Car shielding

> Did you never tried ISOCORT?

No, I've never tried that... yet... :-)

> Another argument:
> Don't you concerned about the nanoparticles? I assume that
> nanocolloidal products, such is crystal energy, are nanoparticles.

I've consumed many bottles of Crystal Energy, and it's certainly
one of the better products in terms of few negative side effects.
If you are concerned about nanoparticles for some reason, you could
try "Willard Water" instead, as it also is supposed to lower the
surface tension of water, and I've heard from other people that
it helps with detox.

Marc

> Could you let me know where you got your adrenals and thyroid
> and other supps from?

Well, some of the supplements I've taken have come from doctors
(naturopaths, chiropracters), and others have been purchased
myself at a local natural pharmacy, and yet more have been
purchased online. The Standard Process supplements are
a professional (doctor's) brand, so buying them online is
a bit more difficult, although you can find them at
pacifichealth.com, spinelife.com, and sometimes even
at amazon.com!

> He also suffers from high cortisol, which needs to be brought
> down using natural products? Any tips and advice appreciated,

Well, I think my cortisol is probably still too high, so I
may not be the best person to ask! There are various
herbs that people use for adrenal support, though, you
might want to experiment (ashwaganda, ginseng, rehmannia, etc.)

> PS. any tips on how to alleviate severe burning, severe anxiety,
> jittery, wired exhaustion>

For burning, I use antioxidants -- H-Minus from e3Live works
well for me. Also skin lotion with Borage Oil, found in
the health food store. For anxiety, jittery, wire exhaustion,
I only suffer from that when drinking caffeinated products,
or consuming too much iodine or chia seeds (!), so I just
don't do that.

Marc

> He also suffers from high cortisol, which needs to be brought
> down using natural products? Any tips and advice appreciated,

Note that there are lots of adrenal support products on the market,
but it may take some trial & error to find something that works
or is free of negative side effects.

For example, here is a supplement that has a long list of
ingredients, which demonstrates that there are lots of
things which can be used to support the adrenals:

http://www.nowfoods.com/?action=itemdetail&item_id=73963

The main ingredient, "Relora" has been shown to bring down
cortisol levels, and can be purchased by itself. Relora
is a simple combination of 2 herbs.

Note that I have not tried these products, so this is not
a recommendation. Just providing some ideas...

Marc

In a message dated 9/10/2008 9:23:50 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

some news in finding car ....
I tested Dhaiatsu Materia and find 100 milligauss at driver site!

The best seems the FORD cars, at least here in Europe. FORD FUSION
emitts 1,5 milligauss at the driver site.

Daniele

--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.eSe_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , "Daniele"
<daniele@...> wrote:
>
> Opel Zafira measures less of 0,5 milligaus on my trifield meter (I
> suppose the real field is 1/3) ... BUT when you pick up the light by
> night the switch emitts up to 10 milligauss.
>
> Daniele


PUK replies - please see my photo on offending componenets in cars as
downloaded, you can sometimes extract/remove stuff and lighten your emf burden in
the car.






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Thanks for the tip about adrenal support. As you say, it
is about trial and error....

Kooky


--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

Concerning the "Adrenal dessicated tabs" were they porcine or bovine?
And were the Drenatrophin PMG and Thytropin PMG tabs mostly herbal?
Whis is the a reliable internet company to purchase these from?

Also, I am curious about the ISOCORT? Was this for the thryroid?

I tried a tiny little piece of Armour for the hypothyroidsm, and as
tiny as was the dose, no larger than a grain of salt, from a whole tab
of 60 mg 1 grain, the side effects were quite serious.

I am now looking for myself, safe, and less toxic alternatives, input
appreciated.

Kooky




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--- In [hidden email], "Daniele" <daniele@...> wrote:

> Concerning the "Adrenal dessicated tabs" were they porcine or bovine?
> And were the Drenatrophin PMG and Thytropin PMG tabs mostly herbal?
> Whis is the a reliable internet company to purchase these from?

The Dessicated Adrenal tabs, Drenatrophin PMG and Thytropin PMG
are all purely glandular products -- bovine, I believe. More
detailed specs can be found on the manufacturer's website:

http://www.standardprocess.com/

I have purchased this company's products from spinelife.com,
pacifichealth.com, and amazon.com. The manufacturer discourages
internet sales, as they want doctors to provide these for
patients (even though they do NOT require a prescription).

> I tried a tiny little piece of Armour for the hypothyroidsm, and as
> tiny as was the dose, no larger than a grain of salt, from a whole tab
> of 60 mg 1 grain, the side effects were quite serious.

Boosting thryoid functioning can be a stressor to the adrenal
glands, so if your adrenal glands are weak, then thyroid
support may have to wait until you first build up your
adrenal glands. And after you build up your adrenal glands,
it's possible you may not even need thyroid support.

Marc

where are the fotos?

.... I just tested 2 car of the same model. The first is full
optional and the second is opposed. I mean no electric glass, no abs,
nothing of nothing. The EMF field is the SAME!

Daniele

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote: emf burden in
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1.5 milligauss may be pretty good compared to what most
people can tolerate, but I sure wouldn't want it.

Did you try any diesels? maybe a small pickup truck?

Bill

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Daniele <[hidden email]> wrote:


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In a message dated 9/11/2008 8:59:41 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Daniele <_daniele@bioclinic.da_
(mailto:[hidden email]) > wrote:

> where are the fotos?
>



PUK - Photos on yahoo essens home page






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I recently tried to rewire a 1990 Dodge Cummins diesel.
Found when I disconnected the ALTERNATOR, the field in the cab went way
down.
So I bought a 4 gauge cable to reroute from the battery to the
alternator directly, instead of following the standard wiring along the
firewall.

It reduced the field some, but not to a truly tolerable level for me. I
must conclude finding the right alternator, is as much a KEY, and as
hard as finding the right combination of computer components to get a
quiet(er) computer.

If it didn't get 24 MPG, I wouldn't be trying so hard. :)

Stewart

Bill Bruno wrote:
> 1.5 milligauss may be pretty good compared to what most
> people can tolerate, but I sure wouldn't want it.
>
> Did you try any diesels? maybe a small pickup truck?
>

I think you've made some good progress.

For it to work, you should probably try to put a uniform twist in the two
wires.

Also maybe try some large ferrite chokes (which will only block the highest
frequencies, but that might help). You can get them at Newark.com I think.
There are actually different types of ferrites and you might look for the
ones
designed for lower frequencies (which will still be in the MHz) but then
I'm not sure where to get those.

Add a solar panel with a trickle charger. I've got 30 watts here and Santa
Fe,
which is great for the summer. Get a little volt gauge and you can leave
the
alternator disconnected most of the time (disconnect all wires at the
alternator,
so they can't act like an antenna). Even without the solar panel you may be
able to drive a few hours (without lights) with no alternator in a diesel.
Get a yellow Optima deep cycle battery and you can do that on a regular
basis.
(not sure if they make one big enough for a big truck, but maybe yours).

Better yet, get 2 of those batteries. Hook one to the alternator to charge,
while
you run the truck on the other. The problem is actually not so much the
alternator
but the regulator, which sends pulses (pulse width modulation). A linear
regulator
would be much better but it's a tall order to make one that can handle that
much
current. If the truck will run with no battery (which an old one will) you
can make
it work with one battery by disconnecting everything but the alternator
after you
start up; except at night when you could drive with the alternator
disconnected.
If you replace your turn signal bulbs with LEDs you might be able to run off
a much smaller battery by day--probably have to disconnect a lot of
unnecessary
relays etc.

Good luck, keep us posted.
Bill
PS if you get a really big ferrite you can wrap many turns around it, but it
could then
have strong local fields so keep it far from you.


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I've found the measured magnetic field impinged on the
driver a good indication on how tolerable the car is to
drive.

So I bought a 2007 Chevy Silverado (gas), because it had
the lowest field of any vehicle measured. But, recently I've
noticed that this truck causes severe tinnitus, even after
just a few minutes of driving.

The saga never ends. I believe the tinnitus is coming from
the ignition, or possibly a computer which is just under
the the steering wheel.

Eli

Hi,
I would agree, the computer emissions would need to be checked too with
a sensitive RF meter, because it won't show up on magnetic meter. Too
many gadgets in the newest vehicles.
Stewart

jaime_schunkewitz wrote:
> So I bought a 2007 Chevy Silverado (gas), because it had
> the lowest field of any vehicle measured. But, recently I've
> noticed that this truck causes severe tinnitus, even after
> just a few minutes of driving.
>
> The saga never ends. I believe the tinnitus is coming from
> the ignition, or possibly a computer which is just under
> the the steering wheel.
>

In a message dated 10/22/2008 3:05:28 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

jaime_schunkewitz wrote:
> So I bought a 2007 Chevy Silverado (gas), because it had
> the lowest field of any vehicle measured. But, recently I've
> noticed that this truck causes severe tinnitus, even after
> just a few minutes of driving.
>
> The saga never ends. I believe the tinnitus is coming from
> the ignition, or possibly a computer which is just under
> the the steering wheel.



Have any of you seen my uploaded photo of climate control sensor fan this
really killed me in the car until I killed it, but removing it.

PUK


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How did you determine that this sensor caused
your symptoms? Trial and error or did it you
measure it's emf emissions with something.

Eli

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In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote: fan this
> really killed me in the car until I killed it, but removing it.
>  
> PUK
>
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>

Recently I inspected the whole truck for RF, but
my RF Field Strength meter (alpha labs) didn't pick
up any RF except from the radio and the spark
plug wires. It did not detect the computers.

However, an AM radio revealed all sorts of RF.

I'm pondering over what RF meter is most approprated
for such measurements. Most of these RF meters
are designed to measure far fields. Which means the
meter should be three meters from the RF source. But
at three meters the meter isn't sensitive enough.

Eli

--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:

AM radios are remarkably useful. I did not realize at first thatthe
external antenna is usually only for FM: the AM antenna
is a black ferrite bar with wire wrapped around it inside.

I think if you hooked such an antenna to your RF meters they
would work, but they would probably not work at higher frequencies.

The other problem is that most RF meters are designed for steady
CW signals-- the audio of the radio is very good at getting low
duty cycle pulses etc.

Bill

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:18 AM, jaime_schunkewitz <
[hidden email]> wrote:


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