as well as the magnetic fields from the
wiring is emits
> > > 2-10 mill gauss and I feel bad 24 hours after
> > > Can you suggest me some solutions? Does it works to shield the
driver

Opel Zafira measures less of 0,5 milligaus on my trifield meter (I
suppose the real field is 1/3) ... BUT when you pick up the light by
night the switch emitts up to 10 milligauss.

Daniele


--- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz"
<jaime_schunkewitz@...> wrote:

> yes, it seems also for me springfield put toxin around ... I can't
> stand it for few minutes at all. I just tried progressive approach
> without any improvements.

Okay then, you're more sensitive to the Springlife Polarizers than
I was, as I was able to build up a tolerance to them. But yes, they
do have a tendency to cause your body to dump toxins. This would
ordinarily be a good thing, except for folks who cannot process
and eliminate these toxins (liver problems, etc.) In these cases,
these devices have to be used in parallel with some "Liver Helpers"
(antioxidants, charcoal, pectin, etc.)

> Once a naturopath gave me mercurius solubilis (omeotoxicology)

Yes, I had a terrible reaction to homeopathic mercury... I don't
recommend that anyone try this...

Marc

Marc,
I have the same reactions with Himalayan salt rock. I can stand it
ingested and neither keeping close to me the rock. It is very strange
because generally I'm not so sensible with herbal or supplements or
chemicals.
 
You mentioned before antiox as Crystal Energy NDF etc...
Do you had significant improvement and NOT any seizures from them
after years of use?
 
Daniele




--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

> You mentioned before antiox as Crystal Energy NDF etc...
> Do you had significant improvement and NOT any seizures from them
> after years of use?

I've had no seizures from anything.

I have had significant improvement from various things -- cellfood,
h-minus, crystal energy, ndf, etc. All of these things have some
sort of detox action. However, even after doing these things for
years and years, I'm still not completely better, and this last
year has been bad because I wasn't doing much the previous year,
and then I had a bad reaction from an ionic footbath. So I'm
now back to my old routine of using lots of supplements and
slowly getting better again. Although this time, I seem
to be doing best by supporting my adrenal glands, digestion,
and thyroid gland.

Marc

wow, the same problems of mine.
 
what are you doing specifically for adrenals and thyroid ?
 
... I'm waiting for results from zrt saliva cortisol test. The best
product for my digestion is NUX VOMICA HOMACCORD (HEEL) but not too
much otherwise it causes me depression in the day after.
 
 
Daniele



--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

> what are you doing specifically for adrenals and thyroid ?

I've had good luck with some glandular products from
Standard Process:

* Adrenal, Desicated tablets
* Drenatrophin PMG tablets
* Thytropin PMG tablets

Also, another product that was a real life-saver after
my bad experience after the ionic footbaths was
Thyro-Zyme from Apex Energetics. Also, Adaptocrine
from Apex Energetics has been helpful.

I don't need large doses of any of these, as it seems
I do well taking less than the recommended amounts.

I do have a digestion homeopathic from Heel, but I only
recently got it, and am not convinced that it is helping.
For me, just plain old digestive enzymes with some HCL
seems to work (Zypan from Standard Process). Plus some
activated charcoal for gas/bloating.

I also had a saliva cortisol test, and my cortisol was
too high throughout the day, meaning that my body is
in "fight-or-flight" mode around the clock.

Marc

>
> ... I'm waiting for results from zrt saliva cortisol test. The best
> product for my digestion is NUX VOMICA HOMACCORD (HEEL) but not too
> much otherwise it causes me depression in the day after.

some news in finding car ....
I tested Dhaiatsu Materia and find 100 milligauss at driver site!

The best seems the FORD cars, at least here in Europe. FORD FUSION
emitts 1,5 milligauss at the driver site.


Daniele



--- In [hidden email], "Daniele" <daniele@...> wrote: emits
> > > 2-10 mill gauss and I feel bad 24 hours after
> > > Can you suggest me some solutions? Does it works to shield the
driver
> > > side of the car with some metallic foils?
> > >
> > > thank you
> > > Daniele
> > >
> >
>

       
Hi Marc:

Could you let me know where you got your adrenals and thyroid
and other supps from? It will be for a 33 year old male, suffering
from severe EMS, severe burning, unable to access PCs etc....

He also suffers from high cortisol, which needs to be brought
down using natural products? Any tips and advice appreciated,

Many thanks

Kooky

PS. any tips on how to alleviate severe burning, severe anxiety,
jittery, wired exhaustion>



--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

> >  
> > ... I'm waiting for results from zrt saliva cortisol test. The best
> > product for my digestion is NUX VOMICA HOMACCORD (HEEL) but not too
> > much otherwise it causes me depression in the day after.
>

Marc,
Did you never tried ISOCORT?

Another argument:
Don't you concerned about the nanoparticles? I assume that
nanocolloidal products, such is crystal energy, are nanoparticles.
See http://www.nanodiagnostics.it/en/Default.aspx


Daniele

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: