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What got me confused was that the one in the picture on the website looked like the ones I'd purchased before. But the one that came in the mail looked very different. Also when I called the number on that website I got a recorded message from someone selling magicjack. I thought I was dealing with some unscrupulous person who was switching products on me. But then I got an email from someone named Margi Wilson and when I googled her I see she is the owner of quantum products. So I figure it is probably legit and am going to keep it.
--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On March 25, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On March 25, fantasticsam131 <quaixemen@...> wrote: > > > You are saying that if I did buy the one at this website that it would > > > somehow be different from the one sent to me. > > Also, didn't you say that you were already using a Quantum > power conditioner? I assume it must be different than the > one you just got? (but I also assume that it must be a > standard power strip that you can buy somewhere else) > > Marc > |
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Here is the response I got back from the owner of Quantum Power:
Hi Stephen, What Marc says is accurate. We used to use Power Sentry until the company went through some changes and their quality control started to go down. We have not had any problems with the Belkin yet. There is no difference between the cheaper version and the ones we sell, other than the phase coherence level is higher on the Quantum Power Conditioner. We add Coherence Technology through a material processing method to the EMI/RFI Noise Filter. Then it is tested for its effect to our specifications. The benefits have been measured to improve overall technological performance, as well as physiological and human performance. We have been in business for over 20 years and we have changed the basic surge protectors several times, always keeping a look out for better quality. We appreciate your feedback, --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On March 25, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On March 25, fantasticsam131 <quaixemen@...> wrote: > > > You are saying that if I did buy the one at this website that it would > > > somehow be different from the one sent to me. > > Also, didn't you say that you were already using a Quantum > power conditioner? I assume it must be different than the > one you just got? (but I also assume that it must be a > standard power strip that you can buy somewhere else) > > Marc > |
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On March 27, fantasticsam131 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> What Marc says is accurate. > We have not had any problems with the Belkin yet. There is no difference > between the cheaper version and the ones we sell, other than the phase > coherence level is higher on the Quantum Power Conditioner. We add Coherence >Technology through a material processing method to the EMI/RFI Noise Filter. Yes, that's what I thought... :-) The key thing about the items from Quantum Products is the addition of "quantum coherence", which is what is making you feel better, and absent from what they sell in the hardware store. They must have several different ways to do this, because they have their own in-house designed circuitry that does this (e.g. Quantum Home, Pro), but they also can do some sort of "material treatment" to existing products with circuit boards. In this case, the circuit board is the surge protector on the power strip. And then there is their "Quantum Byte" software, which I assume must be done via radionics (although I really have no idea). They all seem to produce the same sort of effect, just with a different strength and radius of effectiveness. And the same technology is used by other companies -- mostly in high-end audio and video noise reduction products -- I think Quantum Products manufactures or licenses the same exact technology to the "Clarity Pro" and "Clarity Mains" products sold in the UK, and also the "Comfort Clock" sold by AdvancedLiving.com. Also, there is similar (knock-off?) technology sold by Norquist (which they call Quantum Resonance Technology - QRT), and Kemp (the Quantum Approach plug). Plus GlobalCoherence.com is run by an ex-Quantum distributor, and he claims the same sort of effects with his free software (although I find this to be very different than the Quantum Byte software) Marc |
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On March 27, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Also, there is similar (knock-off?) technology > sold by Norquist (which they call Quantum Resonance Technology - QRT) Oh sorry, that should have said "Nordost", not "Norquist" :-) Quantum QRT is described here, but I should note that this is a different company and not the same exact technology as that from quantumproducts.com (although presumably it is similar): http://www.quantumqrt.com/ Marc |
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Thanks for that info. I'll have to take a look at all this stuff to see what else I might try. I now have 5 of the power strips and the quantum pro. I bought the pro several years ago and didn't pay what they are charging for them these days. I recently put in a whole house emf reducer that wired directly to a breaker in the breaker box. All the circuits on the same side of the box had a really good effect. But the circuits on the other side of the box seemed to be a little worse. So I bought another emf reducer which plugs into the dryer outlet which I have located on the other side of the box to try to clean up that side of the box. Can't say that I could tell any difference. The next thing I tried was to plug the quantum pro into an outlet which is on a circuit on the other side of the box and that fixed it. Now the whole house feels really good. Oh, and another thing you might try if you haven't already. Greenwave filters are similar to stetzer filters but in my opinion they are far superior. They have a much wider range of frequencies that they remove from the lines. They have two kinds. One removes low to mid range frequencies and the other removes mid range to high frequencies. They also have some which let you plug your power strip into the filter. And they have three pronged filters that work on the ground wire. I plug one type of filter into the outlet. Then I have a short extension cord. I plug the other type of filter into the end of the extension cord. Then I plug the quantum power conditioner strip into that. You should try it. Those green wave filters are awesome. Way better than stetzer filters. However, I still have all my stetzer filters plugged in.
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On March 28, AliasSmithand Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Greenwave filters are similar to stetzer filters but in my opinion they are far superior. > They have a much wider range of frequencies that they remove from the lines. Interesting. I thought the frequency range of the Greenwaves was unknown to us here, but I guess not! And I reacted badly to the stetzer filters, and any other shunt capacitor filter except for the Quantum power strips and the Furman linear filtering strips. Marc |
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A hilarious film in which Stetzer defends its filters against "knock offs" :
http://www.stetzerelectric.com/stetzerizer-vs-greenwave-short-video-comparison/ Not much content, but their products are tested as "safe". No mention of dirty electricity above 100 kHz in the real world. The diagrams ( graphics ? what is the proper term ? ) referred to with a link by Charles within the thread "Too smart, too late" indicate clearly that there is much more dirty stuff around the 100 kHz-corner, although to be noted is that these are just a few examples, measured possibly once with one meter, and the range upto there is a bit too compressed, and on the other hand that these visualized examples are probably meant to reflect and kind of summarize an aspect of emf based upon a lot of practical experience. We are getting the impression that there is a battle going on for our money ... I can not evaluate any of the competing filters, but noticed that contrary to what is stated in this video, there is a Greenwave meter too ( now ) : http://greenwavefilters.3dcartstores.com/Greenwave-EMI-Meter_p_18.html More and more devices are marketed to supposedly help EMF-sensitive people, but one better counts on nothing and remains alert. The best testing appears to be often done with one's own sensitivity. If something works seems to depend on one's individuality and / or circumstances, golden rules and tricks are unlikely available, except then for staying away from technological "progress" as much as possible and following one's instincts. Nevertheless it is an interesting field of "knowledge". --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On March 28, AliasSmithand Jones <quaixemen@...> wrote: > > Greenwave filters are similar to stetzer filters but in my opinion they are far superior. > > They have a much wider range of frequencies that they remove from the lines. > > Interesting. I thought the frequency range of the Greenwaves was > unknown to us here, but I guess not! > > And I reacted badly to the stetzer filters, and any other shunt capacitor > filter except for the Quantum power strips and the Furman linear filtering > strips. > > Marc > |
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I've got 4 of the greenwave now with two more on the way. I think the greenwave are fantastic. But like I say, I still got about 20 or so stetzers that I continue to keep plugged in. To me there is no comparison. There are comments on the greenwave that people find aches and pains disappearing. I find this to be true. I've only had them for a week. My joints feel better.
--- In [hidden email], "ad" <arendgb@...> wrote: > > A hilarious film in which Stetzer defends its filters against "knock offs" : > http://www.stetzerelectric.com/stetzerizer-vs-greenwave-short-video-comparison/ > Not much content, but their products are tested as "safe". > No mention of dirty electricity above 100 kHz in the real world. > > The diagrams ( graphics ? what is the proper term ? ) referred to with a link by Charles within the thread "Too smart, too late" indicate clearly that there is much more dirty stuff around the 100 kHz-corner, although to be noted is that these are just a few examples, measured possibly once with one meter, and the range upto there is a bit too compressed, and on the other hand that these visualized examples are probably meant to reflect and kind of summarize an aspect of emf based upon a lot of practical experience. > > We are getting the impression that there is a battle going on for our money ... > I can not evaluate any of the competing filters, but noticed that contrary to what is stated in this video, there is a Greenwave meter too ( now ) : > http://greenwavefilters.3dcartstores.com/Greenwave-EMI-Meter_p_18.html > > More and more devices are marketed to supposedly help EMF-sensitive people, but one better counts on nothing and remains alert. > The best testing appears to be often done with one's own sensitivity. > If something works seems to depend on one's individuality and / or circumstances, golden rules and tricks are unlikely available, except then for staying away from technological "progress" as much as possible and following one's instincts. > Nevertheless it is an interesting field of "knowledge". > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@> wrote: > > > > On March 28, AliasSmithand Jones <quaixemen@> wrote: > > > Greenwave filters are similar to stetzer filters but in my opinion they are far superior. > > > They have a much wider range of frequencies that they remove from the lines. > > > > Interesting. I thought the frequency range of the Greenwaves was > > unknown to us here, but I guess not! > > > > And I reacted badly to the stetzer filters, and any other shunt capacitor > > filter except for the Quantum power strips and the Furman linear filtering > > strips. > > > > Marc > > > |
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