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Re: Be wary about EMF protection devices

charles-4
No, I did not say place it all the time there.
I said, placing an object on a purple plate for THREE days, not all the time.

The first time we saw an Tachyon ball, my wife felt an enormous amount of energy coming from it at a distance of 20-30 cm in her hands.

So I ordered one for us.
When it arrived , we tries to feel something, but nothing came.

We then trie sit with our neighbours, who did not feel anything either.
Then their son arrived, who has some health problems, and he tried the ball.
At a distance of 20-30 cm, holding his hands around it, he experienced an enormous heat in his hands, and he stopped with it, becaus he was afraid that he would *burn* his hands.

Afterwards, we tried it again, but to no evail.

WE think, that the ball gives something according to a special need. Or it relieves the body tension.

A high body tension can be felt, when you step out of a car, and when you touch metal, you feel a pain.
That is the body tension released to the metal.

All kinds of *loads* are transformed in the body into a AC current.
Advisable is 30 mV.
Most people do have 300-800 mV.
An electrical heating blanket may cause 4.000 mV.
And a waterbed 55.000 to 100.000 mV, that is between 55 and 100 Volt.

Btw. what type or brand of carbon shirt are you wearing?

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton





----- Original Message -----
From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:48 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Be wary about EMF protection devices


> With the Albat on the purple plate all the time, I know it's better that way. Problem is that for a long time it still isn't good for my knees.
>
> Interesting what you say about body tension current. Is this direclty linked with a bad central nerve system? Should I work on sth specific? Relaxation probably?
>
> That may confirm why I'm better if I wear the carbon t-shirt for one hour or so... It may reduce some of my body tension...
>
> I know for a fact Tachyon lowers my ES(-symptoms). So in your opinion Charles, this must be because Tachyon lowers my body tension current?
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, but I never said anything about resetting a Tachyon .
>>
>> I wrote that cristals need *cleaning* from time to time, because they can be satisfied and start emitting then.
>>
>> We also do have the Albat ball, but it does nothing to us.
>> It is my opinion that it only does something when your body tension current is high.
>> Then one can feel some tension.
>> But that is quite another story.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Charles Claessens
>> member Verband Baubiologie
>> www.milieuziektes.nl
>> www.milieuziektes.be
>> www.hetbitje.nl
>> checked by Norton
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@...>
>> To: <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:21 PM
>> Subject: [eSens] Re: Be wary about EMF protection devices
>>
>>
>> > Okey thanks,
>> >
>> > Yes now I see, there seem to be a lotta products called "Tachyon"...
>> >
>> > Mine is from Albat "house energy ball":
>> > http://www.albat.nl/uk/index.html
>> >
>> > Albat is a Dutch company I think.
>> >
>> > I feel a big difference after resetting it, it was Charles who said Tachyon needed resetting, but maybe not all Tachyons need resetting...
>> >
>> > My bad symptoms got worse every year I thought, well why don't we test the Tachyon ball again! So for me it's clear now that it kept on emitting more bad vibes...
>> >
>> > Stephen.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Resetting the Tachyon is already 6 months on my list, after reading
>> >> > Charles recommendations that you should reset Tachyon energy (like stones
>> >> > with the purple plate for instance)
>> >>
>> >> I was under the impression that "true" tachyon devices didn't require
>> >> resetting/cleansing. I don't think they absorb negative energy, but
>> >> merely act as antennae for tachyon energy (?)
>> >>
>> >> > I think only Marc here uses Tachyon. Marc also gets more energy (Tachyon
>> >> > definitely does give more energy!), but he mentioned that his ES symptoms
>> >> > got worse with Tachyon...
>> >>
>> >> Searching the archives, you should find that there have been a couple
>> >> people here reporting positive reports with Tachyon (Ole, and there was
>> >> someone else named "Perla" or something like that).
>> >>
>> >> Personally, I find that tachyon is like most things for me -- beneficial
>> >> in very small amounts, and causes adverse side effects in the amounts
>> >> recommended by the manufacturer.
>> >>
>> >> Also, I've tried tachyon products from 3 different manufacturers, and
>> >> there is certainly a difference in the effects you get from each
>> >> manufacturer, but also differences from different materials tachyonized
>> >> by the same manufacturer.
>> >>
>> >> And personally, the best item for me is also one of the cheapest --
>> >> the cotton wristbands from Advanced Tachyon Technologies. Although
>> >> lately I have been experimenting with a "donut" from Materia
>> >> Tachyon Incognita which seemed good for short durations. But both
>> >> of these items seem to be better used AWAY from EMF sources, at
>> >> least for me.
>> >>
>> >> Marc
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Be wary about EMF protection devices

stephen_vandevijvere
I know, cleaning is putting it on the purple plate for a couple of days, I've done that when the ball was still in the woods!

But the 2 combined constantly purple plate + Tachyon Albat ball feels even better for me. Probably in that case there is more purple plate energy in the air (and purple plate seems good for my bones).

(although I think once the Tachyon Albat ball was cleaned it was better already than before)

The Tachyon Albat ball feels very strong for me, I can even feel it when it's in the corn field 100 meters away from my house! It gives me a lot of energy and lowers my ES... Just a pity that for my knees/back it doesn't seemto be that good! I think this may be because of dehydration and/or too lowon minerals, don't know.


When stepping out of a car, touching metal and feeling a pain, well I have had that, but not so often.

About the amount of mV. A Dutch therapist who works specifically on centralnerve system has measured me between 30mV (after a session) and more (her meter only goes to 100).


The brand of the carbon t-shirt I wear is Cosmo Vital. They also have bed pads:
http://www.cosmovital.com/products_frame.htm
It says it reduces body tension...


Thanks for the info Charles, it makes my problem a bit more clear to me,
Stephen.



--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:

>
> No, I did not say place it all the time there.
> I said, placing an object on a purple plate for THREE days, not all the time.
>
> The first time we saw an Tachyon ball, my wife felt an enormous amount ofenergy coming from it at a distance of 20-30 cm in her hands.
>
> So I ordered one for us.
> When it arrived , we tries to feel something, but nothing came.
>
> We then trie sit with our neighbours, who did not feel anything either.
> Then their son arrived, who has some health problems, and he tried the ball.
> At a distance of 20-30 cm, holding his hands around it, he experienced anenormous heat in his hands, and he stopped with it, becaus he was afraid that he would *burn* his hands.
>
> Afterwards, we tried it again, but to no evail.
>
> WE think, that the ball gives something according to a special need. Or it relieves the body tension.
>
> A high body tension can be felt, when you step out of a car, and when youtouch metal, you feel a pain.
> That is the body tension released to the metal.
>
> All kinds of *loads* are transformed in the body into a AC current.
> Advisable is 30 mV.
> Most people do have 300-800 mV.
> An electrical heating blanket may cause 4.000 mV.
> And a waterbed 55.000 to 100.000 mV, that is between 55 and 100 Volt.
>
> Btw. what type or brand of carbon shirt are you wearing?
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
>
>  
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@...>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:48 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Be wary about EMF protection devices
>
>
> > With the Albat on the purple plate all the time, I know it's better that way. Problem is that for a long time it still isn't good for my knees.
> >
> > Interesting what you say about body tension current. Is this direclty linked with a bad central nerve system? Should I work on sth specific? Relaxation probably?
> >
> > That may confirm why I'm better if I wear the carbon t-shirt for one hour or so... It may reduce some of my body tension...
> >
> > I know for a fact Tachyon lowers my ES(-symptoms). So in your opinion Charles, this must be because Tachyon lowers my body tension current?
> >
> > Stephen.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry, but I never said anything about resetting a Tachyon .
> >>
> >> I wrote that cristals need *cleaning* from time to time, because they can be satisfied and start emitting then.
> >>
> >> We also do have the Albat ball, but it does nothing to us.
> >> It is my opinion that it only does something when your body tension current is high.
> >> Then one can feel some tension.
> >> But that is quite another story.
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >> Charles Claessens
> >> member Verband Baubiologie
> >> www.milieuziektes.nl
> >> www.milieuziektes.be
> >> www.hetbitje.nl
> >> checked by Norton
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@>
> >> To: <[hidden email]>
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:21 PM
> >> Subject: [eSens] Re: Be wary about EMF protection devices
> >>
> >>
> >> > Okey thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Yes now I see, there seem to be a lotta products called "Tachyon"...
> >> >
> >> > Mine is from Albat "house energy ball":
> >> > http://www.albat.nl/uk/index.html
> >> >
> >> > Albat is a Dutch company I think.
> >> >
> >> > I feel a big difference after resetting it, it was Charles who said Tachyon needed resetting, but maybe not all Tachyons need resetting...
> >> >
> >> > My bad symptoms got worse every year I thought, well why don't we test the Tachyon ball again! So for me it's clear now that it kept on emitting more bad vibes...
> >> >
> >> > Stephen.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Resetting the Tachyon is already 6 months on my list, after reading
> >> >> > Charles recommendations that you should reset Tachyon energy (like stones
> >> >> > with the purple plate for instance)
> >> >>
> >> >> I was under the impression that "true" tachyon devices didn't require
> >> >> resetting/cleansing. I don't think they absorb negative energy, but
> >> >> merely act as antennae for tachyon energy (?)
> >> >>
> >> >> > I think only Marc here uses Tachyon. Marc also gets more energy (Tachyon
> >> >> > definitely does give more energy!), but he mentioned that his ES symptoms
> >> >> > got worse with Tachyon...
> >> >>
> >> >> Searching the archives, you should find that there have been a couple
> >> >> people here reporting positive reports with Tachyon (Ole, and therewas
> >> >> someone else named "Perla" or something like that).
> >> >>
> >> >> Personally, I find that tachyon is like most things for me -- beneficial
> >> >> in very small amounts, and causes adverse side effects in the amounts
> >> >> recommended by the manufacturer.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, I've tried tachyon products from 3 different manufacturers, and
> >> >> there is certainly a difference in the effects you get from each
> >> >> manufacturer, but also differences from different materials tachyonized
> >> >> by the same manufacturer.
> >> >>
> >> >> And personally, the best item for me is also one of the cheapest --
> >> >> the cotton wristbands from Advanced Tachyon Technologies. Although
> >> >> lately I have been experimenting with a "donut" from Materia
> >> >> Tachyon Incognita which seemed good for short durations. But both
> >> >> of these items seem to be better used AWAY from EMF sources, at
> >> >> least for me.
> >> >>
> >> >> Marc
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: Perla/Ellen

stephen_vandevijvere
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About Tachyon and Perla having good results with it (4 years ago),

I've e-mailed her to give me an update, she:

-still uses Tachyon as a daily companion (TLC bars + silica disks)
-she got mainly better thanks to a Dutch tachyon energy healing therapist
-she hasn't had ES in a couple of years now

So somebody who actually got much better, sometimes I kinda need a story like that ;-)

gr,
Stephen.


--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

>
> > Resetting the Tachyon is already 6 months on my list, after reading
> > Charles recommendations that you should reset Tachyon energy (like stones
> > with the purple plate for instance)
>
> I was under the impression that "true" tachyon devices didn't require
> resetting/cleansing. I don't think they absorb negative energy, but
> merely act as antennae for tachyon energy (?)
>
> > I think only Marc here uses Tachyon. Marc also gets more energy (Tachyon
> > definitely does give more energy!), but he mentioned that his ES symptoms
> > got worse with Tachyon...
>
> Searching the archives, you should find that there have been a couple
> people here reporting positive reports with Tachyon (Ole, and there was
> someone else named "Perla" or something like that).
>
> Personally, I find that tachyon is like most things for me -- beneficial
> in very small amounts, and causes adverse side effects in the amounts
> recommended by the manufacturer.
>
> Also, I've tried tachyon products from 3 different manufacturers, and
> there is certainly a difference in the effects you get from each
> manufacturer, but also differences from different materials tachyonized
> by the same manufacturer.
>
> And personally, the best item for me is also one of the cheapest --
> the cotton wristbands from Advanced Tachyon Technologies. Although
> lately I have been experimenting with a "donut" from Materia
> Tachyon Incognita which seemed good for short durations. But both
> of these items seem to be better used AWAY from EMF sources, at
> least for me.
>
> Marc
>

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Re: Perla/Ellen

Marc Martin
Administrator
> About Tachyon and Perla having good results with it (4 years ago),
>
> I've e-mailed her to give me an update, she:
>
> -still uses Tachyon as a daily companion (TLC bars + silica disks)
> -she got mainly better thanks to a Dutch tachyon energy healing therapist
> -she hasn't had ES in a couple of years now
>
> So somebody who actually got much better, sometimes I kinda need a story
> like that ;-)

Thanks for that -- I also know that former eSens member "Ed from the Netherlands"
eliminated his ES years ago via Alpha Lipoic Acid using the Cutler protocol.

Marc

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Re: Perla/Ellen

stephen_vandevijvere
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There aren't many Tachyon fans here,

As mentioned before my Albat Tachyon ball lowers my ES, but it's no solution for me because it's no good for my knees!

I did find another ES-er whose ES got better with Tachyon-cells from Albat, thought I should mention it... It's on a Dutch petition site:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/stralingsrisicos2008/signatures?page=11

By the way you can sign that petition if you think less emf is a good thing! It's in Dutch so you may not understand everything, but you can take my word for it that it's against emf that you're signing!:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/stralingsrisicos2008/
("woonplaats" is the city/country where you live)
("beroep" is profession)

Stephen.


--- In [hidden email], "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote:

>
> About Tachyon and Perla having good results with it (4 years ago),
>
> I've e-mailed her to give me an update, she:
>
> -still uses Tachyon as a daily companion (TLC bars + silica disks)
> -she got mainly better thanks to a Dutch tachyon energy healing therapist
> -she hasn't had ES in a couple of years now
>
> So somebody who actually got much better, sometimes I kinda need a story like that ;-)
>
> gr,
> Stephen.
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> >
> > > Resetting the Tachyon is already 6 months on my list, after reading
> > > Charles recommendations that you should reset Tachyon energy (like stones
> > > with the purple plate for instance)
> >
> > I was under the impression that "true" tachyon devices didn't require
> > resetting/cleansing.  I don't think they absorb negative energy, but
> > merely act as antennae for tachyon energy (?)
> >
> > > I think only Marc here uses Tachyon. Marc also gets more energy (Tachyon
> > > definitely does give more energy!), but he mentioned that his ES symptoms
> > > got worse with Tachyon...
> >
> > Searching the archives, you should find that there have been a couple
> > people here reporting positive reports with Tachyon (Ole, and there was
> > someone else named "Perla" or something like that).
> >
> > Personally, I find that tachyon is like most things for me -- beneficial
> > in very small amounts, and causes adverse side effects in the amounts
> > recommended by the manufacturer.
> >
> > Also, I've tried tachyon products from 3 different manufacturers, and
> > there is certainly a difference in the effects you get from each
> > manufacturer, but also differences from different materials tachyonized
> > by the same manufacturer.
> >
> > And personally, the best item for me is also one of the cheapest --
> > the cotton wristbands from Advanced Tachyon Technologies.  Although
> > lately I have been experimenting with a "donut" from Materia
> > Tachyon Incognita which seemed good for short durations.  But both
> > of these items seem to be better used AWAY from EMF sources, at
> > least for me.
> >
> > Marc
> >
>


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Re: Perla/Ellen

Marc Martin
Administrator
> There aren't many Tachyon fans here,
>
> As mentioned before my Albat Tachyon ball lowers my ES, but it's no
> solution for me because it's no good for my knees!

Do you have a link to this Albat Tachyon ball that lowers your ES?

I've had mixed experiences with "tachyon" products.  There are
several different manufacturers who use the term "tachyon", and each
manufacturer usually has at least 10 different products.  About the
only thing I really like to use are the cotton tachyon wristbands
from Advanced Tachyon Technologies, but I do NOT use these for
ES, as they actually make my ES worse!  However, they are good
for pain relief, back aches, and stamina.  So I tend to use them
only when I'm away from major sources of EMF.

Marc
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Re: Perla/Ellen

charles-4
I do have some Albat Tachyon products here and tested them on ES people, with no result.
They can be used for other means, but not ES.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Marc Martin
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Perla/Ellen


  > There aren't many Tachyon fans here,
  >
  > As mentioned before my Albat Tachyon ball lowers my ES, but it's no
  > solution for me because it's no good for my knees!

  Do you have a link to this Albat Tachyon ball that lowers your ES?

  I've had mixed experiences with "tachyon" products.  There are
  several different manufacturers who use the term "tachyon", and each
  manufacturer usually has at least 10 different products.  About the
  only thing I really like to use are the cotton tachyon wristbands
  from Advanced Tachyon Technologies, but I do NOT use these for
  ES, as they actually make my ES worse!  However, they are good
  for pain relief, back aches, and stamina.  So I tend to use them
  only when I'm away from major sources of EMF.

  Marc


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  Yahoo! Groups Links





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Re: Perla/Ellen

stephen_vandevijvere
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http://www.albat.nl/uk/ontstoring-house-kogels.html

I know 2 persons personally that have them in their homes and they love it and don't have side effects. But they're quite healthy to begin with ;-)

Stephen.




--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

>
> > There aren't many Tachyon fans here,
> >
> > As mentioned before my Albat Tachyon ball lowers my ES, but it's no
> > solution for me because it's no good for my knees!
>
> Do you have a link to this Albat Tachyon ball that lowers your ES?
>
> I've had mixed experiences with "tachyon" products.  There are
> several different manufacturers who use the term "tachyon", and each
> manufacturer usually has at least 10 different products.  About the
> only thing I really like to use are the cotton tachyon wristbands
> from Advanced Tachyon Technologies, but I do NOT use these for
> ES, as they actually make my ES worse!  However, they are good
> for pain relief, back aches, and stamina.  So I tend to use them
> only when I'm away from major sources of EMF.
>
> Marc
>


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Re: Be wary about EMF protection devices

pierce
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I bought one of the mini Q-links last Summer... waste of money..  
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