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A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

Rick Billings
Hello,
 
My name is Richard, and I just joined this group.   I was invited by the moderator to introduce myself and to tell the group about my own problems with EMF and about my attempts to deal with this issue.  Well, I did recently come across something that helped me in a big way, and I guess others migtht benefit from it too.  So here is my story.
        I developed EMF sensitivity about fourteen years ago.  I moved into a top-floor apartment in Miami Beach, and my downstairs neighbor was a ham radio operator.  He had his radio antenna on the building roof, about eight feet away from my head as I sat at my desk.  I was a college student then, and I sat at that desk all evening long.  And my neighbor talked on his radio all evening long, about five or six evenings a week.        
        For nearly three months, I hardly slept.  My head would not shut down and let  me sleep at night.  I thought I was going insane.  I knew nothing then about the effects of radio frequency on the human brain.  After about three months, I did learn what was causing the problem, and the landlord made my neighbor move his antenna.  But the damage was already done. I had become highly sensitized, not only to radio frequency, but to EMF as well.
        Over the years I have tried many, many different devices and techniques for dealing with this problem.  Most of the man-made devices were too strong for me.  I do still use one of those devices, which I can tolerate, but it only provides me with limited protection. (I do not know whether I am allowed to mention the name.)  Of the natural products I have tried, black tourmaline does help me quite a bit, but I can only use it for a few hours at a time.  At my last home (in Hollywood, south Florida), I did find a way to get a really good night's sleep.  I was living in an oceanfront building with a one-hundred-foot strip of natural, state-owned dune land between the property and the beach.  I built myself a sleep shelter out of natural, non-toxic materials (tents are appallingly toxic), and I slept out in the dune, close to the beach.  I was well away from any source of electricity and electro-magnetic fields, and I surrounded my
 sleeping cot with a screen of radio frequency screening cloth. And I slept like I hadn't done since I was a child.   
        I realize that most people are not in a position to do as I was doing there, and I myself have lost that ideal sleeping environment.  Recently, due to circumstances beyond my control, I lost my home in Hollywood and was obliged to move into an apartment in Miami where the electrical and electro-magnetic readings are truly frightening.  The magnetic field is a steady ten milligauss, while the electrical field fluctuates between one thousand and fifteen hundred millivolts.  And I cannot do anything to change those numbers.  Anybody who knows what those numbers mean will think me crazy for being in such a place.  Believe me, I had no choice.
        The black tourmaline and my man-made protection device were hopelessly inadequate in such a strong field.  I couldn't sleep at all, I started experiencing non-stop tinnitus, and my head was in a terrible mess.  I was in serious trouble. 
        In desperation, I tried an idea that had come to me recently--though I hesitate to explain just how this idea came to me.  I went to a public park near my place of work in Miami--Alice Wainright Park--and I picked up a couple of one-pound chunks of oolitic limestone.  It turns out that most of eastern Florida consists of oolitic limestone, and there are places where one can find it on the surface.  I have been keeping those rocks in my pockets all day long ever since, and I sleep with them beside me at night. (I keep them in sandwich bags because this rock is soft and crumbly, and it tends to make a mess.)  And the effects of this rock have been quite remarkable.  I can sleep soundly, with none of the awful dreams that I usually experience when sleeping in an EMF-filled environment, and I wake up with my head in good shape.
        During the daytime, I receive the same protection.  Again, because of force of circumstances, I was recently obliged to start doing a telephone sales job in Miami, and by five o'clock each day my head was in an appallingly strained and exhausted state.  But I needed that job to survive, in spite of the damage it was doing me.  The day I started carrying the oolitic limestone in my pockets, the problems disappeared.  I came out of work at five o'clock with my head as fresh as it had been at nine in the morning. 
        I realize that I must still move out of this apartment as soon as possible because the extreme electrical and electro-magnetic fields in here may well be killing off brain cells and damaging my DNA as well.  But at least the oolitic limestone is protecting my conscious brain state so that I am fully functional and I can sleep well. 
    I did have two setbacks in using this oolitic limestone.  The first one came with the start of the Olympic Games in London.  I do not own a television and I do not normally watch television.  My new landlady lent me a tiny flatscreeen television so I could watch the games.  This television is so small that one has to sit within a couple of feet of it to see anything.  I wouldn't normally dream of getting so close to such a device, but I thought the oolitic limestone would protect me.  It did not, and I had an awful, sleepless night as a result.  So no more television for me.  Whether I would have had the same result from watching a normal sized television at a normal viewing distance, I do not know.  And I do not intend to experiment. 
        Secondly, I did buy a large, one-hundred-pound block of oolitic limestone from a local stone mason.  It occurred to me that I might get even better effects from having a lot of this rock all around my apartment.  I thought that enough of the rock might protect me from things like that television.  But having that much of the rock in my bedroom caused me to have a very strange and unpleasant night--though the effects were quite different from those caused by EMF.  The next night I put that big block outside, but I did break off a ten-pound piece that I put by my bed (in addition to the two one-pound pieces that I was already using).  Even this much proved to be too much, and I had another very unpleasant night. 
        The rock must be creating some field effect of its own that does not agree with me, except in very small quatities.  So long as I use no more than the two one-pound pieces that I started with, the rock does not cause me any problems. 
        So, if anybody else is interested in trying oolitic limestone, be warned: Start out using very small quantities; and there may be things, such as television, that will cancel out any benefits. 
        How does it work?  I do not know!  Maybe the crystalline structure somehow modulates the local man-made energy field.  I am not a scientist. 
        There are different varieties of oolitic limestone.  I am using the pure, white variety, which consists of nothing but oolites.  There are varieties that include quantities of sand or clay.  These tend to be red, yellow or orange in color.  I do not have any experience with those varieties.  To verify that you do in fact have oolitic limestone, break off a corner and look at a bit of clean unweathered rock surface through a magnifying glass.  The tiny, ovoid-shaped oolites will stand out clearly. 
        You will not find this rock in a rock shop.  But you may find it at a yard carrying rock and gravel for garden, ornamental and construction purposes.  And if it is not available in other parts of the country, try contacting a rock yard in south Florida.  I guess they will ship to you, for a price.  You do not need very much, and the rock itself is very cheap.  
        I should be interested to hear if others benefit from using this stuff as I have done.  I would also like to hear if others find better ways of using it than I have.   But remember, this rock has not cured me.  It has not lessened my sensitivity to EMF in any way.  And I do not know if it is proctecting me from radio frequency, because I do not know of any significant sources of RF in this neighborhood (I myself do not use a cellphone).  But I do know that it is protecting me from the effects of EMF as nothing else ever has.  For me, that is huge.

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Ciel Carter
That was a fascinating read -- thanks! 
 
 
Ciel
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energyguy
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Hello Richard,  
 
My name is Gordon aka Flash Gordon _THE ENERGY GUY_
(http://gbiz.hypermart.net/energyguy1/)
 
 
If your open to new technology let me know & I'll send you some samples  to
see if Lifewave's Software for the Human Body is for you or not.
_Brain  Balancing Using LifeWave Y-Age Aeon Patches - YouTube_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owjw_VrXiHo&feature=relmfu)  
This protocol works great for me.
 
 
 
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Elizabeth thode

Hello Gordy,  I"d like to know why you are on this site.I've yet to see very little information from your postingsthat is even indicative of you being ES.  I don't have a problem with someone selling product who conductsthemselves with honor. I do have an issue with someone popping upon an ES support group, selling product for a health issue, that it'snot even clear you have; and the way you conducted yourself withme leaves much to be desired.  While I do accept your apology, I would still like to know why youare on a site, that is a support group for those who are ES.  Lizzie
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      Hello Richard,  

 

My name is Gordon aka Flash Gordon _THE ENERGY GUY_

(http://gbiz.hypermart.net/energyguy1/)

 

 

If your open to new technology let me know & I'll send you some samples  to

see if Lifewave's Software for the Human Body is for you or not.

_Brain  Balancing Using LifeWave Y-Age Aeon Patches - YouTube_

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owjw_VrXiHo&feature=relmfu)  

This protocol works great for me.

 

 

 

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My name is Richard, and I just joined this  group.   I was invited by the

moderator to introduce myself and to  tell the group about my own problems

with EMF and about my attempts to deal  with this issue.



   
     

   
   






       

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Snoshoe
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Interesting video. I have had brain damage a number of times, and I'm sure it also contributes to my problems. So making the halves work together more efficiently sure wouldn't hurt, because since the phenol exposure last year, I know they still aren't always quite in
sync.  

~ Snoshoe



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> Hello Richard,  
>  
> My name is Gordon aka Flash Gordon _THE ENERGY GUY_
> (http://gbiz.hypermart.net/energyguy1/)
>  
>  
> If your open to new technology let me know & I'll send you some samples  to
> see if Lifewave's Software for the Human Body is for you or not.
> _Brain  Balancing Using LifeWave Y-Age Aeon Patches - YouTube_
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owjw_VrXiHo&feature=relmfu)  
> This protocol works great for me.
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Aimee-2
You might also want to check out Body Talk?  You can do it yourself and it's free!  Just google it and a video should come up  or check youtube.

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Interesting video. I have had brain damage a number of times, and I'm sure it also contributes to my problems. So making the halves work together more efficiently sure wouldn't hurt, because since the phenol exposure last year, I know they still aren't always quite in
sync. 

~ Snoshoe



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> Hello Richard, 

> My name is Gordon aka Flash Gordon _THE ENERGY GUY_
> (http://gbiz.hypermart.net/energyguy1/)


> If your open to new technology let me know & I'll send you some samples  to
> see if Lifewave's Software for the Human Body is for you or not.
> _Brain  Balancing Using LifeWave Y-Age Aeon Patches - YouTube_
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owjw_VrXiHo&feature=relmfu
> This protocol works great for me.




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Rick Billings
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Hello Gordon,
I am really not into technology of any kind. But thank you anyway.
 
All the best,
Richard


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Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

Hello Richard, 

My name is Gordon aka Flash Gordon _THE ENERGY GUY_
(http://gbiz.hypermart.net/energyguy1/)


If your open to new technology let me know & I'll send you some samples  to
see if Lifewave's Software for the Human Body is for you or not.
_Brain  Balancing Using LifeWave Y-Age Aeon Patches - YouTube_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owjw_VrXiHo&feature=relmfu
This protocol works great for me.



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[hidden email] writes:

Hello,

My name is Richard, and I just joined this  group.  I was invited by the
moderator to introduce myself and to  tell the group about my own problems
with EMF and about my attempts to deal  with this issue.


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melissascotthasmail
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Hi Richard,

Very interesting. So far only avoidance and natural things help me. The sensitive people I know personally have only been able to benefit from man-made devices for a limited amount of time before they stopped working. What device has been consistently helping you?

I have not tried black tourmaline yet. When you use tourmaline for only a few hours is it for a certain time of day? What makes it successful and how do you know to stop using it?

Things which help me the most are fish oils and magnesium glycinate as my symptoms are primarily neurological. SmartWater (a brand of distilled electrolyte balanced water) helps my dehydration, and it seems to be the only brand which works for me. A drop of arnica by Flower Essence Services in the liter of SmartWater has decreased my pain enough to be noticeable. I haven't experimented with other arnicas so have no idea if this brand is special.


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Rick Billings
Hi Melissa,
 
You are absolutely right that avoidance is ultimately the only complete solution--that is why I slept so well at my last home in Hollywood, out in the sand dune!  When I have completed my work here at the University of Miami, I intend to move to one of the Caribbean islands.  I shall find myself a little home on the beach, well away from any sources of man-made energy.  For the time being, I do need some sort of protection, and this oolitic limestone appears to be providing me with that--though I cannot tell you how it works.  I realize that most people will not be able to escape the man-made energy environment, as I intend to do, and they will need some sort of protection.  That is why I posted my story.  But remember, I can only vouch for the protection this rock gives me against EMF.  I do not know, as I said in my story, whether it protects against radio frequency as well. 
     The man-made device I have been using, for many years now, is called an "electro-smog protector."  It is available from Werner Brandmaier at http://www.instituteoffengshui.com/.  Click on the tab "shop", and then select "personal protection."  Prices have gone up.  I bought a lot of these years ago, and then they cost $30.  Now they cost $48!  I also bought one of his whole house protectors for $200 (now they cost over $300), but that one proved too strong for me. 
     I only bother with the black tourmaline at night, when I have difficulty sleeping.  When we go to sleep, the brain waves slow down, the body temperature drops, and the whole metabolism slows down.  This means that our bodily defences are also less active, so we become more susceptible to the unnatural effects of the man-made environment.  Sometimes, when I am having trouble sleeping, I will put some black tourmaline in the pocket of my sleep shorts.  And I often seem to fall asleep quickly as a result.  But after a few hours, I often start to feel restless.  If I then take the tourmaline out of my pocket and put it well away from me, I then tend to get back into a more restful sleep. Those of us who are sensitive to the man-made environment are typically affected by a myriad of different man-made factors.  So what works on one occasion may not work at all the next time we have the same problem.  We have to try many different things. 
     You are absolutely right about the importance of fish oils, too.  But I prefer to get these oils by eating lots of fatty fish, like salmon, mackerel, and sardines--rather than using the extracted oil.  All nutrients work better in the body when absorbed with the correct co-factors.  In the case of fish oils, we can only get these by eating the whole fish.  Fresh fish is expensive, but the oil in canned fish seems to work well, and canned fish is cheap.  I know nothing about magnesium glycinate, but I do know that the fat in ordinary sour cream seems to help me in many ways.  I consume a lot of sour cream and a lot of fatty fish. The brain uses a lot of fat, but I believe that it needs animal fat, not vegetable fat--contrary to popular belief.  
     Dehydration is not a problem I suffer from, so I cannot comment on the rest of the last paragraph of your e-mail.    Also, you did not say what your "pain" was associated with.  Does this pain have something to do with your sensitivity to EMF?
     All the best,
     Richard


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Hi Richard,

Very interesting. So far only avoidance and natural things help me. The sensitive people I know personally have only been able to benefit from man-made devices for a limited amount of time before they stopped working. What device has been consistently helping you?

I have not tried black tourmaline yet. When you use tourmaline for only a few hours is it for a certain time of day? What makes it successful and how do you know to stop using it?

Things which help me the most are fish oils and magnesium glycinate as my symptoms are primarily neurological. SmartWater (a brand of distilled electrolyte balanced water) helps my dehydration, and it seems to be the only brand which works for me. A drop of arnica by Flower Essence Services in the liter of SmartWater has decreased my pain enough to be noticeable. I haven't experimented with other arnicas so have no idea if this brand is special.




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Steph Smith
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Hi Melissa 

The arnica in the smart water tip is a great idea - I use little arnica tablets sometimes when I am in pain and find them helpful - i used them in a sort of "precautionary" way to make a long haul trip to the southern hemisphere at christmas and despite being unable to sleep much on the flight I had no pain - which was a total surprise to me because sometimes even just being on the bus or train can cause a lot of pain.

Where do you get the smart water from?

Steph


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Hi Richard,

Very interesting. So far only avoidance and natural things help me. The sensitive people I know personally have only been able to benefit from man-made devices for a limited amount of time before they stopped working. What device has been consistently helping you?

I have not tried black tourmaline yet. When you use tourmaline for only a few hours is it for a certain time of day? What makes it successful and how do you know to stop using it?

Things which help me the most are fish oils and magnesium glycinate as my symptoms are primarily neurological. SmartWater (a brand of distilled electrolyte balanced water) helps my dehydration, and it seems to be the only brand which works for me. A drop of arnica by Flower Essence Services in the liter of SmartWater has decreased my pain enough to be noticeable. I haven't experimented with other arnicas so have no idea if this brand is special.


 

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Cheryl Griffing-2
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Hi Rick,

Thanks for all this info. I will give this a try. Sure hope it helps. I am desperate! Sounds like it may be a little difficult to find around here in LA.

Cheryl




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Subject: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.
 

 
Hello,
 
My name is Richard, and I just joined this group.   I was invited by the moderator to introduce myself and to tell the group about my own problems with EMF and about my attempts to deal with this issue.  Well, I did recently come across something that helped me in a big way, and I guess others migtht benefit from it too.  So here is my story.
        I developed EMF sensitivity about fourteen years ago.  I moved into a top-floor apartment in Miami Beach, and my downstairs neighbor was a ham radio operator.  He had his radio antenna on the building roof, about eight feet away from my head as I sat at my desk.  I was a college student then, and I sat at that desk all evening long.  And my neighbor talked on his radio all evening long, about five or six evenings a week.        
        For nearly three months, I hardly slept.  My head would not shut down and let  me sleep at night.  I thought I was going insane.  I knew nothing then about the effects of radio frequency on the human brain.  After about three months, I did learn what was causing the problem, and the landlord made my neighbor move his antenna.  But the damage was already done. I had become highly sensitized, not only to radio frequency, but to EMF as well.
        Over the years I have tried many, many different devices and techniques for dealing with this problem.  Most of the man-made devices were too strong for me.  I do still use one of those devices, which I can tolerate, but it only provides me with limited protection. (I do not know whether I am allowed to mention the name.)  Of the natural products I have tried, black tourmaline does help me quite a bit, but I can only use it for a few hours at a time.  At my last home (in Hollywood, south Florida), I did find a way to get a really good night's sleep.  I was living in an oceanfront building with a one-hundred-foot strip of natural, state-owned dune land between the property and the beach.  I built myself a sleep shelter out of natural, non-toxic materials (tents are appallingly toxic), and I slept out in the dune, close to the beach.  I was well away from any source of electricity and electro-magnetic fields, and I surrounded my
sleeping cot with a screen of radio frequency screening cloth. And I slept like I hadn't done since I was a child.   
        I realize that most people are not in a position to do as I was doing there, and I myself have lost that ideal sleeping environment.  Recently, due to circumstances beyond my control, I lost my home in Hollywood and was obliged to move into an apartment in Miami where the electrical and electro-magnetic readings are truly frightening.  The magnetic field is a steady ten milligauss, while the electrical field fluctuates between one thousand and fifteen hundred millivolts.  And I cannot do anything to change those numbers.  Anybody who knows what those numbers mean will think me crazy for being in such a place.  Believe me, I had no choice.
        The black tourmaline and my man-made protection device were hopelessly inadequate in such a strong field.  I couldn't sleep at all, I started experiencing non-stop tinnitus, and my head was in a terrible mess.  I was in serious trouble. 
        In desperation, I tried an idea that had come to me recently--though I hesitate to explain just how this idea came to me.  I went to a public park near my place of work in Miami--Alice Wainright Park--and I picked up a couple of one-pound chunks of oolitic limestone.  It turns out that most of eastern Florida consists of oolitic limestone, and there are places where one can find it on the surface.  I have been keeping those rocks in my pockets all day long ever since, and I sleep with them beside me at night. (I keep them in sandwich bags because this rock is soft and crumbly, and it tends to make a mess.)  And the effects of this rock have been quite remarkable.  I can sleep soundly, with none of the awful dreams that I usually experience when sleeping in an EMF-filled environment, and I wake up with my head in good shape.
        During the daytime, I receive the same protection.  Again, because of force of circumstances, I was recently obliged to start doing a telephone sales job in Miami, and by five o'clock each day my head was in an appallingly strained and exhausted state.  But I needed that job to survive, in spite of the damage it was doing me.  The day I started carrying the oolitic limestone in my pockets, the problems disappeared.  I came out of work at five o'clock with my head as fresh as it had been at nine in the morning. 
        I realize that I must still move out of this apartment as soon as possible because the extreme electrical and electro-magnetic fields in here may well be killing off brain cells and damaging my DNA as well.  But at least the oolitic limestone is protecting my conscious brain state so that I am fully functional and I can sleep well. 
    I did have two setbacks in using this oolitic limestone.  The first one came with the start of the Olympic Games in London.  I do not own a television and I do not normally watch television.  My new landlady lent me a tiny flatscreeen television so I could watch the games.  This television is so small that one has to sit within a couple of feet of it to see anything.  I wouldn't normally dream of getting so close to such a device, but I thought the oolitic limestone would protect me.  It did not, and I had an awful, sleepless night as a result.  So no more television for me.  Whether I would have had the same result from watching a normal sized television at a normal viewing distance, I do not know.  And I do not intend to experiment. 
        Secondly, I did buy a large, one-hundred-pound block of oolitic limestone from a local stone mason.  It occurred to me that I might get even better effects from having a lot of this rock all around my apartment.  I thought that enough of the rock might protect me from things like that television.  But having that much of the rock in my bedroom caused me to have a very strange and unpleasant night--though the effects were quite different from those caused by EMF.  The next night I put that big block outside, but I did break off a ten-pound piece that I put by my bed (in addition to the two one-pound pieces that I was already using).  Even this much proved to be too much, and I had another very unpleasant night. 
        The rock must be creating some field effect of its own that does not agree with me, except in very small quatities.  So long as I use no more than the two one-pound pieces that I started with, the rock does not cause me any problems. 
        So, if anybody else is interested in trying oolitic limestone, be warned: Start out using very small quantities; and there may be things, such as television, that will cancel out any benefits. 
        How does it work?  I do not know!  Maybe the crystalline structure somehow modulates the local man-made energy field.  I am not a scientist. 
        There are different varieties of oolitic limestone.  I am using the pure, white variety, which consists of nothing but oolites.  There are varieties that include quantities of sand or clay.  These tend to be red, yellow or orange in color.  I do not have any experience with those varieties.  To verify that you do in fact have oolitic limestone, break off a corner and look at a bit of clean unweathered rock surface through a magnifying glass.  The tiny, ovoid-shaped oolites will stand out clearly. 
        You will not find this rock in a rock shop.  But you may find it at a yard carrying rock and gravel for garden, ornamental and construction purposes.  And if it is not available in other parts of the country, try contacting a rock yard in south Florida.  I guess they will ship to you, for a price.  You do not need very much, and the rock itself is very cheap.  
        I should be interested to hear if others benefit from using this stuff as I have done.  I would also like to hear if others find better ways of using it than I have.   But remember, this rock has not cured me.  It has not lessened my sensitivity to EMF in any way.  And I do not know if it is proctecting me from radio frequency, because I do not know of any significant sources of RF in this neighborhood (I myself do not use a cellphone).  But I do know that it is protecting me from the effects of EMF as nothing else ever has.  For me, that is huge.

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Rick Billings
Hi  Cheryl,
 
You are correct.  It seems that oolitic limestone does not naturally occur in may parts of the country.  Look in the yellow pages under "sand and gravel."  Some of those places also carry a selection of rocks.  Ask if they carry oolitic limestone. And don't let them fob you of by saying, "Oh yes! We carry limestone."  We have no reason to suppose that any other form of limestone will help this problem.  If they haven't heard of oolitic limestone, try somewhere else.  If somebody tells you that they have oolitic limestone,  check it carefully under a magnifying glass--a cheap magnifying glass from Walgreens will do the job.  Look at a clean piece of the rock surface under the magnifying glass and the entire surface should consist of thousands of tiny rounded oolites.  If you can't find oolitic limestone in LA, let me know.  I have already sent some of this rock to one group member, and  agreed to send some to another member.  I
 would prefer it if people could find this rock for themselves, because it is rather time consuming for me to do this.  But if you are completely stymied, let me know.
 
All the best,
 
Richard
 
 
 


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From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

Hi Rick,

Thanks for all this info. I will give this a try. Sure hope it helps. I am desperate! Sounds like it may be a little difficult to find around here in LA.

Cheryl




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To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.


 
Hello,
 
My name is Richard, and I just joined this group.   I was invited by the moderator to introduce myself and to tell the group about my own problems with EMF and about my attempts to deal with this issue.  Well, I did recently come across something that helped me in a big way, and I guess others migtht benefit from it too.  So here is my story.
        I developed EMF sensitivity about fourteen years ago.  I moved into a top-floor apartment in Miami Beach, and my downstairs neighbor was a ham radio operator.  He had his radio antenna on the building roof, about eight feet away from my head as I sat at my desk.  I was a college student then, and I sat at that desk all evening long.  And my neighbor talked on his radio all evening long, about five or six evenings a week.        
        For nearly three months, I hardly slept.  My head would not shut down and let  me sleep at night.  I thought I was going insane.  I knew nothing then about the effects of radio frequency on the human brain.  After about three months, I did learn what was causing the problem, and the landlord made my neighbor move his antenna.  But the damage was already done. I had become highly sensitized, not only to radio frequency, but to EMF as well.
        Over the years I have tried many, many different devices and techniques for dealing with this problem.  Most of the man-made devices were too strong for me.  I do still use one of those devices, which I can tolerate, but it only provides me with limited protection. (I do not know whether I am allowed to mention the name.)  Of the natural products I have tried, black tourmaline does help me quite a bit, but I can only use it for a few hours at a time.  At my last home (in Hollywood, south Florida), I did find a way to get a really good night's sleep.  I was living in an oceanfront building with a one-hundred-foot strip of natural, state-owned dune land between the property and the beach.  I built myself a sleep shelter out of natural, non-toxic materials (tents are appallingly toxic), and I slept out in the dune, close to the beach.  I was well away from any source of electricity and electro-magnetic fields, and I surrounded my
sleeping cot with a screen of radio frequency screening cloth. And I slept like I hadn't done since I was a child.   
        I realize that most people are not in a position to do as I was doing there, and I myself have lost that ideal sleeping environment.  Recently, due to circumstances beyond my control, I lost my home in Hollywood and was obliged to move into an apartment in Miami where the electrical and electro-magnetic readings are truly frightening.  The magnetic field is a steady ten milligauss, while the electrical field fluctuates between one thousand and fifteen hundred millivolts.  And I cannot do anything to change those numbers.  Anybody who knows what those numbers mean will think me crazy for being in such a place.  Believe me, I had no choice.
        The black tourmaline and my man-made protection device were hopelessly inadequate in such a strong field.  I couldn't sleep at all, I started experiencing non-stop tinnitus, and my head was in a terrible mess.  I was in serious trouble. 
        In desperation, I tried an idea that had come to me recently--though I hesitate to explain just how this idea came to me.  I went to a public park near my place of work in Miami--Alice Wainright Park--and I picked up a couple of one-pound chunks of oolitic limestone.  It turns out that most of eastern Florida consists of oolitic limestone, and there are places where one can find it on the surface.  I have been keeping those rocks in my pockets all day long ever since, and I sleep with them beside me at night. (I keep them in sandwich bags because this rock is soft and crumbly, and it tends to make a mess.)  And the effects of this rock have been quite remarkable.  I can sleep soundly, with none of the awful dreams that I usually experience when sleeping in an EMF-filled environment, and I wake up with my head in good shape.
        During the daytime, I receive the same protection.  Again, because of force of circumstances, I was recently obliged to start doing a telephone sales job in Miami, and by five o'clock each day my head was in an appallingly strained and exhausted state.  But I needed that job to survive, in spite of the damage it was doing me.  The day I started carrying the oolitic limestone in my pockets, the problems disappeared.  I came out of work at five o'clock with my head as fresh as it had been at nine in the morning. 
        I realize that I must still move out of this apartment as soon as possible because the extreme electrical and electro-magnetic fields in here may well be killing off brain cells and damaging my DNA as well.  But at least the oolitic limestone is protecting my conscious brain state so that I am fully functional and I can sleep well. 
    I did have two setbacks in using this oolitic limestone.  The first one came with the start of the Olympic Games in London.  I do not own a television and I do not normally watch television.  My new landlady lent me a tiny flatscreeen television so I could watch the games.  This television is so small that one has to sit within a couple of feet of it to see anything.  I wouldn't normally dream of getting so close to such a device, but I thought the oolitic limestone would protect me.  It did not, and I had an awful, sleepless night as a result.  So no more television for me.  Whether I would have had the same result from watching a normal sized television at a normal viewing distance, I do not know.  And I do not intend to experiment. 
        Secondly, I did buy a large, one-hundred-pound block of oolitic limestone from a local stone mason.  It occurred to me that I might get even better effects from having a lot of this rock all around my apartment.  I thought that enough of the rock might protect me from things like that television.  But having that much of the rock in my bedroom caused me to have a very strange and unpleasant night--though the effects were quite different from those caused by EMF.  The next night I put that big block outside, but I did break off a ten-pound piece that I put by my bed (in addition to the two one-pound pieces that I was already using).  Even this much proved to be too much, and I had another very unpleasant night. 
        The rock must be creating some field effect of its own that does not agree with me, except in very small quatities.  So long as I use no more than the two one-pound pieces that I started with, the rock does not cause me any problems. 
        So, if anybody else is interested in trying oolitic limestone, be warned: Start out using very small quantities; and there may be things, such as television, that will cancel out any benefits. 
        How does it work?  I do not know!  Maybe the crystalline structure somehow modulates the local man-made energy field.  I am not a scientist. 
        There are different varieties of oolitic limestone.  I am using the pure, white variety, which consists of nothing but oolites.  There are varieties that include quantities of sand or clay.  These tend to be red, yellow or orange in color.  I do not have any experience with those varieties.  To verify that you do in fact have oolitic limestone, break off a corner and look at a bit of clean unweathered rock surface through a magnifying glass.  The tiny, ovoid-shaped oolites will stand out clearly. 
        You will not find this rock in a rock shop.  But you may find it at a yard carrying rock and gravel for garden, ornamental and construction purposes.  And if it is not available in other parts of the country, try contacting a rock yard in south Florida.  I guess they will ship to you, for a price.  You do not need very much, and the rock itself is very cheap.  
        I should be interested to hear if others benefit from using this stuff as I have done.  I would also like to hear if others find better ways of using it than I have.   But remember, this rock has not cured me.  It has not lessened my sensitivity to EMF in any way.  And I do not know if it is proctecting me from radio frequency, because I do not know of any significant sources of RF in this neighborhood (I myself do not use a cellphone).  But I do know that it is protecting me from the effects of EMF as nothing else ever has.  For me, that is huge.

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Hi Rick,

Would you be able to send me some of that oolitic limestone? I really tried to find it here in L.A. The store that was going to order it for me has moved away. Let me know what to do next so that you can send it to me. Well appreciated, believe me! I really believe it will help me.

Thanks ever so much,

Cheryl




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To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.
 

 
Hi  Cheryl,
 
You are correct.  It seems that oolitic limestone does not naturally occur in may parts of the country.  Look in the yellow pages under "sand and gravel."  Some of those places also carry a selection of rocks.  Ask if they carry oolitic limestone. And don't let them fob you of by saying, "Oh yes! We carry limestone."  We have no reason to suppose that any other form of limestone will help this problem.  If they haven't heard of oolitic limestone, try somewhere else.  If somebody tells you that they have oolitic limestone,  check it carefully under a magnifying glass--a cheap magnifying glass from Walgreens will do the job.  Look at a clean piece of the rock surface under the magnifying glass and the entire surface should consist of thousands of tiny rounded oolites.  If you can't find oolitic limestone in LA, let me know.  I have already sent some of this rock to one group member, and  agreed to send some to another member.  I
would prefer it if people could find this rock for themselves, because it is rather time consuming for me to do this.  But if you are completely stymied, let me know.
 
All the best,
 
Richard
 
 
 

________________________________
From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

Hi Rick,

Thanks for all this info. I will give this a try. Sure hope it helps. I am desperate! Sounds like it may be a little difficult to find around here in LA.

Cheryl

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From: Rick Billings <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

 
Hello,
 
My name is Richard, and I just joined this group.   I was invited by the moderator to introduce myself and to tell the group about my own problems with EMF and about my attempts to deal with this issue.  Well, I did recently come across something that helped me in a big way, and I guess others migtht benefit from it too.  So here is my story.
        I developed EMF sensitivity about fourteen years ago.  I moved into a top-floor apartment in Miami Beach, and my downstairs neighbor was a ham radio operator.  He had his radio antenna on the building roof, about eight feet away from my head as I sat at my desk.  I was a college student then, and I sat at that desk all evening long.  And my neighbor talked on his radio all evening long, about five or six evenings a week.        
        For nearly three months, I hardly slept.  My head would not shut down and let  me sleep at night.  I thought I was going insane.  I knew nothing then about the effects of radio frequency on the human brain.  After about three months, I did learn what was causing the problem, and the landlord made my neighbor move his antenna.  But the damage was already done. I had become highly sensitized, not only to radio frequency, but to EMF as well.
        Over the years I have tried many, many different devices and techniques for dealing with this problem.  Most of the man-made devices were too strong for me.  I do still use one of those devices, which I can tolerate, but it only provides me with limited protection. (I do not know whether I am allowed to mention the name.)  Of the natural products I have tried, black tourmaline does help me quite a bit, but I can only use it for a few hours at a time.  At my last home (in Hollywood, south Florida), I did find a way to get a really good night's sleep.  I was living in an oceanfront building with a one-hundred-foot strip of natural, state-owned dune land between the property and the beach.  I built myself a sleep shelter out of natural, non-toxic materials (tents are appallingly toxic), and I slept out in the dune, close to the beach.  I was well away from any source of electricity and electro-magnetic fields, and I surrounded my
sleeping cot with a screen of radio frequency screening cloth. And I slept like I hadn't done since I was a child.   
        I realize that most people are not in a position to do as I was doing there, and I myself have lost that ideal sleeping environment.  Recently, due to circumstances beyond my control, I lost my home in Hollywood and was obliged to move into an apartment in Miami where the electrical and electro-magnetic readings are truly frightening.  The magnetic field is a steady ten milligauss, while the electrical field fluctuates between one thousand and fifteen hundred millivolts.  And I cannot do anything to change those numbers.  Anybody who knows what those numbers mean will think me crazy for being in such a place.  Believe me, I had no choice.
        The black tourmaline and my man-made protection device were hopelessly inadequate in such a strong field.  I couldn't sleep at all, I started experiencing non-stop tinnitus, and my head was in a terrible mess.  I was in serious trouble. 
        In desperation, I tried an idea that had come to me recently--though I hesitate to explain just how this idea came to me.  I went to a public park near my place of work in Miami--Alice Wainright Park--and I picked up a couple of one-pound chunks of oolitic limestone.  It turns out that most of eastern Florida consists of oolitic limestone, and there are places where one can find it on the surface.  I have been keeping those rocks in my pockets all day long ever since, and I sleep with them beside me at night. (I keep them in sandwich bags because this rock is soft and crumbly, and it tends to make a mess.)  And the effects of this rock have been quite remarkable.  I can sleep soundly, with none of the awful dreams that I usually experience when sleeping in an EMF-filled environment, and I wake up with my head in good shape.
        During the daytime, I receive the same protection.  Again, because of force of circumstances, I was recently obliged to start doing a telephone sales job in Miami, and by five o'clock each day my head was in an appallingly strained and exhausted state.  But I needed that job to survive, in spite of the damage it was doing me.  The day I started carrying the oolitic limestone in my pockets, the problems disappeared.  I came out of work at five o'clock with my head as fresh as it had been at nine in the morning. 
        I realize that I must still move out of this apartment as soon as possible because the extreme electrical and electro-magnetic fields in here may well be killing off brain cells and damaging my DNA as well.  But at least the oolitic limestone is protecting my conscious brain state so that I am fully functional and I can sleep well. 
    I did have two setbacks in using this oolitic limestone.  The first one came with the start of the Olympic Games in London.  I do not own a television and I do not normally watch television.  My new landlady lent me a tiny flatscreeen television so I could watch the games.  This television is so small that one has to sit within a couple of feet of it to see anything.  I wouldn't normally dream of getting so close to such a device, but I thought the oolitic limestone would protect me.  It did not, and I had an awful, sleepless night as a result.  So no more television for me.  Whether I would have had the same result from watching a normal sized television at a normal viewing distance, I do not know.  And I do not intend to experiment. 
        Secondly, I did buy a large, one-hundred-pound block of oolitic limestone from a local stone mason.  It occurred to me that I might get even better effects from having a lot of this rock all around my apartment.  I thought that enough of the rock might protect me from things like that television.  But having that much of the rock in my bedroom caused me to have a very strange and unpleasant night--though the effects were quite different from those caused by EMF.  The next night I put that big block outside, but I did break off a ten-pound piece that I put by my bed (in addition to the two one-pound pieces that I was already using).  Even this much proved to be too much, and I had another very unpleasant night. 
        The rock must be creating some field effect of its own that does not agree with me, except in very small quatities.  So long as I use no more than the two one-pound pieces that I started with, the rock does not cause me any problems. 
        So, if anybody else is interested in trying oolitic limestone, be warned: Start out using very small quantities; and there may be things, such as television, that will cancel out any benefits. 
        How does it work?  I do not know!  Maybe the crystalline structure somehow modulates the local man-made energy field.  I am not a scientist. 
        There are different varieties of oolitic limestone.  I am using the pure, white variety, which consists of nothing but oolites.  There are varieties that include quantities of sand or clay.  These tend to be red, yellow or orange in color.  I do not have any experience with those varieties.  To verify that you do in fact have oolitic limestone, break off a corner and look at a bit of clean unweathered rock surface through a magnifying glass.  The tiny, ovoid-shaped oolites will stand out clearly. 
        You will not find this rock in a rock shop.  But you may find it at a yard carrying rock and gravel for garden, ornamental and construction purposes.  And if it is not available in other parts of the country, try contacting a rock yard in south Florida.  I guess they will ship to you, for a price.  You do not need very much, and the rock itself is very cheap.  
        I should be interested to hear if others benefit from using this stuff as I have done.  I would also like to hear if others find better ways of using it than I have.   But remember, this rock has not cured me.  It has not lessened my sensitivity to EMF in any way.  And I do not know if it is proctecting me from radio frequency, because I do not know of any significant sources of RF in this neighborhood (I myself do not use a cellphone).  But I do know that it is protecting me from the effects of EMF as nothing else ever has.  For me, that is huge.

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Hi Rick

I beleive you shouldn't spend time to send champios averywhere ... but could you give details (web site and so on) where you buy it ?

Thanks

Giorgio

--- In [hidden email], Rick Billings <newrwb5432@...> wrote:

>
> Hi  Cheryl,
>  
> You are correct.  It seems that oolitic limestone does not naturally occur in may parts of the country.  Look in the yellow pages under "sand and gravel."  Some of those places also carry a selection of rocks.  Ask if they carry oolitic limestone. And don't let them fob you of by saying, "Oh yes! We carry limestone."  We have no reason to suppose that any other form of limestone will help this problem.  If they haven't heard of oolitic limestone, try somewhere else.  If somebody tells you that they have oolitic limestone,  check it carefully under a magnifying glass--a cheap magnifying glass from Walgreens will do the job.  Look at a clean piece of the rock surface under the magnifying glass and the entire surface should consist of thousands of tiny rounded oolites.  If you can't find oolitic limestone in LA, let me know.  I have already sent some of this rock to one group member, and  agreed to send some to another member.  I
>  would prefer it if people could find this rock for themselves, because it is rather time consuming for me to do this.  But if you are completely stymied, let me know.
>  
> All the best,
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@...>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> Thanks for all this info. I will give this a try. Sure hope it helps. I am desperate! Sounds like it may be a little difficult to find around here in LA.
>
> Cheryl
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rick Billings <newrwb5432@...>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:39 PM
> Subject: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.
>
>
>  
> Hello,
>  
> My name is Richard, and I just joined this group.   I was invited by the moderator to introduce myself and to tell the group about my own problems with EMF and about my attempts to deal with this issue.  Well, I did recently come across something that helped me in a big way, and I guess others migtht benefit from it too.  So here is my story.
>         I developed EMF sensitivity about fourteen years ago.  I moved into a top-floor apartment in Miami Beach, and my downstairs neighbor was a ham radio operator.  He had his radio antenna on the building roof, about eight feet away from my head as I sat at my desk.  I was a college student then, and I sat at that desk all evening long.  And my neighbor talked on his radio all evening long, about five or six evenings a week.        
>         For nearly three months, I hardly slept.  My head would not shut down and let  me sleep at night.  I thought I was going insane.  I knew nothing then about the effects of radio frequency on the human brain.  After about three months, I did learn what was causing the problem, and the landlord made my neighbor move his antenna.  But the damage was already done. I had become highly sensitized, not only to radio frequency, but to EMF as well.
>         Over the years I have tried many, many different devices and techniques for dealing with this problem.  Most of the man-made devices were too strong for me.  I do still use one of those devices, which I can tolerate, but it only provides me with limited protection. (I do not know whether I am allowed to mention the name.)  Of the natural products I have tried, black tourmaline does help me quite a bit, but I can only use it for a few hours at a time.  At my last home (in Hollywood, south Florida), I did find a way to get a really good night's sleep.  I was living in an oceanfront building with a one-hundred-foot strip of natural, state-owned dune land between the property and the beach.  I built myself a sleep shelter out of natural, non-toxic materials (tents are appallingly toxic), and I slept out in the dune, close to the beach.  I was well away from any source of electricity and electro-magnetic fields, and I surrounded my
> sleeping cot with a screen of radio frequency screening cloth. And I slept like I hadn't done since I was a child.   
>         I realize that most people are not in a position to do as I was doing there, and I myself have lost that ideal sleeping environment.  Recently, due to circumstances beyond my control, I lost my home in Hollywood and was obliged to move into an apartment in Miami where the electrical and electro-magnetic readings are truly frightening.  The magnetic field is a steady ten milligauss, while the electrical field fluctuates between one thousand and fifteen hundred millivolts.  And I cannot do anything to change those numbers.  Anybody who knows what those numbers mean will think me crazy for being in such a place.  Believe me, I had no choice.
>         The black tourmaline and my man-made protection device were hopelessly inadequate in such a strong field.  I couldn't sleep at all, I started experiencing non-stop tinnitus, and my head was in a terrible mess.  I was in serious trouble. 
>         In desperation, I tried an idea that had come to me recently--though I hesitate to explain just how this idea came to me.  I went to a public park near my place of work in Miami--Alice Wainright Park--and I picked up a couple of one-pound chunks of oolitic limestone.  It turns out that most of eastern Florida consists of oolitic limestone, and there are places where one can find it on the surface.  I have been keeping those rocks in my pockets all day long ever since, and I sleep with them beside me at night. (I keep them in sandwich bags because this rock is soft and crumbly, and it tends to make a mess.)  And the effects of this rock have been quite remarkable.  I can sleep soundly, with none of the awful dreams that I usually experience when sleeping in an EMF-filled environment, and I wake up with my head in good shape.
>         During the daytime, I receive the same protection.  Again, because of force of circumstances, I was recently obliged to start doing a telephone sales job in Miami, and by five o'clock each day my head was in an appallingly strained and exhausted state.  But I needed that job to survive, in spite of the damage it was doing me.  The day I started carrying the oolitic limestone in my pockets, the problems disappeared.  I came out of work at five o'clock with my head as fresh as it had been at nine in the morning. 
>         I realize that I must still move out of this apartment as soon as possible because the extreme electrical and electro-magnetic fields in here may well be killing off brain cells and damaging my DNA as well.  But at least the oolitic limestone is protecting my conscious brain state so that I am fully functional and I can sleep well. 
>     I did have two setbacks in using this oolitic limestone.  The first one came with the start of the Olympic Games in London.  I do not own a television and I do not normally watch television.  My new landlady lent me a tiny flatscreeen television so I could watch the games.  This television is so small that one has to sit within a couple of feet of it to see anything.  I wouldn't normally dream of getting so close to such a device, but I thought the oolitic limestone would protect me.  It did not, and I had an awful, sleepless night as a result.  So no more television for me.  Whether I would have had the same result from watching a normal sized television at a normal viewing distance, I do not know.  And I do not intend to experiment. 
>         Secondly, I did buy a large, one-hundred-pound block of oolitic limestone from a local stone mason.  It occurred to me that I might get even better effects from having a lot of this rock all around my apartment.  I thought that enough of the rock might protect me from things like that television.  But having that much of the rock in my bedroom caused me to have a very strange and unpleasant night--though the effects were quite different from those caused by EMF.  The next night I put that big block outside, but I did break off a ten-pound piece that I put by my bed (in addition to the two one-pound pieces that I was already using).  Even this much proved to be too much, and I had another very unpleasant night. 
>         The rock must be creating some field effect of its own that does not agree with me, except in very small quatities.  So long as I use no more than the two one-pound pieces that I started with, the rock does not cause me any problems. 
>         So, if anybody else is interested in trying oolitic limestone, be warned: Start out using very small quantities; and there may be things, such as television, that will cancel out any benefits. 
>         How does it work?  I do not know!  Maybe the crystalline structure somehow modulates the local man-made energy field.  I am not a scientist. 
>         There are different varieties of oolitic limestone.  I am using the pure, white variety, which consists of nothing but oolites.  There are varieties that include quantities of sand or clay.  These tend to be red, yellow or orange in color.  I do not have any experience with those varieties.  To verify that you do in fact have oolitic limestone, break off a corner and look at a bit of clean unweathered rock surface through a magnifying glass.  The tiny, ovoid-shaped oolites will stand out clearly. 
>         You will not find this rock in a rock shop.  But you may find it at a yard carrying rock and gravel for garden, ornamental and construction purposes.  And if it is not available in other parts of the country, try contacting a rock yard in south Florida.  I guess they will ship to you, for a price.  You do not need very much, and the rock itself is very cheap.  
>         I should be interested to hear if others benefit from using this stuff as I have done.  I would also like to hear if others find better ways of using it than I have.   But remember, this rock has not cured me.  It has not lessened my sensitivity to EMF in any way.  And I do not know if it is proctecting me from radio frequency, because I do not know of any significant sources of RF in this neighborhood (I myself do not use a cellphone).  But I do know that it is protecting me from the effects of EMF as nothing else ever has.  For me, that is huge.
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I found this link that shows some pictures.  It also states that Oolitic limestone is a form of Calcite.  
http://geology.com/minerals/calcite.shtml

One thought that came to me Richard as I was reading your post about the 100 lb Oolitic limestone is that sometimes big crystals have the power to heal and what you may have been experiencing was the 100 lb Oolitic limestone working on you at a deep level which if allowed to continue may heal the damage done by your intense emf exposure.

Blessings,  Nancy

>         How does it work?  I do not know!  Maybe the crystalline structure somehow modulates the local man-made energy field.  I am not a scientist. 
>         There are different varieties of oolitic limestone.  I am using the pure, white variety, which consists of nothing but oolites.  There are varieties that include quantities of sand or clay.  These tend to be red, yellow or orange in color.  I do not have any experience with those varieties.  To verify that you do in fact have oolitic limestone, break off a corner and look at a bit of clean unweathered rock surface through a magnifying glass.  The tiny, ovoid-shaped oolites will stand out clearly. 
>         You will not find this rock in a rock shop.  But you may find it at a yard carrying rock and gravel for garden, ornamental and construction purposes.  And if it is not available in other parts of the country, try contacting a rock yard in south Florida.  I guess they will ship to you, for a price.  You do not need very much, and the rock itself is very cheap.  
>         I should be interested to hear if others benefit from using this stuff as I have done.  I would also like to hear if others find better ways of using it than I have.   But remember, this rock has not cured me.  It has not lessened my sensitivity to EMF in any way.  And I do not know if it is proctecting me from radio frequency, because I do not know of any significant sources of RF in this neighborhood (I myself do not use a cellphone).  But I do know that it is protecting me from the effects of EMF as nothing else ever has.  For me, that is huge.



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Rick Billings
Hi Nancy,  That big block of oolitic limestone I bought is NOT one big crystal.  Oolites are tiny, tiny pearls.  Each one is formed by the deposition of calcite around a tiny "seed" of sand of shell fragment--the same way that the familiar pearl is formed.  Each oolite has an egg-shaped, ovoid form.  Trillions of these tiny egg shaped structures are then compressed into a solid mass by the effects of heat and pressure.  The crystalline structure does not extend beyond the level of the individual oolite--each one of which is far less than a millimeter in diameter.  If I slept with 100 pounds of this rock beside me, I would probably have some serious problems.  When I slept with as little as twelve pounds of it beside me, I had a very unpleasant night.  I only need about two  pounds of this rock beside me to gain relief from all my EMF symptoms, and that is all that I use.  And this rock is not "healing" me.  If I forget to carry the rocks with
 me, my symptoms soon reappear.  The rock is somehow shielding me from the conscious effects that EMF usually has on me.  But the rock is not eliminating my sensitivity.  Richard


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Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 11:45 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

I found this link that shows some pictures.  It also states that Oolitic limestone is a form of Calcite. 
http://geology.com/minerals/calcite.shtml

One thought that came to me Richard as I was reading your post about the 100 lb Oolitic limestone is that sometimes big crystals have the power to heal and what you may have been experiencing was the 100 lb Oolitic limestone working on you at a deep level which if allowed to continue may heal the damage done by your intense emf exposure.

Blessings,  Nancy

>         How does it work?  I do not know!  Maybe the crystalline structure somehow modulates the local man-made energy field.  I am not a scientist. 
>         There are different varieties of oolitic limestone.  I am using the pure, white variety, which consists of nothing but oolites.  There are varieties that include quantities of sand or clay.  These tend to be red, yellow or orange in color.  I do not have any experience with those varieties.  To verify that you do in fact have oolitic limestone, break off a corner and look at a bit of clean unweathered rock surface through a magnifying glass.  The tiny, ovoid-shaped oolites will stand out clearly. 
>         You will not find this rock in a rock shop.  But you may find it at a yard carrying rock and gravel for garden, ornamental and construction purposes.  And if it is not available in other parts of the country, try contacting a rock yard in south Florida.  I guess they will ship to you, for a price.  You do not need very much, and the rock itself is very cheap.  
>         I should be interested to hear if others benefit from using this stuff as I have done.  I would also like to hear if others find better ways of using it than I have.   But remember, this rock has not cured me.  It has not lessened my sensitivity to EMF in any way.  And I do not know if it is proctecting me from radio frequency, because I do not know of any significant sources of RF in this neighborhood (I myself do not use a cellphone).  But I do know that it is protecting me from the effects of EMF as nothing else ever has.  For me, that is huge.





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Hi Giorgio,
 
I did not find this rock on any website.  The first pieces of this rock I found in a public park, here in Miami.  Later on I bought a big block of this rock from a local stone mason.  Most of south east Florida consists of oolitic limestone, so one can find it fairly easily down here.  But it does not seem to occur in many other parts of the country, so most people will probably need to find someone down here who can send it to them.  I have agree to send some to a couple of people.  But my landlady and my neighbors started complaining about the noise I was making while cutting it up with a stone chisel and hammer.  I will not be able to send any more of this rock to other group members till I have figured out a way of cutting it up without antagonizing everybody around me.  Richard


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Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 11:35 AM
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Hi Rick

I beleive you shouldn't spend time to send champios averywhere ... but could you give details (web site and so on) where you buy it ?

Thanks

Giorgio

--- In [hidden email], Rick Billings <newrwb5432@...> wrote:

>
> Hi  Cheryl,
>  
> You are correct.  It seems that oolitic limestone does not naturally occur in may parts of the country.  Look in the yellow pages under "sand and gravel."  Some of those places also carry a selection of rocks.  Ask if they carry oolitic limestone. And don't let them fob you of by saying, "Oh yes! We carry limestone."  We have no reason to suppose that any other form of limestone will help this problem.  If they haven't heard of oolitic limestone, try somewhere else.  If somebody tells you that they have oolitic limestone,  check it carefully under a magnifying glass--a cheap magnifying glass from Walgreens will do the job.  Look at a clean piece of the rock surface under the magnifying glass and the entire surface should consist of thousands of tiny rounded oolites.  If you can't find oolitic limestone in LA, let me know.  I have already sent some of this rock to one group member, and  agreed to send some to another member.  I
>  would prefer it if people could find this rock for themselves, because it is rather time consuming for me to do this.  But if you are completely stymied, let me know.
>  
> All the best,
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
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> From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@...>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.
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> Hi Rick,
>
> Thanks for all this info. I will give this a try. Sure hope it helps. I am desperate! Sounds like it may be a little difficult to find around here in LA.
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> From: Rick Billings <newrwb5432@...>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:39 PM
> Subject: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.
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> Hello,
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> My name is Richard, and I just joined this group.   I was invited by the moderator to introduce myself and to tell the group about my own problems with EMF and about my attempts to deal with this issue.  Well, I did recently come across something that helped me in a big way, and I guess others migtht benefit from it too.  So here is my story.
>         I developed EMF sensitivity about fourteen years ago.  I moved into a top-floor apartment in Miami Beach, and my downstairs neighbor was a ham radio operator.  He had his radio antenna on the building roof, about eight feet away from my head as I sat at my desk.  I was a college student then, and I sat at that desk all evening long.  And my neighbor talked on his radio all evening long, about five or six evenings a week.        
>         For nearly three months, I hardly slept.  My head would not shut down and let  me sleep at night.  I thought I was going insane.  I knew nothing then about the effects of radio frequency on the human brain.  After about three months, I did learn what was causing the problem, and the landlord made my neighbor move his antenna.  But the damage was already done. I had become highly sensitized, not only to radio frequency, but to EMF as well.
>         Over the years I have tried many, many different devices and techniques for dealing with this problem.  Most of the man-made devices were too strong for me.  I do still use one of those devices, which I can tolerate, but it only provides me with limited protection. (I do not know whether I am allowed to mention the name.)  Of the natural products I have tried, black tourmaline does help me quite a bit, but I can only use it for a few hours at a time.  At my last home (in Hollywood, south Florida), I did find a way to get a really good night's sleep.  I was living in an oceanfront building with a one-hundred-foot strip of natural, state-owned dune land between the property and the beach.  I built myself a sleep shelter out of natural, non-toxic materials (tents are appallingly toxic), and I slept out in the dune, close to the beach.  I was well away from any source of electricity and electro-magnetic fields, and I surrounded my
> sleeping cot with a screen of radio frequency screening cloth. And I slept like I hadn't done since I was a child.   
>         I realize that most people are not in a position to do as I was doing there, and I myself have lost that ideal sleeping environment.  Recently, due to circumstances beyond my control, I lost my home in Hollywood and was obliged to move into an apartment in Miami where the electrical and electro-magnetic readings are truly frightening.  The magnetic field is a steady ten milligauss, while the electrical field fluctuates between one thousand and fifteen hundred millivolts.  And I cannot do anything to change those numbers.  Anybody who knows what those numbers mean will think me crazy for being in such a place.  Believe me, I had no choice.
>         The black tourmaline and my man-made protection device were hopelessly inadequate in such a strong field.  I couldn't sleep at all, I started experiencing non-stop tinnitus, and my head was in a terrible mess.  I was in serious trouble. 
>         In desperation, I tried an idea that had come to me recently--though I hesitate to explain just how this idea came to me.  I went to a public park near my place of work in Miami--Alice Wainright Park--and I picked up a couple of one-pound chunks of oolitic limestone.  It turns out that most of eastern Florida consists of oolitic limestone, and there are places where one can find it on the surface.  I have been keeping those rocks in my pockets all day long ever since, and I sleep with them beside me at night. (I keep them in sandwich bags because this rock is soft and crumbly, and it tends to make a mess.)  And the effects of this rock have been quite remarkable.  I can sleep soundly, with none of the awful dreams that I usually experience when sleeping in an EMF-filled environment, and I wake up with my head in good shape.
>         During the daytime, I receive the same protection.  Again, because of force of circumstances, I was recently obliged to start doing a telephone sales job in Miami, and by five o'clock each day my head was in an appallingly strained and exhausted state.  But I needed that job to survive, in spite of the damage it was doing me.  The day I started carrying the oolitic limestone in my pockets, the problems disappeared.  I came out of work at five o'clock with my head as fresh as it had been at nine in the morning. 
>         I realize that I must still move out of this apartment as soon as possible because the extreme electrical and electro-magnetic fields in here may well be killing off brain cells and damaging my DNA as well.  But at least the oolitic limestone is protecting my conscious brain state so that I am fully functional and I can sleep well. 
>     I did have two setbacks in using this oolitic limestone.  The first one came with the start of the Olympic Games in London.  I do not own a television and I do not normally watch television.  My new landlady lent me a tiny flatscreeen television so I could watch the games.  This television is so small that one has to sit within a couple of feet of it to see anything.  I wouldn't normally dream of getting so close to such a device, but I thought the oolitic limestone would protect me.  It did not, and I had an awful, sleepless night as a result.  So no more television for me.  Whether I would have had the same result from watching a normal sized television at a normal viewing distance, I do not know.  And I do not intend to experiment. 
>         Secondly, I did buy a large, one-hundred-pound block of oolitic limestone from a local stone mason.  It occurred to me that I might get even better effects from having a lot of this rock all around my apartment.  I thought that enough of the rock might protect me from things like that television.  But having that much of the rock in my bedroom caused me to have a very strange and unpleasant night--though the effects were quite different from those caused by EMF.  The next night I put that big block outside, but I did break off a ten-pound piece that I put by my bed (in addition to the two one-pound pieces that I was already using).  Even this much proved to be too much, and I had another very unpleasant night. 
>         The rock must be creating some field effect of its own that does not agree with me, except in very small quatities.  So long as I use no more than the two one-pound pieces that I started with, the rock does not cause me any problems. 
>         So, if anybody else is interested in trying oolitic limestone, be warned: Start out using very small quantities; and there may be things, such as television, that will cancel out any benefits. 
>         How does it work?  I do not know!  Maybe the crystalline structure somehow modulates the local man-made energy field.  I am not a scientist. 
>         There are different varieties of oolitic limestone.  I am using the pure, white variety, which consists of nothing but oolites.  There are varieties that include quantities of sand or clay.  These tend to be red, yellow or orange in color.  I do not have any experience with those varieties.  To verify that you do in fact have oolitic limestone, break off a corner and look at a bit of clean unweathered rock surface through a magnifying glass.  The tiny, ovoid-shaped oolites will stand out clearly. 
>         You will not find this rock in a rock shop.  But you may find it at a yard carrying rock and gravel for garden, ornamental and construction purposes.  And if it is not available in other parts of the country, try contacting a rock yard in south Florida.  I guess they will ship to you, for a price.  You do not need very much, and the rock itself is very cheap.  
>         I should be interested to hear if others benefit from using this stuff as I have done.  I would also like to hear if others find better ways of using it than I have.   But remember, this rock has not cured me.  It has not lessened my sensitivity to EMF in any way.  And I do not know if it is proctecting me from radio frequency, because I do not know of any significant sources of RF in this neighborhood (I myself do not use a cellphone).  But I do know that it is protecting me from the effects of EMF as nothing else ever has.  For me, that is huge.
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Hi Cheryl,
 
I would gladly send you some oolitic limestone, but I have run into a problem.  I was cutting up some of the rock to send to a couple of group members when my landlady and some of my neighbors started complaining about the noise I was making.  Cutting up rock with a stone chisel and hammer is a very noisy business.  I must first figure out a socially acceptable way of cutting this rock up before I can send any more of it to anyone.  I will let you know when I have solved this problem.  Richard


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From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

Hi Rick,

Would you be able to send me some of that oolitic limestone? I really tried to find it here in L.A. The store that was going to order it for me has moved away. Let me know what to do next so that you can send it to me. Well appreciated, believe me! I really believe it will help me.

Thanks ever so much,

Cheryl




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Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:03 PM
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Hi  Cheryl,
 
You are correct.  It seems that oolitic limestone does not naturally occur in may parts of the country.  Look in the yellow pages under "sand and gravel."  Some of those places also carry a selection of rocks.  Ask if they carry oolitic limestone. And don't let them fob you of by saying, "Oh yes! We carry limestone."  We have no reason to suppose that any other form of limestone will help this problem.  If they haven't heard of oolitic limestone, try somewhere else.  If somebody tells you that they have oolitic limestone,  check it carefully under a magnifying glass--a cheap magnifying glass from Walgreens will do the job.  Look at a clean piece of the rock surface under the magnifying glass and the entire surface should consist of thousands of tiny rounded oolites.  If you can't find oolitic limestone in LA, let me know.  I have already sent some of this rock to one group member, and  agreed to send some to another member.  I
would prefer it if people could find this rock for themselves, because it is rather time consuming for me to do this.  But if you are completely stymied, let me know.
 
All the best,
 
Richard
 
 
 

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From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

Hi Rick,

Thanks for all this info. I will give this a try. Sure hope it helps. I am desperate! Sounds like it may be a little difficult to find around here in LA.

Cheryl

________________________________
From: Rick Billings <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

 
Hello,
 
My name is Richard, and I just joined this group.   I was invited by the moderator to introduce myself and to tell the group about my own problems with EMF and about my attempts to deal with this issue.  Well, I did recently come across something that helped me in a big way, and I guess others migtht benefit from it too.  So here is my story.
        I developed EMF sensitivity about fourteen years ago.  I moved into a top-floor apartment in Miami Beach, and my downstairs neighbor was a ham radio operator.  He had his radio antenna on the building roof, about eight feet away from my head as I sat at my desk.  I was a college student then, and I sat at that desk all evening long.  And my neighbor talked on his radio all evening long, about five or six evenings a week.        
        For nearly three months, I hardly slept.  My head would not shut down and let  me sleep at night.  I thought I was going insane.  I knew nothing then about the effects of radio frequency on the human brain.  After about three months, I did learn what was causing the problem, and the landlord made my neighbor move his antenna.  But the damage was already done. I had become highly sensitized, not only to radio frequency, but to EMF as well.
        Over the years I have tried many, many different devices and techniques for dealing with this problem.  Most of the man-made devices were too strong for me.  I do still use one of those devices, which I can tolerate, but it only provides me with limited protection. (I do not know whether I am allowed to mention the name.)  Of the natural products I have tried, black tourmaline does help me quite a bit, but I can only use it for a few hours at a time.  At my last home (in Hollywood, south Florida), I did find a way to get a really good night's sleep.  I was living in an oceanfront building with a one-hundred-foot strip of natural, state-owned dune land between the property and the beach.  I built myself a sleep shelter out of natural, non-toxic materials (tents are appallingly toxic), and I slept out in the dune, close to the beach.  I was well away from any source of electricity and electro-magnetic fields, and I surrounded my
sleeping cot with a screen of radio frequency screening cloth. And I slept like I hadn't done since I was a child.   
        I realize that most people are not in a position to do as I was doing there, and I myself have lost that ideal sleeping environment.  Recently, due to circumstances beyond my control, I lost my home in Hollywood and was obliged to move into an apartment in Miami where the electrical and electro-magnetic readings are truly frightening.  The magnetic field is a steady ten milligauss, while the electrical field fluctuates between one thousand and fifteen hundred millivolts.  And I cannot do anything to change those numbers.  Anybody who knows what those numbers mean will think me crazy for being in such a place.  Believe me, I had no choice.
        The black tourmaline and my man-made protection device were hopelessly inadequate in such a strong field.  I couldn't sleep at all, I started experiencing non-stop tinnitus, and my head was in a terrible mess.  I was in serious trouble. 
        In desperation, I tried an idea that had come to me recently--though I hesitate to explain just how this idea came to me.  I went to a public park near my place of work in Miami--Alice Wainright Park--and I picked up a couple of one-pound chunks of oolitic limestone.  It turns out that most of eastern Florida consists of oolitic limestone, and there are places where one can find it on the surface.  I have been keeping those rocks in my pockets all day long ever since, and I sleep with them beside me at night. (I keep them in sandwich bags because this rock is soft and crumbly, and it tends to make a mess.)  And the effects of this rock have been quite remarkable.  I can sleep soundly, with none of the awful dreams that I usually experience when sleeping in an EMF-filled environment, and I wake up with my head in good shape.
        During the daytime, I receive the same protection.  Again, because of force of circumstances, I was recently obliged to start doing a telephone sales job in Miami, and by five o'clock each day my head was in an appallingly strained and exhausted state.  But I needed that job to survive, in spite of the damage it was doing me.  The day I started carrying the oolitic limestone in my pockets, the problems disappeared.  I came out of work at five o'clock with my head as fresh as it had been at nine in the morning. 
        I realize that I must still move out of this apartment as soon as possible because the extreme electrical and electro-magnetic fields in here may well be killing off brain cells and damaging my DNA as well.  But at least the oolitic limestone is protecting my conscious brain state so that I am fully functional and I can sleep well. 
    I did have two setbacks in using this oolitic limestone.  The first one came with the start of the Olympic Games in London.  I do not own a television and I do not normally watch television.  My new landlady lent me a tiny flatscreeen television so I could watch the games.  This television is so small that one has to sit within a couple of feet of it to see anything.  I wouldn't normally dream of getting so close to such a device, but I thought the oolitic limestone would protect me.  It did not, and I had an awful, sleepless night as a result.  So no more television for me.  Whether I would have had the same result from watching a normal sized television at a normal viewing distance, I do not know.  And I do not intend to experiment. 
        Secondly, I did buy a large, one-hundred-pound block of oolitic limestone from a local stone mason.  It occurred to me that I might get even better effects from having a lot of this rock all around my apartment.  I thought that enough of the rock might protect me from things like that television.  But having that much of the rock in my bedroom caused me to have a very strange and unpleasant night--though the effects were quite different from those caused by EMF.  The next night I put that big block outside, but I did break off a ten-pound piece that I put by my bed (in addition to the two one-pound pieces that I was already using).  Even this much proved to be too much, and I had another very unpleasant night. 
        The rock must be creating some field effect of its own that does not agree with me, except in very small quatities.  So long as I use no more than the two one-pound pieces that I started with, the rock does not cause me any problems. 
        So, if anybody else is interested in trying oolitic limestone, be warned: Start out using very small quantities; and there may be things, such as television, that will cancel out any benefits. 
        How does it work?  I do not know!  Maybe the crystalline structure somehow modulates the local man-made energy field.  I am not a scientist. 
        There are different varieties of oolitic limestone.  I am using the pure, white variety, which consists of nothing but oolites.  There are varieties that include quantities of sand or clay.  These tend to be red, yellow or orange in color.  I do not have any experience with those varieties.  To verify that you do in fact have oolitic limestone, break off a corner and look at a bit of clean unweathered rock surface through a magnifying glass.  The tiny, ovoid-shaped oolites will stand out clearly. 
        You will not find this rock in a rock shop.  But you may find it at a yard carrying rock and gravel for garden, ornamental and construction purposes.  And if it is not available in other parts of the country, try contacting a rock yard in south Florida.  I guess they will ship to you, for a price.  You do not need very much, and the rock itself is very cheap.  
        I should be interested to hear if others benefit from using this stuff as I have done.  I would also like to hear if others find better ways of using it than I have.   But remember, this rock has not cured me.  It has not lessened my sensitivity to EMF in any way.  And I do not know if it is proctecting me from radio frequency, because I do not know of any significant sources of RF in this neighborhood (I myself do not use a cellphone).  But I do know that it is protecting me from the effects of EMF as nothing else ever has.  For me, that is huge.

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Cheryl Griffing-2
Hi Richard,

Thanks for your reply. Are you cutting small pieces off of a very large piece that can't easily be moved to another location to cut? Yes, that could be a problem. At first I thought perhaps you could just do this some place else but then I realized the piece you are cutting from may be too large to easily move.

I even tried ebay for this. None there so far.

I will be looking forward to hearing about this from you later and how it is helping others who have tried it.

Cheryl



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 From: Rick Billings <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.
 

 
Hi Cheryl,
 
I would gladly send you some oolitic limestone, but I have run into a problem.  I was cutting up some of the rock to send to a couple of group members when my landlady and some of my neighbors started complaining about the noise I was making.  Cutting up rock with a stone chisel and hammer is a very noisy business.  I must first figure out a socially acceptable way of cutting this rock up before I can send any more of it to anyone.  I will let you know when I have solved this problem.  Richard

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From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

Hi Rick,

Would you be able to send me some of that oolitic limestone? I really tried to find it here in L.A. The store that was going to order it for me has moved away. Let me know what to do next so that you can send it to me. Well appreciated, believe me! I really believe it will help me.

Thanks ever so much,

Cheryl

________________________________
From: Rick Billings <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

 
Hi  Cheryl,
 
You are correct.  It seems that oolitic limestone does not naturally occur in may parts of the country.  Look in the yellow pages under "sand and gravel."  Some of those places also carry a selection of rocks.  Ask if they carry oolitic limestone. And don't let them fob you of by saying, "Oh yes! We carry limestone."  We have no reason to suppose that any other form of limestone will help this problem.  If they haven't heard of oolitic limestone, try somewhere else.  If somebody tells you that they have oolitic limestone,  check it carefully under a magnifying glass--a cheap magnifying glass from Walgreens will do the job.  Look at a clean piece of the rock surface under the magnifying glass and the entire surface should consist of thousands of tiny rounded oolites.  If you can't find oolitic limestone in LA, let me know.  I have already sent some of this rock to one group member, and  agreed to send some to another member.  I
would prefer it if people could find this rock for themselves, because it is rather time consuming for me to do this.  But if you are completely stymied, let me know.
 
All the best,
 
Richard
 
 
 

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From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

Hi Rick,

Thanks for all this info. I will give this a try. Sure hope it helps. I am desperate! Sounds like it may be a little difficult to find around here in LA.

Cheryl

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From: Rick Billings <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

 
Hello,
 
My name is Richard, and I just joined this group.   I was invited by the moderator to introduce myself and to tell the group about my own problems with EMF and about my attempts to deal with this issue.  Well, I did recently come across something that helped me in a big way, and I guess others migtht benefit from it too.  So here is my story.
        I developed EMF sensitivity about fourteen years ago.  I moved into a top-floor apartment in Miami Beach, and my downstairs neighbor was a ham radio operator.  He had his radio antenna on the building roof, about eight feet away from my head as I sat at my desk.  I was a college student then, and I sat at that desk all evening long.  And my neighbor talked on his radio all evening long, about five or six evenings a week.        
        For nearly three months, I hardly slept.  My head would not shut down and let  me sleep at night.  I thought I was going insane.  I knew nothing then about the effects of radio frequency on the human brain.  After about three months, I did learn what was causing the problem, and the landlord made my neighbor move his antenna.  But the damage was already done. I had become highly sensitized, not only to radio frequency, but to EMF as well.
        Over the years I have tried many, many different devices and techniques for dealing with this problem.  Most of the man-made devices were too strong for me.  I do still use one of those devices, which I can tolerate, but it only provides me with limited protection. (I do not know whether I am allowed to mention the name.)  Of the natural products I have tried, black tourmaline does help me quite a bit, but I can only use it for a few hours at a time.  At my last home (in Hollywood, south Florida), I did find a way to get a really good night's sleep.  I was living in an oceanfront building with a one-hundred-foot strip of natural, state-owned dune land between the property and the beach.  I built myself a sleep shelter out of natural, non-toxic materials (tents are appallingly toxic), and I slept out in the dune, close to the beach.  I was well away from any source of electricity and electro-magnetic fields, and I surrounded my
sleeping cot with a screen of radio frequency screening cloth. And I slept like I hadn't done since I was a child.   
        I realize that most people are not in a position to do as I was doing there, and I myself have lost that ideal sleeping environment.  Recently, due to circumstances beyond my control, I lost my home in Hollywood and was obliged to move into an apartment in Miami where the electrical and electro-magnetic readings are truly frightening.  The magnetic field is a steady ten milligauss, while the electrical field fluctuates between one thousand and fifteen hundred millivolts.  And I cannot do anything to change those numbers.  Anybody who knows what those numbers mean will think me crazy for being in such a place.  Believe me, I had no choice.
        The black tourmaline and my man-made protection device were hopelessly inadequate in such a strong field.  I couldn't sleep at all, I started experiencing non-stop tinnitus, and my head was in a terrible mess.  I was in serious trouble. 
        In desperation, I tried an idea that had come to me recently--though I hesitate to explain just how this idea came to me.  I went to a public park near my place of work in Miami--Alice Wainright Park--and I picked up a couple of one-pound chunks of oolitic limestone.  It turns out that most of eastern Florida consists of oolitic limestone, and there are places where one can find it on the surface.  I have been keeping those rocks in my pockets all day long ever since, and I sleep with them beside me at night. (I keep them in sandwich bags because this rock is soft and crumbly, and it tends to make a mess.)  And the effects of this rock have been quite remarkable.  I can sleep soundly, with none of the awful dreams that I usually experience when sleeping in an EMF-filled environment, and I wake up with my head in good shape.
        During the daytime, I receive the same protection.  Again, because of force of circumstances, I was recently obliged to start doing a telephone sales job in Miami, and by five o'clock each day my head was in an appallingly strained and exhausted state.  But I needed that job to survive, in spite of the damage it was doing me.  The day I started carrying the oolitic limestone in my pockets, the problems disappeared.  I came out of work at five o'clock with my head as fresh as it had been at nine in the morning. 
        I realize that I must still move out of this apartment as soon as possible because the extreme electrical and electro-magnetic fields in here may well be killing off brain cells and damaging my DNA as well.  But at least the oolitic limestone is protecting my conscious brain state so that I am fully functional and I can sleep well. 
    I did have two setbacks in using this oolitic limestone.  The first one came with the start of the Olympic Games in London.  I do not own a television and I do not normally watch television.  My new landlady lent me a tiny flatscreeen television so I could watch the games.  This television is so small that one has to sit within a couple of feet of it to see anything.  I wouldn't normally dream of getting so close to such a device, but I thought the oolitic limestone would protect me.  It did not, and I had an awful, sleepless night as a result.  So no more television for me.  Whether I would have had the same result from watching a normal sized television at a normal viewing distance, I do not know.  And I do not intend to experiment. 
        Secondly, I did buy a large, one-hundred-pound block of oolitic limestone from a local stone mason.  It occurred to me that I might get even better effects from having a lot of this rock all around my apartment.  I thought that enough of the rock might protect me from things like that television.  But having that much of the rock in my bedroom caused me to have a very strange and unpleasant night--though the effects were quite different from those caused by EMF.  The next night I put that big block outside, but I did break off a ten-pound piece that I put by my bed (in addition to the two one-pound pieces that I was already using).  Even this much proved to be too much, and I had another very unpleasant night. 
        The rock must be creating some field effect of its own that does not agree with me, except in very small quatities.  So long as I use no more than the two one-pound pieces that I started with, the rock does not cause me any problems. 
        So, if anybody else is interested in trying oolitic limestone, be warned: Start out using very small quantities; and there may be things, such as television, that will cancel out any benefits. 
        How does it work?  I do not know!  Maybe the crystalline structure somehow modulates the local man-made energy field.  I am not a scientist. 
        There are different varieties of oolitic limestone.  I am using the pure, white variety, which consists of nothing but oolites.  There are varieties that include quantities of sand or clay.  These tend to be red, yellow or orange in color.  I do not have any experience with those varieties.  To verify that you do in fact have oolitic limestone, break off a corner and look at a bit of clean unweathered rock surface through a magnifying glass.  The tiny, ovoid-shaped oolites will stand out clearly. 
        You will not find this rock in a rock shop.  But you may find it at a yard carrying rock and gravel for garden, ornamental and construction purposes.  And if it is not available in other parts of the country, try contacting a rock yard in south Florida.  I guess they will ship to you, for a price.  You do not need very much, and the rock itself is very cheap.  
        I should be interested to hear if others benefit from using this stuff as I have done.  I would also like to hear if others find better ways of using it than I have.   But remember, this rock has not cured me.  It has not lessened my sensitivity to EMF in any way.  And I do not know if it is proctecting me from radio frequency, because I do not know of any significant sources of RF in this neighborhood (I myself do not use a cellphone).  But I do know that it is protecting me from the effects of EMF as nothing else ever has.  For me, that is huge.

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Re: A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

Cheryl Griffing-2
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Hi Rick,

Since you mentioned about parts of Florida being rich in this oolitic limestone I thought of when I went to Florida 10 years ago and felt so much better there. I was in Leesburg, 40 miles from Orlando. Do you suppose that had anything to do with why I felt better there?

Also, can you purchase any pre-cut pieces of this then you wouldn't have to cut them? Just wondering...

Thanks again for your efforts to help us,

Cheryl



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 From: Rick Billings <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.
 

 
Hi Giorgio,
 
I did not find this rock on any website.  The first pieces of this rock I found in a public park, here in Miami.  Later on I bought a big block of this rock from a local stone mason.  Most of south east Florida consists of oolitic limestone, so one can find it fairly easily down here.  But it does not seem to occur in many other parts of the country, so most people will probably need to find someone down here who can send it to them.  I have agree to send some to a couple of people.  But my landlady and my neighbors started complaining about the noise I was making while cutting it up with a stone chisel and hammer.  I will not be able to send any more of this rock to other group members till I have figured out a way of cutting it up without antagonizing everybody around me.  Richard

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From: giorgio cinciripini <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 11:35 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.

Hi Rick

I beleive you shouldn't spend time to send champios averywhere ... but could you give details (web site and so on) where you buy it ?

Thanks

Giorgio

--- In [hidden email], Rick Billings <newrwb5432@...> wrote:

>
> Hi  Cheryl,
>  
> You are correct.  It seems that oolitic limestone does not naturally occur in may parts of the country.  Look in the yellow pages under "sand and gravel."  Some of those places also carry a selection of rocks.  Ask if they carry oolitic limestone. And don't let them fob you of by saying, "Oh yes! We carry limestone."  We have no reason to suppose that any other form of limestone will help this problem.  If they haven't heard of oolitic limestone, try somewhere else.  If somebody tells you that they have oolitic limestone,  check it carefully under a magnifying glass--a cheap magnifying glass from Walgreens will do the job.  Look at a clean piece of the rock surface under the magnifying glass and the entire surface should consist of thousands of tiny rounded oolites.  If you can't find oolitic limestone in LA, let me know.  I have already sent some of this rock to one group member, and  agreed to send some to another member.  I
>  would prefer it if people could find this rock for themselves, because it is rather time consuming for me to do this.  But if you are completely stymied, let me know.
>  
> All the best,
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@...>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> Thanks for all this info. I will give this a try. Sure hope it helps. I am desperate! Sounds like it may be a little difficult to find around here in LA.
>
> Cheryl
>
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> ________________________________
> From: Rick Billings <newrwb5432@...>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:39 PM
> Subject: [eSens] A natural solution to my EMF sensitivity.
>
>
>  
> Hello,
>  
> My name is Richard, and I just joined this group.   I was invited by the moderator to introduce myself and to tell the group about my own problems with EMF and about my attempts to deal with this issue.  Well, I did recently come across something that helped me in a big way, and I guess others migtht benefit from it too.  So here is my story.
>         I developed EMF sensitivity about fourteen years ago.  I moved into a top-floor apartment in Miami Beach, and my downstairs neighbor was a ham radio operator.  He had his radio antenna on the building roof, about eight feet away from my head as I sat at my desk.  I was a college student then, and I sat at that desk all evening long.  And my neighbor talked on his radio all evening long, about five or six evenings a week.        
>         For nearly three months, I hardly slept.  My head would not shut down and let  me sleep at night.  I thought I was going insane.  I knew nothing then about the effects of radio frequency on the human brain.  After about three months, I did learn what was causing the problem, and the landlord made my neighbor move his antenna.  But the damage was already done. I had become highly sensitized, not only to radio frequency, but to EMF as well.
>         Over the years I have tried many, many different devices and techniques for dealing with this problem.  Most of the man-made devices were too strong for me.  I do still use one of those devices, which I can tolerate, but it only provides me with limited protection. (I do not know whether I am allowed to mention the name.)  Of the natural products I have tried, black tourmaline does help me quite a bit, but I can only use it for a few hours at a time.  At my last home (in Hollywood, south Florida), I did find a way to get a really good night's sleep.  I was living in an oceanfront building with a one-hundred-foot strip of natural, state-owned dune land between the property and the beach.  I built myself a sleep shelter out of natural, non-toxic materials (tents are appallingly toxic), and I slept out in the dune, close to the beach.  I was well away from any source of electricity and electro-magnetic fields, and I surrounded my
> sleeping cot with a screen of radio frequency screening cloth. And I slept like I hadn't done since I was a child.   
>         I realize that most people are not in a position to do as I was doing there, and I myself have lost that ideal sleeping environment.  Recently, due to circumstances beyond my control, I lost my home in Hollywood and was obliged to move into an apartment in Miami where the electrical and electro-magnetic readings are truly frightening.  The magnetic field is a steady ten milligauss, while the electrical field fluctuates between one thousand and fifteen hundred millivolts.  And I cannot do anything to change those numbers.  Anybody who knows what those numbers mean will think me crazy for being in such a place.  Believe me, I had no choice.
>         The black tourmaline and my man-made protection device were hopelessly inadequate in such a strong field.  I couldn't sleep at all, I started experiencing non-stop tinnitus, and my head was in a terrible mess.  I was in serious trouble. 
>         In desperation, I tried an idea that had come to me recently--though I hesitate to explain just how this idea came to me.  I went to a public park near my place of work in Miami--Alice Wainright Park--and I picked up a couple of one-pound chunks of oolitic limestone.  It turns out that most of eastern Florida consists of oolitic limestone, and there are places where one can find it on the surface.  I have been keeping those rocks in my pockets all day long ever since, and I sleep with them beside me at night. (I keep them in sandwich bags because this rock is soft and crumbly, and it tends to make a mess.)  And the effects of this rock have been quite remarkable.  I can sleep soundly, with none of the awful dreams that I usually experience when sleeping in an EMF-filled environment, and I wake up with my head in good shape.
>         During the daytime, I receive the same protection.  Again, because of force of circumstances, I was recently obliged to start doing a telephone sales job in Miami, and by five o'clock each day my head was in an appallingly strained and exhausted state.  But I needed that job to survive, in spite of the damage it was doing me.  The day I started carrying the oolitic limestone in my pockets, the problems disappeared.  I came out of work at five o'clock with my head as fresh as it had been at nine in the morning. 
>         I realize that I must still move out of this apartment as soon as possible because the extreme electrical and electro-magnetic fields in here may well be killing off brain cells and damaging my DNA as well.  But at least the oolitic limestone is protecting my conscious brain state so that I am fully functional and I can sleep well. 
>     I did have two setbacks in using this oolitic limestone.  The first one came with the start of the Olympic Games in London.  I do not own a television and I do not normally watch television.  My new landlady lent me a tiny flatscreeen television so I could watch the games.  This television is so small that one has to sit within a couple of feet of it to see anything.  I wouldn't normally dream of getting so close to such a device, but I thought the oolitic limestone would protect me.  It did not, and I had an awful, sleepless night as a result.  So no more television for me.  Whether I would have had the same result from watching a normal sized television at a normal viewing distance, I do not know.  And I do not intend to experiment. 
>         Secondly, I did buy a large, one-hundred-pound block of oolitic limestone from a local stone mason.  It occurred to me that I might get even better effects from having a lot of this rock all around my apartment.  I thought that enough of the rock might protect me from things like that television.  But having that much of the rock in my bedroom caused me to have a very strange and unpleasant night--though the effects were quite different from those caused by EMF.  The next night I put that big block outside, but I did break off a ten-pound piece that I put by my bed (in addition to the two one-pound pieces that I was already using).  Even this much proved to be too much, and I had another very unpleasant night. 
>         The rock must be creating some field effect of its own that does not agree with me, except in very small quatities.  So long as I use no more than the two one-pound pieces that I started with, the rock does not cause me any problems. 
>         So, if anybody else is interested in trying oolitic limestone, be warned: Start out using very small quantities; and there may be things, such as television, that will cancel out any benefits. 
>         How does it work?  I do not know!  Maybe the crystalline structure somehow modulates the local man-made energy field.  I am not a scientist. 
>         There are different varieties of oolitic limestone.  I am using the pure, white variety, which consists of nothing but oolites.  There are varieties that include quantities of sand or clay.  These tend to be red, yellow or orange in color.  I do not have any experience with those varieties.  To verify that you do in fact have oolitic limestone, break off a corner and look at a bit of clean unweathered rock surface through a magnifying glass.  The tiny, ovoid-shaped oolites will stand out clearly. 
>         You will not find this rock in a rock shop.  But you may find it at a yard carrying rock and gravel for garden, ornamental and construction purposes.  And if it is not available in other parts of the country, try contacting a rock yard in south Florida.  I guess they will ship to you, for a price.  You do not need very much, and the rock itself is very cheap.  
>         I should be interested to hear if others benefit from using this stuff as I have done.  I would also like to hear if others find better ways of using it than I have.   But remember, this rock has not cured me.  It has not lessened my sensitivity to EMF in any way.  And I do not know if it is proctecting me from radio frequency, because I do not know of any significant sources of RF in this neighborhood (I myself do not use a cellphone).  But I do know that it is protecting me from the effects of EMF as nothing else ever has.  For me, that is huge.
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