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Eleccor
Hello All,
I'm new to this group and seeking advice. I do healing work for a living and in general find myself to be envirosensitive, though nothing that I couldn't handle well, until the install of 18 electric and gas 'smart' meters at the end of my condo building 2 yrs ago - about 10 ft from my bedroom (a laundry room is in-between). As well, 2 other clusters of 18 smart meters each from 2 neighboring buildings are about 50 ft from my unit. There are power lines about 150 ft away from my rental unit and I hear that cell antennae are going up on them in next few months.
Concerning my symptoms the most disturbing is what I call 'brain surge' - a sense of electrical currents building in my head like a wave, then crashing. This is the worst when I am falling asleep or just waking up. Does anyone else have this manifestation?
Also have constant high pitched ringing. I don't consider it technically tinnitus - which is ringing in the ears...it's between my ears inside my head. I have insomnia (well rather, circadian rhythm disturbance - fully awake till 3 or 4am, then sleep til 11am). I also feel fatigue, mild depression at times, slow to heal with skin lesions, hair loss, short term memory loss.
Am actively looking for new home - challenging on a budget in high rent - low vacancy area I live in to find separate unit dwelling especially. I had the bedroom tested by an electrical engineer who brought in a $30,000 machine from his work. He confirms the meter microspikes and signals from the surrounding various frequency sources, but says degree of symptoms is relative to individual of course. These are other measure I've taken:
-I have been sleeping in my living room on floor further away from meters
-I have foiled the walls of my bedroom
-I use an earthing set-up that's grounded outside
-I eat healthy (I juice, eat organic, no meat, rarely dairy) and use supplements high in antioxidants.
-I am on my pc several hrs/day but use earthing pad
-I recently opted out of the digital gas and electric meters, in hopes of possibly decreasing the 'dirty' electricity wiring factor in my walls
-I switch off all the circuits of my fusebox at nite except of the power to the fridge (had some freezer defrost before)
-I have asked my neighbors about wifi and to turn off at night
-I use a landline phone-took out cordless 2 yr ago. Rarely turn on/use my flip phone.

I'm debating whether or not to get an EEG as my head symptoms are so disruptive. Anyone else have brain surge? Have not found refs to this anywhere. I understand this forum is not qualified to give medical advice..but from a lay perspective, does anyone have input they may feel might be helpful?  Thanks in advance for reading thru and for any assistance!
Renee



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Marc Martin
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On December  3, H RS <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I'm new to this group and seeking advice.

Welcome to the group!

I've never heard of this "brain surge" symptom before... anyone else have this?

I find it interesting that you are differentiating "ringing in the ears" and "ringing
between the ears".  I suppose I would categorize my own as "in between", but
I never really gave it much thought.

Obviously if someone is suffering from a large group of nearby Smart Meters,
the obvious suggestion is to move somewhere else.

Also, I wonder if your grounding pads are really improving things?  We get
many reports here about grounding pads making things worse, due to a
contaminated ground sources.

Marc
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S Andreason
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Hi Renee,

> until the install of 18 electric and gas 'smart' meters at the end of my condo
Unfortunately, this is becoming a common result of microwave emitting
smart meters.


> Concerning my symptoms the most disturbing is what I call 'brain surge' - a sense of electrical currents building in my head like a wave, then crashing.
While I can't say I've heard this described before, I might suggest it
might be the same as what others here, and myself, describe as a
migraine headache, or the feeling of having our heads in a vice, with
the pressure rising when exposed to microwaves. Could it be the same
cause, but with differing symptoms being manifested?

The timing of happening in the evening or morning however, is different
from general headaches.
I do find however, that the neighbors use their toys at these times of
day, when they are home, and not sleeping. This might suggest a possible
angle to investigate or consider.

When I get up, I often get dizzy, to the point of having my vision
dimmed, until the blood flow returns to my head. Is this another kind of
possibility? The rush of blood in their vessels can make a rushing sound.


> Also have constant high pitched ringing. I don't consider it technically tinnitus - which is ringing in the ears...it's between my ears inside my head.
Maybe not technically, but both myself, and my mom did before she passed
away. have ringing in our heads. Her tinnitus was definitely caused by
"hearing microwaves." and only went away the first time when we moved
here, away from towers.
Also the tinnitus inside my head does not go up and down with current
exposure, but stays elevated far beyond my headache, which is much
faster to ramp up.  But it can go down in time.


> insomnia, fatigue, mild depression, slow to heal with skin lesions, hair loss, short term memory loss.
>  
All symptoms of "microwave sickness."


> but says degree of symptoms is relative to individual of course.
Each of us have differing levels of toxification, and how Full our cup
is, defines whether or not we are past the tipping edge, where the cup
spills and we have symptoms loud enough we can no longer ignore.

All your counter-measures sound good.
The aluminum foil is controversial however, and great care must be taken
to prevent Leaks, and keep the inside from becoming like a microwave
oven. Also there have been suggestions the increased shielding may be
too much, and our symptoms increase when beneficial fields or cosmic
rays get blocked as well as the offending man-made microwaves.
To be a true faraday cage, there needs to be two layers of shielding,
with a gap between them. We don't want the "shield" to radiate inward
what it is picking up on the outside.

Only thing left to do is reduce exposure, but you already indicated the
need to move is known.

I can't remember any EEG research, but Magda Havas does have research
measuring an electro-sensitive, while provoking symptoms, affecting the
heart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EI9fZX4iww

Stewart
http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html

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judyl_nev
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Hello!

18 smart meters are a bit much.

Go to YouTube and search 'Stratford smart meter killing shrub.'

I believe that when the meter surges and "screams" it causes your brain to surge and scream also. I refused the smartmeter. I lucked out that day. My cousin reacts similarly to her smartmeter as you are describing. She feels the brain surge. She described it also as feeling like fingers reaching out to grab. Hers makes her feel completely out of sorts and disconnected.

We also do energy work. We do energetic shielding. This is done with intention and a magnet. I know that may sound completely absurd. But, most people do not understand energy work. After all... it's wireless.

Healing is the helpful side of the EM spectrum. I have a friend who is a Pranic healer. His fingers blow out his cellphone, and other equipment.

With regards to the so-called tinnitus, I have that also, and it is not in the ear-- but is  in the head, as you said.  Bad fields make mine so awful, it hurts severely, is very loud, and spreads out to a greater area. It is like sitting next to a loudspeaker inside your head 24/7...  The intensity and field may change. I know two others who hear or perceive the energy field changes with ear changes.

Judy


--- In [hidden email], H RS <iamhamsa@...> wrote:

>
> Hello All,
> I'm new to this group and seeking advice. I do healing work for a living and in general find myself to be envirosensitive, though nothing that I couldn't handle well, until the install of 18 electric and gas 'smart' meters at the end of my condo building 2 yrs ago - about 10 ft from my bedroom (a laundry room is in-between). As well, 2 other clusters of 18 smart meters each from 2 neighboring buildings are about 50 ft from my unit. There are power lines about 150 ft away from my rental unit and I hear that cell antennae are going up on them in next few months.
> Concerning my symptoms the most disturbing is what I call 'brain surge' - a sense of electrical currents building in my head like a wave, then crashing. This is the worst when I am falling asleep or just waking up. Does anyone else have this manifestation?
> Also have constant high pitched ringing. I don't consider it technically tinnitus - which is ringing in the ears...it's between my ears inside my head. I have insomnia (well rather, circadian rhythm disturbance - fully awake till 3 or 4am, then sleep til 11am). I also feel fatigue, mild depression at times, slow to heal with skin lesions, hair loss, short term memory loss.
> Am actively looking for new home - challenging on a budget in high rent - low vacancy area I live in to find separate unit dwelling especially. I had the bedroom tested by an electrical engineer who brought in a $30,000 machine from his work. He confirms the meter microspikes and signals from the surrounding various frequency sources, but says degree of symptoms is relative to individual of course. These are other measure I've taken:
> -I have been sleeping in my living room on floor further away from meters
> -I have foiled the walls of my bedroom
> -I use an earthing set-up that's grounded outside
> -I eat healthy (I juice, eat organic, no meat, rarely dairy) and use supplements high in antioxidants.
> -I am on my pc several hrs/day but use earthing pad
> -I recently opted out of the digital gas and electric meters, in hopes of possibly decreasing the 'dirty' electricity wiring factor in my walls
> -I switch off all the circuits of my fusebox at nite except of the power to the fridge (had some freezer defrost before)
> -I have asked my neighbors about wifi and to turn off at night
> -I use a landline phone-took out cordless 2 yr ago. Rarely turn on/use my flip phone.
>
> I'm debating whether or not to get an EEG as my head symptoms are so disruptive. Anyone else have brain surge? Have not found refs to this anywhere. I understand this forum is not qualified to give medical advice..but from a lay perspective, does anyone have input they may feel might be helpful?  Thanks in advance for reading thru and for any assistance!
> Renee
>
>
>
>

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Eleccor
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Hi Marc and Stewart,
Thanks for your replies. Yes everyone is different in symptoms and solutions.
How does one conclusively tell if ground sources are contaminated, and earthing pads are helpful or not?  I could do trial w/o them for a couple wks... but given my background in the healing field, I rely a lot on my intuition, and they 'feel' right. I also practice muscle testing ('applied kinesiology' - I find that to be consistent/helpful, and don't care what wikipedia says on it).

I don't get headaches with my ES. Maybe I can better describe 'brain surge' as high frequency ringing inside my brain, but amped up by about 5X, so the sound is both more like broad band static (think HBO show preludes) that crescendos to a peak then breaks/gaps momentarily and then resumes at a lower intensity.
Is not change in blood flow -- am not getting up, am laying down. For the times of day I have it, waking or falling asleep - I wonder if has something to do with the sort of brain waves I'm producing then.
It's like what I imagine an epileptic goes through with brain overload - except I don't lose consciousness.
As have not found any info on brain surge symptoms or others like me yet (eg - on this forum) is why considering med evaluation to rule out tumor; like EEG to start, tho not even sure if that will yield much info.  Reluctant to get into extensive med tests as is expensive, takes time, etc. and what docs are up on radiation or emfs and how to advise on treatment??  

If this is unique to me, then maybe best to pursue testing...I guess the protocol is hearing test, then EEG, then CT scan or MRI? Tho CT uses xrays; and MRI uses radio wave frequencies - is that safe? Hmm.. maybe thermography.   And relocation of course!

Thanks for caution on the foil. I think will get it rechecked by my engineer friend. When he first checked, we put up some foil patches on the wall and that did reduce the emfs.The foil is continuously connected and grounds to an outlet with an earthing ground wire.

I have another question - I know microwaves penetrate walls etc, but do they or signals from cell towers, power lines, wifi, etc ricoshet off buildings as well?
Thank you again,
Renee


--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Renee,
> > until the install of 18 electric and gas 'smart' meters at the end of my condo
> Unfortunately, this is becoming a common result of microwave emitting
> smart meters.
> > Concerning my symptoms the most disturbing is what I call 'brain surge' - a sense of electrical currents building in my head like a wave, then crashing.
> While I can't say I've heard this described before, I might suggest it
> might be the same as what others here, and myself, describe as a
> migraine headache, or the feeling of having our heads in a vice, with
> the pressure rising when exposed to microwaves. Could it be the same
> cause, but with differing symptoms being manifested?
>
> The timing of happening in the evening or morning however, is different
> from general headaches.
> I do find however, that the neighbors use their toys at these times of
> day, when they are home, and not sleeping. This might suggest a possible angle to investigate or consider.
>
> When I get up, I often get dizzy, to the point of having my vision
> dimmed, until the blood flow returns to my head. Is this another kind of
> possibility? The rush of blood in their vessels can make a rushing sound.

> > Also have constant high pitched ringing. I don't consider it technically tinnitus - which is ringing in the ears...it's between my ears inside my head.
> Maybe not technically, but both myself, and my mom did before she passed away. have ringing in our heads. Her tinnitus was definitely caused by "hearing microwaves." and only went away the first time when we moved here, away from towers.
> Also the tinnitus inside my head does not go up and down with current
> exposure, but stays elevated far beyond my headache, which is much
> faster to ramp up.  But it can go down in time.
 
> > insomnia, fatigue, mild depression, slow to heal with skin lesions, hair loss, short term memory loss.
 
> All symptoms of "microwave sickness."

 > but says degree of symptoms is relative to individual of course.

> Each of us have differing levels of toxification, and how Full our cup
> is, defines whether or not we are past the tipping edge, where the cup
> spills and we have symptoms loud enough we can no longer ignore.
>
> All your counter-measures sound good.
> The aluminum foil is controversial however, and great care must be taken
> to prevent Leaks, and keep the inside from becoming like a microwave
> oven. Also there have been suggestions the increased shielding may be
> too much, and our symptoms increase when beneficial fields or cosmic
> rays get blocked as well as the offending man-made microwaves.
> To be a true faraday cage, there needs to be two layers of shielding,
> with a gap between them. We don't want the "shield" to radiate inward
> what it is picking up on the outside.
>
> Only thing left to do is reduce exposure, but you already indicated the
> need to move is known.
>
> I can't remember any EEG research, but Magda Havas does have research
> measuring an electro-sensitive, while provoking symptoms, affecting the
> heart.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EI9fZX4iww
>
> Stewart
> http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html
>


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S Andreason
Hi Renee,

> How does one conclusively tell if ground sources are contaminated,
I can think of two ways. One is if there is ground current between
ground rods on opposite sides of your home, current between an
independent ground rod and the outlet ground, and 2nd if there are any
spikes when measured on an ocilliscope. But we're trying to measure
ground, not the 120V AC, so the noise may only be a volt or two.


> I rely a lot on my intuition, and they 'feel' right.
Then it is beneficial to you. If only we all were in tune with which
vibrations complement ours.


> and don't care what wikipedia says on it).
>  
Since when is modern science fully comprehending the nature of the universe?
They have room to grow!


> It's like what I imagine an epileptic goes through with brain overload - except I don't lose consciousness.
>  
That may be a close parallel.
I guess the important thing is to ask, how to heal these kinds of
neurological damage...
And if it is possible to do so in the increasing sea of electromagnetic
noise bathing the planet.


> hearing test, then EEG, then CT scan or MRI?
Nearly the same route I took, 19 years ago. Perfect hearing, No tumor.


> Tho CT uses xrays; and MRI uses radio wave frequencies - is that safe?
I think it is low enough the body tolerates it, unless your cup is full
of course. I didn't really notice additional symptoms from my MRI, but
then I was in a big city (Seattle) getting cooked and fried already, and
not enjoying the experience, shall we say...


> we put up some foil patches on the wall and that did reduce the emfs.
No doubt it Will reflect, so if the foil is between you (or a meter) and
the source of the microwaves, then the levels will be reduced, exactly
like a shadow.


> I have another question - I know microwaves penetrate walls etc, but do they or signals from cell towers, power lines, wifi, etc ricoshet off buildings as well
Absolutely for all listed except power lines.
Cell towers, WiFi, are all microwaves, and they do bounce, just like in
the oven.
They bounce off buildings, walls, and rocks (thinking of valley walls
and slopes.)

Think of the cell tower (etc) as the Sun. Very bright. Put up an
umbrella, or aluminum foil. It casts a shadow. It feels much better in
the shade. But it is not completely dark, because the light also bounced
off the walls, trees, etc, and comes at you from nearly all sides. That
is why to create a faraday cage, requires absolutely no leaks.

I've spent a great deal of time studying how the towers (7 miles away)
bounce into my valley here. Some places with a hill blocking directly,
have varying power/reception levels. Pictures, stories, etc., on my page.

Power lines are ELF, extremely low frequency, only 50-60 cycles per
second (Hertz), so those waves are more likely to penetrate than
reflect. I can measure magnetic fields, and electric fields, but not the
ELF waves themselves at longer distances than a quarter mile, as they
become "background" and beyond my ability to measure (and worry about.)

Stewart

http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html

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Marc Martin
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In reply to this post by Eleccor
On December  3, iamhamsa <[hidden email]> wrote:
> How does one conclusively tell if ground sources are contaminated, and earthing pads are helpful or not?  

Often times, people are so sensitive to the noise on the grounding source that they feel worse very quickly.

> I could do trial w/o them for a couple wks... but given my background in the healing field, I rely a lot on
> my intuition, and they 'feel' right. I also practice muscle testing ('applied kinesiology' - I find that to be
> consistent/helpful, and don't care what wikipedia says on it).

I have found muscle testing to be terrible for predicting what is helpful for me.  Simple trial & error has been much more helpful.

Marc
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Air Cleaners

steve
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Hi All,

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good air cleaner? I have Blueair but the filters smell. I have MCS so I am sensitive to chemicals like the plastic housing of many of them.
Charles mentioned producing dirty air being produced so not sure if any are completely safe but i assume it's better than breathing in particles and mold.
I bought the negative ionizer that someone recommended here-it gives off no emfs at all but may be a little much for my senstivie sinuses.

Thanks,
Steve

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Eleccor
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Understood, Marc.  I don't rely on muscle testing exclusively - it is a component of my process, and only if I am feeling clear enough to use it. Meditation has been a saving grace or lifeline for me also to help keep me tapped in to my inner guidance.
Renee

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

>
> On December  3, iamhamsa <iamhamsa@...> wrote:
> > How does one conclusively tell if ground sources are contaminated, and earthing pads are helpful or not?  
>
> Often times, people are so sensitive to the noise on the grounding source that they feel worse very quickly.
>
> > I could do trial w/o them for a couple wks... but given my background in the healing field, I rely a lot on
> > my intuition, and they 'feel' right. I also practice muscle testing ('applied kinesiology' - I find that to be
> > consistent/helpful, and don't care what wikipedia says on it).
>
> I have found muscle testing to be terrible for predicting what is helpful for me.  Simple trial & error has been much more helpful.
>
> Marc
>


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Eleccor
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Thank you Stewart, your input is very helpful, especially your analogies.

I have been looking as more rural areas to move, but is challenging to be so far away from my place of work, given gas costs and commute time and hassle.  
Always is the question - how far away to get from the city to be free enough from emf effects, given the technology is continually encroaching on open space?
Seems like a faraday cage around a sleeping cot might be a good partial solution as I can economize by using less shielding fabric. Getting good sleep is so essential.
Renee

--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Renee,
>
> > How does one conclusively tell if ground sources are contaminated,
> I can think of two ways. One is if there is ground current between
> ground rods on opposite sides of your home, current between an
> independent ground rod and the outlet ground, and 2nd if there are any
> spikes when measured on an ocilliscope. But we're trying to measure
> ground, not the 120V AC, so the noise may only be a volt or two.
>
>
> > I rely a lot on my intuition, and they 'feel' right.
> Then it is beneficial to you. If only we all were in tune with which
> vibrations complement ours.
>
>
> > and don't care what wikipedia says on it).
> >  
> Since when is modern science fully comprehending the nature of the universe?
> They have room to grow!
>
>
> > It's like what I imagine an epileptic goes through with brain overload - except I don't lose consciousness.
> >  
> That may be a close parallel.
> I guess the important thing is to ask, how to heal these kinds of
> neurological damage...
> And if it is possible to do so in the increasing sea of electromagnetic
> noise bathing the planet.
>
>
> > hearing test, then EEG, then CT scan or MRI?
> Nearly the same route I took, 19 years ago. Perfect hearing, No tumor.
>
>
> > Tho CT uses xrays; and MRI uses radio wave frequencies - is that safe?
> I think it is low enough the body tolerates it, unless your cup is full
> of course. I didn't really notice additional symptoms from my MRI, but
> then I was in a big city (Seattle) getting cooked and fried already, and
> not enjoying the experience, shall we say...
>
>
> > we put up some foil patches on the wall and that did reduce the emfs.
> No doubt it Will reflect, so if the foil is between you (or a meter) and
> the source of the microwaves, then the levels will be reduced, exactly
> like a shadow.
>
>
> > I have another question - I know microwaves penetrate walls etc, but do they or signals from cell towers, power lines, wifi, etc ricoshet off buildings as well
> Absolutely for all listed except power lines.
> Cell towers, WiFi, are all microwaves, and they do bounce, just like in
> the oven.
> They bounce off buildings, walls, and rocks (thinking of valley walls
> and slopes.)
>
> Think of the cell tower (etc) as the Sun. Very bright. Put up an
> umbrella, or aluminum foil. It casts a shadow. It feels much better in
> the shade. But it is not completely dark, because the light also bounced
> off the walls, trees, etc, and comes at you from nearly all sides. That
> is why to create a faraday cage, requires absolutely no leaks.
>
> I've spent a great deal of time studying how the towers (7 miles away)
> bounce into my valley here. Some places with a hill blocking directly,
> have varying power/reception levels. Pictures, stories, etc., on my page.
>
> Power lines are ELF, extremely low frequency, only 50-60 cycles per
> second (Hertz), so those waves are more likely to penetrate than
> reflect. I can measure magnetic fields, and electric fields, but not the
> ELF waves themselves at longer distances than a quarter mile, as they
> become "background" and beyond my ability to measure (and worry about.)
>
> Stewart
>
> http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html
>


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Eleccor
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Hi Judy,
>"I know that may sound completely absurd. But, most people do not >understand energy work. After all... it's wireless. "
Great point! LOL
I had a consult with an emf evaluator who believes strongly in benefits of orgonite, and he gave me some pieces.  I have them in my home - I can't measure objectively if they're helpful but I figure they can't hurt.

In my research, have seen that video, and Havas, minivanjack, Barry Trowell (sp?) and every related youtube video and online report.
Yes people who are energy sensitive, in some cases healers like myself, are the canaries in the coal mine and ES is only going to increase across populations exponentially with time. Currently the majority of people embrace all technology w/o question and think we are crazy and backward. I cringe when I see my niece store her smartphone in her bra! She doesn't want to hear my input on this.
We're fortunate to at least be aware of EMRs - many people suffer symptoms but have no insights into why, and the bulk of western medical practitioners are little to no help at all.

Renee

--- In [hidden email], "judyl_nev" <judyl_nev@...> wrote:

>
> Hello!
>
> 18 smart meters are a bit much.
>
> Go to YouTube and search 'Stratford smart meter killing shrub.'
>
> I believe that when the meter surges and "screams" it causes your brain to surge and scream also. I refused the smartmeter. I lucked out that day. My cousin reacts similarly to her smartmeter as you are describing. She feels the brain surge. She described it also as feeling like fingers reaching out to grab. Hers makes her feel completely out of sorts and disconnected.
>
> We also do energy work. We do energetic shielding. This is done with intention and a magnet. I know that may sound completely absurd. But, most people do not understand energy work. After all... it's wireless.
>
> Healing is the helpful side of the EM spectrum. I have a friend who is a Pranic healer. His fingers blow out his cellphone, and other equipment.
>
> With regards to the so-called tinnitus, I have that also, and it is not in the ear-- but is  in the head, as you said.  Bad fields make mine so awful, it hurts severely, is very loud, and spreads out to a greater area. It is like sitting next to a loudspeaker inside your head 24/7...  The intensity and field may change. I know two others who hear or perceive the energy field changes with ear changes.
>
> Judy
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], H RS <iamhamsa@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> > I'm new to this group and seeking advice. I do healing work for a living and in general find myself to be envirosensitive, though nothing that I couldn't handle well, until the install of 18 electric and gas 'smart' meters at the end of my condo building 2 yrs ago - about 10 ft from my bedroom (a laundry room is in-between). As well, 2 other clusters of 18 smart meters each from 2 neighboring buildings are about 50 ft from my unit. There are power lines about 150 ft away from my rental unit and I hear that cell antennae are going up on them in next few months.
> > Concerning my symptoms the most disturbing is what I call 'brain surge' - a sense of electrical currents building in my head like a wave, then crashing. This is the worst when I am falling asleep or just waking up. Does anyone else have this manifestation?
> > Also have constant high pitched ringing. I don't consider it technically tinnitus - which is ringing in the ears...it's between my ears inside my head. I have insomnia (well rather, circadian rhythm disturbance - fully awake till 3 or 4am, then sleep til 11am). I also feel fatigue, mild depression at times, slow to heal with skin lesions, hair loss, short term memory loss.
> > Am actively looking for new home - challenging on a budget in high rent - low vacancy area I live in to find separate unit dwelling especially. I had the bedroom tested by an electrical engineer who brought in a $30,000 machine from his work. He confirms the meter microspikes and signals from the surrounding various frequency sources, but says degree of symptoms is relative to individual of course. These are other measure I've taken:
> > -I have been sleeping in my living room on floor further away from meters
> > -I have foiled the walls of my bedroom
> > -I use an earthing set-up that's grounded outside
> > -I eat healthy (I juice, eat organic, no meat, rarely dairy) and use supplements high in antioxidants.
> > -I am on my pc several hrs/day but use earthing pad
> > -I recently opted out of the digital gas and electric meters, in hopes of possibly decreasing the 'dirty' electricity wiring factor in my walls
> > -I switch off all the circuits of my fusebox at nite except of the power to the fridge (had some freezer defrost before)
> > -I have asked my neighbors about wifi and to turn off at night
> > -I use a landline phone-took out cordless 2 yr ago. Rarely turn on/use my flip phone.
> >
> > I'm debating whether or not to get an EEG as my head symptoms are so disruptive. Anyone else have brain surge? Have not found refs to this anywhere. I understand this forum is not qualified to give medical advice..but from a lay perspective, does anyone have input they may feel might be helpful?  Thanks in advance for reading thru and for any assistance!
> > Renee
> >
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Patricia
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renee, what would an EEG tell you that you don't already know?  


--- In [hidden email], H RS <iamhamsa@...> wrote:

> I'm debating whether or not to get an EEG as my head symptoms are so disruptive. Anyone else have brain surge? Have not found refs to this anywhere. I understand this forum is not qualified to give medical advice..but from a lay perspective, does anyone have input they may feel might be helpful?  Thanks in advance for reading thru and for any assistance!
> Renee


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Eleccor
EEG may rule out or confirm seizure activity or suggest a tumor.

It's a baseline or entry level test to get further evaluation for more complex condition, that docs want done.  I can't say conclusively I am free of these conditions, tho doubtful is such.

And who knows, if more ES people began to get EEG screens, maybe after some time new patterns would emerge which are indicators of EMR stressors evidenced in these brain wave patterns.
As it is now, most docs think we're closer to OCD or just simply depressed.

--- In [hidden email], "PatriciaRobinett" <patricia@...> wrote:
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> renee, what would an EEG tell you that you don't already know?  
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], H RS <iamhamsa@> wrote:
>
> > I'm debating whether or not to get an EEG as my head symptoms are so disruptive. Anyone else have brain surge? Have not found refs to this anywhere. I understand this forum is not qualified to give medical advice..but from a lay perspective, does anyone have input they may feel might be helpful?  Thanks in advance for reading thru and for any assistance!
> > Renee
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C.a.b. Johnson
Renee,

So sorry you are getting hammered to death with all those Smart Meters.  What torture!!   It is a  crime to do that to peiople.  We cannot let them get away with it. 

You are right, an EEG might be informative about seizure activity or brain tumor, but to be perfectly frank, I do not think you are going to get anywhere with Mainstream Medicine - they are clueless and they will bombard you with more electricity. 

For one thing, you have been exposed to Smart Meters for two years.  It is possible but not likely a tumor would be showing up at this point.  Also, aberrations in brain wave activity may not show up on the EEG if you are not being hammered with Microwaves during the test.  And even if there are aberrations in the EEG, the doctor probably won't do anything about it.  I had brain wave seizure activity on my EEG after a car accident years ago and they did nothing about it.  Just noted in the file and then wanted to get paid.   Usually all they ever do is write stuff in their file, prescribe drugs and then put their hand out to get paid.  You can tell I am cynical and I have a right to be after decades of being bounced around, bankrupted and misdiagnosed, I have had enough if that crap.

As far as the MRI.  WATCH OUT!!  I had a brain MRI because of symptoms.  It showed widespread brain damage which I know is from using a cordless phone for two decades and living a block away from a cell tower for a decade.  But at the time I didn't realize that was the cause.  And the doctor was so dam clueless she said, "there must be some mistake - you couldn't have that much brain damage" and she ordered a repeat MRI.  So I had it done all over again and it showed the exact same thing.  She had no clue what the cause might be and just wrote it down in her file and sent me to a Neurologist who diagnosed me with MS.  DUH! 

WATCH OUT FOR DOCTORS AND SPECIALISTS.  They just don't get it and will have very little, if anything to offer you.  They pull diagnoses out of their hats, but what they offered me that time around was more DAMAGE to my body with their giant Magnets.  Thanks doc.

Turns out those MRI's really knocked me for a loop and screwed up my body good, possible permanently.  Now I am not only ELECTRO-SENSITIVE,  I am now also MAGNETICALLY SENSITIVE. 

And what about if I really need to get an MRI for something important?  I may not be able to have one, as I am even having trouble driving in my car, due to EMF's. and Magnetic Fields being generated.

Whatever you think about Dr. Mercola, you have to say one thing - he is right on about EMF's and Microwaves. Here is his latest on Smart Meters.  Also, the video of Dr. Klinghardt that he includes gave me some new information.  At the very end of the video, Klinghardt says that Mitake and Shitake type mushroom extracts have been shown to help people with ES.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/12/05/smart-utility-meters.aspx?e_cid=20121205_DNL_art_1
Smart Grid Funding Misspent on Obsolete Technologies, Says New Report

Basically, rather than running to the doctor thinking they are going to help you or have a remedy for you,  I say save your time and money and FORGET IT.  If you need help, go to an Alternative Practitioner or Naturopath who is knowledgeable about ES and, learn ways to help yourself by surfing the internet and reading this list.  There is a lot of information out there that would be helpful for you to protect yourself and your immune system.  We have all gone through a learning curve here, realizing it is up to us to take care of ourselves.

That is my opinion.  I do not know if that many people on the list have had any success with mainstream doctors.  If anyone has, I would like to hear about it.


C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee




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      EEG may rule out or confirm seizure activity or suggest a tumor.



It's a baseline or entry level test to get further evaluation for more complex condition, that docs want done.  I can't say conclusively I am free of these conditions, tho doubtful is such.



And who knows, if more ES people began to get EEG screens, maybe after some time new patterns would emerge which are indicators of EMR stressors evidenced in these brain wave patterns.

As it is now, most docs think we're closer to OCD or just simply depressed.



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> renee, what would an EEG tell you that you don't already know?  

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> --- In [hidden email], H RS <iamhamsa@> wrote:

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> > I'm debating whether or not to get an EEG as my head symptoms are so disruptive. Anyone else have brain surge? Have not found refs to this anywhere. I understand this forum is not qualified to give medical advice..but from a lay perspective, does anyone have input they may feel might be helpful?  Thanks in advance for reading thru and for any assistance!

> > Renee

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Snoshoe
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Yes, microwaves ricochet. Like in your car, or the bus, subway for
example, you are in a microwave oven. This was in mainstream media
back in the earlier 90's as an elektrosmog problem when cellphones
were just starting to get into public use.  

But we live in an invisible smog of the stuff all around us now. I've often wished the stuff would become visible as the smog in LA sometimes, and with the different colors of the different frequencies,
so people could identify them, though they would mix into that grey, brown smog in dense areas.

If people could just see and understand it was in and going through them, and they're breathing it, things would be different.

The brain surges, I've never thought of it quite as the tide, but that does seem to be what many of us experience, as it comes and goes. It sounds like you are in an area where things are turned on and off perhaps on a more regular basis causing the surge feeling?

Yes, I often thing of the numbness, and various other type feelings I get in my head depending on the exposure, as at the edge of seizure.

It does indeed cause seizures, being short circuiting, and or overload to the brains pathways, so it just depends when we reach that
tipping point individually as to when we would have a full seizure.

Hope you can get moved soon.  Maybe your pranic friend can start beaming his fingers at the evil towers?! :)

~ Snoshoe

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> Hi Marc and Stewart,
> Thanks for your replies. Yes everyone is different in symptoms and solutions.
> How does one conclusively tell if ground sources are contaminated, and earthing pads are helpful or not?  I could do trial w/o them for a couple wks... but given my background in the healing field, I rely a lot on my intuition, and they 'feel' right. I also practice muscle testing ('applied kinesiology' - I find that to be consistent/helpful, and don't care what wikipedia says on it).
>
> I don't get headaches with my ES. Maybe I can better describe 'brain surge' as high frequency ringing inside my brain, but amped up by about 5X, so the sound is both more like broad band static (think HBO show preludes) that crescendos to a peak then breaks/gaps momentarily and then resumes at a lower intensity.
> Is not change in blood flow -- am not getting up, am laying down. For the times of day I have it, waking or falling asleep - I wonder if has something to do with the sort of brain waves I'm producing then.
> It's like what I imagine an epileptic goes through with brain overload - except I don't lose consciousness.
> As have not found any info on brain surge symptoms or others like me yet (eg - on this forum) is why considering med evaluation to rule out tumor; like EEG to start, tho not even sure if that will yield much info.  Reluctant to get into extensive med tests as is expensive, takes time, etc. and what docs are up on radiation or emfs and how to advise on treatment??  
>
> If this is unique to me, then maybe best to pursue testing...I guess the protocol is hearing test, then EEG, then CT scan or MRI? Tho CT uses xrays; and MRI uses radio wave frequencies - is that safe? Hmm.. maybe thermography.   And relocation of course!
>
> Thanks for caution on the foil. I think will get it rechecked by my engineer friend. When he first checked, we put up some foil patches on the wall and that did reduce the emfs.The foil is continuously connected and grounds to an outlet with an earthing ground wire.
>
> I have another question - I know microwaves penetrate walls etc, but do they or signals from cell towers, power lines, wifi, etc ricoshet off buildings as well?
> Thank you again,
> Renee
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Renee,
> > > until the install of 18 electric and gas 'smart' meters at the end of my condo
> > Unfortunately, this is becoming a common result of microwave emitting
> > smart meters.
> > > Concerning my symptoms the most disturbing is what I call 'brain surge' - a sense of electrical currents building in my head like a wave, then crashing.
> > While I can't say I've heard this described before, I might suggest it
> > might be the same as what others here, and myself, describe as a
> > migraine headache, or the feeling of having our heads in a vice, with
> > the pressure rising when exposed to microwaves. Could it be the same
> > cause, but with differing symptoms being manifested?
> >
> > The timing of happening in the evening or morning however, is different
> > from general headaches.
> > I do find however, that the neighbors use their toys at these times of
> > day, when they are home, and not sleeping. This might suggest a possible angle to investigate or consider.
> >
> > When I get up, I often get dizzy, to the point of having my vision
> > dimmed, until the blood flow returns to my head. Is this another kind of
> > possibility? The rush of blood in their vessels can make a rushing sound.
>
> > > Also have constant high pitched ringing. I don't consider it technically tinnitus - which is ringing in the ears...it's between my ears inside my head.
> > Maybe not technically, but both myself, and my mom did before she passed away. have ringing in our heads. Her tinnitus was definitely caused by "hearing microwaves." and only went away the first time when we moved here, away from towers.
> > Also the tinnitus inside my head does not go up and down with current
> > exposure, but stays elevated far beyond my headache, which is much
> > faster to ramp up.  But it can go down in time.
>  
> > > insomnia, fatigue, mild depression, slow to heal with skin lesions, hair loss, short term memory loss.
>  
> > All symptoms of "microwave sickness."
>
>  > but says degree of symptoms is relative to individual of course.
> > Each of us have differing levels of toxification, and how Full our cup
> > is, defines whether or not we are past the tipping edge, where the cup
> > spills and we have symptoms loud enough we can no longer ignore.
> >
> > All your counter-measures sound good.
> > The aluminum foil is controversial however, and great care must be taken
> > to prevent Leaks, and keep the inside from becoming like a microwave
> > oven. Also there have been suggestions the increased shielding may be
> > too much, and our symptoms increase when beneficial fields or cosmic
> > rays get blocked as well as the offending man-made microwaves.
> > To be a true faraday cage, there needs to be two layers of shielding,
> > with a gap between them. We don't want the "shield" to radiate inward
> > what it is picking up on the outside.
> >
> > Only thing left to do is reduce exposure, but you already indicated the
> > need to move is known.
> >
> > I can't remember any EEG research, but Magda Havas does have research
> > measuring an electro-sensitive, while provoking symptoms, affecting the
> > heart.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EI9fZX4iww
> >
> > Stewart
> > http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html
> >
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grace317537
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Eeg will only confirm seizure if you have one during the test. That is what they told me. Like i said in my email, they did detect change in brain wave activity but the response was a very unconcerned shrug.
MRI only sometimes shows damage to the brain. I had abilateral tentorial subdural hematoma. After the initial bleed cleared up, the MRI showed nothing but my brain injury is still here. I've read there is another test that looks deeper but it is not widely available &,i don't recall the test.
Sometimes people need to have the test just so they know in their minds they are not imagining it. So many people tell u that ur, u start to wonder.
Least night i had some major problems. It was triggered by a light touch stapler. Felt like the staples were being shot into my brain. It lasted all day all night until i took a new supplement or herb I've been trying. The thing that eases it is 1) shut down as much activity around you as you can. 2) fever few head aid by planetary herbs...not plain fever few, that does not help me. This formula works fast & well. A life saver for me. Online around $11 for ,100. Almost dble in a local store but still worth it. Try it. It can't hurt.
Do what u need to do for peace of mind but don't set your heart on a doctor being able to help. They don't all know. It's not there fault. Seriously, did u believe it before it happened to you? I admit i had no clue it existed & if sometime told me they could feel my living room lamp...cookoo.
Best advice i got, it was for my brain injury but apply it here too.... Quit trying to make everyone understand & quit taking it to heart that they don't believe u. Our society had been programmed through Hollywood to view certain injuries as trivial.... Scene, guy & girl being chased. Guy gets hit over head & unconscious. Head injury. Guy wakes up, guy is dazed but shakes it off, keeps ruining, takes out the bad guy, saves the girl.
That is not reality but i have paid close attn since then & he was right, that is what the movies show & most people believe.
I have both problems. Brain injury &EMS. I do better not having to add fighting the masses of unbelievers. I'm glad there are people stronger than me to get the word out. But do what u can do and take care of yourself first.
I'm sorry i ramble....another part of brain injury they don't tell u about :-)
Leslie
Connected by Motorola

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Eleccor
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Leslieann and C Johnson,
Thanks for sharing your experiences - very helpful for you who've 'been around the block' a few times. Your experiences reinforce what I suspect mine may be if I follow the medical track.

And yes, have given up long ago trying to explain my ES to others, or impress on them the importance of being aware of risks involved. I wince when I see baby monitors and DECT phones in my clients' homes, or young children with cell phones to their heads, or cell towers on school grounds, etc but my info on this tends to fall on deaf ears.  People don't get it often and don't want to hear about it until they are personally affected, it seems. Many just trying to get by in their day to day living.

I'm grateful for people who are supportive, like all you on this forum, and for those who are helping to educate, like Dr Mercola, Dr Klinghardt, Dr Havas, and many more.
If we do ever have infrastructure failure due to say, intense solar flares - despite ALL THE CHAOS that may ensue, it may just be our saving grace.
Renee




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Patricia
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steve, how big is your space?  
the NIG covers quite a bit of territory.
what i do when i want air cleaning
but don't want to have a NIG near me
(due to it biting my eyes or nose)
is that i use it only when i am not
in the room.  or i just give it space
to do its thing away from me.  in my
condo, it was on the upstairs bannister
but it cleaned the entire house.  i could
tell when it was off for a while.  it kept
down all the things you speak of -
particles and mold... but i never had it
in my immediate space.  placing it high
up is a good thing to do... running it
while you are gone... running it in
another room, but having an open door
to that room...  i move mine to where
it seems that help is needed.  
love, patricia

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...> I bought the negative ionizer that someone recommended here-it gives off no emfs at all but may be a little much for my senstivie sinuses.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
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Patricia
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renee,
recently, a friend went to the doctor for a heart checkup.  
i tried to assure her before she went that her symptoms
were from genuine heart ache - boyfriend stuff -
because the body is a communication device and tells
us where we are holding fear.  she went anyway.

she ended up having a test that required her to ingest
a toxic chemical substance.  the pain of it was so great,
she has decided, as a result, to never worry about her
health and submit to tests again.  and at the end, the
doctor told her she had the arteries of a 20-yr-old.  
they were "beautiful", he said.  at least she learned she
was healthy.  :)  

i suspect, that the machine they use to check you will
emit EMF that will indeed recreate the very symptoms
you experience in EMF fields... but they will ultimately
do nothing positive for you.  they might decide to
medicate or to do surgery - neither of which you
REALLY want... for all meds do is to suppress
symptoms... the body's messages... which are invaluable
to anyone who wants to take care of his/her hand by taking
it off the stove.  medications would have you not feel the
pain of the stove's heat and of the hand burning...  and
each one has side-effects that are potentially dangerous,
even deadly.  suffice it to say, what they are doing is
anything but healing.  you know what is wrong with you.  
if symptoms increase in higher fields of EMF, then that's
the problem.  just because an MD has a degree doesn't
mean he is wise or educated about this important issue.
it will take medical science years to catch up with you
and your current understanding.  take good care of
yourself, because you are years ahead of the population.  
love, patricia


--- In [hidden email], "iamhamsa" <iamhamsa@...> wrote:

>
> EEG may rule out or confirm seizure activity or suggest a tumor.
>
> It's a baseline or entry level test to get further evaluation for more complex condition, that docs want done.  I can't say conclusively I am free of these conditions, tho doubtful is such.
>
> And who knows, if more ES people began to get EEG screens, maybe after some time new patterns would emerge which are indicators of EMR stressors evidenced in these brain wave patterns.
> As it is now, most docs think we're closer to OCD or just simply depressed.
>
> --- In [hidden email], "PatriciaRobinett" <patricia@> wrote:
> >
> > renee, what would an EEG tell you that you don't already know?  
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], H RS <iamhamsa@> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm debating whether or not to get an EEG as my head symptoms are so disruptive. Anyone else have brain surge? Have not found refs to this anywhere. I understand this forum is not qualified to give medical advice..but from a lay perspective, does anyone have input they may feel might be helpful?  Thanks in advance for reading thru and for any assistance!
> > > Renee
> >
>


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S Andreason
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Hi Renee,
> I have been looking as more rural areas to move, but is challenging to be so far away from my place of work, given gas costs and commute time and hassle.  
> Always is the question - how far away to get from the city to be free enough from emf effects, given the technology is continually encroaching on open space?
>  
That is a hard tradeoff. The commute is far from quiet, with the cars
emitting more and more radar and WiFi, plus driving by towers, power
lines. I don't consider this good for health.

Then there are plans to recharge electric vehicles by energizing a grid
in the road, a magnetic field, for induction, and wireless transfer of
power. Plus linking vehicles together with WiFi so they drive as one. It
is like a bad episode of Mad Scientists.

How far to get away? That is the question everybody here has been
asking, at one point or another, we are all pushed into moving, or get
worse where we are, in a bad situation.
For a decade I have said 1.5 miles from a tower, and 300 ft from
neighbors. Time and experience have drilled home that that is not enough
after all, with the new technologies. A rural tower 7 miles away, in
line of sight, is very loud. Neighbors with WiFi can be detected 2360
ft. away, but I'm measuring and feeling the tolerable line is closer to
1200 ft. Look for a place with background levels below 0.03 V/m, and
where the steady whine from towers can not be heard.
If the levels are 0.06 V/m or higher, that is into the yellow caution
zone, and more likely to get worse in future years.



> Seems like a faraday cage around a sleeping cot might be a good partial solution as I can economize by using less shielding fabric. Getting good sleep is so essential.
Yes, a shielding canopy is helpful. As long as the field strength is not
too high, in which case the shielding becomes inadequate, and seems to
have side effects, especially if not grounded properly.

Stewart
http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html

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