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Laurie Corbeil
I am in Nanaimo, B.C. Canada. I would like to know if there are any home or personal shielding devices available. Or, is the shielding fabric and paint and metal the only way to shield oneself? Has anyone tried the device called RayGuard? Getting desperate here. The Smart Grid has not been turned on fully yet, as far as my  meter indicates. I am extremely worried that when they enable the WiMax system, I will be finished off. Already wifi instantly renders me braindead and brings on a vicious headache that starts in my eyes. Exhaustion ensues and depressive thoughts follow. I am MCS, as well.

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Marc Martin
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On March 21, jinglepots <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I am in Nanaimo, B.C. Canada. I would like to know if there are any home
> or personal shielding devices available.

There are lots of home/personal EMF shielding devices available -- more
than hundred different ones, I'd say!

However, these are like many things, hit & miss for people with ES.  For
some, a certain product may produce really good results, while another
person may experience no benefit with the same product -- or even
feel worse!

I just did a search on RayGuard and didn't see many reports on it here.
I'm thinking that was the company that handed out free devices to
interested people on this group many years ago, but maybe that was
a different company?  (either way, that one didn't seem like it
helped anyone)

For the Home, I've had good luck with the "Quantum Home" from
www.quantumproducts.com, and I've seen a few others report
benefits from these (or the stronger "Quantum Pro").  There
are also a few other things you could try that some people have
benefited from -- Earthcalm products, Mega-Chi pendant, stuff
from Advanced Tachyon Technologies, etc.  You just need to
try some out and see if they help you out...

Marc
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Marc Martin
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On March 21, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I just did a search on RayGuard and didn't see many reports on it here.
> I'm thinking that was the company that handed out free devices to
> interested people on this group many years ago, but maybe that was
> a different company?  (either way, that one didn't seem like it
> helped anyone)

Oh wait, it was "RayFence" that did the giveaway here, not "RayGuard".
So I have no experience with RayGuard, and only see one other
report on it here, and that one didn't seem like a recommendation.

Marc
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Aimee-2
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Hello,
as an addition to Marc's post....... I have dealt with Earthcalm, and I know they will refund if you can't adjust or whatever.   I don't know about any others.  I felt it important to mention because of the cost of these products.  Also, I have ordered things from emfblues.com in the past.  They seem to mention Smart Meters in some of their products.
 
BTW, I am not in anyway a spokesperson with any company.  :) just saying
 
have a great day
Aimee


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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Any Proven Shielding Devices?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, March 21, 2013, 12:55 PM


On March 21, jinglepots <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I am in Nanaimo, B.C. Canada. I would like to know if there are any home
> or personal shielding devices available.

There are lots of home/personal EMF shielding devices available -- more
than hundred different ones, I'd say!

However, these are like many things, hit & miss for people with ES.  For
some, a certain product may produce really good results, while another
person may experience no benefit with the same product -- or even
feel worse!

I just did a search on RayGuard and didn't see many reports on it here.
I'm thinking that was the company that handed out free devices to
interested people on this group many years ago, but maybe that was
a different company?  (either way, that one didn't seem like it
helped anyone)

For the Home, I've had good luck with the "Quantum Home" from
www.quantumproducts.com, and I've seen a few others report
benefits from these (or the stronger "Quantum Pro").  There
are also a few other things you could try that some people have
benefited from -- Earthcalm products, Mega-Chi pendant, stuff
from Advanced Tachyon Technologies, etc.  You just need to
try some out and see if they help you out...

Marc


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Laurie Corbeil
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Thank-you for the info Marc.
I just got back from a wonderful drive into the country where the cell tower signals do not reach. For the first time in years I felt amazingly alive! I have not been that far out for years. It was absolutely wonderful! I could breathe freely and think clearly. It was such an encouraging event. My 81 year old mom and I live together. I work still, in a relatively safe environment, but am still effected by emf. I shut off all the wireless stuff, except the security system, and I can get through the day. I am tired, but I get it done.
Anyway, I hope to be able to get out in the country and escape these emissions. The big worry is the smart grid, which I am certain is not fully operational. If I cannot find a house shield or personal shield, I fear the worst.
Please pass on any info that you may discover as to shielding.
Take care,
Sincerely,
Laurie
 

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 From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:03:26 PM
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On March 21, Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> wrote:
> I just did a search on RayGuard and didn't see many reports on it here.
> I'm thinking that was the company that handed out free devices to
> interested people on this group many years ago, but maybe that was
> a different company?  (either way, that one didn't seem like it
> helped anyone)

Oh wait, it was "RayFence" that did the giveaway here, not "RayGuard".
So I have no experience with RayGuard, and only see one other
report on it here, and that one didn't seem like a recommendation.

Marc
   
         

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Laurie Corbeil
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Hi Aimee,
Thanks so much for your input. I have looked at the website at Earthcalm. As you say....money is always a consideration. I have already shelled out several hundred here and there. I appreciate the money-back guarantee, for sure!
A friend of mine is currently trying the house shield from Safe Connect Plus. We both tried the pendant and no results. However, my friend borrowed the house shield from a friend and felt a noticeable difference. Another friend of mine borrowed the  house shield and also said she felt much better. I am going to try this device myself. I will send in the results after I try it.
We do not have a fully operational digital power grid here yet, so, I wonder if there can be protection.
Anyway, I will keep this short. Thanks for the input.
Sincerely,
Laurie
 

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 From: Aimee <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:25:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Any Proven Shielding Devices?
 
   
 
Hello, as an addition to Marc's post....... I have dealt with Earthcalm, and I know they will refund if you can't adjust or whatever.   I don't know about any others.  I felt it important to mention because of the cost of these products.  Also, I have ordered things from emfblues.com in the past.  They seem to mention Smart Meters in some of their products.    BTW, I am not in anyway a spokesperson with any company.  :) just saying   have a great day Aimee  --- On Thu, 3/21/13, Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> wrote:  From: Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Any Proven Shielding Devices? To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 21, 2013, 12:55 PM  On March 21, jinglepots <mailto:jinglepots%40yahoo.com> wrote: > I am in Nanaimo, B.C. Canada. I would like to know if there are any home  > or personal shielding devices available.   There are lots of home/personal EMF shielding devices available --
 more than hundred different ones, I'd say!  However, these are like many things, hit & miss for people with ES.  For  some, a certain product may produce really good results, while another person may experience no benefit with the same product -- or even  feel worse!  I just did a search on RayGuard and didn't see many reports on it here. I'm thinking that was the company that handed out free devices to interested people on this group many years ago, but maybe that was a different company?  (either way, that one didn't seem like it  helped anyone)  For the Home, I've had good luck with the "Quantum Home" from  www.quantumproducts.com, and I've seen a few others report benefits from these (or the stronger "Quantum Pro").  There are also a few other things you could try that some people have benefited from -- Earthcalm products, Mega-Chi pendant, stuff from Advanced Tachyon Technologies, etc.  You just need to try some out and see if they help you
 out...  Marc   ------------------------------------  Yahoo! Groups Links  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]    
         

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Aimee-2
You're welcome Laurie.  I'm in the east Kootenay and so far I have been able to keep smart meters away from my house.  Have you heard of citizensforsafetechnology.com?  Please check it out.
best wishes
Aimee

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From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Any Proven Shielding Devices?
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, March 21, 2013, 5:11 PM


Hi Aimee,
Thanks so much for your input. I have looked at the website at Earthcalm. As you say....money is always a consideration. I have already shelled out several hundred here and there. I appreciate the money-back guarantee, for sure!
A friend of mine is currently trying the house shield from Safe Connect Plus. We both tried the pendant and no results. However, my friend borrowed the house shield from a friend and felt a noticeable difference. Another friend of mine borrowed the  house shield and also said she felt much better. I am going to try this device myself. I will send in the results after I try it.
We do not have a fully operational digital power grid here yet, so, I wonder if there can be protection.
Anyway, I will keep this short. Thanks for the input.
Sincerely,
Laurie


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From: Aimee <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:25:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Any Proven Shielding Devices?
 
  

Hello, as an addition to Marc's post....... I have dealt with Earthcalm, and I know they will refund if you can't adjust or whatever.   I don't know about any others.  I felt it important to mention because of the cost of these products.  Also, I have ordered things from emfblues.com in the past.  They seem to mention Smart Meters in some of their products.    BTW, I am not in anyway a spokesperson with any company.  :) just saying   have a great day Aimee  --- On Thu, 3/21/13, Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> wrote:  From: Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Any Proven Shielding Devices? To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 21, 2013, 12:55 PM  On March 21, jinglepots <mailto:jinglepots%40yahoo.com> wrote: > I am in Nanaimo, B.C. Canada. I would like to know if there are any home  > or personal shielding devices available.   There are lots of home/personal EMF shielding devices
 available --
more than hundred different ones, I'd say!  However, these are like many things, hit & miss for people with ES.  For  some, a certain product may produce really good results, while another person may experience no benefit with the same product -- or even  feel worse!  I just did a search on RayGuard and didn't see many reports on it here. I'm thinking that was the company that handed out free devices to interested people on this group many years ago, but maybe that was a different company?  (either way, that one didn't seem like it  helped anyone)  For the Home, I've had good luck with the "Quantum Home" from  www.quantumproducts.com, and I've seen a few others report benefits from these (or the stronger "Quantum Pro").  There are also a few other things you could try that some people have benefited from -- Earthcalm products, Mega-Chi pendant, stuff from Advanced Tachyon Technologies, etc.  You just need to try some out and see if they help
 you
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Laurie Corbeil
Hi again,
Yes, I often read their info.
Do you know if the entire grid is operative anywhere in B.C.? I have heard that Hydro has not turned the whole thing on here yet, in Nanaimo. Being that everything I hear about the fully operational grid is horrendous, I would really appreciate knowing when they will turn it on here. Either get out of town, or, hopefully be shielded when it is turned on.
Laurie
 

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 From: Aimee <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:27:53 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Any Proven Shielding Devices?
 
 
   
 
You're welcome Laurie.  I'm in the east Kootenay and so far I have been able to keep smart meters away from my house.  Have you heard of citizensforsafetechnology.com?  Please check it out.
best wishes
Aimee

--- On Thu, 3/21/13, Laurie Corbeil <mailto:jinglepots%40yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Laurie Corbeil <mailto:jinglepots%40yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Any Proven Shielding Devices?
To: "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.commailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 21, 2013, 5:11 PM

Hi Aimee,
Thanks so much for your input. I have looked at the website at Earthcalm. As you say....money is always a consideration. I have already shelled out several hundred here and there. I appreciate the money-back guarantee, for sure!
A friend of mine is currently trying the house shield from Safe Connect Plus. We both tried the pendant and no results. However, my friend borrowed the house shield from a friend and felt a noticeable difference. Another friend of mine borrowed the  house shield and also said she felt much better. I am going to try this device myself. I will send in the results after I try it.
We do not have a fully operational digital power grid here yet, so, I wonder if there can be protection.
Anyway, I will keep this short. Thanks for the input.
Sincerely,
Laurie

________________________________
From: Aimee <mailto:ohkanaduh%40yahoo.com>
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:25:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Any Proven Shielding Devices?
 
  

Hello, as an addition to Marc's post....... I have dealt with Earthcalm, and I know they will refund if you can't adjust or whatever.   I don't know about any others.  I felt it important to mention because of the cost of these products.  Also, I have ordered things from emfblues.com in the past.  They seem to mention Smart Meters in some of their products.    BTW, I am not in anyway a spokesperson with any company.  :) just saying   have a great day Aimee  --- On Thu, 3/21/13, Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> wrote:  From: Marc Martin <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Any Proven Shielding Devices? To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 21, 2013, 12:55 PM  On March 21, jinglepots <mailto:jinglepots%40yahoo.com> wrote: > I am in Nanaimo, B.C. Canada. I would like to know if there are any home  > or personal shielding devices available.   There are lots of home/personal EMF shielding devices
available --
more than hundred different ones, I'd say!  However, these are like many things, hit & miss for people with ES.  For  some, a certain product may produce really good results, while another person may experience no benefit with the same product -- or even  feel worse!  I just did a search on RayGuard and didn't see many reports on it here. I'm thinking that was the company that handed out free devices to interested people on this group many years ago, but maybe that was a different company?  (either way, that one didn't seem like it  helped anyone)  For the Home, I've had good luck with the "Quantum Home" from  www.quantumproducts.com, and I've seen a few others report benefits from these (or the stronger "Quantum Pro").  There are also a few other things you could try that some people have benefited from -- Earthcalm products, Mega-Chi pendant, stuff from Advanced Tachyon Technologies, etc.  You just need to try some out and see if they help
you
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Hud J O Ramelan
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I am in Nanaimo, B.C. Canada. I would like to know if there are any home or personal shielding devices available. Or, is the shielding fabric
and paint and metal the only way to shield oneself? Has anyone tried the device called RayGuard? Getting desperate here. The Smart Grid has not
been turned on fully yet, as far as my  meter indicates. I am extremely
worried that when they enable the WiMax system, I will be finished off.
Already wifi instantly renders me braindead and brings on a vicious
headache that starts in my eyes. Exhaustion ensues and depressive
thoughts follow. I am MCS, as well.


 

Hi there.  I'm in Oakville, Ontario, Canada but I wish I was on Vancouver Island!  Gee, I sure miss living in Saanich/Victoria and Saltspring Island.  How are things in the land of Diana Krall, Pulp & Paper Mills and Petroglyph Park(I won't mention the Na---mo bars)?

Ditto on the headache and trouble focusing and thinking clearly.  Whenever I get hit with wifi it is very much the same every time:  first I feel vertigo, dizziness / feeling of losing my balance; then an unpleasant behind-the-eyes headache/neck/jaw-ache that is similar to a sinus headache; also a sensation of fullnes in the ears/sinus congestion; then my heart starts to beat very rapidly; I feel intense anxiety and foreboding/dysphoria; then fatigue, burnout poopout; etc.  I am also sensitive to chemicals--but I'm doing better with chems these days compared to earlier and compared to wireless/electro pollution.


  This is the End...      


  --Hud
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cinciripini
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My warning:  avoid these kind of stuffs !  I know that when a guyis  in a desparate conditions everything that is referred as valid , is good !  But, I never seen any scientific and proved documentations (I mean repoered in peer reviewed scientific papers)  !

I suggest, first of all,  to try to indentify which is the enemy (which frequencies are EMFs) and to buy texitles and/or paint that are certified to filter/block THESE frequencies.  They are an help.

Alternative ?  to escape !

Giorgio

--- In [hidden email], "jinglepots" <jinglepots@...> wrote:
>
> I am in Nanaimo, B.C. Canada. I would like to know if there are any home or personal shielding devices available. Or, is the shielding fabric and paint and metal the only way to shield oneself? Has anyone tried the device called RayGuard? Getting desperate here. The Smart Grid has not been turned on fully yet, as far as my  meter indicates. I am extremely worried that when they enable the WiMax system, I will be finished off. Already wifi instantly renders me braindead and brings on a vicious headache that starts in my eyes. Exhaustion ensues and depressive thoughts follow. I am MCS, as well.
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Laurie Corbeil
Hi Giorgio,
Thank-you very much for the information. I have been told this very information by a lady here in the west who is very electrosensitive. She only feels that the shielding fabric and paint works. It make sense not to waste a lot of money. I will likely find myself purchasing fabric or a canopy made out of the Swiss Shield fabric so I can jump into bed the minute I get home. I also understand that the floor must be shielded. There will need to be the proper shielding material under the bed, too.
 
Well, I have to get ready for work.
 
Have a good day!
 
Sincerely,
 
Laurie
 
 
 

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 From: giorgio cinciripini <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:37:22 AM
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My warning:  avoid these kind of stuffs !  I know that when a guyis  in a desparate conditions everything that is referred as valid , is good !  But, I never seen any scientific and proved documentations (I mean repoered in peer reviewed scientific papers)  !

I suggest, first of all,  to try to indentify which is the enemy (which frequencies are EMFs) and to buy texitles and/or paint that are certified to filter/block THESE frequencies.  They are an help.

Alternative ?  to escape !

Giorgio

--- In mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com, "jinglepots" <jinglepots@...> wrote:
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> I am in Nanaimo, B.C. Canada. I would like to know if there are any home or personal shielding devices available. Or, is the shielding fabric and paint and metal the only way to shield oneself? Has anyone tried the device called RayGuard? Getting desperate here. The Smart Grid has not been turned on fully yet, as far as my  meter indicates. I am extremely worried that when they enable the WiMax system, I will be finished off. Already wifi instantly renders me braindead and brings on a vicious headache that starts in my eyes. Exhaustion ensues and depressive thoughts follow. I am MCS, as well.
>

   
         

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Marc Martin
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On March 22, Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thank-you very much for the information. I have been told this very information
> by a lady here in the west who is very electrosensitive. She only feels that the
> shielding fabric and paint works. It make sense not to waste a lot of money.

This is usually the opinion of people who don't want to try a lot of things,
or cannot afford to try a lot of things.  However, these sorts of devices
can be very, very helpful.  Without them, I would have had to have moved
many years ago, and would not be able to work at my present job.  

On the other hand, we've had plenty of people who have reported being
WORSE after applying shielded paint (and it's a pain to have to remove).
At least if you have a bad reaction to shielded fabric, you can easily stop
wearing it...

Marc
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fantasticsam131-2
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Quantum Power Conditioners are great.  I have three or four and another on the way.  Don't know why they seem to work so well compared to other products but they do.  I have two whole house EMF reducers.  Lots of ferrites around cords and cables.  About 20 or so Stetzer filters.  I don't know how well the Quantum Power Conditioners would work without these things as well.  But I can say that it is the quantum power conditioner plugged into an outlet closest to my bed that lets me sleep.  Thanks Marc for turning us on to this product.

 http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html



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Marc Martin
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Yes, I must say that I agree with this... after having tried all sorts
of filtering power strips and parallel filters, there is nothing
quite like a Quantum power conditioner (although I'm not sure
what exactly they are selling these days, as I bought all of mine
10 years ago).  

As for getting to sleep, I find that if I have my 3-outlet version
plugged in all night near my bed, I may be a bit too hyper to
sleep, so I have it on a timer (15-min on/15-min off).  I also
bring the 3-outlet version with me on trips for Hotel rooms.

Also, I think that several of the 3-outlet versions spread throughout
the house might be just as good (or better) than the much more
expensive Quantum Home (although I use both).

Marc



On March 22, AliasSmithand Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Quantum Power Conditioners are great.  I have three or four and another on the way.  Don't know why they seem to work so well compared to other products but they do.  I have two whole house EMF reducers.  Lots of ferrites around cords and cables.  About 20 or so Stetzer filters.  I don't know how well the Quantum Power Conditioners would work without these things as well.  But I can say that it is the quantum power conditioner plugged into an outlet closest to my bed that lets me sleep.  Thanks Marc for turning us on to this product.
>
>  http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html
 
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Laurie Corbeil
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Hi Marc,
Thank-you again for your help. I don't feel so isolated and misunderstood anymore. This is an awesome group! I never realized how important it could be for me to communicate with others in the same boat. You all know what it feels like to walk a mile in EHS shoes. Not very pleasant.
Sincere thanks,
Laurie
 

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On March 22, Laurie Corbeil <mailto:jinglepots%40yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thank-you very much for the information. I have been told this very information
> by a lady here in the west who is very electrosensitive. She only feels that the
> shielding fabric and paint works. It make sense not to waste a lot of money.

This is usually the opinion of people who don't want to try a lot of things,
or cannot afford to try a lot of things.  However, these sorts of devices
can be very, very helpful.  Without them, I would have had to have moved
many years ago, and would not be able to work at my present job.

On the other hand, we've had plenty of people who have reported being
WORSE after applying shielded paint (and it's a pain to have to remove).
At least if you have a bad reaction to shielded fabric, you can easily stop
wearing it...

Marc
   
         

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fantasticsam131-2
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Update:  Do not buy quantum power products from the link I posted below.  I ordered another Quantum Power Conditioner 7 outlet from them and it arrived today.  They sent me a cheap Belkim Surge Protector you can get on Amazon.com for 15 bucks.  I paid for it with paypal and hopefully I can put it in dispute and get my money back from them.  I also sent them a nasty email demanding that they send me the product that I paid for, or else!!!

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> Quantum Power Conditioners are great.  I have three or four and another on the way.  Don't know why they seem to work so well compared to other products but they do.  I have two whole house EMF reducers.  Lots of ferrites around cords and cables.  About 20 or so Stetzer filters.  I don't know how well the Quantum Power Conditioners would work without these things as well.  But I can say that it is the quantum power conditioner plugged into an outlet closest to my bed that lets me sleep.  Thanks Marc for turning us on to this product.
>
>  http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html
>
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Re: Any Proven Shielding Devices?

Marc Martin
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On March 25, fantasticsam131 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Update:  Do not buy quantum power products from the link I posted below.
> I ordered another Quantum Power Conditioner 7 outlet from them and it arrived today.  
> They sent me a cheap Belkim Surge Protector you can get on Amazon.com for 15 bucks.

I think you fail to understand how the Quantum Power Conditioners
are actually created.  Back when I purchased mine, they were "Power
Sentry" power strips, and yes, they did look exactly like the Power
Sentry power strips sold in my local hardware store.  And in fact,
out of curiosity, I purchased the the one in the hardware store
to compare.

And interestingly, even though these two power strips appeared
to be identical, the one purchased through the hardware store
was agitating and provoked new ES symptoms.  While the one
purchased through Quantum Products reduced my ES symptoms.

So perhaps you should actually test yours out before filing
a complaint...

Marc
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That is interesting.  And I did get an email back from Margi Wilson, the owner.  I told her that if I wanted buy the Belkin model BE108200-06 that I'd buy one from another website where they were selling for 15.99. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812107193

According to this website, "EMI/RFI Reduction
 The Belkin BE108200-06 can filter EMI/RFI noise up to 58 dB reduction for minimum distortion and attenuation"

Nothing that Margi Wilson said to sounded like they took this existing product and did anything to it.  You are saying that if I did buy the one at this website that it would somehow be different from the one sent to me.  I will ask Margi Wilson about this to see if I can get an answer.  I was very rude in my email.  she might not answer.  But I'll see.


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

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> On March 25, fantasticsam131 <quaixemen@...> wrote:
> > Update:  Do not buy quantum power products from the link I posted below.
> > I ordered another Quantum Power Conditioner 7 outlet from them and it arrived today.  
> > They sent me a cheap Belkim Surge Protector you can get on Amazon.com for 15 bucks.
>
> I think you fail to understand how the Quantum Power Conditioners
> are actually created.  Back when I purchased mine, they were "Power
> Sentry" power strips, and yes, they did look exactly like the Power
> Sentry power strips sold in my local hardware store.  And in fact,
> out of curiosity, I purchased the the one in the hardware store
> to compare.
>
> And interestingly, even though these two power strips appeared
> to be identical, the one purchased through the hardware store
> was agitating and provoked new ES symptoms.  While the one
> purchased through Quantum Products reduced my ES symptoms.
>
> So perhaps you should actually test yours out before filing
> a complaint...
>
> Marc
>


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Re: Any Proven Shielding Devices?

Marc Martin
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On March 25, fantasticsam131 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> You are saying that if I did buy the one at this website that it would
> somehow be different from the one sent to me.  

Yes, that it what I'm saying.  However, like I said, I haven't bought
a Quantum power strip in years, but the ones I did buy had a vastly
different effect on me that the identical one in the hardware store.

And I am assuming (right or wrong) that nothing has changed
since then.  Except that they are using a different power strip
to start with.

But they really should have that sort of information on their
website (which I've always thought was woefully inadequate)

Marc
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Re: Any Proven Shielding Devices?

Marc Martin
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On March 25, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On March 25, fantasticsam131 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > You are saying that if I did buy the one at this website that it would
> > somehow be different from the one sent to me.  

Also, didn't you say that you were already using a Quantum
power conditioner?   I assume it must be different than the
one you just got?  (but I also assume that it must be a
standard power strip that you can buy somewhere else)

Marc
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