Be wary about EMF protection devices

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> > I'm seeing a lot of mention about EMF protection devices.
> > Please be cautious, because they may not be protecting you.
>
> Well, we tend to judge things as "working" if they make us
> feel better. Is this Alasdair Philips even ES? And he
> limits his discussion to only 2 devices, when I can think
> of more than 50 different manufacturers of such devices.
> It's impossible to make such sweeping generalizations
> about "all devices" when you've hardly tried any.
>
> Marc
>

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> I'm seeing a lot of mention about EMF protection devices.
> Please be cautious, because they may not be protecting you.
>
> http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=39
>
> "Comments on the Q-Link Pendant from Alasdair Philip"
> "The Q-link pendant by Clarus that has been discussed recently is
> worthless as a physical EMF protection device. I have fully tested mine
> and then destructively tested it. They claim it is a microchip and a
> resonant circuit. In fact it is a coil, connected to nothing and a small
> single-sided printed circuit board with a pretty gold plated pattern on
> it and what looks like a surface mount capacitor mounted on it. When I
> took it apart it turned out to be a surface mount shorting link soldered
> to two copper pads which were not connected to anything else. The unit
> had no resonances between 1 Hz and 1000 MHz. Absolutely of no possible
> EMF protection value. A complete con. Like carrying new `religious
> relics' around hoping they will bring you luck."
>
> http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/columns/aphilips/index.asp#16
>
> # Q-link, Bio-Pro and other 'gizmos'
> "I wouldn't go near that stuff with a very long pole. We have had an
> example of products from both firms and believe that they are completely
> ineffective and lack any scientific basis that would suggest otherwise."
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> > Is this Alasdair Philips even ES?
>
> I'm not sure if Alasdair Philips of Powerwatch UK is ES or not, but he
> is actually one of the leading scientists in this field warning about
> EMF.
>
> I believe he invented the electrosmog detector, so he must at least be
> concerned about people with ES. He was featured in the BBC Panorama's
> "WiFi: A Warning Signal".
>
> The Powerwatch website has mention of ES and microwave sickness:
> http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/health/sensitivity.asp
> http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/health/micro_sickness.asp
>
> I think George Carlo also once wrote some warning about protection
> devices on the radiationresearch.org website, but the link is now gone.
>
> Personally, I prefer only devices if I can objectively test that they're
> reducing something.
> E.g., Graham-Stetzer filter's efficacy can actually be measured by
> meter. Shielding cloths/plastic's efficacy can also be measured by a
> meter.
>
> However, I don't want to spend a fortune on something I can't test,
> especially when people are warning about it. I don't want to buy 50
> expensive devices just to find out which one works.
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm seeing a lot of mention about EMF protection devices.
> > > Please be cautious, because they may not be protecting you.
> >
> > Well, we tend to judge things as "working" if they make us
> > feel better. Is this Alasdair Philips even ES? And he
> > limits his discussion to only 2 devices, when I can think
> > of more than 50 different manufacturers of such devices.
> > It's impossible to make such sweeping generalizations
> > about "all devices" when you've hardly tried any.
> >
> > Marc
> >
>

>> I'm seeing a lot of mention about EMF protection devices.
>> Please be cautious, because they may not be protecting you.
>
> Well, we tend to judge things as "working" if they make us
> feel better. Is this Alasdair Philips even ES? And he
> limits his discussion to only 2 devices, when I can think
> of more than 50 different manufacturers of such devices.
> It's impossible to make such sweeping generalizations
> about "all devices" when you've hardly tried any.
>
> Marc
>
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>> I'm seeing a lot of mention about EMF protection devices.
>> Please be cautious, because they may not be protecting you.
>
> Well, we tend to judge things as "working" if they make us
> feel better. Is this Alasdair Philips even ES? And he
> limits his discussion to only 2 devices, when I can think
> of more than 50 different manufacturers of such devices.
> It's impossible to make such sweeping generalizations
> about "all devices" when you've hardly tried any.
>
> Marc
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

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> Interesting. I have the QLink & in the beginning it seemed to be helping a bit. But as I wear it every day I don't see much of a benefit after the initial say 2 to 3 weeks.
>  
> May be it was something else that I was experiencing. Not sure.
>  
> None of the devices seem to be helping that much for me to be worth the money. 
>  
> Loni
>
> --- On Sat, 6/12/10, emraware <emraware@...> wrote:
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> From: emraware <emraware@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Be wary about EMF protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 7:07 PM
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> I'm seeing a lot of mention about EMF protection devices.
> Please be cautious, because they may not be protecting you.
>
> http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=39
>
> "Comments on the Q-Link Pendant from Alasdair Philip"
> "The Q-link pendant by Clarus that has been discussed recently is
> worthless as a physical EMF protection device. I have fully tested mine
> and then destructively tested it. They claim it is a microchip and a
> resonant circuit. In fact it is a coil, connected to nothing and a small
> single-sided printed circuit board with a pretty gold plated pattern on
> it and what looks like a surface mount capacitor mounted on it. When I
> took it apart it turned out to be a surface mount shorting link soldered
> to two copper pads which were not connected to anything else. The unit
> had no resonances between 1 Hz and 1000 MHz. Absolutely of no possible
> EMF protection value. A complete con. Like carrying new `religious
> relics' around hoping they will bring you luck."
>
> http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/columns/aphilips/index.asp#16
>
> # Q-link, Bio-Pro and other 'gizmos'
> "I wouldn't go near that stuff with a very long pole. We have had an
> example of products from both firms and believe that they are completely
> ineffective and lack any scientific basis that would suggest otherwise."
>
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> > Resetting the Tachyon is already 6 months on my list, after reading
> > Charles recommendations that you should reset Tachyon energy (like stones
> > with the purple plate for instance)
>
> I was under the impression that "true" tachyon devices didn't require
> resetting/cleansing. I don't think they absorb negative energy, but
> merely act as antennae for tachyon energy (?)
>
> > I think only Marc here uses Tachyon. Marc also gets more energy (Tachyon
> > definitely does give more energy!), but he mentioned that his ES symptoms
> > got worse with Tachyon...
>
> Searching the archives, you should find that there have been a couple
> people here reporting positive reports with Tachyon (Ole, and there was
> someone else named "Perla" or something like that).
>
> Personally, I find that tachyon is like most things for me -- beneficial
> in very small amounts, and causes adverse side effects in the amounts
> recommended by the manufacturer.
>
> Also, I've tried tachyon products from 3 different manufacturers, and
> there is certainly a difference in the effects you get from each
> manufacturer, but also differences from different materials tachyonized
> by the same manufacturer.
>
> And personally, the best item for me is also one of the cheapest --
> the cotton wristbands from Advanced Tachyon Technologies. Although
> lately I have been experimenting with a "donut" from Materia
> Tachyon Incognita which seemed good for short durations. But both
> of these items seem to be better used AWAY from EMF sources, at
> least for me.
>
> Marc
>

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>  
> Hallo,
> discussing these neutralzing devices from a standpoint of standard physics  
> and electronics is the wrong approach, if at the same time you dont check
> the biological harmful effect of EMF while using these devices. This harmful
> effect disappears in spite of the fact that the measurable waves remain
> unchanged and in spite of the fact, that these devices seem to be nonsense
> from the viewpoint of normal physics. Just this observation brings aboutthe
> question, what else the real nature of electrosmog is. This would be a
> longer explanation, I have tried several times in this forum, and some people
> did understand. Also Vinny some time ago in this list evidently understood
> this through his own research.
>  
> In short. The biological harmful effect of EMF is not caused through the  
> measurable waves but through some other waves, inherent in the measurable
> waves, that have been discovered by Nicola Tesla and are called Tesla waves or
> scalar waves. They follow different laws of physics and therefore a
> technology to influence them will look different and can not be understood by
> normal electro physics. So laughing at these devices is just ignorance. And to
> be honest, you have to check their biological effects because that is what
> matters.
>  
> dietrich
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>  
> n einer eMail vom 13.06.2010 04:09:32 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt  
> emraware@...:
>
>  
> I'm seeing a lot of mention about EMF protection devices.
> Please be cautious, because they may not be protecting you.
>
> _http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=39_ (http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=39)
>
> "Comments on the Q-Link Pendant from Alasdair Philip"
> "The Q-link pendant by Clarus that has been discussed recently is
> worthless as a physical EMF protection device. I have fully tested mine
> and then destructively tested it. They claim it is a microchip and a
> resonant circuit. In fact it is a coil, connected to nothing and a small
> single-sided printed circuit board with a pretty gold plated pattern on
> it and what looks like a surface mount capacitor mounted on it. When I
> took it apart it turned out to be a surface mount shorting link soldered
> to two copper pads which were not connected to anything else. The unit
> had no resonances between 1 Hz and 1000 MHz. Absolutely of no possible
> EMF protection value. A complete con. Like carrying new `religious
> relics' around hoping they will bring you luck."
>
> _http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/columns/aphilips/index.asp#16_
> (http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/columns/aphilips/index.asp#16)
>
> # Q-link, Bio-Pro and other 'gizmos'
> "I wouldn't go near that stuff with a very long pole. We have had an
> example of products from both firms and believe that they are completely
> ineffective and lack any scientific basis that would suggest otherwise."
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Okey thanks,
>
> Yes now I see, there seem to be a lotta products called "Tachyon"...
>
> Mine is from Albat "house energy ball":
> http://www.albat.nl/uk/index.html
>
> Albat is a Dutch company I think.
>
> I feel a big difference after resetting it, it was Charles who said Tachyon needed resetting, but maybe not all Tachyons need resetting...
>
> My bad symptoms got worse every year I thought, well why don't we test the Tachyon ball again! So for me it's clear now that it kept on emitting more bad vibes...
>
> Stephen.
>
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> --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Resetting the Tachyon is already 6 months on my list, after reading
>> > Charles recommendations that you should reset Tachyon energy (like stones
>> > with the purple plate for instance)
>>
>> I was under the impression that "true" tachyon devices didn't require
>> resetting/cleansing. I don't think they absorb negative energy, but
>> merely act as antennae for tachyon energy (?)
>>
>> > I think only Marc here uses Tachyon. Marc also gets more energy (Tachyon
>> > definitely does give more energy!), but he mentioned that his ES symptoms
>> > got worse with Tachyon...
>>
>> Searching the archives, you should find that there have been a couple
>> people here reporting positive reports with Tachyon (Ole, and there was
>> someone else named "Perla" or something like that).
>>
>> Personally, I find that tachyon is like most things for me -- beneficial
>> in very small amounts, and causes adverse side effects in the amounts
>> recommended by the manufacturer.
>>
>> Also, I've tried tachyon products from 3 different manufacturers, and
>> there is certainly a difference in the effects you get from each
>> manufacturer, but also differences from different materials tachyonized
>> by the same manufacturer.
>>
>> And personally, the best item for me is also one of the cheapest --
>> the cotton wristbands from Advanced Tachyon Technologies. Although
>> lately I have been experimenting with a "donut" from Materia
>> Tachyon Incognita which seemed good for short durations. But both
>> of these items seem to be better used AWAY from EMF sources, at
>> least for me.
>>
>> Marc
>>
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> Sorry, but I never said anything about resetting a Tachyon .
>
> I wrote that cristals need *cleaning* from time to time, because they canbe satisfied and start emitting then.
>
> We also do have the Albat ball, but it does nothing to us.
> It is my opinion that it only does something when your body tension current is high.
> Then one can feel some tension.
> But that is quite another story.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@...>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:21 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Be wary about EMF protection devices
>
>
> > Okey thanks,
> >
> > Yes now I see, there seem to be a lotta products called "Tachyon"...
> >
> > Mine is from Albat "house energy ball":
> > http://www.albat.nl/uk/index.html
> >
> > Albat is a Dutch company I think.
> >
> > I feel a big difference after resetting it, it was Charles who said Tachyon needed resetting, but maybe not all Tachyons need resetting...
> >
> > My bad symptoms got worse every year I thought, well why don't we test the Tachyon ball again! So for me it's clear now that it kept on emitting more bad vibes...
> >
> > Stephen.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Resetting the Tachyon is already 6 months on my list, after reading
> >> > Charles recommendations that you should reset Tachyon energy (like stones
> >> > with the purple plate for instance)
> >>
> >> I was under the impression that "true" tachyon devices didn't require
> >> resetting/cleansing. I don't think they absorb negative energy, but
> >> merely act as antennae for tachyon energy (?)
> >>
> >> > I think only Marc here uses Tachyon. Marc also gets more energy (Tachyon
> >> > definitely does give more energy!), but he mentioned that his ES symptoms
> >> > got worse with Tachyon...
> >>
> >> Searching the archives, you should find that there have been a couple
> >> people here reporting positive reports with Tachyon (Ole, and there was
> >> someone else named "Perla" or something like that).
> >>
> >> Personally, I find that tachyon is like most things for me -- beneficial
> >> in very small amounts, and causes adverse side effects in the amounts
> >> recommended by the manufacturer.
> >>
> >> Also, I've tried tachyon products from 3 different manufacturers, and
> >> there is certainly a difference in the effects you get from each
> >> manufacturer, but also differences from different materials tachyonized
> >> by the same manufacturer.
> >>
> >> And personally, the best item for me is also one of the cheapest --
> >> the cotton wristbands from Advanced Tachyon Technologies. Although
> >> lately I have been experimenting with a "donut" from Materia
> >> Tachyon Incognita which seemed good for short durations. But both
> >> of these items seem to be better used AWAY from EMF sources, at
> >> least for me.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
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