Beds for ES

   Evidently if one uses 2 or 3 layers of these blankets they are more effective - some stores also carry the 'thicker' blankets -- they are made in  1mm size. as well as 2mm and 3mm  

            blessings
             Shan

--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:

Hi good to hear from you! still in the uk, on some levels physical fitness has improved ( I attribute this to doing green smoothies,cutting out sugar, physical xrcise and yoga) In terms of ES things are the same, which is mostly overwhelm, not so much because I am getting worse, but that the sources of EMF seem to be increasing exponentially. Public transport and crowds seem to be the latest culprit because so  many people use smart phones all the time! EVERYWHERE!! probably like you simple things become a challenge ( like replacing the hot water pump so now the emf in my bedroom has intensified) Going anywhere for holidays or visits requires prior planning and vetting ( is there wifi? do they have CFL bulbs, plasma screens etc) I've since discovered that it is near on impossible to get a hotel room that doesn't have wifi in it.And when sharing space with others you are really at the mercy of who you live with, some are bemusedly sympathetic, whilst
 many  just think you are mad or neurotic. I had an interesting dilemma with the last place I worked which was a hospital. In the last week I heard they were going to wifi the whole unit which is a massive unit, and would require very very strong routers. So before I left, I downloaded every clinical paper I could find on the subject and sent it to management. I doubt they will listen, but at least I tried. Any way that's me, But seriously i do worry about the future, because as things stand now, living in an urban area is such a struggle.



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 From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2012, 16:52
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES
 

 
Long time is right Ada - in short things with me are not great - literally every week some utility or other [the water co, the electric co, the gas co] is digging up the road for some reason or other and each time they do so my ES is dreadful - I would move if I could but that isn't feasible for the time being - it seems like I am getting dirty elec in to the house from the water and gas pipework most likely. I'd give anything for some sort of device which would ameliorate if a bit.

I went gluten free and dairy free for a year but over the last month or so I have gone back on the dairy a bit because of calcium needs and wonder if the reintroduction of dairy has anything to do with things - am going to need to do an elimination trial to see what happens.

How are you doing? are you in the uk or abroad? and where and when has your ES been the best and the worst??

best

Steph

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From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2012, 19:22
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES


 
Steph, long time! How are things?

________________________________
From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2012, 18:24
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES

 
I would happily spend any amount of money to get a good night's sleep

I have a wooden frame bed and a memory foam mattress and still my be vibrates - worse some times than others - at times when it is at the worst it feels like the bed is going to lift off the ground the vibrations are so strong - would a canopy help with that do you think? (BTW like you I too had no problems with a metal frame bed until I became EHS and then it was like being slicked with an electric current while trying to sleep on it)

Steph

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From: bestsurprise2 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2012, 2:28
Subject: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES

 
I didn't express myself very well - I did not have any issues with the metal frame in the past- not until I developed EMS did the metal frame cause any problems. I got a wooden bed platform because my bed was vibrating all night.  It felt like when a large truck goes by - the ground seems to vibrate, well my bed did that all night.

Now I also have a canopy made from Swiss Shield Naturel and I sleep so deeply that if the house caught on fire I don't know if I would wake up. I know I haven't slept this well for at least 4 years.. Most nights I would  wake up at least 4 times a night, and I would be soaked from perspiration --now that does not happen anymore.

I am not happy with how much I paid for the canopy --it was a total fluke and  I was just lucky that I happened to get the money for it - but I cannot argue how much better it is to get a decent night's sleep. But it annoys me - it would have been nice if I could have spent some of that money on something that I enjoyed.......

blessings
Shan

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Do you eat sardines, I think they area  good source of  calcium and omegas, but being relatively low on the food chain, I think they contain minimal pollutants. What a world we live in when we can't even eat our fish!



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 From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2012, 16:52
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES
 

 
Long time is right Ada - in short things with me are not great - literally every week some utility or other [the water co, the electric co, the gas co] is digging up the road for some reason or other and each time they do so my ES is dreadful - I would move if I could but that isn't feasible for the time being - it seems like I am getting dirty elec in to the house from the water and gas pipework most likely. I'd give anything for some sort of device which would ameliorate if a bit.

I went gluten free and dairy free for a year but over the last month or so I have gone back on the dairy a bit because of calcium needs and wonder if the reintroduction of dairy has anything to do with things - am going to need to do an elimination trial to see what happens.

How are you doing? are you in the uk or abroad? and where and when has your ES been the best and the worst??

best

Steph

________________________________
From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2012, 19:22
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES


 
Steph, long time! How are things?

________________________________
From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2012, 18:24
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES

 
I would happily spend any amount of money to get a good night's sleep

I have a wooden frame bed and a memory foam mattress and still my be vibrates - worse some times than others - at times when it is at the worst it feels like the bed is going to lift off the ground the vibrations are so strong - would a canopy help with that do you think? (BTW like you I too had no problems with a metal frame bed until I became EHS and then it was like being slicked with an electric current while trying to sleep on it)

Steph

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From: bestsurprise2 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2012, 2:28
Subject: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES

 
I didn't express myself very well - I did not have any issues with the metal frame in the past- not until I developed EMS did the metal frame cause any problems. I got a wooden bed platform because my bed was vibrating all night.  It felt like when a large truck goes by - the ground seems to vibrate, well my bed did that all night.

Now I also have a canopy made from Swiss Shield Naturel and I sleep so deeply that if the house caught on fire I don't know if I would wake up. I know I haven't slept this well for at least 4 years.. Most nights I would  wake up at least 4 times a night, and I would be soaked from perspiration --now that does not happen anymore.

I am not happy with how much I paid for the canopy --it was a total fluke and  I was just lucky that I happened to get the money for it - but I cannot argue how much better it is to get a decent night's sleep. But it annoys me - it would have been nice if I could have spent some of that money on something that I enjoyed.......

blessings
Shan

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THanks for the advice Ada - have tried sardines but am not a huge fan - but look like I am going to have to try again - am researching other calcium containing foods and while I do eat many on the list - with a few exceptions- you would need to be eating them in industrial sized quantities to get the RDA of calcium

best 

Steph


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 From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2012, 18:01
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES
 

 
Do you eat sardines, I think they area  good source of  calcium and omegas, but being relatively low on the food chain, I think they contain minimal pollutants. What a world we live in when we can't even eat our fish!

________________________________
From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2012, 16:52
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES


 
Long time is right Ada - in short things with me are not great - literally every week some utility or other [the water co, the electric co, the gas co] is digging up the road for some reason or other and each time they do so my ES is dreadful - I would move if I could but that isn't feasible for the time being - it seems like I am getting dirty elec in to the house from the water and gas pipework most likely. I'd give anything for some sort of device which would ameliorate if a bit.

I went gluten free and dairy free for a year but over the last month or so I have gone back on the dairy a bit because of calcium needs and wonder if the reintroduction of dairy has anything to do with things - am going to need to do an elimination trial to see what happens.

How are you doing? are you in the uk or abroad? and where and when has your ES been the best and the worst??

best

Steph

________________________________
From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2012, 19:22
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES

 
Steph, long time! How are things?

________________________________
From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2012, 18:24
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES

 
I would happily spend any amount of money to get a good night's sleep

I have a wooden frame bed and a memory foam mattress and still my be vibrates - worse some times than others - at times when it is at the worst it feels like the bed is going to lift off the ground the vibrations are so strong - would a canopy help with that do you think? (BTW like you I too had no problems with a metal frame bed until I became EHS and then it was like being slicked with an electric current while trying to sleep on it)

Steph

________________________________
From: bestsurprise2 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2012, 2:28
Subject: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES

 
I didn't express myself very well - I did not have any issues with the metal frame in the past- not until I developed EMS did the metal frame cause any problems. I got a wooden bed platform because my bed was vibrating all night.  It felt like when a large truck goes by - the ground seems to vibrate, well my bed did that all night.

Now I also have a canopy made from Swiss Shield Naturel and I sleep so deeply that if the house caught on fire I don't know if I would wake up. I know I haven't slept this well for at least 4 years.. Most nights I would  wake up at least 4 times a night, and I would be soaked from perspiration --now that does not happen anymore.

I am not happy with how much I paid for the canopy --it was a total fluke and  I was just lucky that I happened to get the money for it - but I cannot argue how much better it is to get a decent night's sleep. But it annoys me - it would have been nice if I could have spent some of that money on something that I enjoyed.......

blessings
Shan

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On August 20, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> THanks for the advice Ada - have tried sardines but am not a huge fan

Heh, heh... yes, sardines are supposed to give you all of the benefits
of eating fish without the problems of contamination.  But I've
generally found that sardines taste terrible!  Although you
should note that not all sardines taste the same, and some
I've found to be not that bad at all.  My current favorite
is:

 "Angelo Parodi Brand Portuguese Sardines Skinless and Boneless in Olive Oil"

I used to be able to get these at my local health food store, but
they discontinued these so I now buy them online.

Marc

Hi Ada 
I have just read your email and on each point you make I said a quiet "yes" to myself - your situation mirrors mine entirely!

I think in the UK the proliferation of EMFs is going to gradually overwhelm others not currently affected and the digital switchover is going to affect people since the digital signal is going to be boosted and that is just one example - in my own case Belfast has been singled out for the roll out of free wifi everywhere across the city and this is greeted as being great news whilst I am wondering am I alone in worrying about the health effects? and now free wifi is going to be provided here on buses and trains - yet more difficulty for me and further isolation - and as for the holidays situation and sharing spaces - i couldn't agree more - no matter how reasonably I request the limiting of the use of the devices I am viewed as "odd" [that I can live with] and as for trying to explain dirty electricity to people and the need to unplug stuff when it isn't in use I am just viewed as a pain because it is tiresome to keep unplugging and plugging stuff in - I
 noticed that at the end of my road about 300 yards from my home some workmen were working on one of those green "comms" infrastructure boxes with a mast of some description beside it - and the other day I noticed that the mast had been upgraded - could that be the reason why my ES at home is worse? am I being exposed to something new? some stronger frequency?? and what really angers me is the secrecy with which this is done - every other utility which works on the road has to identify themselves by signage etc but these guys didn't - if there is nothing harmful with this stuff they are erecting why so secret???? kind of begs the question doesn't it? I agree with you about worrying about the future but I think that all we can do is continue to work on detoxing and supporting our bodies and try not to worry too much about it - I know if I stress about it I get worse 

Good for you trying to draw management's attention to the wifi problem - can you imagine if that was an area where patients were staying or were being treated what the impact of the wifi on their sleeping and their chances of healing would be??? 

I came across a good website on ES by a uk doctor who became ES and had to give up work - i think it was called electromagneticman or something like that - I'll check again - that to me was a breakthrough since I wouldn't dream of telling my doctor I was ES for fear of him sending for the men in white coats so to have a doctor suffer from it and recognise it is quite significant - he seems to be campaigning for recognition too which is good - you should definitely check the site out if you can.

Have you tried any EMF protection products or anything?

Steph



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 From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2012, 17:59
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES
 

 
Hi good to hear from you! still in the uk, on some levels physical fitness has improved ( I attribute this to doing green smoothies,cutting out sugar, physical xrcise and yoga) In terms of ES things are the same, which is mostly overwhelm, not so much because I am getting worse, but that the sources of EMF seem to be increasing exponentially. Public transport and crowds seem to be the latest culprit because so  many people use smart phones all the time! EVERYWHERE!! probably like you simple things become a challenge ( like replacing the hot water pump so now the emf in my bedroom has intensified) Going anywhere for holidays or visits requires prior planning and vetting ( is there wifi? do they have CFL bulbs, plasma screens etc) I've since discovered that it is near on impossible to get a hotel room that doesn't have wifi in it.And when sharing space with others you are really at the mercy of who you live with, some are bemusedly sympathetic, whilst
many  just think you are mad or neurotic. I had an interesting dilemma with the last place I worked which was a hospital. In the last week I heard they were going to wifi the whole unit which is a massive unit, and would require very very strong routers. So before I left, I downloaded every clinical paper I could find on the subject and sent it to management. I doubt they will listen, but at least I tried. Any way that's me, But seriously i do worry about the future, because as things stand now, living in an urban area is such a struggle.

________________________________
From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2012, 16:52
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES


 
Long time is right Ada - in short things with me are not great - literally every week some utility or other [the water co, the electric co, the gas co] is digging up the road for some reason or other and each time they do so my ES is dreadful - I would move if I could but that isn't feasible for the time being - it seems like I am getting dirty elec in to the house from the water and gas pipework most likely. I'd give anything for some sort of device which would ameliorate if a bit.

I went gluten free and dairy free for a year but over the last month or so I have gone back on the dairy a bit because of calcium needs and wonder if the reintroduction of dairy has anything to do with things - am going to need to do an elimination trial to see what happens.

How are you doing? are you in the uk or abroad? and where and when has your ES been the best and the worst??

best

Steph

________________________________
From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2012, 19:22
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES

 
Steph, long time! How are things?

________________________________
From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2012, 18:24
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES

 
I would happily spend any amount of money to get a good night's sleep

I have a wooden frame bed and a memory foam mattress and still my be vibrates - worse some times than others - at times when it is at the worst it feels like the bed is going to lift off the ground the vibrations are so strong - would a canopy help with that do you think? (BTW like you I too had no problems with a metal frame bed until I became EHS and then it was like being slicked with an electric current while trying to sleep on it)

Steph

________________________________
From: bestsurprise2 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2012, 2:28
Subject: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES

 
I didn't express myself very well - I did not have any issues with the metal frame in the past- not until I developed EMS did the metal frame cause any problems. I got a wooden bed platform because my bed was vibrating all night.  It felt like when a large truck goes by - the ground seems to vibrate, well my bed did that all night.

Now I also have a canopy made from Swiss Shield Naturel and I sleep so deeply that if the house caught on fire I don't know if I would wake up. I know I haven't slept this well for at least 4 years.. Most nights I would  wake up at least 4 times a night, and I would be soaked from perspiration --now that does not happen anymore.

I am not happy with how much I paid for the canopy --it was a total fluke and  I was just lucky that I happened to get the money for it - but I cannot argue how much better it is to get a decent night's sleep. But it annoys me - it would have been nice if I could have spent some of that money on something that I enjoyed.......

blessings
Shan

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Hi Diane

This - as always from you! - is excellent and wise advice.

I also feel the vibrations when I am sitting outside on a sunny day - as well as inside the house and usually wake up feeling them in the early hours of the morning. Thanks for the tip re the Quercetin and the ubiquinol.
love

Steph


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 From: Evie <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2012, 5:28
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Vibrating Beds
 

 
Hi, Marji, Shan, Bioboly.....

I have done extensive experiments on my "vibrating" bed.... 

If I leave my washing machine plugged in and the dial in the "on" position, it alone can cause my bed to vibrate.  (Shan, this might be connected to your vibrating bed, re on the same circuit with your furnace.  Your furnace and washer really "should" be on separate circuits, code-wise.)  However, in my newer house (long story--couldn't sell the old one due to the economy, so I have 2 houses...), the original furnace there had digital frequencies which caused my bed to vibrate there, and the bed was a vinyl air mattress with no metal or springs!  So we bought a "floor furnace" without any digital, wireless, OR fan on it and I found the vibrating went away.  (Esther, I use a feather bed and an anti-allergenic zip-up cover on my vinyl air-mattress to make it more comfortable.  I like the old fashioned feather beds which have no pockets or channels in them.  You can then shake them periodically so they don't compact over time.)  

However, still there were/ are 4 hour intervals during which my bed +/or sofa and chairs vibrate (a different time every day, usually/with sometimes vacations of 2 or 3 weeks from this) which seems to be coming from outside my house--tho those freqs possibly also do ride on my house's electrics.  The only thing which helps this vibrating is 1) getting up on my feet and moving around, or 2) taking lots of B12, which seems to eliminate my ability to feel the vibrational frequencies.  (I think quercetin helps, too, as well as ubiquinol.)

What I found was there are many causes of the vibrating bed--too many to enumerate here.  All causes, tho, seemed to go back to 1) wireless freqs coming in from outside;  2)straight out vibrational freqs caused by trains and vehicles, etc; or 3) freqs riding on my houses' electrics from my own appliances or from electric line sources outside my house (often enough it has been from inside my house that if I feel vibrating now, I make rounds of my house to check for appliances or lights which might have been left on, or were left plugged in and do not have an "off", etc).

I know this because I pull a plug, and voila, no more vibrating; I turn off the circuits and, voila, no more vibrating; I take b12 and, voila, no more vibrating.....  I don't have vibrating 24/ 7.  There has been a distinguishable pattern.  I have not been able to identify the source(s) of the 4 hour intervals, only enough to know they are from outside--I can also feel them outside my house if I do not take all my supplements in a timely fashion or let my health slide.

Yet another source of vibrating was my fridge when it kicked on.  Another source of the vibrating bed was switch related--2 switches for the same light or lights on dimmers.  Lights on dimmers can cause it if they are in a dimmed position; lights with 2 switches can cause it when both switches are on "on" (but the light is off)--in other words, you turn the light on in one location and turn it off ("on") in the other location.  Also, I found double grounding rods (possibly done improperly) to cause this, and electric wires touching metal pipes to cause this. 

It really helps to know as much as possible about electrics and wiring and then check all the possible causes, but I started from scratch and kind of "intuited" it as I went along.  I was an electric dummy--and still have lots to learn now.  Many of you can do this if you try.  We are very aware of electrics without sometimes knowing it.  Our bodies are aware when wiring is not right.  Try one plug or switch at a time, lay down and feel whether you are still vibrating, and so on--give yourself enough time; sometimes I initially vibrate and it leaves after 3 or 4 minutes.  When you are starting out, try turning off the electric circuit breaker altogether.  How does that feel?  Take notes, write down all the variables and systematically go thru your list.  Unplug everything unpluggable and see how that feels.  If you have your electric circuits off and still feel vibrating, you are likely dealing with wireless from meters or towers, or sources
from neighbors coming in on your electric lines, water pipes, or gas pipes (possibly tv cable, etc.); but occasionally you can be reacting to something with an antenna or chip on/ in it inside your house.  

As to the supplements...  they will only work for you when you have gotten to a certain level in your immune health.  There is basic healing which you have to accomplish before B12 is going to work for you (I took B12 for years and still had vibrating.  It wasn't until a homeopath successfully detoxed my bone marrow that I started to see help for the vibrations with B12.)

I am not saying it is not possible for some to be reacting to Naval installations, but it is much more likely the source of your vibrations are closer to home.  ;)

Good luck; I hope you find the sources of your vibrating easily,
Diane

 

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From: Marjij <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:12 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Vibrating Beds


> I am in Michigan, and there
> is supposed to be a us navy underground
>
> "Radar" system going between
> MI and Ohio.)
> this past year.

> I will try to find the source
> where I read of this.

LIZZIE, yes, do try to find the source.  This is alarming. Robert Becker in his book, "The Body Is Electric," talked about the Navy's signal system that was designed to contack submarines when they are under water. The only signal that can reach them is a very low frequency signal, and they sent it over land on it's way to the subs in the Pacific.  Robert Becker won a legal decision that it was affecting the residents who lived in the area beneath the signal.  I don't recall if the signal was sent through the air or through the ground, but it was definitely causing health problems.

If they are doing it again, they are breaking the law, but, what else is new?  Anyway, if this is what you suspect is causing your vibrations you may have hit on a seriously dangerous environmental hazard.  Something to bring to the attention of your local government... hahaha... I don't mean to make light of this. Just a bit cynical... but this will affect everybody in the area though they may not "feel" it, being not as sensitive as you.  But their bodies will be affected.

Marji 

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good tip Marc - thanks


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 From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, 20 August 2012, 18:20
Subject: Re: [eSens] sardines
 

 
On August 20, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> THanks for the advice Ada - have tried sardines but am not a huge fan

Heh, heh... yes, sardines are supposed to give you all of the benefits
of eating fish without the problems of contamination.  But I've
generally found that sardines taste terrible!  Although you
should note that not all sardines taste the same, and some
I've found to be not that bad at all.  My current favorite
is:

"Angelo Parodi Brand Portuguese Sardines Skinless and Boneless in Olive Oil"

I used to be able to get these at my local health food store, but
they discontinued these so I now buy them online.

Marc

 

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Hi Snoshoe 

Are you in the UK? I wasn't aware that there was much tectonic activity in the UK? 

In my case I doubt that that is the cause - since if so then I would have experienced the vibes in my house from the day i moved into it - I didn't start to feel vibes until I became sensitised and I think in my case it had something to do with cabling being laid in the road next to my house and some sort of damage being done which sent stray current around - it was literally one day I was ok and then next day i was extremely ES and felt the slicking of the electric current when before I had felt none

Steph


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 From: snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2012, 17:24
Subject: [eSens] Re: Beds for ES
 

 
Just saw this one, I just replied under vibrating beds, because mine
should not do that either but does, but some of this is probably tectonic as well.

~ Snoshoe

> >
> > I have a wooden frame bed and a memory foam mattress and still my be vibrates - worse some times than others - at times when it is at the worst it feels like the bed is going to lift off the ground the vibrations are so strong - would a canopy help with that do you think? (BTW like you I too had no problems with a metal frame bed until I became EHS and then it was like being slicked with an electric current while trying to sleep on it)
> >
> > Steph
> >


 

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sardines are very good with diced onion mixed in.... on top of a cracker.  Yuuuuuum :)

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From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] sardines
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Monday, August 20, 2012, 11:43 AM


good tip Marc - thanks


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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, 20 August 2012, 18:20
Subject: Re: [eSens] sardines


 
On August 20, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> THanks for the advice Ada - have tried sardines but am not a huge fan

Heh, heh... yes, sardines are supposed to give you all of the benefits
of eating fish without the problems of contamination.  But I've
generally found that sardines taste terrible!  Although you
should note that not all sardines taste the same, and some
I've found to be not that bad at all.  My current favorite
is:

"Angelo Parodi Brand Portuguese Sardines Skinless and Boneless in Olive Oil"

I used to be able to get these at my local health food store, but
they discontinued these so I now buy them online.

Marc



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> am researching other calcium containing foods and while I do eat many
> on the list - with a few exceptions- you would need to be eating them
> in industrial sized quantities to get the RDA of calcium

I believe that the RDA for calcium makes the assumption that you are
getting your calcium from "calcium carbonate" supplements.  Only a
small portion of a calcium carbonate gets utilized by your
body, so the RDA is very high.

If you are getting your calcium from a different source -- food, or
a supplement with better absorption than calcium carbonate, then
you don't need to consume so much of it.

Marc

Calcium citrate will be best absorbed by the body.

On: http://www.vitalworld.org/fst-0.htm

one may download the chapters of the book *Flow System* by Han Stiekema M.D.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Charles Claessens
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Marc Martin
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [eSens] calcium


  > am researching other calcium containing foods and while I do eat many
  > on the list - with a few exceptions- you would need to be eating them
  > in industrial sized quantities to get the RDA of calcium

  I believe that the RDA for calcium makes the assumption that you are
  getting your calcium from "calcium carbonate" supplements.  Only a
  small portion of a calcium carbonate gets utilized by your
  body, so the RDA is very high.

  If you are getting your calcium from a different source -- food, or
  a supplement with better absorption than calcium carbonate, then
  you don't need to consume so much of it.

  Marc


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Please look into AlgaeCal, a wild-harvested, plant-sourced calcium derived from a South American marine algae called Algas Calcareas. This is
as good as it gets in terms of foodstate calcium in supplement dosages. 


http://www.algaecal.com/


Large online retailers like iherb or vitacost carry several brands using AlgaeCal-


Cheers,


Ole





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Hello Ole,

you are quite right about this.

Thanks for the tip.


Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ole Alstrup
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [eSens] calcium


  Please look into AlgaeCal, a wild-harvested, plant-sourced calcium derived from a South American marine algae called Algas Calcareas. This is
  as good as it gets in terms of foodstate calcium in supplement dosages.


  http://www.algaecal.com/


  Large online retailers like iherb or vitacost carry several brands using AlgaeCal-


  Cheers,


  Ole





  >________________________________
  > From: charles <[hidden email]>
  >To: [hidden email]
  >Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2012, 20:52
  >Subject: Re: [eSens] calcium
  >
  >
  >
  >Calcium citrate will be best absorbed by the body.
  >
  >On: http://www.vitalworld.org/fst-0.htm
  >
  >one may download the chapters of the book *Flow System* by Han Stiekema M.D.
  >
  >Mit freundlichen Grüßen
  >Charles Claessens
  >Mitglied Verband Baubiologie
  >www.milieuziektes.nl
  >www.milieuziektes.be
  >www.minderstraling.nl
  >www.hetbitje.nl
  >kontrolliert durch Emsisoft
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  >----- Original Message -----
  >From: Marc Martin
  >To: [hidden email]
  >Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:42 PM
  >Subject: Re: [eSens] calcium
  >
  >> am researching other calcium containing foods and while I do eat many
  >> on the list - with a few exceptions- you would need to be eating them
  >> in industrial sized quantities to get the RDA of calcium
  >
  >I believe that the RDA for calcium makes the assumption that you are
  >getting your calcium from "calcium carbonate" supplements.  Only a
  >small portion of a calcium carbonate gets utilized by your
  >body, so the RDA is very high.
  >
  >If you are getting your calcium from a different source -- food, or
  >a supplement with better absorption than calcium carbonate, then
  >you don't need to consume so much of it.
  >
  >Marc
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> Karen, Jan, Snowshoe, Shaun, and others... please indicate where you are located again.  I am going to do a map... if this has anything to do with underground work, or if it's techtonic movement, we might learn something.  This is really an interesting phenomenon, even though it may be dangerous to us.  Thanks, hope this will be of interest to you too.
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